*Disclaimer: We have now sold this car due to the ongoing issues with our original and replacement car along with the horrendous customer service.* We strongly advise you view the final a3 video first before deciding to order - it could save you a lot of grief: th-cam.com/video/cyew5BwGCjA/w-d-xo.html ***The 40tfsie does 0-60 in 7.6 and the 45tfsie does it in 6.8.*** thanks to Salvors125 for pointing this out. ***It is also worth checking if this car becomes a cheaper option through a company car scheme (if in the UK) due to the benefit in kind tax reduction.***
Nice review! I've got this car in December with 18" alloys, and with the comfort and sound pack. I got it on a lease which was about £100 more a month than the 35 TFSI. I think I can save about £30/£40 a month in fuel and a lot more in London Congestion Charge but have still been very surprised by how few miles you get out of the electric motor. The range starts at about 30miles, all of a sudden you've driven 2 miles and the range has gone down by 5. It seems quite affected by things like whether you've got the heated seats on, air con etc. One thing I do really like though is how quick it is, the 0-60 is quicker than a 35 TFSI but the 0-30/0-40 I found to be much much quicker as the battery adds a lot of responsiveness in power. Great video- agreed with a lot of it
Thanks Aarun for the kind words, hope you've subscribed to help us grow. You're absolutely right the acceleration feels fun and that probably came across in my voice :) Also happy to hear you went for the comfort and sound upgrade, this I think is too often overlooked and you get so much with it. The owner too described the fluctuating range. I was parked up during the review and it went up lol.
@@milpatel83 thanks for watching bud, hope you've subscribed for future content and to help us grow :) This car was not mine and was borrowed from a fellow subscriber, I will reach out to them and ask their views. I do know that the range was fluctuating up and down depending on the temperature. In the time I drove it went up by 1 mile
@@pa_alia I haven’t done this often but would say 25 miles. Not very impressive given the time to charge. I drive around central London and I can’t say I particularly try to drive efficiently so maybe you’d get more. My MPG on hybrid mode is about 40 (this is the mode I normally drive). I don’t regret getting the hybrid model I think it’s extra power makes for a much more fun drive, and if you can charge at home overnight it would be great
Most of these cars are going to end up as company fleet cars or private lease contract. We at work are being pushed to full electric vehicles or the very least a petrol hybrid due to the tax cut incentives and the company wanting to look green. I've just ordered the A3 tsfi e. I live on a street and cannot always park right outside my house. So I'm a little apprehensive how I'm going charge it at times because the company isn't installing chargers at work yet, maybe in the future they will. I know it has a petrol engine too but that's not the point of these vehicles to continually run them on petrol. the range is a little on the poor side, like you say the tech is quite there yet. But I'm looking forward to receiving it sometime in the summer. Great review.
Totally agree with your points, I hope they figure out charging in the next decade or so. I also think the moment the tax from petrol and diesel start to die down, magically all of the incentives will dissapear for electric cars and the cost might even start going up.
@@CRD90 I said that about the tax incentives too, someone higher up in the work place mentioned future road pricing. So rather than paying tax we may have to have devices in the car that track where we go and when, and you get a bill and it's deducted from your account accordingly. Simular to how your phone works.
Informative review but I personally feel you were approaching the review with a negative view beforehand as you kept referring to your Edition 1. This car is aimed more towards company car users and the £7k increase is saved (and more) just by pure savings in BiK tax. Also yes we get it, it doesn’t come with heated seats as standard but the Comfort and Sound Package which includes heated seats and Bang & Olufsen is only £1.2k … check how much a company like BMW charge for B&O alone. Finally the 18 inch alloys I agree don’t look as nice as nice as 19 or 20 would do, but this is again due to the savings in BiK tax. The car is marketed for a completely different audience than you think. I’ll check out a few more of your reviews as you provide sound content, just a few words of advice from me.
Thanks bro, completely valid points and one of my very first reviews. Hope you enjoy the rest of the channel, you may be interested we just sold our second A3 after a handful of issues 👍🏽
On my A3 e-tron i enjoy 8 Yr full factory warranty on all High-Voltage components! including the HV parts in the drive-train. Don't worry about it. All my commute's are within 70% of the max. battery range! And yes, I was prepared to pay for EV-commute and having a car that can drive us to other destinations on petrol.
