+stevemaxwelldrums *The Chicago jazz gig is one for which my ideal drum rig's a stripped-down monster:* Premier® GMB2418RQL kick and 1047RQL snare joined with the Avedis Zildjian® A 0079 ride ("A. Sweet Ride 21"/53cm"), A 0123 sock pair ("A. Mastersound Hi Hats 14"/35cm"), and Z30212 mini crash ("Z3 Splash 12"/30cm"). The Chicago drummers got by with minimal gear.
I was using a house kit in the video (with my own snare and cymbals.). It was a great set as one would expect from Maxwells Drum shop :). For Trad Jazz I usually use a be-bop sized kit sometimes with an 18" and sometimes with a 20" BD, usually with but sometimes without a floor tom. I also occasionally use a more vintage style kit with a 28" BD, old style Chinese toms, and old style "lowboy" sock cymbal pedal with 90+ year old brass 10" high cup cymbals. My other cymbals for Trad always include what you see in the video - 18" Zildjian Swish, 8" Zildjian splash both circa 1968 and purchased from Franks Drum Shop, a 12" Zildjian choke/crash I bought on ebay Circa 1950's(??). If I use a hi-hat as here I play a pair of 14" Bosporus which I bought from Steve when his shop was on Michigan Ave. downtown. The woodblock and cowbell are always present.
Ya know to be honest I didn't notice, This was a house set already in place when I got to the gig Thinking back I don't think there was a riser but I can't be certain.. My first set from 1966 had a 20" BD and in 1970 I bought a second set with an 18" BD. There were no such things as BD risers (that I can remember) then so I never used one.and I never had any problems. When risers for small BD's first hit the market it never even occurred to me to buy one. I'd been doing fine without one for decades and it was just one more piece of gear to schlep around.
this is awesome! what is that type of music called that the first group was playing? were those specific songs or improvised? please, forgive my ignorance, i am 31!
Hi. I'm the drummer in the first group. Glad you enjoyed the music. Like most Jazz bands going back to when the music was created we play songs, with the jazz element of improvisation. The original New Orleans style had much more collective improvisation and less reliance on individual solos then the later Chicago Style. The first thing we played was called "Marie" written by Irving Berlin in 1928 (Tommy Dorsey later made a hit recording of it with his swing band.) The second tune we did (the third on the video) was called "Tin Roof Blues" it was written by members of a jazz band called the New Orleans Rhythm Kings and first recorded by them in 1923. I am grossly over simplifying (entire books and college classes cover this topic), but in general in the Chicago Style of Trad Jazz we play the theme of the song (sometimes a verse and chorus, mostly just the chorus) a few times with "collective improvisation" then there will be a round of improvised solos by the various instruments (sometimes there will be a collective improvised chorus between solos) then to end the song we go back to the theme and play 2 or three choruses "out". Often the second to last chorus is played softly and the last one is loud as in "Marie". In the case of a Blues often at the end we deliberately slow down as we did to end Tin Roof. This is very typical of even more modern jazz styles. For example the middle group did a Jazz standard called "Autumn Leaves" with a lot of improvisation.
harast52 you did an amazing job man. We all used a three piece kit but you made it work so well. The roots of drumming showcased through you and should make other fans of the history of percussion keep an eye.
@@danlc95 Thanks so much for the kind words. I can play drums to many styles of music but Trad Jazz is my favorite. There's actually a lot of Trad Jazz to be heard in and around Chicage and the guys in the band with me above are among the best.
Trombone man giving it hell!! Good band.
fantastic !
+stevemaxwelldrums *The Chicago jazz gig is one for which my ideal drum rig's a stripped-down monster:* Premier® GMB2418RQL kick and 1047RQL snare joined with the Avedis Zildjian® A 0079 ride ("A. Sweet Ride 21"/53cm"), A 0123 sock pair ("A. Mastersound Hi Hats 14"/35cm"), and Z30212 mini crash ("Z3 Splash 12"/30cm"). The Chicago drummers got by with minimal gear.
I was using a house kit in the video (with my own snare and cymbals.). It was a great set as one would expect from Maxwells Drum shop :). For Trad Jazz I usually use a be-bop sized kit sometimes with an 18" and sometimes with a 20" BD, usually with but sometimes without a floor tom. I also occasionally use a more vintage style kit with a 28" BD, old style Chinese toms, and old style "lowboy" sock cymbal pedal with 90+ year old brass 10" high cup cymbals. My other cymbals for Trad always include what you see in the video - 18" Zildjian Swish, 8" Zildjian splash both circa 1968 and purchased from Franks Drum Shop, a 12" Zildjian choke/crash I bought on ebay Circa 1950's(??). If I use a hi-hat as here I play a pair of 14" Bosporus which I bought from Steve when his shop was on Michigan Ave. downtown. The woodblock and cowbell are always present.
Ya know to be honest I didn't notice, This was a house set already in place when I got to the gig Thinking back I don't think there was a riser but I can't be certain.. My first set from 1966 had a 20" BD and in 1970 I bought a second set with an 18" BD. There were no such things as BD risers (that I can remember) then so I never used one.and I never had any problems. When risers for small BD's first hit the market it never even occurred to me to buy one. I'd been doing fine without one for decades and it was just one more piece of gear to schlep around.
After this question and my poor memory I had occasion to visit the shop and asked Steve. There was no riser.
this is awesome! what is that type of music called that the first group was playing? were those specific songs or improvised? please, forgive my ignorance, i am 31!
Hey those are all songs. That is called Chicago style trad(traditional) jazz. One of my favorite styles of music!
Hi. I'm the drummer in the first group. Glad you enjoyed the music. Like most Jazz bands going back to when the music was created we play songs, with the jazz element of improvisation. The original New Orleans style had much more collective improvisation and less reliance on individual solos then the later Chicago Style. The first thing we played was called "Marie" written by Irving Berlin in 1928 (Tommy Dorsey later made a hit recording of it with his swing band.) The second tune we did (the third on the video) was called "Tin Roof Blues" it was written by members of a jazz band called the New Orleans Rhythm Kings and first recorded by them in 1923. I am grossly over simplifying (entire books and college classes cover this topic), but in general in the Chicago Style of Trad Jazz we play the theme of the song (sometimes a verse and chorus, mostly just the chorus) a few times with "collective improvisation" then there will be a round of improvised solos by the various instruments (sometimes there will be a collective improvised chorus between solos) then to end the song we go back to the theme and play 2 or three choruses "out". Often the second to last chorus is played softly and the last one is loud as in "Marie". In the case of a Blues often at the end we deliberately slow down as we did to end Tin Roof. This is very typical of even more modern jazz styles. For example the middle group did a Jazz standard called "Autumn Leaves" with a lot of improvisation.
harast52 you did an amazing job man. We all used a three piece kit but you made it work so well. The roots of drumming showcased through you and should make other fans of the history of percussion keep an eye.
@@harast52 - Beautiful job, sir!
@@danlc95 Thanks so much for the kind words. I can play drums to many styles of music but Trad Jazz is my favorite. There's actually a lot of Trad Jazz to be heard in and around Chicage and the guys in the band with me above are among the best.