"would you ride a utility bike" yes absolutely. Whenever I go shopping on a bike with a normal sized rack I have capacity for two bag-for-life bags, but somehow I always walk out of the store with three so that bit of extra space would be welcome. It's not something I'd ride every day however unless it were my only bike.
Milk crate zip tied to a rear rack ain't as cool looking but like that bumper sticker says "Go ahead and laugh, it's paid for." I'd rather save that seven or eight hundred bucks and put it towards an electric fat bike. 👍😄🚲
Yes, I am car-less also, but use a cheap bike and a cheap trailer for shopping. The trailer will hold much more than this cargo bike....and if stolen will lose only about half the money of this bike.
I put panniers in my bike, of course they are smaller than the one on the Mongoose but I also use a backpack and a small trailer, with this my bike can also transport a lot of stuff.
It has been awkward in the past dangling bags off handle bars and other odd things with riding home... long time in the past for me. My daughter has a plastic milk crate design bungeed on top of rack for her purchases- seems to work ok.
@@whenhen theres a reason why truck owners own trucks and not sedans with hitch-trailers. increased turning radius, potentially skittish handling, and you need to be darn deliberate in braking lest the trailer smashes into your back when you need to do a sudden stop.
I got an Envoy right when they came available in the US - they got a lot of buzz after being sold in Canadian Costco stores a year or so ago. Added a BBSHD and 12ah Wolf pack kept in a triangle bag for easy removal. At the store, I pull the battery and take it in with me after locking the bike. An Axiom rack was easy to add to the front for more capacity. Like the Dolomite, this bike is great as a donor DIY platform not just for adding a motor, but taking a great frame and swapping in better drivetrain etc. At $730 vs. any other cargo bike on the market, a fully customized Envoy is typically still a fraction of the cost of a storebought mid tail, and the competent bike builder ends up with a real gem.
this bike is perfect for someone like me who lives in a small town where everything is within a mile of me. post office and stores are half mile from me and i bike everywhere in town, unless its pouring down rain.
This bike was $500 at costco for a year or two now its on amazon with jacked up price and I think its not forsale at costco Guess with all the sales they figure lets up price. lol still decent bike for price though
@@KevCentral Pretty sure its the exact one. THeres post of it on the bike forums site in utility cycling. theres also other ones on other sites. and I looked and the costco listings gone. it was canadian only.
While a cargo bike has no place in my life since I don't have kids, almost never buy more than 2 bags of groceries at a time, and live in a somewhat cramped apartment, it seems ultra practical for many people. If I had kids, had to commute to work with a full set of tools, etc, I'd buy this or a used equivalent in a heartbeat. The Mongoose is probably the best value cargo bike I've ever seen. I'm really impressed that the bike comes stock with knock off Jones handlebars. I have the real thing on my commuter bike and they're phenomenal for urban riding. I wrapped the loop bit with bar tape which provides a large number of hand positions ensuring that my hands don't cramp after an hour in the saddle. Most of the time I hold the grips and this position allows for excellent visibility as well as handling when riding in the city. I also wouldn't be surprised if at least a couple of people used the Mongoose to go on bike tours. The handlebars already support plenty of hand positions, the bike can carry an enormous amount of stuff, the gearing appears to be low enough to tackle most climbs, and the price is extremely low for its category. Plus mountain bike wheels are very durable with 26in tubes and tires plentiful.
I'm single, 67 years and would find this bike very useful. Doesn't need to be a full load all the time. No motor is just fine. Probably easier than pulling a trailer.
I really like that bike. At first I was thinking "a good commuter if you carry stuff", like I do. But the good ride Kev says it has makes me think it has some touring potential as well.
This bike looks like a good candidate for a gas bike or ebike conversion. I think it would be good for touring and extreem long distance rides. i cant wait to see what bike is coming next thanks for the entertainment.
thank you for the HD video and in depth review. I wore through my last bike frame that i converted to an E-bike due to the weight of the battery and cheap Walmart frame. I purchased this bike because of your review, along with a 48V 1500w Rear hub and X2-(48v 20AH) lithium batteries. If my last bike is any indication i should get 60-80 miles of range even with the heavier bike frame, hopefully this will cover my daily 52 mile round trip. This setup is about 1800$ but compared to the current long tail E-bikes, i get three times the range and double the power at less cost than most. please follow up with your loaded down video, i'm excited to see it while i wait for the parts to come in.
I have an Xtracycle longtail conversion of a Trek mountain bike, I did convert it to mechanical disk and they work just fine. It is as close as you can get to a normal (?) bike and keep the almost same handling characteristics.