Thanks for commenting and watching bud. Always helps to have real owner experiences. I personally preferred the e-tron over this newer version. I had one for a few days back in 2015 (extended test drive and loved it!) Hope you've subscribed for new content and to support our growth 👍🏽
The Hybrid versions of Audi and VW has a vacuum gastank which is why there's a button to open the gastank as this one will even out the vacuum så you can open that cap ;)
Thanks for commenting Christian, hope you've subscribed for upcoming content and to support us grow. That is really handy to know and explains it - it did puzzle me - thanks for the insight 👍🏽
Thanks for watching Gary, hope your subscribed for more content and to help us grow 👍🏽 I think the thing with acceleration is in reality you won't be using it from a standstill all the time so the novelty wears off very quickly. On this particular model I would recommend the 1.5tfsi and an edition 1 spec as you'll get much more bang for your buck. I very rarely feel the 1.5tfsi is slow, and I drive a 400hp Toyota Supra
im driving a audi a3 etron 2015 and looking a bit into the new one or other hybrids but maybe i like my old 2015s interior and exterior better? this one seems a little cheaper in materials etc.
I bought mine in December and probably had the first on on the road in the Uk after waiting 12 weeks. Absolutely love it, lots of toys great spec and I am still learning all the time.....it is even self charging. I have only got 33 miles to a charge so far so I am hoping when the warm weather comes it will get up to the 38 miles claimed
Thanks for watching and commenting Ian always great to have an owner's first hand feedback 👍🏽 Hope you've subscribed for more content and to support the growth. What are your thoughts on the new s-line competition trim?
e-charge flap on the side panel instead of on the nose ? = a really good idea! This winter I had to clean and wipe and clean snow and frozen stuff of, and still I could not fit the charge-connector due to frozen stuff in (and behind) the o-so-stylish and much to delicate (multiple tiny hinges) Audi flap. I would trade my front cover (MY2017) for the side cover in the blink of an eye.
Thanks Jaap, never thought of it like that! Actually makes a bit more sense although I still think cosmetically it looks better on the front. But I always love hearing real life owner stories 👍🏽 Thanks for sharing 😊
The Audi A4 Mild Hybrid is probably a complete waste of money. reduces fuel consumption by only about three deciliters per mile at best. and does it not have a real boost effect on any electric motor?
Gained a good promotion at work and this car is on my new company car list, ordered it in Narvara blue and black leather and leather ish interior, with the comfort pack, and larger alloys. First time with a German built car. Work is really pushing EV and hybrid cars. Due to the bik tax. So I will pay a little less and I know that will change the government will want money back when tax receipts drop on petrol and diesel in the future. But for now I'm going to give it a go and any bills are paid for via work with future issues like battery life I am really look forward to getting it now. Going to try and embrace the future (ish) via work paying for it and maybe in another 3 years the battery technology will have made a leap again.
Hopefully bud, I hope the tech advances in the next decade or so in time for when they discontinue conventional engines. I think my next car (next 3 years or so time) will be a hybrid too. They are continuously increasing taxes on petrol and diesel cars so it's becoming harder to justify. P.s I love that colour! Wish I had picked that
What is the fuel consumption like on motorways? I do 200 miles a week with 100 miles of that bring on a motorway and the rest being stop start city driving and a few 50mph roads... WHAT MPG are you getting on motorways?
Congrats buddy, make sure to check the rest of the channel out for everything else to do with the 8y. You made the right call going for one already in stock, the wait time on these are starting to become ridiculous now. Make sure you've subscribed to stay up to date with the latest content and to help us grow 😊
Hi 380maxa, thanks for watching and subscribing, hope you enjoy upcoming videos and other content across the channel. The driving portion was done in ev mode, I switched to this earlier in the video using the settings switch. The way the ending kicks in and out though is very similar to the automatic start stop feature found on petrol cars like my 35tfsi. Hope that helps. Auzzam
I would say that these hybrids will be better and great around the 4th generation. The car I drive is a 1st gen hybrid (330e, great car) and at first I got about 20-24miles of battery only driving now after 3years I am lucky to get 13 miles after a full charge and the battery after a drive around town will be nearly half dead. I don’t think these cars are the future until they make massive improvements to the battery life and the size and weight. Also the electric motors need to be improved I see the electric motors getting larger and the petrol engines getting smaller. I would not bother with these, I was tempted to get this same one (decided against it, went for the petrol) as when the battery dies or ‘empty’ the 1.4 engine has to not only pull the car but also a dead battery and electric motor and you as well. Anyway great review
Hi Chaka, Thanks again for watching and commenting 💯 agree with your comments. My cousin owned a 330e and it was lovely. But really good that you can share your experiences a few years on, that is quite the battery degradation. Which spec have you ordered? / Purchased?
