Namaste, i was in ISKCON in Finland when i was about 18-23 years. Why i am not there is because of myself fully, but i can say if i have had close friends etc i would come back. Some devotees i have contacts, they also are not inside anymore, i feel bad ISKCON seems to be declining, like Gaudiya Math after BhaktiSiddhanta Saraswati’s left this world. Therefore seems this is all Lila of Sri Krishna Caitanyas Sankirtan and oll JagadGurus have their own purpose. When i listened this discussion i was suprised how positive you think about all the maths, Iskcon and others. That’s really fresh and something i have been looking. I remember how in Iskcon they tought how sad it is why Gaudiya Math not accept Iskcon, why we can’t be just one big Vaisnava family? But in sametime they not think positive about New Krishna movements like Bhakti Marga and Narayan Maharaja ? Also positive to see movements which are not that strict in rules and fundamental in teachings you know? Hopefully myself i can get back my spiritual life and i can live it in a harmonous way and be happy 😊😇
Many people do not want to follow strict rules. Then they cannot expect rapid spiritual progress. Rules and strictness is here for us to elevate us very quickly. Everyone can experience rapid consciousness change if they take spiritual life seriously and strictly. Strictly does not mean fanatically, you have to know what you do, how and why. People like something which is not so strict, but they cannot expect serious progress.
I love your podcasts. Can you please get someone from ISKCON and have a chat with them? It would be great to see that bridge. ISKCON has become such a big organization that it has many inevitable bad people. But at the core, there are many sincere devotees who are humble, simple, and respect others. However I like that you are acknowledging the faults within ISKCON that have come. I hope that they can be fixed one day. Again it would be great if you could chat with soeone from ISKCON
This is very needed. I love bhakti marga even though i follow srila prabhupada faithfully. I dont discriminate. But woulld love to see the bridge merged
The conversation brought tears to my eyes at 38:05... What did I do to deserve! . I m crying while writing this. I also hv my guru who is not in physical form but is always with me.. Whenever I need anything, he gives the best to me. I see, there are billions who keep on crying in pain... What hv I done to cry and weep in happiness.. I m just a guy who used to curse god just 2 yrs ago.. I used to abuse god after he snatched my mother from me.. What hv I done for such drastic change in my life.. Why this tears of joys come out my eyes everytime I thinks of my guru. Why do I feel, that he is actually behaving like a mother always caring for me. I m nothing. I m nothing...
I remember when the Hare Krishna movement exploded here in Brazil. I was very young, living in Rio de Janeiro, and I saw them giving flyers and playing and singing in the streets. It was all very new and different, but also colorful and captivating. It was like a wave that grew really big them fade away slowly out of my awareness. Recently I was surprised to see them again at Avenida Paulista, São Paulo, doing the same chants. The movement didn't disappeared, just the attention of society jumped to the new new and let them do their thing in peace. The real work, as Prithu described, didn't make to the news. Fraternal abraço a ambos!
the line ... "it's not possible to forget Krishna ... ", it was so deep. I mean I instantly saw myself in there. there were times when I really got angry, frustrated, and doubtful ... but no matter how deep the cut goes ... I was never able to forget Lord Krishna. it's like once you eshtablish the connection, it gets unbreakable as time goes by. I always remember one thing in such situations ... in Mahabharata, Lord was on the pandava's side and yet they suffered the most, but on the other hand kauravas were evil yet they suffered the least. may be suffering is the way Lord Hari takes away our sins ... like when a father deciplines his children, it's alwasy in their best interests.
Hehe he...Nice to acknowledge the obvious - Two Brazilians in English conversation instead of the natural Portuguese! Thank you for enduring the inconvenience
I came from similar background, I have witnessed so many ofenses to Guru, Vaishnavs and sincere devotees of other paths… what I highly appreciate in Guruji is the way He teaches us to do not let spiritual pride to blind us, respect and humility is essential. Thanks for bringing it up
Each thing which gets bigger will not only have good things but sometimes somethings get bad also .. like a hospital has so many patients but we can't see all in good condition there will be some bad an some good .. but one should never leave the hospital because one will gradually get cured no matters what some one from outside say about the hospital... I respect you people didn't had disrespect for Iskcon in this conversation although we have so many videos online having problems with Iskcon. Thanku so much hare Krishna
50:00 I think being Vaishnavas must have a symbiotic relation between different Maths/Sampradaya , as there are very good qualities each have...more coordination is required to learn from each other and adapt. This will help all of the world in better way to preach and serve lord.