HUB. Mid-drives are over-rated. With most mid-drive systems, every gear except maybe one is overdrive. Human legs are built for overdrive while motors are built for underdrive. With the except of mountain bikes, pretty much ALL multi-speed externally geared bicycles have one 1:1 gear (at best) and the rest overdrive to some degree or another. Although, it might be possible with a utility bike to have a mid-drive not connected to the bottom bracket and drive the left side of the bike with an underdrive setup. But I am not aware of any commercially available setup like that.
@@dickflinghammer7643 Unless it's going to deal with lots of steep hills, I'd be inclined to use a direct-drive hub motor for a cargo bike like this. Simple, quiet, reliable, and you could use regenerative braking to cut down on wear & tear on the disc brakes. If you do have to deal with lots of steep hills, especially if you're riding up long steep hills with cargo, a heavy-duty mid-drive like the BBSHD may be a better option.
If it had been available in 2015 I'd have bought it. I couldn't find a long john under $2k in my area. I looked for weeks. Then I just sunk money into my old hard frame mountain bike to get it to carry more stuff for me. Beware - someone tried to sell me a cargo frame with road bike wheels not rated for the frame's weight capacity. He bought the bike for the wheels it came with and swapped in a worn out set claiming it was a "like new bike" because the frame only had a few miles on it.
That kickstand is proof this bike was well thought out before manufacturing....but shouldn't we have solid mag wheels on this bike? Those spokes will begin breaking at about 2000 miles.
Another great review. You do the best reviews on TH-cam. No bs. No fluff. .I would definitely ride THAT bike. It is VERY reasonable in price as compared to others I have looked at. I would peel that Mongoose sticker off, slap a Kev Central sticker on it, Change the grips, add some lights and bottle cages and keep her in the hurd.
While I don't have a utility bike, I do have a Dutch style trike with a large basket between the two rear wheels and a smaller basket on the handlebars. This gives me more than enough space to do a fortnightly shop from the supermarket. It also helps that the trike is an electric one making it easy to pedal the heavy weight up the final hill to my house!
Hey Kev. Many months later I'm curious if you're still riding the Mongoose frequently? ("riding the mongoose" sounds like a frat boy bragging about his weekend date)
I found the best mountain bike deals for all my friends. Crazy good deals. What's your price limit and what are you looking for and I would be glad to find you a deal.
If you know what your looking at then this could be the best bike deal reviewed on this channel. Yes folks they weigh that much because its literally a work horse. 100 percent recommend this bike for people that know what it is actually for.
It’s hard to tell on video, but the build quality looks more like what is seen on classic mongoose bikes. Without the branding it could easily be confused for a LBS product.
@@KevCentral Ive seen these bikes in Europe that fetched 2k or more and werent as good as this thing. Its invaluable for city dwellers that commute or work by bike. Great review and a great bike. Possibly one of the best of its kind, and i mean that seriously.
I have heard some good thing about this bike. I know one friend who got one, just to add a Bafang Mid Drive motor and plenty of room for a good battery and with a few upgrades and he's got a great mid drive cargo e bike.
Nope, never. At the turn of the century the bike was fast replacing the horse....then the stinking, polluting, murderous car appeared....and...well....people don't want to use their own power.
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene being able to be warm and dry inside of a capsule helps, oh, and four wheels in winter, that helps too. Quadricycles are hella rare.
90lb. Max rear rack on a cargo bike and 20lb Max in panniers? Not impressed. That barely crests the weight capacity of the average touring bike. If you can't haul around an average sized adult (or kids+cargo) then seems pretty pointless to me.
Interesting concept for mongoose. Not really a big box bike, but more like low-end LBS quality. Personally, I can’t think of a single purpose for my use, other than having something a little different to ride. I also found the fork spring to be an interesting addition, although I didn’t fully understand its usefulness until you rocked the bike back on its U-shaped “kickstand”. Great video!
This is almost jewelry for most european cities where everybody goes shopping by bike. I remember carrying six packs in my backpack and hanging additional shopping bags to the handlebars. It wasn’t fun...
Even on things i disagree with Kev? The fact that you do not accept payment beyond getting access to hardware you might or might not get to keep is a class act. I trust your opinion on most things. Also for some gods only knows reason I like Mongoose as a brand. Also I'm moving out further away from town sometime next year. Downside is less convenient. Upside? Hey we'll have a few acres of land and biking on dirt paths and trials is a thing I can do. Not ideal, but upside is more cycling? Yay.