@@CRD90 yeah I went for the 35 TFSI EDITION 1 with the comfort &sound pack but I went for the hatch over the saloon.. No reason as I liked the look of both but it was a flip of a coin decision as I was boring everyone with my talk of which to go for
I have the Mk1 version of the A3 Sportback E-tron (2018 "mild" facelift), which is basically the same as the Tfsi e but with a smaller battery (8.8kwh vs 14.kwh, 29 miles vs 41 miles) . I've read that Audi (and VAG) is very conservative in their quotes for battery degradation. When I bought mine used end-Feb 2020, I was getting 20 miles range. This went up to 23-24 miles in the summer (milder weather is easier on battery life) and is back to 20 miles currently (Jan 2021). This covers my 18 mile round-commute, with occassional dabs of heating/AC or heated seat use. I'm confident that the battery will last-it's the complex drivetrain, with dual clutch gearbox, motor and dual mass flywheel that I'm more concerned about failing in the long-term. It's by far the most luxurious, quiet and comfortable car I've had, I'm just having to consider whether to extend the warranty in a few months, or set some money aside for any issues that might arise in the 7-10 years I plan to keep the car. I would say that if I had had around £35-40k to spend at the time, I probably would have got an EV, but the A3 Etron less than 2 years old was more than half the price and fully laden with every option bar e-cockpit and the Bose sound system (I have the Audi sound system option and it sounds pretty good to me!)
hello , how much kmts is when the charge is complete¿? , in mine is 48 kms only , never 61 that marc on the caracteriticas of this model , is it normal?
Hey bud, it can vary depending on a few things such as the weather how cold it is as the range decreases. I only had this for a short while so was unable to test the full charge range unfortunately
if you buy a regular petrol car in Sweden, you have to pay extremely much tax the first three years, type ten times more in tax than if you buy a hybrid car or electric car or a car that can run on biogas or natural gas. the tax is based on how many grams of carbon dioxide a car emits
Hey man, buying this car is not worth it outside of germany. Here you get a 6750€ discount for every electric or hybrid vehicle, 2250€ from the car producer and 4500€ from the gouvernment. That is the only reason why i ordered one. But outside of germany it isnt worth it at all.
Thanks for watching and commenting Nemanja - hope you've subscribed for more content and to help us grow :) You're absolutely right, if there was a decent incentive like in Germany that's much better as it becomes only a little bit more than a petrol sline version. Your discount alone would pretty much cover the £7k gap. I think the UK government is pretty behind on this at the moment I absolutely believe government and dealers need to work together to drive down the cost of hybrids it they really want everyone to buy them. Out of interest were you able to freely spec the car in Germany? Or is it pre-bundled like the UK?
@@CRD90 Yeah so basically you pay about the same and you get 204 hp, so much more performance. So thats a great deal. Maybe UK will do something similar in the future. Yeah, actually we can configurate the car however we want to with all options and extras. I just tried to configurate my a3 40 tfsi e on the audi uk site. There is actually a lot missing. No massage seats, no memory function for your electric seats. No ambient lighting plus, just the normal ambient lighting. Maybe I just missed it , but from what I have seen, germans have much more to choose from. I didnt know you guys over there have to choose from pre-bundles. Imagine paying so much money and not being able to spec your car how you want to. Pretty messed up in my opinion. Is it the same with other brands like BMW and Mercedes? Sry if I misunderstood or misspelled anything, my english is far from perfect 😁 Greetings from Düsseldorf Germany ✌️
@@nemanjamalesevic5459 no worries bud, your English is perfectly fine! Yeah most dealers offer bundles. It's so strange. I think over here the ambient lighting pack is just called that without the plus. But it's strange, I would have loved some of the euro spec on my car e.g the different alloys, blacked out badges but maybe it works out cheaper for Audi UK to only have bundles created and sent from Germany because it's offshore. And maybe mainland Europe have access to wider variety because it's cheaper to transport the cars?