Thank you so much for this satsang to both of you. Very sincere and grounded talk. Needed to hear this. Hope that many more hear this talk no matter which path they follow.🙂
Thank your Swami Revatikaanta and Prithu for such a wonderful conversation on avoiding judgements on other people, espeically devotees from other spiritual sects and learning how to be a better human beings. Hope that we could hear your second interview on other topics again.
Such a great conversation! It was inspiring for me!
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Jai Gurudev, Thank you for such humbling conversation. by listening to both of you, it brings a sense of humility and appreciation in my heart. Would be nice to have more of these Much love from UK
Such a nice podcast, cried half of the time thinking of how arrogant we all can be sometimes. Thank you for reminding of the main thing - grow to be a good human being! Jai Gurudev ❤
Hare Krishna Prithu I hope you are doing well. Thanks for sharing this podcast. I am proud of you; you learned a lot in ISKCON and keep attitude of gratitude, speaking respectful about Srila Prabhupada and applying what learnt from his teachings. Also you learnt from the multiple mistakes committed in ISKCON. This saffron guy is talented and sincere; he is my Facebook contact, I am familiar with his productions. Hope to meet you soon,
i believe when we pass, positive energy isn't going to the same place as negative energy. humans have lost their humanity. we need to change our vocabulary to one other, speak to people and treat people how u want to be treated. be the change u want to see.
Thanks for the English guys. As I'm a born and bred New Yorker I don't know any portugese, I'm quite restricted to american-english myself; also a VERY LITTLE bit of spanish but that's it... Appreciate you's.... HARI BOL!!!!!!! 🙏💙🕉🪷👣🧎🏼♂️🌌
I enjoyed every second of this podcast! Thank you for being so sincere and open! My favorite stories are... all of them!!! Thank you! Being able to hear such conversations is priceless and gives so many insights! It really helps to understand deeper the path of a true devotee.
Thank you for discussing the life of the devotees. Sometimes for those people who are looking into Krishna consciousness, I wish some Temples are more welcoming.
I like the fact that we are following spirituality, it does not matter we are Vaishnava/ Iskcon/ Follow Dharmic path, we are at least following a path of Dharma overall. Guru definitely helps.
Thank you for this deep conversation in English. 😂❤❤❤ Yes it’s so true seeing what is going on inside of anyone is not so easy, a special gift, a Divine seeing - and only a fully enlightened Being has that ability without trying, so having gratitude and patience to Love each one with absolute non-judgement is a goal we need to remind ourselves of, and at the same time appreciate what only a Sat Guru can do and bring for us. And ah yes, Gratitude, Gratitude, Gratitude - even if our life is not our own ideal of what we think it should be.
❣️💖This is a different kind of thinking .... I like when they crossed ISCON... I like people judges with rationality...not like submitted to God... irrespectively like ISCON...Even Lord Krishna gave answers after answer to think rationally...but when it comes to judgement he Leaves the judgement in Arjun 's shoulder...what is right and what is wrong...🎉🛜💖Lord is leaving the judgement in front of human... Did humans learn from it .. no we are still arrogant to capture power...this is the primary cause of war in today's world.... 🌍💖
Adorei ouvir mais da historia de voces. Conheci vcs no paranormal e a entrevista foi otima. Tbem moro na Alemanha. Nunca conseguiria ser uma devota mas adoro ouvir discussoes sobre todas religioes e filosofias. Abraço iamony
Sincere, if basic question that’s truly not meant to devolve into disrespect: Why did this group create their own tilakam if they are following one of the 4 known & legitimate Vaishnava sampradayas? Jai Shri Krishna!! 🙌🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼
52:00 There is separation because devotees and non-devotees have much different values of life. If a devotee child comes to a non-devotee school, it will be influenced by the materialistic society, fall into sense gratification and forget or neglect Krishna. So what is better - to educate children in Krishna consciousness in the association of devotees so they can be nice devotees... Or put children to regular school where you cannot control teachings and association of your children and they can become very negatively influenced by drugs, bad character etc...
