I just finished reading The People of the Abyss a couple of weeks ago. It's definitely interesting to see one of the locations, as it looks today! The book, by the way, is one I highly recommend to anyone who is interested in Victorian/Edwardian history... and even for those just interested in the Labour Rights Movement.
Beware: In the past 14 years, this is what the Tories have strived to send us back to. They've partially succeeded, with homeless sleeping in doorways in our highstreets. If they get in again they'll surely succeed completely. Osborne even said that he admires the Victorians for "how they did things", and he proved it with his policies attacking, not only the poor, but also the sick and disabled. Osborne might have gone, but a Tory's a Tory. *I'm not a supporter of any political party, but certainly NOT the Tories.
And your closing comment, Mr. Jones, brings to mind that historic photograph looking down Dorset Street. As I recall, it was published in Mr. London's book. Another fascinating, if gun-wrenching tail from direct eyewitness, and my thanks for that. I remember well standing in that garden about ten years ago. Looking forward to my next visit.
02:15 "the old woman between 50 and 60" is sad to think about. These days I don't think of someone as old until they have at least hit their early to mid-70's. I have many friends in their 50s and 60s who are as youthful and vibrant as they were when I knew them in their 20's and 30's.
Yes, my mom is in her 70’s and she’s more full of energy and spritely spirit than I. In the family we joke that she’s immortal. Still, I think of her twenty years ago and would as soon say a teenager was an old woman. I don’t remember any of her friends seeming "old".
He probably did very often. I am convinced he was from that part of London because he obviously was able to get away with his actions for so long. Who knows he might have been a respected member of the community like a reverend for one of the churches in the area. Maybe even Christ Church itself. Honestly who knows who Jack the Ripper really was.
'The People of the Abyss' is a great book & inspires Orwell's 'Down & Out In Paris & London' but I consider 'Abyss' the better book. Orwell was also inspired by Jack's 'The Iron Heel' though this is an uneven book not equal to '1984' . Yet 'Iron' contains aspects of a future tyranny & the way to it not contained in '1984'. All Jack's books were banned from the US Public Libraries even his dog books. See 'The Road' for Jack's experience in the reality of the US back a ways. His personal life is probably his greatest work. Visionary & at times mistaken at times seeing far beyond his time.
Just consider the extreme riches that Britain made from the empire, the East Indua Trading Company, the City of London.. and yet such antihuman conditions were permitted.
Right at the height of the so-called "British" Empire? The Working class masses got zero from Empire! If you want to see where that went, visit the stately homes of England!
There's no better scorching rebuke of misguided and foolhardy 21st-century yearning for Edwardian/Victorian London than Jack London's "People of the Abyss." A clean, orderly, salubrious, and safe place for most it was not! In his autobiography, Charlie Chaplin, a child of Kennington, gives an emotional account of his upbringing in turn-of-the-century London that lays bare how heartbreakingly cruel and difficult life was for Londoners without means. And his plight, dreadful it was, compared nothing to that of the poor wretches of Dorset Street! Those who now pine for the poverty-ridden, polluted, and filthy city of old can have it; I'd much rather contend with occasional incidents of terrorism and high cost of living than the workhouse, TB, child labor, malnutrition, outhouses, poor healthcare, and no employment security!
Meanwhile the socialists were singing hymns to Marx in their private halls but doing not much else to help. How were they any better than the aloof upper class.
NOTHING could be further from the truth, both from Socialists and non Socialists. I suggest you read some British social history of the time and the area instead of exposing your ignorance.🤦 You are, of course, a Fox News subscriber and know nothing about the UK and its history. Furthermore, so appalling is your ignorance, you can't even differentiate between Socialism and Marxism.
I just finished reading The People of the Abyss a couple of weeks ago. It's definitely interesting to see one of the locations, as it looks today! The book, by the way, is one I highly recommend to anyone who is interested in Victorian/Edwardian history... and even for those just interested in the Labour Rights Movement.
“Like a snail, she carries her home with her.” Dayumm, bruv’s a savage.
I haven’t read The People of the Abyss. Thank you for the suggestion Mr. Jones.
So descriptive and sad he has empathy and disdain in equal measures. Thank you x
In contrast, I very often make a point of visiting Christchurch Spitalfields whenever I'm in London - it's one of my favourite buildings in the city.