@@WinkelHoof thanks for watching and commenting :) That's true, and there is now actually an s-line competition trim available which is even more expensive. you've subscribed
Great video! Personally I don’t think I would spend so much on a electric ⚡️ car right now. One they are so expensive and I don’t think I would spend that much money on petrol over 3 years.
Yeah exactly my point, I just don't feel the longevity of a hybrid/electric car is up there right now to justify the extra money. I just feel they've made even more cutbacks on an sline model that is ironically more expensive than a petrol sline yet has less
@@AdamCalow But if you do short trips the electric battery will go very quickly and then you will never be able to recharge while in motion. So yeah, you have to charge it quite often, in general.
Hey Ramanan, yep you are right... But this isn't a proper hybrid battery, instead it just let's the car switch off when coasting and the battery keeps the electronics running in the car. Where as normally when a car turns on and off you would lose the radio etc, with the mild hybrid battery it keeps the electronics on even when the car temporarily switches off
@@CRD90 ahhh I see. Thanks for clarifying. Do you think it actually makes any real world difference to the mpg then, would be great if it can do close to 60mpg!
@@ramananraj4891 it probably makes some difference I guess, but is also the source for some of the electrical gremlins and warning lights... The best mpg I've got is 52mpg on a motorway which is easy to obtain
These cars are mostly suited to company car drivers, the tax is ridiculously cheap, otherwise unless you drive around town centres mostly...I don't see any reason to buy one. Just for info, the Merc A class equivalent gets around 34 miles from a charge on a mix of A road and Motorway which I thought was impressive.
Thanks for watching PazAudi - you're absolutely right as a company car it works out great due to BIK. Hope you've subscribed for more content and to help us grow, you could be our 400th sub! :)
It is well higher above the ground than ordinary petrol-powered A3 so that no curbs or anything else will hit under the battery. if something hits under the battery, it can be a disaster in the worst case, such as a violent fire
I can order this or the vorsprung as a company car, vorsprung works out nearly 400pm in tax vs 40 e with every option fitted 126pm tax. Not sure which route to go down, any advice???
Hey buddy, thanks for watching and hope you've subscribed for upcoming content. We've actually just realised a really good video on the comfort and sound pack which is a must if you go down the electric route rather than vorsprung. I think with a company car, it's probably better going for the electric version fully specd out because you won't have the car over a super long time and it will always be the leasing companies responsibility to fix it should anything go wrong. It's also worth looking at the new s-line competition trim for the 45tfsie which is a much better looking version and the one I would go for (black styling pack, better alloys)
This car makes much more sense as a salary sacrifice car compared to the s3 because bik tax is so much lower, I pay £290 a month for this car with everything included, bargain if I do say so.
Thanks for watching and commenting Connor, hope you've subscribed for more weekly A3 content and to help us grow 😊 Absolutely agree as a company car it's great as like you said the bik brings the price down 👍🏽
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Does any one know the pn for the 15kwh battery and if its possible to fit it to the previous models?? I'm guessing it's the same size. One thing I hate about my previous model a3 etron is the battery life its absolutely sucks
Hi Salvors, Thanks for watching, hope you've subscribed for more upcoming content and to help us grow. Unfortunately I was unable to test on this car as I was reviewing a real owners car so did not want to perform any standstill tests out of respect. It is quoted at 6.8 seconds according to the Audi website though
@@salvors125 thanks bro I must have got it the wrong way round. It definitely feels a lot quicker acceleration than the 35 TFSI. Are you looking to get one?
Nice one, I think as a company car these work out pretty good value rather than buying the car direct from the dealer. When is your build week out of interest? It seems like the factory currently have a delay due to missing "chips"
@@CRD90 I wasn't able to, only choice was standard sline, with or without the sound and comfort pack and 18inch or 17inch wheels, think it was to do with lease company not having wltp figures for vehicles with options fitted, either way looking forward to its arrival 👍
Unfortunately it is not possible to add additional options to your chosen vehicle. The Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure (WLTP) is replacing the NEDC test procedure for establishing the official CO2 emissions of new cars. Vehicles delivered after 6th April 2020 must be tested with any optional equipment fitted to provide an accurate CO2 emissions figure. Unfortunately manufacturers have not yet provided us with this information and so this car must be quoted "as standard".
