Why ANDOR Works and the BOOK OF BOBA FETT Didn’t
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Andor is breaking new ground in the Star Wars universe, raising the bar for storytelling and characterization in a galaxy far, far away. And, it features mostly new characters. So why is it so much more effective than the Book of Boba Fett, which featured cherished characters form the original trilogy like Luke Syywalker; the Clone Wars, like Ahsoka Tano, and form the Disney era, like Din Djarin and Grogu? I this video we break down why one show succeeded and the other failed.
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I want to talk about cassian andor and the book of boba fett-specifically how these two shows highlight certain flaws in disney star wars, and also show the growing divide in our star wars fandom. A little later I’m going to be joined by two of the best, Heather Antos and Adam Lance Garcia, but first here’s my take.
Andor is unlike any star wars I have ever seen. Its character based, slow paced, and is a top notch political spy thriller. I will say though that it's not really made for kids. I would bet that most kids are bored by it, in fact.
When Andor was first released to the press, I saw a lot of dialogue on twitter that the show didn't give them member berries”.
Doug: what’s member berries?
It’s from an episode of South Park, basically eating member berries makes you bask in nostalgia, and they have been the downfall of every society. Basically when a culture peaks, it just wants to relieve its former glory.
Doug: Oh, like many of the most popular TV shows and movies today.
Exactly. Andor does feature tons of easter eggs, but they’re all in the background, like the temple of doom stones in Luther's shop. Or there tied in more with the characters and the story. Like how mon mothma speaks out for the people of Ghorman, and that same activism leads her to be declared an enemy of the empire in star wars rebels.
Not that there’s anything wrong with wanting to relive the things you loved as a child. That’s why we buy fun collecti=bles like lightsabers. Speaking of which. Doug, check this out.
Back to what i was saying. The problem is the book of boba fett was all easter eggs, and very little story. The main character's motivations were never made clear. The flashbacks were awkwardly placed-which I'll talk about in a second. And really it felt like two shows. The flashback heavy first half, and the guest star filled second half.
There were so many legacy characters appearing in the book of Boba Fett that there was an entire episode that did not feature the main character-and it was the best episode of the show. So the book of Boba Fett felt like a Frankenstein's monster from a TV show.
And this is where I think andor is such a better show than the book of boba fett-its structure. We made a whole video about the book of boba fett’s structure, and how flashbacks should be used in a film or show. So I’m going to revisit a bit of that video, but then compare it to andor to express what this show does so well, as it cuts between its different storylines.
Let’s look at the first few episodes of Boba Fett, and how they incorporate the flashbacks.
Book of boba fett started off in a challenging position. The saga left off with the character in two different points. Falling into the sarlacc pit, and sitting on Jabba's throne. So the show had to show us how he got from the pit, to where we saw him in the mandalorian, and what happens after the mandalorian. So on paper, flashbacks are a good idea.
F;sshbacks can be used to shed light on a person’s character, like in orange is the new black. To reveal thematic parallels, like in godfather 2. Or to show a character remembering something in the past that helps them in the present, like in Lost. All of these flashbacks serve the present day storyline- but the book of boba fett's flashbacks were placed arbitrarily, and did not service the present story.
At the very least, flashbacks should reveal thematic parallels, so the two timelines are at least bringin the audience along on separate journeys that feel like a single story. This is what andor does so well in its first episode. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Andor is much more gritty, grim, suspenseful and hard-hitting compared to the rest of the Star Wars universe. I suppose that's partly due to the Rogue One movie also being edgier as well. Star Wars was like an otherworldly adventure, but Andor is like a dystopian future and struggle against tyranny. This is like 1984 set in a galaxy far, far away.
buying a mando designed lightsabre is a weird concept
YIKES. In CANADIAN it goes from $159 to $215 (subtotal).
they all work and will make new triliogy
your dog is no wft files heckle fish :P
Andor is what I have wanted from Star Wars the past several years. I'm 50 years old, and am more attracted to these stories about other characters in the Star Wars universe dealing with the changes going on around them. I've tried to watch Clone Wars, Rebels, etc, but there is too much content geared toward young children. And that's OK, Star Wars has a long history of appealing to children. But not every story told needs to include that demographic. There's room for more serious, complex, stories. Loving Andor, I don't expect it to do well, but I hope well enough that Disney sees the value in telling occasional stories for older fans who's tastes have changed since they were 5.
Agree 1000%. I'm in the same age group. I like the original trilogy the most because...nostalgia. Outside of those I've watched Rogue One the most...and for the first time in the last year when I decided I wanted to watch Andor and thought it was a good idea to catch up. I could kick myself for not watching it sooner..
I'm 42 I totally hear you, its like the x-wing books , yo diont always need jedis and sith lords to make good starwars
I agree 1000% as well!! Haha, I needed Andor to justify my love for Star Wars at my age.