Beware: In the past 14 years, this is what the Tories have strived to send us back to. They've partially succeeded, with homeless sleeping in doorways in our highstreets. If they get in again they'll surely succeed completely. Osborne even said that he admires the Victorians for "how they did things", and he proved it with his policies attacking, not only the poor, but also the sick and disabled. Osborne might have gone, but a Tory's a Tory.
*I'm not a supporter of any political party, but certainly NOT the Tories.
Agree 100%
I'm supposing your Tories are the same as America's Republicans. Yes?
Nice video presentation. It is nice learning new JTR information that is outside the standard, typical, and redundant JTR material.
Super Richard, will watch tonight, thank you 👍
Many thanks for this :)
And your closing comment, Mr. Jones, brings to mind that historic photograph looking down Dorset Street. As I recall, it was published in Mr. London's book. Another fascinating, if gun-wrenching tail from direct eyewitness, and my thanks for that. I remember well standing in that garden about ten years ago. Looking forward to my next visit.
02:15 "the old woman between 50 and 60" is sad to think about. These days I don't think of someone as old until they have at least hit their early to mid-70's. I have many friends in their 50s and 60s who are as youthful and vibrant as they were when I knew them in their 20's and 30's.
Yes, my mom is in her 70’s and she’s more full of energy and spritely spirit than I. In the family we joke that she’s immortal. Still, I think of her twenty years ago and would as soon say a teenager was an old woman. I don’t remember any of her friends seeming "old".
Thank you.
San Francisco, Los Angeles, or Kensington Ave. in Philly.
Skid Row, 1950's/60's, most cities USA.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Imagine if Jack visited San Francisco today. United States of Poverty.
Enjoyed the video 👍
Thanks Rich. Wouldnt it be great to have a time machine and go back to all these old places to have a look😅 Cheers Rich 👍
Thank you for the great video, Mr. Jones!
I wonder if the Jack the Ripper also walked past Christ Church looking up at its soaring spire. The thought gives me a chill.
He probably did very often. I am convinced he was from that part of London because he obviously was able to get away with his actions for so long. Who knows he might have been a respected member of the community like a reverend for one of the churches in the area. Maybe even Christ Church itself. Honestly who knows who Jack the Ripper really was.
Wow those descriptions are insane. You can see it
Fascinating video!
London hasn't changed in 122 years.
💯 Agree...
'The People of the Abyss' is a great book & inspires Orwell's 'Down & Out In Paris & London' but I consider 'Abyss' the better book. Orwell was also inspired by Jack's 'The Iron Heel' though this is an uneven book not equal to '1984' . Yet 'Iron' contains aspects of a future tyranny & the way to it not contained in '1984'. All Jack's books were banned from the US Public Libraries even his dog books. See 'The Road' for Jack's experience in the reality of the US back a ways. His personal life is probably his greatest work. Visionary & at times mistaken at times seeing far beyond his time.
Just consider the extreme riches that Britain made from the empire, the East Indua Trading Company, the City of London.. and yet such antihuman conditions were permitted.
Right at the height of the so-called "British" Empire? The Working class masses got zero from Empire! If you want to see where that went, visit the stately homes of England!
There's no better scorching rebuke of misguided and foolhardy 21st-century yearning for Edwardian/Victorian London than Jack London's "People of the Abyss." A clean, orderly, salubrious, and safe place for most it was not! In his autobiography, Charlie Chaplin, a child of Kennington, gives an emotional account of his upbringing in turn-of-the-century London that lays bare how heartbreakingly cruel and difficult life was for Londoners without means. And his plight, dreadful it was, compared nothing to that of the poor wretches of Dorset Street! Those who now pine for the poverty-ridden, polluted, and filthy city of old can have it; I'd much rather contend with occasional incidents of terrorism and high cost of living than the workhouse, TB, child labor, malnutrition, outhouses, poor healthcare, and no employment security!
Meanwhile the socialists were singing hymns to Marx in their private halls but doing not much else to help. How were they any better than the aloof upper class.
NOTHING could be further from the truth, both from Socialists and non Socialists. I suggest you read some British social history of the time and the area instead of exposing your ignorance.🤦
You are, of course, a Fox News subscriber and know nothing about the UK and its history.
Furthermore, so appalling is your ignorance, you can't even differentiate between Socialism and Marxism.
They mostly were the aloof middle class.
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