Good review 👌🏽 However, l think you were being overly critical on this car. Yes, some improvements could be made but it’s far better than the majority of phev cars out there. I bought one and tbh l don’t regret it. A lot of reaction videos are biased and subjective, similar to movie reviews. In future, l would advise to be more neutral. With that in mind, l would advise anyone to test it out because it is an efficient car when CHARGED properly. Peace brother 👍🏽
Thanks bud, appreciate the feedback and definitely something I'll try to work on 👍 Glad you're enjoying the 8y, one of the main things I missed out of this review was the company car incentives and how the tax helps.
What is the fuel consumption like on motorways? I do 200 miles a week with 100 miles of that bring on a motorway and the rest being stop start city driving and a few 50mph roads... WHAT MPG are you getting on motorways?
Thanks for showing the standard suspension; the vast majority of videos and photos of A3’s seem to be S-Line with sports springs/dampers. It does ride rather high :-( Did it feel much different when you were driving, compared to yours? I agree with you about the added complexity and cost compared to the likely savings. Perhaps this is a car for those with short commutes, to maximise the use of electric only during the week whilst having the range of the petrol engine for longer journeys?
Thanks for watching bud, yeah the ride felt smoother but it was probably a combo of the 18" alloys as well as the suspension. To be honest in grey and at that ride height it looked similar to a Mercedes-Benz GLA which you'll probably see it now if you pause it. Be warned it can never been unseen! Yeah I feel this is for more shorter journeys, but then again I still do not feel it justifies the price increase. My brother owns a phev and has a proper charging point installed. He's given up with charging as it became a hassle. I personally feel it will take society time to adapt to plugging in our cars overnight and it will only work for those who have suitable houses/driveways.
@@CRD90 Thanks for the info about the suspension. And interesting to hear about your brother. I was toying with the idea of getting a Hyundai Ionic for some time before settling on the A3 so I spent a fair amount of time looking into the pros and cons of hybrids. Aside from the particular circumstance of a short commute together with a driveway/garage for charging most people probably get more bang for their buck with a so called self-charging hybrid rather than a plug-in. I’ve happily settled for the mild hybrid as a small stepping stone towards electrification :-)
@@AdamCalow absolutely I think the mhev is a step in the right direction. Have you got yours yet? One thing I've noticed when I have the heating on full blast is that it tends to go quiet and to a lower fan speed when I lift of the accelerator which can get a bit annoying.
@@CRD90 I don’t get mine for a month or two yet. I’m surprised to hear about the reduced fan speed: I thought the whole point of the 42V battery was that all the electrical systems could continue running as normal with the engine off?
@@AdamCalow yeah the virtual cockpit and mmi are seamless as in they do not reboot or anything like that. I wonder if any of the other subscribers can comment on the heater issue. I wonder if that is the way it is supposed to work or if mine is just buggy! Would also be interesting to know if non mhev models heating works in a similar way.
You have to reckon with the cost of gasoline. an average person in driving about 15,000 km per year. Calculate the cost of gas for It. + tax + repair costs. and financial bonuses that you can get in several different countries. in Sweden you can get up to 6000 euros NOTE the car must be brand new
Thanks for posting. Great vid. I've got this coming on company car scheme in March, in Atoll Blue. BIK makes it worthwhile for me. A couple of questions - how quiet is it in the cabin - easy to talk to back seat passengers? And how is it to drive in with roads with lots of potholes? Cheers
Hi Umeet, Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope you've subscribed for more content and to help us grow :) It's quiet in the cabin easy enough to talk, and although I did not drive this car on roads with potholes I have driven my edition 1 and it's not too bad to be honest. My car has 19" low profile tyres with lower suspension so I can only imagine the 40tfsie with 17/18" wheels and standard suspension will be better
What is the fuel consumption like on motorways? I do 200 miles a week with 100 miles of that bring on a motorway and the rest being stop start city driving and a few 50mph roads... WHAT MPG are you getting on motorways?