Happy to see how you'll have dissected finite human tendencies of spiritual or ritualistic ego. And how we can recognize it within ourselves. Dhanyavaad🙏Do you all also learn Sanskrit to understand texts?
Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. That is the secret understanding in all Vedic literature. ŚB 4.29.Text 29.2b
I was with iskcon for 2 years and been with gaudiya for 7 but experienced so much trauma, homophobia and racism, sectarianism all the same things in most religions. I have gratitude for the good things I learned but I think I just don't fit in those groups
I said lack of family mood, everything turned too much into individualism, they talk about impersonalism mayavadi, but had turned same with the devotees.
@@prithubraguin Sadly true in many places. Not everywhere, but most of the communities are very much impersonal. That's my experience as I travel much and visit different temples and communities.
That's the major thing about gaudiya/iskcon is that they lack genuine humanity and how to relate with others in a loving way. Instead they are extremely dogmatic and even swami maharaja "prabhupada" said extremely homophobic , racist sexist sectarian things and no one holds these things accountable and I understand he has flaws and I appreciate the spiritual message but the followers tend to have a messiah complex and too focused on rules and regulations but not the essence which is to LOVE GOD! Anyone can do that bhakti doesn't discriminate she can appear in drunkard or a priest or etc. I was the most happiest away from these "devotees"
The rules and regulations bring love of Krishna. Love will not come if you don't follow rules and regulations which are here to elevate us to higher consciousness of love and compassion. Very advanced devotees are very loving and compassionate. Therefore they spread Krishna consciousness as much as they can as Srila Prabhupada did.
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The quality of the conversations is so good, i press like before play 😅
Same👍🏻
Same😂
What a podcast, as a Indian Hindu I loved your conversation.
Namaste, i was in ISKCON in Finland when i was about 18-23 years. Why i am not there is because of myself fully, but i can say if i have had close friends etc i would come back.
Some devotees i have contacts, they also are not inside anymore, i feel bad ISKCON seems to be declining, like Gaudiya Math after BhaktiSiddhanta Saraswati’s left this world.
Therefore seems this is all Lila of Sri Krishna Caitanyas Sankirtan and oll JagadGurus have their own purpose. When i listened this discussion i was suprised how positive you think about all the maths, Iskcon and others. That’s really fresh and something i have been looking.
I remember how in Iskcon they tought how sad it is why Gaudiya Math not accept Iskcon, why we can’t be just one big Vaisnava family?
But in sametime they not think positive about New Krishna movements like Bhakti Marga and Narayan Maharaja ?
Also positive to see movements which are not that strict in rules and fundamental in teachings you know?
Hopefully myself i can get back my spiritual life and i can live it in a harmonous way and be happy 😊😇
Many people do not want to follow strict rules. Then they cannot expect rapid spiritual progress. Rules and strictness is here for us to elevate us very quickly. Everyone can experience rapid consciousness change if they take spiritual life seriously and strictly. Strictly does not mean fanatically, you have to know what you do, how and why.
People like something which is not so strict, but they cannot expect serious progress.
I love your podcasts. Can you please get someone from ISKCON and have a chat with them? It would be great to see that bridge. ISKCON has become such a big organization that it has many inevitable bad people. But at the core, there are many sincere devotees who are humble, simple, and respect others. However I like that you are acknowledging the faults within ISKCON that have come. I hope that they can be fixed one day. Again it would be great if you could chat with soeone from ISKCON
Only problem with current ISKCON is they are forcing people to join ISKCON. And their idea that their way is the only correct way.
I totally agree. may be there's something wrong with the governing commity. But yeah, there are a lot of sincere devotees.