I'm 54 and I agree with you, except about The Clone Wars, Bad Batch and Rebels. Yes, there's a couple of episodes, like the ones where the droids are protagonist, that could be called "childish" but there are others that are addressing issues that matter to adults, take S5E2 and 3 for instance. Besides, those shows helped fill the time between the prequels and the OT. About the rest I'm one hundred percent with you.
Well said. 45yo standing by. Even Star Wars is allowed grow up some time.
What I like about Andor is that makes the original trilogy even better, now we understand the struggles of the common folk that lead to the rebellion and the imposing power of the empire, no longer the officers and the troopers feel like goofy villains
Yes!
Yes, it's really up to these series to fill in the details that the theatrical releases simply do not have enough screen time to do.
Great point. Andor fills in details about the nature of the Empire without simply revisiting stuff we already know or have seen before. I had not thought about it before, but yes it definitely makes the original trilogy more compelling.
The Sith had the fear-factor for me..but the empire as a whole were never "scary" ..NOW i get it ..the Empire is absolutely Horrifying!
RO was already one of my favorites, this series giving it more of a foundation and seeing how the other 99.99 % of the Rebels who weren't Jedi were pulled into the fold is just amazing foresight in building the on screen lore for the everyman's struggle and gives the SW universe story so much depth. I just hope they use the same level of detail and slow burn restraint in building a solid story for the Asoka series.
One of the things that Andor is showing really well is the fact that the Empire is actually evil, Star Wars fans tend to romanticize the whole Empire thing and make fun of Storm Troopers terrible aim, but this show is portraying the ISB and the Empire like the cruel and oppressive organization they are. In general I think easter eggs and cameos are cool, but not only of fan service the man lives. Can't wait to see the remaining episodes!
Not only that, but this show is clearly showing a competent and capable Empire, that is trying to really show it's capabilities. What I imagine will happen, and am already seeing, is the true corruption starting to fracture the Empire. I also am so glad that they are using the ISB, rather than the navy. Honestly it's so great to see true government rather than a weak form of martial law.
I've been pleasantly surprised by Andor. I actually found that I prefer the less fantasy driven, more grounded substantive version of this world. The pacing is slow, but methodical and rewarding.
The care and complexity...from the writing, acting, set designs, and director choices have won me over thus far.
Yes it really does provide a lot of character building. Andor doesn't even know there's a kill order put out on him yet. All he's aware of is that the Empire is looking for him and there he is involuntarily hiding under their nose.
I think it’s also a very realistic take on how ruthless the empire was. It feels the most adult made Star Wars content.
Boring!
When I sit down to watch a Star Wars movie the original trilogy holds a special place. Watched SW (ANH) when I was 7. I always enjoyed the prequel trilogy a bit less than the original & it feels like SW. Rogue One feels good to watch. I feel like I’m watching something that is in the original trilogy’s world & Andor is going to make RO even better for people similar to how The Clone Wars animated series did for the prequel trilogy.
@@foxmaine3921 For children, sure.
Can you imagine a Tony Gilroy produced new trilogy?! In the hands of talented writers that actually care about great character & world building stories.
Over KK's dead body.
@@therealfrananon you know Andor only exists because of her right?
@@therealfrananon Let's not get political. She has worked on some of the most successful movies and franchises.
Disney wouldn't do that. Their next trilogy will appeal to the great masses. It will have Jedi and space magic and Storm Troopers and someone related to the Skywalker/Solo dynasty. Because that makes the most money.
The only way this would work is if they did something along the lines of one separate movie like The Joker. But I doubt they are that expiremental.
@@butchjohnson9736 I'd have to agree 👍
Andor has muscled it's way into my top 3 Star Wars things ever. I really didn't give it much thought going into it but now I don't want each episode to end.
It sits right up there with Star Wars and Empire and the first season of The Mandalorian for me.
Same here. Every episode I watch I’m constantly pausing to see how much time I have left before the episode is over :(
I’ve enjoyed this more than Mandalorian
@@omarsandoval6743 It's better than the Mandalorian because Andor is about something. I loved The Mandalorian - especially the first season - because it was basically perfect Star Wars porn; it just all looked and felt so perfectly Star Wars.
In the second season it lost some of its 'feels like they make it up as they go along' charm and it started to get slightly bogged down with Jedi stuff - which is another reason I love Andor so much: no Jedi so far.
@@omarsandoval6743 same here man.
@@omarsandoval6743 YES!!! I kept pausing hoping there would be much longer left than I knew there would be. Loved it.
10 years from now Andor will have way more views than the Boba Fett series. Its going to be one of those shows that people discover later and become a cult classic. Once all the episodes are released and you can binge watch all three episodes of the individual arches back to back to back, the pacing will feel less slow
And more so, thinking there's just gonna be two seasons. And the second has quite an underground top level talent directing
I agree
Andor will become a cult classic for sure.
I was thinking the same
I've been watching Andor in blocks of three from the beginning. I've been able to restrain myself and skip two episodes and then binge three in a row. I get to see a great Star Wars movie every three weeks, which for someone who can remember having to wait three years for the next one is no problem.