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If you pay this amount of money for a US car, you have a full option. You pay a lot, and you will keep on paying on these German cars. It is a joke! I had to take a A3 40 TFSI E bay force. O yes, The grinding back brakes are for free :-)
Thanks for commenting Nick, hope you've subscribed for more weekly A3 content. Yep this car as set to display in litres. However I'm dubious myself over the stat as a lot of variables could affect it.
Thanks for watching Paul, and appreciate the feedback. Which areas did you feel were lacking? So I can add them into the pinned comment. (You'll see I added in some updates there).
Or you buy a golf GTE and engine optimize it and you get at least 290 horses. or a Passat with many different features. such as the trailer assistant assistant who follows the lines assistant who keeps the distance to the car in front. and it is also available with panoramic ceilings. You can also chip trim it. but tuned cars should have 98 octane
*Disclaimer: We have now sold this car due to the ongoing issues with our original and replacement car along with the horrendous customer service.* We strongly advise you view the final a3 video first before deciding to order - it could save you a lot of grief:
th-cam.com/video/cyew5BwGCjA/w-d-xo.html
***The 40tfsie does 0-60 in 7.6 and the 45tfsie does it in 6.8.*** thanks to Salvors125 for pointing this out.
***It is also worth checking if this car becomes a cheaper option through a company car scheme (if in the UK) due to the benefit in kind tax reduction.***
The 40tfsie is only 8.7 from 0-60.
Nice review! I've got this car in December with 18" alloys, and with the comfort and sound pack. I got it on a lease which was about £100 more a month than the 35 TFSI. I think I can save about £30/£40 a month in fuel and a lot more in London Congestion Charge but have still been very surprised by how few miles you get out of the electric motor. The range starts at about 30miles, all of a sudden you've driven 2 miles and the range has gone down by 5. It seems quite affected by things like whether you've got the heated seats on, air con etc.
One thing I do really like though is how quick it is, the 0-60 is quicker than a 35 TFSI but the 0-30/0-40 I found to be much much quicker as the battery adds a lot of responsiveness in power.
Great video- agreed with a lot of it
Thanks Aarun for the kind words, hope you've subscribed to help us grow.
You're absolutely right the acceleration feels fun and that probably came across in my voice :)
Also happy to hear you went for the comfort and sound upgrade, this I think is too often overlooked and you get so much with it.
The owner too described the fluctuating range. I was parked up during the review and it went up lol.
Thinking of the exact same spec. Can you update in regards to EV mode miles. Its damn cold here but would be good to know.
@@milpatel83 thanks for watching bud, hope you've subscribed for future content and to help us grow :)
This car was not mine and was borrowed from a fellow subscriber, I will reach out to them and ask their views.
I do know that the range was fluctuating up and down depending on the temperature. In the time I drove it went up by 1 mile
I see this comment is a few months old now, would you mind sharing your average mileage on a full charge with electric drive only?
@@pa_alia I haven’t done this often but would say 25 miles. Not very impressive given the time to charge. I drive around central London and I can’t say I particularly try to drive efficiently so maybe you’d get more. My MPG on hybrid mode is about 40 (this is the mode I normally drive). I don’t regret getting the hybrid model I think it’s extra power makes for a much more fun drive, and if you can charge at home overnight it would be great
Most of these cars are going to end up as company fleet cars or private lease contract.
We at work are being pushed to full electric vehicles or the very least a petrol hybrid due to the tax cut incentives and the company wanting to look green. I've just ordered the A3 tsfi e. I live on a street and cannot always park right outside my house. So I'm a little apprehensive how I'm going charge it at times because the company isn't installing chargers at work yet, maybe in the future they will. I know it has a petrol engine too but that's not the point of these vehicles to continually run them on petrol. the range is a little on the poor side, like you say the tech is quite there yet.
But I'm looking forward to receiving it sometime in the summer.
Great review.
Totally agree with your points, I hope they figure out charging in the next decade or so.
I also think the moment the tax from petrol and diesel start to die down, magically all of the incentives will dissapear for electric cars and the cost might even start going up.
@@CRD90 I said that about the tax incentives too, someone higher up in the work place mentioned future road pricing. So rather than paying tax we may have to have devices in the car that track where we go and when, and you get a bill and it's deducted from your account accordingly. Simular to how your phone works.