This is very needed. I love bhakti marga even though i follow srila prabhupada faithfully. I dont discriminate. But woulld love to see the bridge merged
Was really good to had a chance of participated such nice work that Swami Revati is making. Thank you very much ❤ Jai gurudev
A really nice talk by both of you. Thank you for sharing your insights particularly about judgement and being understanding
It’s all His Creation. Isn’t it. Both of you absolutely amplify and respect His GLORY. Many thanks and so very, very GRATEFUL
Hare Krishna🙇♀
5:10 , Jagannath swami can manifest love in anyone's heart, in his first glance. 🤗
All glories to Srila prabhupada.
🙇♀
The conversation brought tears to my eyes at 38:05... What did I do to deserve! . I m crying while writing this. I also hv my guru who is not in physical form but is always with me.. Whenever I need anything, he gives the best to me. I see, there are billions who keep on crying in pain... What hv I done to cry and weep in happiness.. I m just a guy who used to curse god just 2 yrs ago.. I used to abuse god after he snatched my mother from me.. What hv I done for such drastic change in my life.. Why this tears of joys come out my eyes everytime I thinks of my guru. Why do I feel, that he is actually behaving like a mother always caring for me. I m nothing. I m nothing...
Never ever watched a full podcast than this. Hare Krishna 🙏
Hari Om 🎉
Amazing talk ! Many many thanks both of you )))
Nectar for all devotees 🙏🏼
I remember when the Hare Krishna movement exploded here in Brazil. I was very young, living in Rio de Janeiro, and I saw them giving flyers and playing and singing in the streets. It was all very new and different, but also colorful and captivating. It was like a wave that grew really big them fade away slowly out of my awareness. Recently I was surprised to see them again at Avenida Paulista, São Paulo, doing the same chants. The movement didn't disappeared, just the attention of society jumped to the new new and let them do their thing in peace. The real work, as Prithu described, didn't make to the news. Fraternal abraço a ambos!
Jai Gurudev brothers… nice conversation, thank u both for ur wisdom and sincerity🙏❤️
Im still waiting 2 years already since you invited me for a interview in your channel 😭😜🥰😂
the line ... "it's not possible to forget Krishna ... ", it was so deep. I mean I instantly saw myself in there. there were times when I really got angry, frustrated, and doubtful ... but no matter how deep the cut goes ... I was never able to forget Lord Krishna. it's like once you eshtablish the connection, it gets unbreakable as time goes by. I always remember one thing in such situations ... in Mahabharata, Lord was on the pandava's side and yet they suffered the most, but on the other hand kauravas were evil yet they suffered the least. may be suffering is the way Lord Hari takes away our sins ... like when a father deciplines his children, it's alwasy in their best interests.
Wow do not miss 59:00 - 102:? Do not skip this very important part of the discussion.
Owesome sharing... Thx! Jai Gurudev!
So inspiring 🙏🏻 Thank you Swamiji for the podcast and Prithu for sharing your story
Hehe he...Nice to acknowledge the obvious - Two Brazilians in English conversation instead of the natural Portuguese! Thank you for enduring the inconvenience
I came from similar background, I have witnessed so many ofenses to Guru, Vaishnavs and sincere devotees of other paths… what I highly appreciate in Guruji is the way He teaches us to do not let spiritual pride to blind us, respect and humility is essential.
Thanks for bringing it up
Each thing which gets bigger will not only have good things but sometimes somethings get bad also .. like a hospital has so many patients but we can't see all in good condition there will be some bad an some good .. but one should never leave the hospital because one will gradually get cured no matters what some one from outside say about the hospital... I respect you people didn't had disrespect for Iskcon in this conversation although we have so many videos online having problems with Iskcon. Thanku so much hare Krishna
Namaste. I love the sheer honesty of your podcast.
Amazing sharing! Thank you
50:00 I think being Vaishnavas must have a symbiotic relation between different Maths/Sampradaya , as there are very good qualities each have...more coordination is required to learn from each other and adapt.
This will help all of the world in better way to preach and serve lord.
Jai Gurudev, very nice Podcast💓👍🙏
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁☀️ go Prithu jiii haribol, it inspires a lot
I so would love to come to the ashram and hear Guruji singing "Shri Radhe". 💕
Thank you so much for this satsang to both of you. Very sincere and grounded talk. Needed to hear this. Hope that many more hear this talk no matter which path they follow.🙂
Very nice podcast..about vaishnava unity and respect🙏♥️👌
My comment before starting this video
You're doing great service we all appreciate it.