I would really enjoy one of of those. I'm in my 60's and in my early teens I had a paper route. I destroyed my Western Flyer hauling papers. This bike would be great for grocery shopping. I prefer a heavy bike. I ride a Schwinn Cruiser SS that I earned with sales points from my old job. I love riding it
I believe that the thing on the back of the saddle is meant to be handle for when you're off the bike, or perhaps if someone small is riding on the back....
Assuming it is well built, the price point is pretty good. A good utility bike is a lot of money. They get used in all weather for long shifts on less than ideal road surfaces. The main thing being high reliability and easy quick service. I used to get Chinese food delivered by a similar bike.
Yes I would ride a utility bike. I am currently saving for a Surly Big Dummy. I liked your video and for the money the mongoose seems like a great bicycle.
This appears to be an awesome bicycle to use as a utility bike to take tools out on a trail, for building & maintenance of mountain bike trails. Happy trails! Mongoose ... I would love an Envoy in M/L, to use to build bicycle trails in Texas. =) PS - I can read assembly instructions! =P
Also a mega range with 34 teeth for getting up hills while your carrying weight ,, maybe the electric version of this would be a good proposition,, cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
Can really see the low price coming into effect in the beginning when he pays the bike after putting it together as well as when he slips the bags on it’s already wobbly and flexing. Seems to lack sturdiness especially for a cargo bike.
I kinda like it. I would have 0 use for it, but for the right person (big city?) this would be epic.This thing is screaming for an electric front tire kit LoL...
Outrageous deals on Aliexpress. T800 carbon xc racing frames at 216 bucks. Confirmed quality and ridiculous price. That more or less puts people on ACTUAL RACING XC HARDTAIL BIKES AT 1000 DOLLARS WITH ENTIRE CARBON WHEELSET AND 1X12. You simply have no reason to say you cant afford a competition bike anymore. Its more serious than people think, and could introduce millions more to the sport. The bike revolution is upon us, and everyone else is happy about it.
my problem with panniers on my fuji fat tire hard nose hard tail is that my size 14 feet can't stay in my toe clips // and don't match up well,,, this bike looks nice although a bit pricy, but then again I bought my fuji at half off, and promptly changed out nobbies for semi-slick road tires,,, nice for recent rides,,, haven't been on my 1986 27 inch frame Raleigh bike in a while (since I gave my daughter a set of 700c wheels for a Nishiki we found at a Pflugerville TX Goodwill for $30 bucks,,, keep riding and good job on the full disclosure. I looked at being an amazon linked person in 1998, but it would have violated college/university rules to get a payment on textbook purchases after students visited my page... so, no didn't do that.
The spring behind the frunt forks is a deflopilator please use it's real name as not doing so just make's you sound simple which I now you are not.😎🚴♀️🚴♂️🚴♀️🚴♂️🚴♀️🚴♂️♥️👍
I rode an old Bridgestone with an Xtracycle Freeradical conversion for years (sold before this video was published and just bought a new one yesterday). Those conversion kits are no longer available new and most new longtails cost about twice what this Mongoose is so that's pretty cool. As of this comment you can get the Mongoose for about a grand. I do think the bag options available from Xtracycle are better - much more flexible. I remember carrying multiple large bags of dog food or chicken feed on mine. Handling gets a little squirrely with that weight, but is totally doable. I wonder if you still ride your longtail now - two and a half years later.
I personally would not ride a utility bike right now because I have no need. Everything I ever Cary fits in a little backpack. This bike does not look like a Pacific Cycle licensed Mongoose. It looks like a "started in 1974 Motomag" Mongoose. The "real" Mongoose that moved to Europe (for what ever reason). For what it is, I don't think it's to costly, even with the mechanical disk brakes, considering the amount of material and labor (welding) that went into it. I like it. Just, not for me.
This would be a great bike if it were a FATTY!! I can just imagine rolling on a camping trip with 4"+ tires on this beast. Caring all the items you need... But I recognized it's commuter specific and would actually seem better it it had 27.5 or 700c wheels. Another great video as always!
have a high performance e-bike...totally awesome for solo / unladen travel... now looking for cargo bike for replacing the need to own a car... can always get a rental car when necessary... will need to haul a trailer for larger cargo...like 2 med/lrg dogs... to spec-out an ideal bike... 29er wheels , disc brakes short travel fork step thru frame , front and rear fenders mid frame motor (yamaha or similar) belt drive ,hard tail , cushie seat 3 speed rear hub , currently have a roloff 14 speed rear hub , a lot of frivolous gears for street use and pricey coupler / trailer hook up and cargo rack option 40 mile range lighting and turn signals. how many driver see /know hand signals ? rear view mirror windshield or fairing ok builders lets get cooking !
Thanks so much for this video.... I put mine together earlier today and your tips on the frame and steering connector made it all easy peasy :) took a first ride and have to say I am extremely impressed as it rolls very smoothly right out of the box.