Informative review but I personally feel you were approaching the review with a negative view beforehand as you kept referring to your Edition 1. This car is aimed more towards company car users and the £7k increase is saved (and more) just by pure savings in BiK tax. Also yes we get it, it doesn’t come with heated seats as standard but the Comfort and Sound Package which includes heated seats and Bang & Olufsen is only £1.2k … check how much a company like BMW charge for B&O alone.
Finally the 18 inch alloys I agree don’t look as nice as nice as 19 or 20 would do, but this is again due to the savings in BiK tax. The car is marketed for a completely different audience than you think.
I’ll check out a few more of your reviews as you provide sound content, just a few words of advice from me.
Thanks bro, completely valid points and one of my very first reviews.
Hope you enjoy the rest of the channel, you may be interested we just sold our second A3 after a handful of issues 👍🏽
On my A3 e-tron i enjoy 8 Yr full factory warranty on all High-Voltage components! including the HV parts in the drive-train. Don't worry about it. All my commute's are within 70% of the max. battery range! And yes, I was prepared to pay for EV-commute and having a car that can drive us to other destinations on petrol.
Thanks for commenting and watching bud. Always helps to have real owner experiences.
I personally preferred the e-tron over this newer version. I had one for a few days back in 2015 (extended test drive and loved it!)
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The Hybrid versions of Audi and VW has a vacuum gastank which is why there's a button to open the gastank as this one will even out the vacuum så you can open that cap ;)
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That is really handy to know and explains it - it did puzzle me - thanks for the insight 👍🏽
great vid and summary
Hey bro I’m stuck between the etfsi 45 (2023) competition and bmw 330e (2023) as a company car both £130pm which one would u recommend
330e bud, will be in a total different class in terms of build quality etc and will feel like more of a premium car.
Seeing how good the acceleration is on the 40 do you think this would be a better car to drive compared to the 1.5 Tfsi acceleration?
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I think the thing with acceleration is in reality you won't be using it from a standstill all the time so the novelty wears off very quickly. On this particular model I would recommend the 1.5tfsi and an edition 1 spec as you'll get much more bang for your buck.
I very rarely feel the 1.5tfsi is slow, and I drive a 400hp Toyota Supra
im driving a audi a3 etron 2015 and looking a bit into the new one or other hybrids but maybe i like my old 2015s interior and exterior better? this one seems a little cheaper in materials etc.
Agreed, also the software is buggy better to stick with the older model as Audi have figured out the bugs there.
I bought mine in December and probably had the first on on the road in the Uk after waiting 12 weeks. Absolutely love it, lots of toys great spec and I am still learning all the time.....it is even self charging.
I have only got 33 miles to a charge so far so I am hoping when the warm weather comes it will get up to the 38 miles claimed
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What are your thoughts on the new s-line competition trim?
What sort of mileage are you getting now on a full charge? Are you driving city or motorway?
@@pa_alia with the warmer weather I have had the charge up to 37. It also depends how far down you let i
It is normally ev around the town and hybrid for journeys over 40 miles.I am getting 60 miles to the gAllon
@@ianbrown29 Thank you Ian, I appreciate the real world feedback!
e-charge flap on the side panel instead of on the nose ? = a really good idea! This winter I had to clean and wipe and clean snow and frozen stuff of, and still I could not fit the charge-connector due to frozen stuff in (and behind) the o-so-stylish and much to delicate (multiple tiny hinges) Audi flap. I would trade my front cover (MY2017) for the side cover in the blink of an eye.
Thanks Jaap, never thought of it like that!
Actually makes a bit more sense although I still think cosmetically it looks better on the front.
But I always love hearing real life owner stories 👍🏽
Thanks for sharing 😊
The Audi A4 Mild Hybrid is probably a complete waste of money. reduces fuel consumption by only about three deciliters per mile at best. and does it not have a real boost effect on any electric motor?
Gained a good promotion at work and this car is on my new company car list, ordered it in Narvara blue and black leather and leather ish interior, with the comfort pack, and larger alloys. First time with a German built car. Work is really pushing EV and hybrid cars. Due to the bik tax. So I will pay a little less and I know that will change the government will want money back when tax receipts drop on petrol and diesel in the future. But for now I'm going to give it a go and any bills are paid for via work with future issues like battery life
I am really look forward to getting it now. Going to try and embrace the future (ish) via work paying for it and maybe in another 3 years the battery technology will have made a leap again.