I pray these videos reach to a larger audience
Love from india
But why would you want that they are cheating the people. Not bonifide representative of Kṛṣṇa.
You guys are doing real good job glorifying your guruji :) He must be so proud.
Jai Gurudev , vous LE représentez "nicely", Thanks to you
Paran Jyoti I love you men, you are the best, true words of wisdom! Como over to our beloved place Sri Radhe Kunj
Wow!!! Loved explanation Thais Guy prithus looks groundes
Thank your Swami Revatikaanta and Prithu for such a wonderful conversation on avoiding judgements on other people, espeically devotees from other spiritual sects and learning how to be a better human beings. Hope that we could hear your second interview on other topics again.
Thank you very much Swami Revatikanta and Pritu for this very nice conversation! ✨💛✨
Such an amazing interview! Thank You Guruji
Such a great conversation!
It was inspiring for me!
Jai Gurudev,
Thank you for such humbling conversation. by listening to both of you, it brings a sense of humility and appreciation in my heart. Would be nice to have more of these
Much love from UK
45:30 very interesting story:
Jay Gurudev der Swami
Das war so ein schönes ,interessantes Gespräch.Sehr inspirierend ,offen und herzlich.Danke ganz herzlich.
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Such a touching and inspiring podcast ❤
Jai gurudev. I appreciate this conversation deeply 💎
Such a nice podcast, cried half of the time thinking of how arrogant we all can be sometimes. Thank you for reminding of the main thing - grow to be a good human being! Jai Gurudev ❤
Hare Krishna Prithu
I hope you are doing well. Thanks for sharing this podcast. I am proud of you; you learned a lot in ISKCON and keep attitude of gratitude, speaking respectful about Srila Prabhupada and applying what learnt from his teachings. Also you learnt from the multiple mistakes committed in ISKCON.
This saffron guy is talented and sincere; he is my Facebook contact, I am familiar with his productions.
Hope to meet you soon,
i believe when we pass, positive energy isn't going to the same place as negative energy. humans have lost their humanity. we need to change our vocabulary to one other, speak to people and treat people how u want to be treated. be the change u want to see.
Thanks for the English guys. As I'm a born and bred New Yorker I don't know any portugese, I'm quite restricted to american-english myself; also a VERY LITTLE bit of spanish but that's it... Appreciate you's....
HARI BOL!!!!!!!
🙏💙🕉🪷👣🧎🏼♂️🌌
I enjoyed every second of this podcast! Thank you for being so sincere and open!
My favorite stories are... all of them!!!
Thank you! Being able to hear such conversations is priceless and gives so many insights! It really helps to understand deeper the path of a true devotee.
Thank you for sharing ..Jai Gurudev ❤😊
Amazing content 👍🏽🔥
Such an insightful podcast. Thank you for talking in English 🙏
Thanks, this was really nice
There's no one better or worse as everyone is part of Krishna. Hating on someone means hating on yourself.
Thank you for discussing the life of the devotees.
Sometimes for those people who are looking into Krishna consciousness, I wish some
Temples are more welcoming.
I like the fact that we are following spirituality, it does not matter we are Vaishnava/ Iskcon/ Follow Dharmic path, we are at least following a path of Dharma overall. Guru definitely helps.
❤Hare Krishna
Gracias 🙏, cada encuentro brinda mucha información y nos acerca más a Gurudev.
Papo muito interessante! Parabéns ❤
Amazing episode❤
Thank you for this deep conversation in English. 😂❤❤❤ Yes it’s so true seeing what is going on inside of anyone is not so easy, a special gift, a Divine seeing - and only a fully enlightened Being has that ability without trying, so having gratitude and patience to Love each one with absolute non-judgement is a goal we need to remind ourselves of, and at the same time appreciate what only a Sat Guru can do and bring for us. And ah yes, Gratitude, Gratitude, Gratitude - even if our life is not our own ideal of what we think it should be.