Andor is just the natural progression of the franchise. The audience that fell in love with Star Wars has grown up. Now it's time for the franchise to grow up too.
Not while the Mouse controls the franchise. Kids must have their toys these days unfortunately.
Or more likely the franchise will include both stories aimed at making new young fans and more mature stories for adults.
@@Xpert599 SW has always been that way.... Ewoks, Jar Jar & Pod-racing?
@@airfixx_8952 - Star Wars has not always been that way. In fact, in STAR WARS, renamed A NEW HOPE, Han shot first, Leia was sort of bitchy, Luke was borderline whiny and may have been a psychopath in training (murdering rats for fun). The ewoks arrived in RETURN OF THE JEDI. That's when George turned the franchise over to younger children-- it wasn't always that way. He had his first child in 1981 and it's likely fatherhood gave him a different perspective,. It's also likely that he realized the bulk of the merchandising should be targeted to young children, because they're the ones who'll ensure their parents spend an inordinate amount of money on frippery. I was 8 in 1983 and I didn't like the ewoks, at all. Fuzzy bears fighting the good fight? Oh, please. Even my 8 year old self could spot the pandering, especially after the tone of EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. Lucas doubled down on the kids friendly tone with the prequels (lazy writing, bright colors and pew-pews), which is why many of us who grew up with episodes IV, V, and VI didn't particularly like them.
@@eme.261 The above point wasn't that SWs was exclusively for kids from day 1, but the fact is that George sought to merch the hell out of things and exploit the kids-dollar market from the beginning.... The market was flooded with toys and everything else long before ESB let alone ROTJ and it certainly wasn't adults that were sleeping with OG SWs bed covers, having SWs wallpaper, using SWs lunch boxes etc. etc.
From day 1 there were aspects of the droids that were blatantly geared towards locking in the kids affections. Yes; there were other mature elements woven in too; but that's just the genius of George and his writing crew.
...Then look at the state of the holiday special in 1978!
Sure ESB took a darker turn, but it was merely a chapter in the grand scheme of things (and even then we had the quirky/cuteness of Yoda as counterbalance).
Disney did a terrible job with the sequel trilogy, but that doesn't make them the 1-size-fits-all villains upon which to pin the blame for all the less desirable elements of the last 47 years. The initial above suggestion that Disney are responsible for the advent of mass merchandising spin-offs of the SWs franchise is pure nonsense. Alongside the band Kiss and a few notable others, George took the merchandising of the entertainment arts to a whole new level. Ironically, although Disney had toys out in the 1970s they were nothing close to the phenomena of SWs toys.
Andor is mastery of writing, acting, and execution.
Not to mention stunning sets/location and excellent soundtracks.
Yep.
Camera work and lighting is top notch
@Liam Neville Violist I would argue the Rebellion against the Empire is just as core and old of a Star Wars feeling as jedi vs sith. And as we know there are very very few jedi left in this period to focus on. That's your problem is you stopped 2 episodes in. It hasn't evolved to the point of Andor getting wrapped up in the Rebellion. The only complaints I've seen about this show are all from people that only watched an episode or two. It's more of a spy thriller about the early days of the Rebellion.
Andor is mastery in anesthetics, because I definitely don't need any sleeping pills anymore watching this
One of the great things about Andor is so far all the evil being done is by normal people, not Siths or something sci fi and that makes it even scarier because you can see this happening in real life.
Another huge problem with boba fett is the audience who first saw him in the original trilogy were excited to see him in that “badass” bounty hunter role, but in the show they completely change everything that made him boba fett. So it was hard for the old and new audience’s to really resonate with him
Bingo!
I deleted it before the sand people arc was over, I tried it was pointlesa
@@danf7411 I watch because Ming is hot and does great action too.
It literally was a Spaghetti Western in Space. Loved every minute of it.
@@GRIGGINS1 It's a plus that he has a hot sidekick and she does great action scenes
Andor has really surprised me, It's such a captivating show, I love how "Adult" it is not all positive Disney, it's raw, gritty, and truly made me feel for the characters all the more strongly. So far it's brilliant and I can't wait to see the next episode!
Adults in a high tech future with droids of all kinds live in ugly garbage dumps? Sorry that blows up the entire show with massive stupidity!
@@foxmaine3921 it's not the right show for people that refuse to understand fictional stories. It's not meant to reflect life as we know it.
@@Jezee213 There is a super giant gaping hole in the base of the story. For any 1/2 intelligent person that ruins the show.
Andor is a thief, scammer, cheat, and con artist. A real low life crumb. The entire story gets sucked hollow by the fact that all of the droids could and the people would have the droids clean up and fix their homes so they don't live in filthy squalor.
@@foxmaine3921 What shows do you like so we can get an idea of who you are as a viewer?
I really hope they continue this success with Andor into season 2
Same here. Andor deserves another season.