Seems a great price for this type of bike and it's got some pretty competent components. Must be the cheapest cargo bike available or maybe its something that is cheaper in the US than UK but a quick look here all I can find is a frameset for £1000 approx with the Surly brand. Long wheelbase cargo bikes are hugely expensive over here but there are only a few models available mainly by premium brands only.
Yep, i would and do;) got a kona Ute since 5 weeks. Its a 27,5 for the first time in the ute’s history. Swapped out the tires for 2.4 since i like a beefier look. I do some of my shopping with it and got it set up for a 1 week holiday with wife and kid ( no i will not haul them). Loved your review as always!
I actually like it. That's a bike that folks could get really creative with. It could really come in handy just depending on your lifestyle, needs and location. Put some off road treads on that baby and I could see me loading her up with camping gear on the weekend and heading for the woods. College, work too.... it could really be fun. Never seen a utility bike before. Thanks for sharing Kev!
Man, ppl rolling around on these huge bikes, especially e-utility bikes, are gonna get bikes banned from a lot of places. I saw one super awkwardly brought in and take up a big chuck of front room space at a brewpub. They usually allow bike storage in the pub in the next room, but the ute-bike didn't fit, so into what was essentially the bar's lobby it went, the haggard owner not daring to lock their shiny ride outside, even just by the front door.
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Seems like a decent candidate for an electric conversion
BBSHD mid drive would be an easy install.
Would probably be great with a pedal assist system.
Or 49 cc engine
lots of space for batteries,it needs a motor for sure
my thoughts exactly
"would you ride a utility bike" yes absolutely. Whenever I go shopping on a bike with a normal sized rack I have capacity for two bag-for-life bags, but somehow I always walk out of the store with three so that bit of extra space would be welcome. It's not something I'd ride every day however unless it were my only bike.
You can get a kiddie trailer for twins.
Milk crate zip tied to a rear rack ain't as cool looking but like that bumper sticker says "Go ahead and laugh, it's paid for." I'd rather save that seven or eight hundred bucks and put it towards an electric fat bike. 👍😄🚲
Yes, I am car-less also, but use a cheap bike and a cheap trailer for shopping. The trailer will hold much more than this cargo bike....and if stolen will lose only about half the money of this bike.
I put panniers in my bike, of course they are smaller than the one on the Mongoose but I also use a backpack and a small trailer, with this my bike can also transport a lot of stuff.
It has been awkward in the past dangling bags off handle bars and other odd things with riding home... long time in the past for me. My daughter has a plastic milk crate design bungeed on top of rack for her purchases- seems to work ok.
Man, I wish I could get this in germany. As a carless person this would be the last thing I'd need to completely abolish the need for a car.
look at Salsa.
Wouldn't a bike trailer accomplish most of what this does, albeit at a far lower price?
@@whenhen theres a reason why truck owners own trucks and not sedans with hitch-trailers. increased turning radius, potentially skittish handling, and you need to be darn deliberate in braking lest the trailer smashes into your back when you need to do a sudden stop.
Ah man. Gas price in Germany...
Mongoose bekommt man doch auch in Deutschland.
Kevin sees a big rack for storage. I see a great spot for giving friends rides
it's a homie hauler lol
Hope your friend is light. 130 lbs is not a lot of friend.
I weigh 129 lbs in the morning. :D
Kev starts another You Tube channel "Kev hauls stuff on a utility bike!"
Gets arrested for smuggling
Moonshine bike
@@KevCentral can you make more videos with bike
I got an Envoy right when they came available in the US - they got a lot of buzz after being sold in Canadian Costco stores a year or so ago. Added a BBSHD and 12ah Wolf pack kept in a triangle bag for easy removal. At the store, I pull the battery and take it in with me after locking the bike. An Axiom rack was easy to add to the front for more capacity. Like the Dolomite, this bike is great as a donor DIY platform not just for adding a motor, but taking a great frame and swapping in better drivetrain etc. At $730 vs. any other cargo bike on the market, a fully customized Envoy is typically still a fraction of the cost of a storebought mid tail, and the competent bike builder ends up with a real gem.
this bike is perfect for someone like me who lives in a small town where everything is within a mile of me. post office and stores are half mile from me and i bike everywhere in town, unless its pouring down rain.
This looks ideal as a car replacement. 1500W Leafbike kit and a Rockshox fork. So much capacity!
This bike was $500 at costco for a year or two now its on amazon with jacked up price and I think its not forsale at costco Guess with all the sales they figure lets up price. lol still decent bike for price though
darn, totally missed out
I thought this was a new model. Are you sure it was the same bike?
