Been looking forward to this for years. Teaser concerns me a bit in that everything looks very clean. Hope they are not going the terrible 1917 route where the trenches were perfect and clean, the fields were like golf fairways leaving you with no feeling that a war is going on.
This is a good and fair point. I think however that like good and compelling writing, good and compelling film making generally requires that you flatten out the characters and the environment to make them easily understandable to most people. Essentially you want to rely upon heuristics to approximate a thing. I personally view popular movies and youtube videos on historical topics as an opportunity to talk more in depth about a subject and hopefully broaden someone's understanding of the subject.
Sorry, I'm really not a hater and a troll...but that looks really bad. The CGI movements of the aircraft are looking cheap, not natural and fake. The way the Flak guns were placed and how that whole scene looked: It looked not realistic. I'm not an expert, but that doesn't look at all, how they organized and placed Flak guns and again the CGI looked very cheap and not real. Yes, I understand that they want to honour their American heroes, but those lines and dialogues and scenes sounded and looked wooden, gung-ho, cheap and cliche ridden. Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression from that trailer, but a trailer normally contains stuff, that should lure people into cinema or in front of the TV-screen because of the quality of the shown things. At least the trailer is absolutely disappointing on many levels. It has the terrible smell of the abysmal "Flyboys" and the cringe-terrible "Red Tails". Band of Brothers was really good and The Pacific (at least the stuff that I saw from it) looked pretty decent, too. This here...looks terrible. As a fan of WWII air warfare I'm already disappointed. They seem not able to get anything right these days in the movie industry.
That's a fair take and I don't think you're being a troll at all. I think it's worth remembering that many people who watch this won't come at it with any kind of deep understanding of German FLAK gun placements or what it was like to experience FLAK onboard a B17 or a B24. I'm also reasonably confident that Hanks and Spielberg consulted with historians to achieve reasonable accuracy and out of respect for the experiences these men experienced. I know Hanks consulted with the real men of Easy Company for Band of Brothers and I reckon he'd probably continue in that trend. When it comes to CGI, I believe it's a matter of taste, what bothers me doesn't bother others (I'm looking at you Hobbit Trilogy) but what doesn't bother me bothers others. Anyway, thanks for commenting!
BoB and the Pacific had plenty of inaccuracies and CGI and were still epic. People are too spoiled by technology in 2023 though, which was less the case when those 2 series were released. You can't expect practical effects at every turn. So stop being so picky and technologically spoiled and enjoy the damn show!
@@nealmccoy5727 So you didn't read and didn't understand my posting, because you ignored so many things I wrote. Me and CGI-effects spoiled? Far from it. If you would know me, you would laugh at your own flawed accusation.
@@megatwingo Most of the historians reacting to the trailer acknowledged the CGI and some of the inaccuracies but said they enjoyed it nonetheless. So maybe you should get off your high horse and stop nit picking. Historical accuracies, CGI and all, this should be a very enjoyable series for most people watching. And I know, cue the "most people are ignorant speech." I'm waiting for it.
The trailer seems to show bomber crew a high altitude NOT wearing their oxygen masks...so hopefully that is not really the case. Though it would be easy enough for the producers to explain away inaccuracies like that by saying they need to be able to see the actors' faces...that has happened before. My big worry about the show is going to be how they portray things like the reality of how imprecise daylight "precision" bombing was...and how many bombs fell not on factories and military targets but on French civilians among many others. Will they show these things realistically, or will they veer too much into blindness about them, or even perhaps go too far the other way and emphasize the innocents killed to the exclusion of all else. I think they are going to be walking a bit of a tightrope with this series, even more than they had to with BoB or Pacific...so I am anticipating the series with a few worries...but I hope that it will be good and fair and accurate.
The bombing wasn't accurate enough to destroy the factories, but it was accurate enough to destroy the homes of the factory workers. As for those "innocent" French civilians, some of the French themselves justified the bombing by saying those French workers were aiding the Nazi war effort.
Tomb Hanks is not noted as a patriotic individual. I don't know why he continues to make movie's that insult the people who make the ultimate sacrifice. The trailer is highly inaccurate acting is poor and CGI also an insult. This is the second movie Mr. Hanks has made just for the the sake to make money I will not watch it due to the fact he doesn't care about the movies he makes. This timeline will never be forgotten in my family and is the second movie he made that impacts two wars in my life I will not watch it
I think he's asking "then what's the move?" Austin Butler looks good in this, his swagger seems right.
I agree, being a combat pilot was and still is a status symbol and swagger was/is a way to show it.
strategic versus area bombing.
what was Arnold's purpose versus Harris'?