@@chasehedges6775 Season 2 already confirmed and they will be start filming soon this year. But we wont see ss2 until end of 2024
Geez, no need for season two
@@Cestariarts Season two was planned all along. The whole show will be two seasons.
@@clintgunter ok, at least
I'm so invested in Andor. It's such a good show, with vivid, likable characters. It's a grateful surprise indeed. I can only hope Ahsoka Tano's series receives the same attention and treatment. She deserves it.
She gonna open the show with bursting out from a sarlac pit. Waste 1 episode befriending tusker riders which amount to nothing.
Andor is the Star Wars many of us have been waiting/hoping for. A Star Wars series that is intelligently crafted and meticulously executed with the perfect cast. I like how the show gives us a much deeper look into the lives/struggles of the “bad guys” and at times some viewers may actually feel bad for some of them. It will be a long wait for season two.
Andor is like if HBO did a series set in the star wars universe, almost no crutching on member berries, its amazing.
Andor is finally the Star Wars that's grown up with me...
Andor has given us more insight into the functionings and methods of the Empire than any of the other live action shows this far, it’s excellent.
The Empire has taken on a whole new level of terrifying. I will never look at them the same, after this series. Excellent work.
I really love that it's a long season. It's not trying to cram a lot into 6 episodes, but instead let's things breathe. It could easily have ended its first season at multiple points so far, but it just keeps going.
I have noticed too that D+ series for the most part even with fewer episodes STILL manage to shoe horn in episodes that aren't needed. I think you still NEED all these Andor episodes even if they aren't all action packed.
@@sleinadb Kenobi ep4 basically?
@@draykohunter6805 I'd like to say yes...but I'd have to go back and see what that episode was...which says something. LOL
@@sleinadb I have to disagree. You could cram basically all the necessary plot into one forty-minute episode and you’d be good. It’s almost entirely filler.
I’m 51 & have lived Star Wars since I was 7. The last two moves sucked. Book of Boba was ok & The Mandalorian is really good. I was excited for Andor & it’s AWESOME. It feels like Star Wars & a well written story with several plots. The Jedi & Sith is such a tiny tiny part of the universe. Very few people have ever seen a Jedi. The overwhelming vast majority of people are like the individual Andor & is so great to see their stories. As long as it’s well written I’ll take this type of show anytime.
Its all about Diego Luna. As Cassian Andor, you can feel his anger, his nervousness , his uncertainty about things going on around him, his panic, his happiness, and his moral internal tug of war. All the supporting talents are incredible as well.
Adam Garcia is right - Andor is the Star Wars we wanted, we just didn’t know it.
For me not necessarily. I LOVE Andor. But I don't want everything in Star Wars to be that. There's room for all kinds of stories.
What makes Andor so good is that it has to be written so well because it doesn't have nostalgia to fall back on.
This is on point. People forget that George's original vision of his films had a MIX of space magic as well as politics and inner workings of the galaxy. All the flowery butterfly nostalgia crap for lightsabers has been redone a million times but this is the first time we've gotten the Imperial board room meeting aboard the 1st death star.
We need more scenes like him "slurping soup to shut his mom up" was an absolutely outstanding comment.
A truly piece of art. You can feel the engagement in all directions. It's not just a show, it goes deeper, makes people to reflect in what's happening around in real life.
Andor is probably the best new Star Wars sruff. It’s written well and doesn’t just be like remember this, ohhhh remember this. It expands the u inverse and makes it feel larger versus just revisiting old stuff over and over and over and over and over
I think the one major point I’d add that many don’t say because they already know the details because they’ve read the Star Wars books, etc… is that Andor finally explains WHY there is a rebellion
The reason I love this channel is that you are a huge fan but can also make valid criticism
I completely agree.
When Adam said he didn’t really care when they show got announced I felt the exact same way! I thought it looked funny and kinda odd. Now this is my favourite show and I love everything that’s happen and I want more like this in the Star Wars Universe
Everything that Adam said was absolutely spot on with how I feel about Andor, even him talking about his thoughts when he first heard the show was in development. I’m really enjoying it so much. I think it’s fascinating seeing what it’s like to just be a normal person in the Star Wars universe. It makes the world feel that much more authentic. It’s up there with my favorite Star Wars projects.
Andor gives a glimpse into the common person life in Star Wars. How the Empire truly is. How the Rebellion is formed. It shows that there are complexities and grey areas. How the “good” guys have to do bad things to survive. I hope they have more shows like Andor in the future as well as content for young Star Wars fans.
What I love about Andor nothing feels cheaply made. Like with Kenobi as much as I loved it every scene felt so cheap including the writing
Yeah you can clearly see which show all the budget went towards 😂😂
I actually thought kenobi’s set designs were one of the stronger feats of the show, definitely agree with the writing though
@@matthewgregoris3920 There were barely any sets worthy of anything aside from the drug dealer planet. We just Tatooine, an Arizona like dessert, another barren planet the "rebels" hide on and we see very little of, and a low quality dark empty rocky moon. And Alderaan, which is more or less just earth. The inquisitor base was poorly implemented, and not new since we seen it in SWJFO
@@hayhay1999 they actually were about the same per episode though.