@@KevCentral Pretty sure its the exact one. THeres post of it on the bike forums site in utility cycling. theres also other ones on other sites. and I looked and the costco listings gone. it was canadian only.
While a cargo bike has no place in my life since I don't have kids, almost never buy more than 2 bags of groceries at a time, and live in a somewhat cramped apartment, it seems ultra practical for many people. If I had kids, had to commute to work with a full set of tools, etc, I'd buy this or a used equivalent in a heartbeat. The Mongoose is probably the best value cargo bike I've ever seen.
I'm really impressed that the bike comes stock with knock off Jones handlebars. I have the real thing on my commuter bike and they're phenomenal for urban riding. I wrapped the loop bit with bar tape which provides a large number of hand positions ensuring that my hands don't cramp after an hour in the saddle. Most of the time I hold the grips and this position allows for excellent visibility as well as handling when riding in the city.
I also wouldn't be surprised if at least a couple of people used the Mongoose to go on bike tours. The handlebars already support plenty of hand positions, the bike can carry an enormous amount of stuff, the gearing appears to be low enough to tackle most climbs, and the price is extremely low for its category. Plus mountain bike wheels are very durable with 26in tubes and tires plentiful.
I'm single, 67 years and would find this bike very useful. Doesn't need to be a full load all the time. No motor is just fine. Probably easier than pulling a trailer.
I donnt drive so all these utility bikes intrest me. The biggest problem with it would be my citys lack of bicycle infastructure
Finally, a bike with out a motor on it
Connor FOOD It would definitely have an adverse affect on Kev's recently-acquired E-Bike Fitness Level.
It would be great with one though, the kind that go on the chainstay
I was watching this thinking I would love to put a motor on it!
This is definitely a great candidate for an ebike.
Yeah ..a motorcycle !! just what this obese society needs !! ( little humor here)
I really like that bike. At first I was thinking "a good commuter if you carry stuff", like I do. But the good ride Kev says it has makes me think it has some touring potential as well.
This bike looks like a good candidate for a gas bike or ebike conversion. I think it would be good for touring and extreem long distance rides. i cant wait to see what bike is coming next thanks for the entertainment.
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I prefer mechanical brakes over hydraulic, and at that price they could've specced it with nicer mechanical brakes like TRP Spykes.
thank you for the HD video and in depth review.
I wore through my last bike frame that i converted to an E-bike due to the weight of the battery and cheap Walmart frame.
I purchased this bike because of your review, along with a 48V 1500w Rear hub and X2-(48v 20AH) lithium batteries.
If my last bike is any indication i should get 60-80 miles of range even with the heavier bike frame, hopefully this will cover my daily 52 mile round trip.
This setup is about 1800$ but compared to the current long tail E-bikes, i get three times the range and double the power at less cost than most.
please follow up with your loaded down video, i'm excited to see it while i wait for the parts to come in.
I have an Xtracycle longtail conversion of a Trek mountain bike, I did convert it to mechanical disk and they work just fine. It is as close as you can get to a normal (?) bike and keep the almost same handling characteristics.
This would be perfect for a motorized bike build
Wait, wait, wait. Pause the video, my nachos aren't ready yet.
Costs double to have it here in europe😅 1630$ Shipping and taxes. Thanks anyway!
That actually looks like a great commuter/automobile replacement for those that can do it. Interesting, I like seeing options like this!
i like it! it would be a great one for an e-bike conversion for commuter duty.
Hub or mid-drive?
HUB. Mid-drives are over-rated. With most mid-drive systems, every gear except maybe one is overdrive. Human legs are built for overdrive while motors are built for underdrive. With the except of mountain bikes, pretty much ALL multi-speed externally geared bicycles have one 1:1 gear (at best) and the rest overdrive to some degree or another.
Although, it might be possible with a utility bike to have a mid-drive not connected to the bottom bracket and drive the left side of the bike with an underdrive setup. But I am not aware of any commercially available setup like that.
@@dickflinghammer7643 Unless it's going to deal with lots of steep hills, I'd be inclined to use a direct-drive hub motor for a cargo bike like this. Simple, quiet, reliable, and you could use regenerative braking to cut down on wear & tear on the disc brakes.
If you do have to deal with lots of steep hills, especially if you're riding up long steep hills with cargo, a heavy-duty mid-drive like the BBSHD may be a better option.
@@dickflinghammer7643 mid drive
@@jasonsebikes8716 i live in West Virginia, hills are away of life.
How do I get one of the KevCental stickers? Do you sell them?