You r now at 4.58k remember my comments when you have 458k
Jay shree ram...hare krishna..har har Mahadev... Proud to be a hindu
pranam gruruji
Hahaha do parque Vitória, para o mundo 🔥❤️
Bom papo, valeu turma
Amazing talk ! Really inspiring. Thank you 🙏
And thank you for doing it in english and not in portuguese 😉
❣️💖This is a different kind of thinking .... I like when they crossed ISCON... I like people judges with rationality...not like submitted to God... irrespectively like ISCON...Even Lord Krishna gave answers after answer to think rationally...but when it comes to judgement he Leaves the judgement in Arjun 's shoulder...what is right and what is wrong...🎉🛜💖Lord is leaving the judgement in front of human... Did humans learn from it .. no we are still arrogant to capture power...this is the primary cause of war in today's world.... 🌍💖
Enjoyed this❤
Jai shree krishna 🙏🚩
Loved it!
Excellent discussions
Hare krishna
Swami's ji come to Ayodhya namaste 🙏
Adorei ouvir mais da historia de voces. Conheci vcs no paranormal e a entrevista foi otima. Tbem moro na Alemanha. Nunca conseguiria ser uma devota mas adoro ouvir discussoes sobre todas religioes e filosofias. Abraço iamony
❤ Ki Jai ... 🎉
The movie is called ‘the purge’
Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda Ki Jaya
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Sincere, if basic question that’s truly not meant to devolve into disrespect:
Why did this group create their own tilakam if they are following one of the 4 known & legitimate Vaishnava sampradayas?
Jai Shri Krishna!! 🙌🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼
The topics You are doing are all on spot, and how to say, needed, thank you. Happy to listen to You . Jai Gurudev 🙏🏻
52:00 There is separation because devotees and non-devotees have much different values of life. If a devotee child comes to a non-devotee school, it will be influenced by the materialistic society, fall into sense gratification and forget or neglect Krishna. So what is better - to educate children in Krishna consciousness in the association of devotees so they can be nice devotees... Or put children to regular school where you cannot control teachings and association of your children and they can become very negatively influenced by drugs, bad character etc...
32:05 01:01:38 1:04:50 1:21:00 1:28:05
Rama Rama
Namaste, which guruji are you both referring to?
Jai Gurudev, they speak about Paramahamsa Vishwananda.
Happy to see how you'll have dissected finite human tendencies of spiritual or ritualistic ego. And how we can recognize it within ourselves. Dhanyavaad🙏Do you all also learn Sanskrit to understand texts?
❤
Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. That is the secret understanding in all Vedic literature.
ŚB 4.29.Text 29.2b
So why exactly did you leave iskon? Can someone help me with the timestamp if this is covered
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I was with iskcon for 2 years and been with gaudiya for 7 but experienced so much trauma, homophobia and racism, sectarianism all the same things in most religions. I have gratitude for the good things I learned but I think I just don't fit in those groups
So why he left ISKCON? I was planning to , Should I join or not?
Please come and see 🙏 Visit as many temples and communities as you can. Every temple and community has different mood and approaches.
I said lack of family mood, everything turned too much into individualism, they talk about impersonalism mayavadi, but had turned same with the devotees.
@@prithubraguin Sadly true in many places. Not everywhere, but most of the communities are very much impersonal. That's my experience as I travel much and visit different temples and communities.
Geen enkele mens is zonder donkere kant van zijn ziel.
Rare praatje
That's the major thing about gaudiya/iskcon is that they lack genuine humanity and how to relate with others in a loving way. Instead they are extremely dogmatic and even swami maharaja "prabhupada" said extremely homophobic , racist sexist sectarian things and no one holds these things accountable and I understand he has flaws and I appreciate the spiritual message but the followers tend to have a messiah complex and too focused on rules and regulations but not the essence which is to LOVE GOD! Anyone can do that bhakti doesn't discriminate she can appear in drunkard or a priest or etc. I was the most happiest away from these "devotees"
The rules and regulations bring love of Krishna. Love will not come if you don't follow rules and regulations which are here to elevate us to higher consciousness of love and compassion. Very advanced devotees are very loving and compassionate. Therefore they spread Krishna consciousness as much as they can as Srila Prabhupada did.
He went to something bonifide to something that isn't bonifide.
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