I'm 64, if that matters at all, and all I want from any fiction is for somebody to tell me a really good story that grabs me, shakes me, and reveals things about the world and myself that I haven't seen before. Andor gives me all of that and more; after each of the past couple of episodes I had to go off and watch newborn kitten videos before I could breathe again, but I still can't wait until the next one.
BTW, the second time I watched Episode 9 I actually kept it running through the credits, and realized we'd been gifted a lovely respite from all that brutality in the form of sweet sweet music.
Boba fett was satisfactorily entertaining. Andor is an emersive masterpiece of character development, plot structure and stunning visuals. I hope they keep it going.
A garbage dump on the screen much of the time stunning visuals?
He'll yeah I agree fantastic
And this other guy is a troll
Completely agree
Eh, Andor is kind of a generic character in my opinion. I personally find Luthan and Mon Motha way more interesting
The writing in Andor is superb.
One of the many things I love about Andor is that it doesn’t rely on “time jump” storytelling. Time jumping is all over the place nowadays and it usually is there to try to make stories more interesting (not working). Hiding a detail until some ultimate reveal that ends up being a dud. Chronological storytelling should be the norm again (surprised I even have to say it).
Amen! Exactly what you said! 🍻
This show is PHENOMENAL it’s incredible how much it fills the gaps and enhances the rest of the Star Wars universe this is exactly what spin off series should be
To piggy back on Heather, I watched the first three episodes of Andor with my dad, when he visited me for a week, and he loved it so much that he’s been watching it on his own. He’s more of a casual (very casual) fan so if he doesn’t know what an Easter egg is, it doesn’t matter.
I would have never watched Andor normally, but luckily I played it in the background before getting ready for bed and ended up getting hooked. I think the show suffered from public expectations due to the other Star Wars shows, however I think Andor has some of the best world building than every other show combined, so much so I rewatched Rogue One and had a totally different experience after watching the show. I’m really hoping they can squeeze two more seasons at least before finale.
I think it's pretty simple. Andor keeps you on the edge of your seat. I spent all Thursday Night, a day after I watched the show, thinking about if Mon Mothma is going to trade her Daughter's Freedom, body, and future for 400k to save the rebellion. Like on one hand, if she doesn't cover the 400k her family can be in danger anyway, so why not give up your kid and keep the rebellion alive. On the other hand. It's your CHILD. What a heartbreaking decision she has to make, and either way she goes I will understand BUT I can't wait to find out Which way she decides to go. This is the level of TENSION and DRAMA that has this at 94% and 84% loved by critics and fans. I think that 84% will creep up to 90% once people who waited to binge watch at end of season watch it. You're gonna get a lot of those people who will hurry to rate it.
Andor is incredibly well written. It really surprised me how good the show is.
Andor’s tone is what I thought i was going to get 25 years ago with the prequels. Instead i got Jar-Jar…. Not even a lousy Tshirt!
As someone who has passionately hated anything Star Wars since Rogue One, Andor is such a breath of fresh air and amazing to watch. No more one sided good or bad guys. It’s political but it makes sense in the context of the universe. It’s very diverse but instead of throwing it in your face the characters are well written to where it makes sense and doesn’t break the flow of the story. Best Star Wars show done yet
Which do you like better, Andor or Book of Boba Fett?
Andor is awesome Book Of Boba Fett was meh/mediocre
Definitely andor, it’s more like it’s his show, even tho it does keep switching between people
@@kratos_rural6704 Andor feels like a show and a movie combined.
Book Of Boba Fett feels like a parody.
I def liked Book of Boba Fett more, but that's just personal taste. I feel like Andor is objectively a BETTER show, but it's just not my thing. I'm not super into the more mature shows. I didn't like Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad either, so...
Boba fett, it wasnt great but it was good. Andor is boring as hell
Andor and Rogue One are the spiritual successors of The Empire Strikes Back. There’s a certain segment of the fandom that have been waiting a long time for that brand of Star Wars and we’re getting it with this show.
The reason bobf didnt work is bcuz they changed bobas entire being in 6 episodes. I know that boba went thru a life change but it just felt wierd.
Boba Fett was filled with bad, lazy writing
Plus the story line sucked. It was slow and dragged
Agreed verbatim with all of you. It was a horrifyingly unfaithful portrayal. Practically a different character.
that and he went into the sarlacc pit slim Jim and came out with a dad bod
@@chasehedges6775 They made him a Cuckold so Fennec could shine, so of course it sucked!
Andor feels like the rogue one of star wars. Book of Boba Fett feels like Return of the Jedi side of star wars. People forget when return of the jedi came out many fans thought it was too silky and campy and too much for kids
Andor for sure. It’s not only great Star Wars, but great tv that can hold up to some of my favorite shows of the year like Better Call Saul, Barry, Atlanta and The Bear. It’s nice to see a show genuinely be great that has nothing to do with “hey here’s a cameo!”