Figured it out. I am now a patron and cant hardly wait to get my sticker
Thanks for being part of the channel and being a Patron. As a Patron you’ll get a free sticker by default.
How long has this channel been a thing coz It deserves more subs
April 8th 2011
Looking to get this bike myself, and convert it to electric. Note here your link is too old and no longer works. Got an updated one? :)
This bike might as well replace my car for a fraction of the price.
If it had been available in 2015 I'd have bought it. I couldn't find a long john under $2k in my area. I looked for weeks. Then I just sunk money into my old hard frame mountain bike to get it to carry more stuff for me. Beware - someone tried to sell me a cargo frame with road bike wheels not rated for the frame's weight capacity. He bought the bike for the wheels it came with and swapped in a worn out set claiming it was a "like new bike" because the frame only had a few miles on it.
That kickstand is proof this bike was well thought out before manufacturing....but shouldn't we have solid mag wheels on this bike? Those spokes will begin breaking at about 2000 miles.
yes utility bikes are the most important type, everyone should have one, so there are less cars on the road
Another great review. You do the best reviews on TH-cam. No bs. No fluff. .I would definitely ride THAT bike. It is VERY reasonable in price as compared to others I have looked at. I would peel that Mongoose sticker off, slap a Kev Central sticker on it, Change the grips, add some lights and bottle cages and keep her in the hurd.
I would like to bike the frame itself - for a custom build.
Wow, that seems like a nice bike. Much lower cost than the Yuba Mundo LUX. Love these bikes for getting people to ride more often
While I don't have a utility bike, I do have a Dutch style trike with a large basket between the two rear wheels and a smaller basket on the handlebars. This gives me more than enough space to do a fortnightly shop from the supermarket. It also helps that the trike is an electric one making it easy to pedal the heavy weight up the final hill to my house!
Looks really well thought out. Good price and quality.
@kevcentral could have the nishiki colarado?
I will pay for it. I cant really afford a bike and I have been borrowing people bikes and I want a mountain bike of my own that is quality
Could have the nishiki Colorado what?
@@hellojrod I was rushing to comment first lmao
Hey Kev. Many months later I'm curious if you're still riding the Mongoose frequently?
("riding the mongoose" sounds like a frat boy bragging about his weekend date)
That looks promising! Kev, how about some upgrades??
I'm really tryna save for a hardtail mtb but I'm broke as hell😂😂
There are some good cheap bikes on Facebook marketplace.
@@j.a.q.u.b thanks man I don't have a Facebook but now I know I'll look more into the marketplace
I found the best mountain bike deals for all my friends. Crazy good deals. What's your price limit and what are you looking for and I would be glad to find you a deal.
I'm broke too lol
@@dickflinghammer7643 400$
I would ride a utility bike. But $750 for this seems steep.
Is the derailleur mounted directly to the frame? I did not see a derailleur hanger...
at least it looks like it's directly mounted.
I absolutely would ride it, i use a plastic basket in my bike to do errans
put a motor on it and it could b a great shuttle if u could get an mtb on the back.
Great vid like always
If you know what your looking at then this could be the best bike deal reviewed on this channel. Yes folks they weigh that much because its literally a work horse. 100 percent recommend this bike for people that know what it is actually for.
It’s hard to tell on video, but the build quality looks more like what is seen on classic mongoose bikes. Without the branding it could easily be confused for a LBS product.
@@KevCentral Ive seen these bikes in Europe that fetched 2k or more and werent as good as this thing. Its invaluable for city dwellers that commute or work by bike. Great review and a great bike. Possibly one of the best of its kind, and i mean that seriously.
I have heard some good thing about this bike. I know one friend who got one, just to add a Bafang Mid Drive motor and plenty of room for a good battery and with a few upgrades and he's got a great mid drive cargo e bike.
Sounds like a great idea. I've considered it myself but living in an apartment it wouldn't fit in my elevator. :(
@@michaelsprinzeles4022 you can stand it up straight as the rear lower rack and upper rack forms a 'flat' surface.
Utility bikes look pretty rad. I'd like to see more of them than cars, but that sadly won't happen.
Nope, never. At the turn of the century the bike was fast replacing the horse....then the stinking, polluting, murderous car appeared....and...well....people don't want to use their own power.
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene being able to be warm and dry inside of a capsule helps, oh, and four wheels in winter, that helps too. Quadricycles are hella rare.
Man thats a pretty sweet bike.. not bad not bad at all . I would buy
Seems like a reasonable price for a bike that does what it does. Good review! Thanks!
Well go on now. Make that video of it loaded down.