Been looking forward to this for years. Teaser concerns me a bit in that everything looks very clean. Hope they are not going the terrible 1917 route where the trenches were perfect and clean, the fields were like golf fairways leaving you with no feeling that a war is going on.
This is a good and fair point. I think however that like good and compelling writing, good and compelling film making generally requires that you flatten out the characters and the environment to make them easily understandable to most people. Essentially you want to rely upon heuristics to approximate a thing. I personally view popular movies and youtube videos on historical topics as an opportunity to talk more in depth about a subject and hopefully broaden someone's understanding of the subject.
Sorry, I'm really not a hater and a troll...but that looks really bad. The CGI movements of the aircraft are looking cheap, not natural and fake.
The way the Flak guns were placed and how that whole scene looked: It looked not realistic.
I'm not an expert, but that doesn't look at all, how they organized and placed Flak guns and again the CGI looked very cheap and not real.
Yes, I understand that they want to honour their American heroes, but those lines and dialogues and scenes sounded and looked wooden, gung-ho, cheap and cliche ridden.
Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression from that trailer, but a trailer normally contains stuff, that should lure people into cinema or in front of the TV-screen because of the quality of the shown things.
At least the trailer is absolutely disappointing on many levels. It has the terrible smell of the abysmal "Flyboys" and the cringe-terrible "Red Tails".
Band of Brothers was really good and The Pacific (at least the stuff that I saw from it) looked pretty decent, too.
This here...looks terrible. As a fan of WWII air warfare I'm already disappointed.
They seem not able to get anything right these days in the movie industry.
That's a fair take and I don't think you're being a troll at all. I think it's worth remembering that many people who watch this won't come at it with any kind of deep understanding of German FLAK gun placements or what it was like to experience FLAK onboard a B17 or a B24. I'm also reasonably confident that Hanks and Spielberg consulted with historians to achieve reasonable accuracy and out of respect for the experiences these men experienced. I know Hanks consulted with the real men of Easy Company for Band of Brothers and I reckon he'd probably continue in that trend. When it comes to CGI, I believe it's a matter of taste, what bothers me doesn't bother others (I'm looking at you Hobbit Trilogy) but what doesn't bother me bothers others. Anyway, thanks for commenting!
BoB and the Pacific had plenty of inaccuracies and CGI and were still epic.
People are too spoiled by technology in 2023 though, which was less the case when those 2 series were released. You can't expect practical effects at every turn.
So stop being so picky and technologically spoiled and enjoy the damn show!
@@nealmccoy5727 So you didn't read and didn't understand my posting, because you ignored so many things I wrote.
Me and CGI-effects spoiled?
Far from it. If you would know me, you would laugh at your own flawed accusation.
@@megatwingo Most of the historians reacting to the trailer acknowledged the CGI and some of the inaccuracies but said they enjoyed it nonetheless. So maybe you should get off your high horse and stop nit picking. Historical accuracies, CGI and all, this should be a very enjoyable series for most people watching. And I know, cue the "most people are ignorant speech." I'm waiting for it.
It’s even more worrying that even on a typical scene of the pilots walking out of a simple Nissun hut looked bad.
The trailer seems to show bomber crew a high altitude NOT wearing their oxygen masks...so hopefully that is not really the case. Though it would be easy enough for the producers to explain away inaccuracies like that by saying they need to be able to see the actors' faces...that has happened before.
My big worry about the show is going to be how they portray things like the reality of how imprecise daylight "precision" bombing was...and how many bombs fell not on factories and military targets but on French civilians among many others. Will they show these things realistically, or will they veer too much into blindness about them, or even perhaps go too far the other way and emphasize the innocents killed to the exclusion of all else. I think they are going to be walking a bit of a tightrope with this series, even more than they had to with BoB or Pacific...so I am anticipating the series with a few worries...but I hope that it will be good and fair and accurate.
The bombing wasn't accurate enough to destroy the factories, but it was accurate enough to destroy the homes of the factory workers. As for those "innocent" French civilians, some of the French themselves justified the bombing by saying those French workers were aiding the Nazi war effort.
Tomb Hanks is not noted as a patriotic individual. I don't know why he continues to make movie's that insult the people who make the ultimate sacrifice. The trailer is highly inaccurate acting is poor and CGI also an insult. This is the second movie Mr. Hanks has made just for the the sake to make money I will not watch it due to the fact he doesn't care about the movies he makes. This timeline will never be forgotten in my family and is the second movie he made that impacts two wars in my life I will not watch it
We don't give a fuck what you do