They talk about Boba Fett as someone we want to know and that's lacking from Andor, but we also want to know about Mon Mothma, the founder and leader of the Rebel Alliance, future Chancellor of the restored Galactic Republic, the mother of the rebellion, savior of sentient life, etc. She's about as epic a character as we can get, and I'm thrilled to finally see her fleshed out properly. I literally hang on her every word. :-) Next we need to explore Admiral Akbar and how the Mon Calamari joined.
Its good to have different styles. I'm enjoying Andor but i think some people feel its more slow paced and doesnt have as many characters that arent humanoid
Seriously. There’s not one main character that isn’t human. It’s getting stale. Kenobi was the same. I love that show but almost every background character in every planet is a human.
@@sackthebastard tbf it was all stuck filmed in England during lockdown without the larger production of American film easily accessible. And the prison makes sense to be only humanoid
No, but it does have a good plot which makes a change for Disney's Star Wars.
Imagine hating the show because there isnt more aliens lol, talk about nitpicking to the max level
Once you grow up you'll really enjoy this pacing.
Great video! To me, Andor makes the original trilogy more powerful because Andor shows the details of how powerful and how horrible the empire was to everyone, and therefore how huge of heroes the Star Wars characters really are to stop the Empire.
Yes, we knew the Empire was an oppression, but we had no idea how they occupied and controlled the systems. The way they treat any slightly suspicious person as a criminal, it's absolutely disgusting and absurd. Andor's arresting made me sick and very upset
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I mean they're not wrong so far lol
Soooo true
@@TimSedai No they are not.
Somehow Palpatine returned...
Andor is my favorite SW show because of how gritty it is.
Same. I consider it to be on the same level of ESB and ROTS in terms of quality.
I totally agree! It’s an amazing spy thriller l, and I honestly didn’t think it could work but, it’s some of the best scenes/performances in the entire franchise.
The empire being so mundanely cruel is terrifying!
100% agree - best SW show for writting / acting / story. Empire Strikes Back will *always* have my heart but i don't want more Empire, I want more Andor in future shows.
@@isaaclavoie esb and rogue one are my faves, and this is 3rd for sure.
I like both Boba Fett and Andor. They may be for different audiences, but they are both really great.
I agree.
Boba fett show made me throw away my boba fett stuff when i realized he was a fucking loser and he shoulda stayed in the pit
I don't think Andor is better than The Book of Boba Fett just because it's more sophisicated and for a more adult viewer, but because it is a better show in terms of story, characters, pacing, structure, and literally every other aspect.
Boba Fett was unwatchable to me. I’m 44 though, younger generations may like it.
@@kevinc8955, I liked it, but agree they didn’t use him to his fullest. The meat packing scene in Episode 6 should have been his. “I’m looking for Din Djarin”.
Andor is a spy thriller in the Star Wars universe. Viewers are always excited for the next episode. Story is compelling.
If Star Wars was a meal. Boba Fett is sweet, Andor is savoury. Boba Fett is like something you remember consuming as a kid, Andor has weight, depth and fills you up (and even exhausts you!)
Excellent analogy.
Nah troll Bobaba fett was trash
Sci-fi vs sci-fantasy?
I'll side with BoBF doesn't work because they tried to give fans something they thought they want. Andor, on the other hand, they went in wanting to tell a story.
I agree. I was expecting to see Boba Fett during his youth getting his training to the different adventures that he was involved in besides his hunt for Hans Solo contract. Although that probably would have been too familiar with looking a lot like The Mandalorian.
I expected him to be a more hardcore and gritty version of Mando but instead he felt like Mando-lite.
I want more content like Andor going forward, it's SUCH a good show
If Andor continues nailing the thrilling story they've had for 9 episodes straight, would that justify Emmy consideration? TBH, I feel Im on page 800 of a 1000-page spy thriller. Its that complexly written. Andor and especially Gilroy should be rewarded for that.
Ep10 I think could get acting aeard buzz for Serkis or skarsgaard
This show is just great television, period. World class work from every department, and brilliant story structure. I will be very sad when it ends.
i think one thing i’ve noticed neglected in reviews/discussions of this show is how well the characterizations give us a snapshot of a certain mentality what leads to an obsession with order and control and “justice”. seeing syril and how he thinks/behaves and how his family life is, it’s so powerful at making sense of why the empire is so awful in many ways.
Another amazing video Ryan!! Keep up the great work!🤘🏻
Now I want a remake of the original trilogy based on Andors style
@@tmb1065 You can't ret-con that mess..... Maybe in another decade when they can convincingly do a full CGI reboot of Carey, Mark, Harrison, Peter & Billy D with a completely new screenplay..... But until then; it's over.
Andor has made me appreciate rogue one more. The show is great.