90lb. Max rear rack on a cargo bike and 20lb Max in panniers? Not impressed. That barely crests the weight capacity of the average touring bike. If you can't haul around an average sized adult (or kids+cargo) then seems pretty pointless to me.
I got a yuba mundo classic instead, you can carry 300+ pounds (not including rider weight)
That's a pretty good price for a cargo bike.
I worked on one of those at thr shop. Its a solid bike and would put it up beside any other cargo style bike like Kona Ute.
Good for a Costco run! I like it.
I wish I lived where I needed a bike like that. 700 seems like a deal to me
Wow $1,000+ pretty expensive
Interesting concept for mongoose. Not really a big box bike, but more like low-end LBS quality. Personally, I can’t think of a single purpose for my use, other than having something a little different to ride.
I also found the fork spring to be an interesting addition, although I didn’t fully understand its usefulness until you rocked the bike back on its U-shaped “kickstand”.
Great video!
Next venture: Kevs Delivery
In all seriousness, this is a great looking bike.
Great bike for my small business
This is almost jewelry for most european cities where everybody goes shopping by bike. I remember carrying six packs in my backpack and hanging additional shopping bags to the handlebars. It wasn’t fun...
It would be great if it will be available in EU.
It’s over $1000 now omg
It's like a touring bike and commuter bike put together I like the design and the finish as always great review kev
Perfect for driving your friends around on the luggage rack😂
Even on things i disagree with Kev? The fact that you do not accept payment beyond getting access to hardware you might or might not get to keep is a class act. I trust your opinion on most things. Also for some gods only knows reason I like Mongoose as a brand.
Also I'm moving out further away from town sometime next year. Downside is less convenient. Upside? Hey we'll have a few acres of land and biking on dirt paths and trials is a thing I can do. Not ideal, but upside is more cycling? Yay.
I would really enjoy one of of those. I'm in my 60's and in my early teens I had a paper route. I destroyed my Western Flyer hauling papers. This bike would be great for grocery shopping. I prefer a heavy bike. I ride a Schwinn Cruiser SS that I earned with sales points from my old job. I love riding it
I believe that the thing on the back of the saddle is meant to be handle for when you're off the bike, or perhaps if someone small is riding on the back....
Assuming it is well built, the price point is pretty good. A good utility bike is a lot of money. They get used in all weather for long shifts on less than ideal road surfaces. The main thing being high reliability and easy quick service. I used to get Chinese food delivered by a similar bike.
But… you can't do barspin with that spring on fork!
Great video, you should get paid for these.
I just ordered mine, it comes on Friday!!!!
Congrats
Yes I would ride a utility bike. I am currently saving for a Surly Big Dummy. I liked your video and for the money the mongoose seems like a great bicycle.
I see a cargo bike. I like. 😁
I ordered my envoy bike today can't wait to get it man
Congrats
that bike is THICC
This appears to be an awesome bicycle to use as a utility bike to take tools out on a trail, for building & maintenance of mountain bike trails. Happy trails!
Mongoose ... I would love an Envoy in M/L, to use to build bicycle trails in Texas. =)
PS - I can read assembly instructions! =P
That's a neat bike. Very interested on your next video on how it handles at full weight. As always, love the video
Also a mega range with 34 teeth for getting up hills while your carrying weight ,, maybe the electric version of this would be a good proposition,, cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
That's an awesome bike!! If I had a job that required it or maybe a more bike friendly city I'd get it in a heart beat
No E Bike😠
Can really see the low price coming into effect in the beginning when he pays the bike after putting it together as well as when he slips the bags on it’s already wobbly and flexing. Seems to lack sturdiness especially for a cargo bike.
I kinda like it. I would have 0 use for it, but for the right person (big city?) this would be epic.This thing is screaming for an electric front tire kit LoL...
Yes I would ride one I like that one cuz you got to settle bags on each side. And can this also carry a cargo trailer on the back extra carrying stuff
Needs to have dynamo lights, or at the least, a dynamo mounting bracket on the front fork.
Outrageous deals on Aliexpress. T800 carbon xc racing frames at 216 bucks. Confirmed quality and ridiculous price. That more or less puts people on ACTUAL RACING XC HARDTAIL BIKES AT 1000 DOLLARS WITH ENTIRE CARBON WHEELSET AND 1X12. You simply have no reason to say you cant afford a competition bike anymore. Its more serious than people think, and could introduce millions more to the sport. The bike revolution is upon us, and everyone else is happy about it.
That bike would be perfect to convert into an ebike (using a Bafang BBSHD or BBS02B).