"I'm on this fight since I was six years old. You're not the only one who has lost everything", that weights a ton extra now
Thanks for your work! What you do really shows how much thought goes into each scene of a show/movie. It is overwhelming at times if you see What relates to what and what is an easteregg for what. It is great!! Totally love watching this
This was an amazing video thanks
Talking about Flashbacks the best use of them by far is in Psych great tv series and the flashbacks were important in understanding the episode while also expanding on the story.
If you don’t really think of BOBF as a regular show it kind of works better. It almost feels to me like Mandalorian bonus content if that makes sense. I feel like the pandemic really limited what they were able to do with the show. It seemed like there could be no more than five or six folks max in any given scene. Jabba’s palace felt consistently empty. But if you see it like it’s all extras on a on DVD collection, it’s fine.
Bobas time with the Tuscans is a slow reveal of why boba has come to be more altruistic. It reminds you that he’s not just after power and control but respect and community, so it serves a powerful purpose, rather than boba being a badass with matching flashbacks.
The flashbacks in Andor serve little to no purpose. We know he had a sister, we can tell he was taken in by the older lady, but that’s it. The flashbacks don’t affect much of what we know by seeing the present.
Andor shines in its political thriller style and actually gives me an understanding of the empires perspective in a way that makes you almost sympathize with the individual imperial agents.
But I don’t think the boba flashbacks were worse than Andor.
Best ad segway, didn't see it coming at all.
I have been surprised by Andor, but I was in the "wait and see" group when it was announced. I think Andor is too niche of a Character for the general audience. I hope more people tune in to Andor and give it support. It is a great well done story.
I am running out of ways to say how much I love this show. Thank you all for summing it up so perfectly here! 😊
The more I think about it. The more and more I love Andor. I truly think this is the best Star Wars show period. And for all the reasons stated here. It’s not just a great Star Wars story. It’s a great story all together and can be enjoyed by anyone! It just so happens to take place in the Star Wars universe
I agree with Adam that I thought 'Who needs this series?' when I heard they were making Andor - especially as I found Cassian a very divisive character in that film.
However, I now think it's the best Star Wars TV series too. It's really clever and very deep.
Love the content. Using you as my place to put this comment into the world: Why is no one talking about Andor's sister? Same writer for episodes 1-3 and 11-12. You KNOW it must be a major plot point about to drop.
His mum mentioned her when they last spoke.... Said he needed to quit looking for her.
Not gonna lie, when I first heard about Andor getting a series, I brushed it off and wondered who asked for this show about a character that has died in a Star Wars spin off. But I decided to give it a shot and was pleasantly surprised and proven wrong. Andor is so different yet fits into the Star Wars universe and since I enjoyed the fights of Rogue One, even though Andor doesn't have as much action, it is still interesting and I can't wait to find out what is gonna happen next. On top of having actual competent Imperials, makes you want to root for our heroes even more, instead of what Mandalorian Season 1 finale gave us(Heh remember stormtroopers can't aim)
Its the Andor style shows that end up being the best of the bunch.
Hey Ryan, fantastic video as always, saw a great reminder at 5:05 I meant to tell you about if you haven't been told/seen already, Marva's old ship/Cassian's ship looks JUST like the Moldy Crow, Kyle Katarn's ship from the Star Wars: Dark Forces games/EU, which is done super intentionally as was Jyn Erso's name being so close to Jan Ors's, also from Dark Forces et al.
The problem with nostalgia rout is that's it only works short term. If you want your movie/show to be timeless you have to make it stand on its own without relaying on familiar faces to keep audiences interested. Thats why Mando S1 and Andor work so well! And im glad Andor is finally getting recognition.
Andor is fantastic with a few strange caveats. I can't come up with a good reason for it to be SO human-heavy as aliens are part and parcel with the whole "galactic" aspect of the republic/empire/whatever. My best assumption is with it being so drama/character driven, getting props or cgi to emote convincingly would be too difficult. Aside from that TINY gripe Andor is leagues ahead of BoBF which was hammy fan-service that leaned FAR too heavily into The Volume for production. Anyone else Remember the ridiculous Vespa chase?
Andor tells a story.
Boba Fett was just a bunch of stuff happening with no rhyme or reason to it.
SW:ANH Aliens mostly in Tatooine, ESB hardly any Aliens outside of Ugnaught and Chewy. Only alien Rebel is Chewy. ROTJ, Aliens mostly on Tatooine and End or. How many rebel Aliens outside of the Mon Calamari? R1, handful of Rebel Aliens. Conclusion? There simply aren't that many aliens when it comes to the rebels. Most aliens in Imperial ruled Star Wars are segregated or on Tatooine. Going off of canon, we shouldnt see a ton outside of Tatooine. Wouldnt make sense in this time period.
A good canon reason for the lack of aliens would be that the Empire was pretty racist/xenophobic against non-human species and enslaved most of them. You don't see a single non-human imperial officer in all of Star Wars that I can think of except Thrawn.
Alien presence just wasn't that common in his corner of the galaxy. As far as the prison is concerned. I'm sure the Empire was using alien lifeforms in other prison, with each of the prisons housing the lifeforms of the same species together because it was cheaper to house people that are alike, rather then having to have to have facilities to deal with the different species all in the same unit.
I'm guessing they wanted to keep aliens down to a minimum in service of keeping the show more grounded. A guy in a green rubber suit is a bit distracting in a hyper-realistic Star Wars show. Similarly, they haven't introduced or cameo'd any force users. Palpatine is mentioned, but they don't know he's a Sith, or what one even is. It sounds weird, but fantasy characters just wouldn't work in this show.
Don't get me wrong, I love the green rubber suits, lightsabers, X-wings, TIE Fighters, AT-STs and space wizards, but I like that Andor seems very far removed from all that.
Enjoyed Book of Boba Fett, it brought something campy and fun that I don't think Andor or Mandolorian tried to do. I love the different styles. The director for most of Book of Boba Fett did Spy Kids which are super fun and different for kids and appealed to a wacky sense of humor in adults. Being more open minded to art allows different styles to be created and utilized. :)
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Refreshing comment. Wish more people was open minded as you.
Made the Main character a beta btich in his own series, that is very artful Indeed.
What makes Andor great is what made a show like Breaking Bad great. Compelling characters with motivations, aspirations, fears, flaws, etc. Characters can drive the story and that's what Andor does.
I think one of the appeals of the series for me is that it raises the stakes of the original trilogy. It's not just sneering villains on space stations that blow up planets, but that it crushes and intrudes on people's homes, relationships, and souls.
I feel like the few good episodes of Boba could've just been sandwiched into season 2 of The Mandalorian, rather than sandwiching Mando into Boba Fett.
I always say BOBF is Mando Season 2.5. The episodes with him in Mando 2 were better than the whole show.
I really enjoyed Boba. Not everything has to have the same tone. That said, Andor is fantastic
I MUST see a new BOBF edit following this roadmap!
I was really excited when Andor was announced and I've loved every minute of it. I enjoy taking a break from Jedi stuff for a bit and diving into other parts of the lore. The Star Wars universe has infinite possibilities and I get excited to think about the options.
I never got passed the 2nd episode of boba fett.
Andor reminds me of 1930s and 40s Germany.
Oh yeah! Agreed. Reminds me of the USA today... the US has the largest slave prison population (as it is constitutionally legal for prisoners to be slaves). Definitely metaphor for any imperialist / protofascist society. It is awesome Star Wars was originally a metaphor for US imperialism, oppression and violence during Vietnam.
YEAH they for sure leaned into that with the shoes and shower in prison...
I liked the book of Boba fett.
I can honestly say I was more hyped for Andor than I was Kenobi. Despite enjoying Kenobi I didn't really feel as if it added much more to the world of Star Wars, whereas Andor does that so well - I am genuinely invested in this story and have been loving the world building and story telling that it adds.
Totally agree that Boba Fett's reasoning for wanting to give up bounty hunting and take over a town seemed rushed, but I wasn't expecting much from this show but was pleased that he had a voice after not having one in the original trilogy. Because of the amount of episodes Andor has, it gives you time to link with the characters before Rogue One and really see mindset of the Empire.
I wanted the Obi Wan Kenobi series to have this amount of depth and development.
Boba Fett: A Comic for families.
Andor: A Comic Novel for Adults.
Andor has been great. Boba Fett was boring until the last couple episodes. Andor is world-building outside of our usual characters. I like that it's branching out.
Adam saying Clone Wars not being as consistent as this, I have a feeling that if Clone Wars started today, it wouldn't have been 20+ episodes per season. They needed the filler back then that you don't need with the luxury of streaming.
Yeah, that is totally fair.
Book of Boba Fett was bad because of all the needless and forced fan service. It's too much. We don't need 172 people/places/things from other shows, comics, books, movies. We just want Boba Fett being a badass.
Andor is amazing for it's own reasons, but the lack of fan service is extremely refreshing.
Like the episodes he appeared in Mando...were better than all of his series.
Holy SHIT! 15:38 the two lost boys... My mind is blown, I did not even catch that parallel!
Thank you for pointing that out - really great video in total
M. Berries, I’ve never heard that term in my life which makes me old. I love and/or because it is an adult Star Wars being close to half a century, I remember being a little girl and wondering who is Andor Cassian, I remember the Boba Fett Christmas special was very little I love Boba Fett but I know a lot of people didn’t. But everybody wants to go back and remember when their childhood why not experience the childhood at the adult level? I love this channel keep making them you rock
Book Of Boba Fett will always be an enigma of how to make something that should be so interesting so bland and mediocre
Andor has been a breath of fresh air and a fantastic return to how good it is to tell an awesome story.
Book Of Boba Fett was a mediocre show that couldn’t tell a good story at all.
Big reason why this show is so good has to be the cast! Every character is phenomenal.
I absolutely agree with Adam. This show tells me something new and interesting about Star Wars, and makes me think about our world in the way that good speculative fiction should.