Would a 4-stroke bicycle gas motor fit in that bike?
my problem with panniers on my fuji fat tire hard nose hard tail is that my size 14 feet can't stay in my toe clips // and don't match up well,,, this bike looks nice although a bit pricy, but then again I bought my fuji at half off, and promptly changed out nobbies for semi-slick road tires,,, nice for recent rides,,, haven't been on my 1986 27 inch frame Raleigh bike in a while (since I gave my daughter a set of 700c wheels for a Nishiki we found at a Pflugerville TX Goodwill for $30 bucks,,, keep riding and good job on the full disclosure. I looked at being an amazon linked person in 1998, but it would have violated college/university rules to get a payment on textbook purchases after students visited my page... so, no didn't do that.
The spring behind the frunt forks is a deflopilator please use it's real name as not doing so just make's you sound simple which I now you are not.😎🚴♀️🚴♂️🚴♀️🚴♂️🚴♀️🚴♂️♥️👍
Do the Eurobike EURE7 Mountain Bike 27.5 Inches Wheels Dual Suspension Mountain Bicycle 21 Speed MTB k wheel
Awesome ! Great review ....i would love to have one of these ....they're 1100 bucks now though😢
I rode an old Bridgestone with an Xtracycle Freeradical conversion for years (sold before this video was published and just bought a new one yesterday). Those conversion kits are no longer available new and most new longtails cost about twice what this Mongoose is so that's pretty cool. As of this comment you can get the Mongoose for about a grand.
I do think the bag options available from Xtracycle are better - much more flexible. I remember carrying multiple large bags of dog food or chicken feed on mine. Handling gets a little squirrely with that weight, but is totally doable. I wonder if you still ride your longtail now - two and a half years later.
I personally would not ride a utility bike right now because I have no need. Everything I ever Cary fits in a little backpack. This bike does not look like a Pacific Cycle licensed Mongoose. It looks like a "started in 1974 Motomag" Mongoose. The "real" Mongoose that moved to Europe (for what ever reason). For what it is, I don't think it's to costly, even with the mechanical disk brakes, considering the amount of material and labor (welding) that went into it. I like it. Just, not for me.
This would be a great bike if it were a FATTY!! I can just imagine rolling on a camping trip with 4"+ tires on this beast. Caring all the items you need... But I recognized it's commuter specific and would actually seem better it it had 27.5 or 700c wheels. Another great video as always!
This is great! Would love to own one.
Still i have a cargo bike with a box in front. Guess i need to have my kids in front :P
have a high performance e-bike...totally awesome for solo / unladen travel...
now looking for cargo bike for replacing the need to own a car...
can always get a rental car when necessary...
will need to haul a trailer for larger cargo...like 2 med/lrg dogs...
to spec-out an ideal bike...
29er wheels , disc brakes
short travel fork
step thru frame , front and rear fenders
mid frame motor (yamaha or similar)
belt drive ,hard tail , cushie seat
3 speed rear hub , currently have a roloff 14 speed rear hub , a lot of frivolous gears for street use and pricey
coupler / trailer hook up and cargo rack option
40 mile range
lighting and turn signals. how many driver see /know hand signals ?
rear view mirror
windshield or fairing
ok builders lets get cooking !
Thanks so much for this video.... I put mine together earlier today and your tips on the frame and steering connector made it all easy peasy :) took a first ride and have to say I am extremely impressed as it rolls very smoothly right out of the box.
Seems a great price for this type of bike and it's got some pretty competent components. Must be the cheapest cargo bike available or maybe its something that is cheaper in the US than UK but a quick look here all I can find is a frameset for £1000 approx with the Surly brand. Long wheelbase cargo bikes are hugely expensive over here but there are only a few models available mainly by premium brands only.
Yep, i would and do;) got a kona Ute since 5 weeks. Its a 27,5 for the first time in the ute’s history. Swapped out the tires for 2.4 since i like a beefier look. I do some of my shopping with it and got it set up for a 1 week holiday with wife and kid ( no i will not haul them). Loved your review as always!
I actually like it. That's a bike that folks could get really creative with. It could really come in handy just depending on your lifestyle, needs and location. Put some off road treads on that baby and I could see me loading her up with camping gear on the weekend and heading for the woods. College, work too.... it could really be fun. Never seen a utility bike before. Thanks for sharing Kev!
Throw some knobby tires on it & take it off road!!
You'll be slamming trees on tight turns with the back end.
Man, ppl rolling around on these huge bikes, especially e-utility bikes, are gonna get bikes banned from a lot of places. I saw one super awkwardly brought in and take up a big chuck of front room space at a brewpub. They usually allow bike storage in the pub in the next room, but the ute-bike didn't fit, so into what was essentially the bar's lobby it went, the haggard owner not daring to lock their shiny ride outside, even just by the front door.