Hopefully bud, I hope the tech advances in the next decade or so in time for when they discontinue conventional engines.
I think my next car (next 3 years or so time) will be a hybrid too. They are continuously increasing taxes on petrol and diesel cars so it's becoming harder to justify.
P.s I love that colour! Wish I had picked that
@@CRD90 solid state batteries look to be the future of ev cars but it's still in its infancy technology wise.
What is the fuel consumption like on motorways?
I do 200 miles a week with 100 miles of that bring on a motorway and the rest being stop start city driving and a few 50mph roads... WHAT MPG are you getting on motorways?
@@taylorthrall7321 it was only delivered 4 days ago. So just getting used to it. 19 months to get it delivered!!!!!
You sure the this doesn't have sline sport suspension regardless of being hybrid I thought all Sline had sport suspension
Got the 45 tfsi e competition being delivered in a couple weeks. Glacier white and could only find one sat in stock in the UK. Can't wait!
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@@CRD90 yeah, I'm bloody impatient and was getting told nov/Dec maybe even 2022 for factory
Car delivered yesterday, better than I imagined. Now to keep hold of my licence!
@@centrino9227 lol it is quick isn't it? 😉
@@CRD90 torque steers like mad, I'll be "that guy" for the next few weeks/months. If I can manage to do a video I will when possible
Did the engine kick in? Sounded like you were only in Electric mode ?
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The driving portion was done in ev mode, I switched to this earlier in the video using the settings switch.
The way the ending kicks in and out though is very similar to the automatic start stop feature found on petrol cars like my 35tfsi.
Hope that helps.
Auzzam
I would say that these hybrids will be better and great around the 4th generation. The car I drive is a 1st gen hybrid (330e, great car) and at first I got about 20-24miles of battery only driving now after 3years I am lucky to get 13 miles after a full charge and the battery after a drive around town will be nearly half dead.
I don’t think these cars are the future until they make massive improvements to the battery life and the size and weight. Also the electric motors need to be improved I see the electric motors getting larger and the petrol engines getting smaller.
I would not bother with these, I was tempted to get this same one (decided against it, went for the petrol) as when the battery dies or ‘empty’ the 1.4 engine has to not only pull the car but also a dead battery and electric motor and you as well.
Anyway great review
Hi Chaka,
Thanks again for watching and commenting 💯 agree with your comments. My cousin owned a 330e and it was lovely.
But really good that you can share your experiences a few years on, that is quite the battery degradation.
Which spec have you ordered? / Purchased?
@@CRD90 yeah I went for the 35 TFSI EDITION 1 with the comfort &sound pack but I went for the hatch over the saloon.. No reason as I liked the look of both but it was a flip of a coin decision as I was boring everyone with my talk of which to go for
@@chakawhyte5753 lol that's a great choice, don't worry you'll love it - what colour did you go for in the end?
@@CRD90 mythos black
I have the Mk1 version of the A3 Sportback E-tron (2018 "mild" facelift), which is basically the same as the Tfsi e but with a smaller battery (8.8kwh vs 14.kwh, 29 miles vs 41 miles) . I've read that Audi (and VAG) is very conservative in their quotes for battery degradation. When I bought mine used end-Feb 2020, I was getting 20 miles range. This went up to 23-24 miles in the summer (milder weather is easier on battery life) and is back to 20 miles currently (Jan 2021). This covers my 18 mile round-commute, with occassional dabs of heating/AC or heated seat use. I'm confident that the battery will last-it's the complex drivetrain, with dual clutch gearbox, motor and dual mass flywheel that I'm more concerned about failing in the long-term. It's by far the most luxurious, quiet and comfortable car I've had, I'm just having to consider whether to extend the warranty in a few months, or set some money aside for any issues that might arise in the 7-10 years I plan to keep the car. I would say that if I had had around £35-40k to spend at the time, I probably would have got an EV, but the A3 Etron less than 2 years old was more than half the price and fully laden with every option bar e-cockpit and the Bose sound system (I have the Audi sound system option and it sounds pretty good to me!)
hello , how much kmts is when the charge is complete¿? , in mine is 48 kms only , never 61 that marc on the caracteriticas of this model , is it normal?
Hey bud, it can vary depending on a few things such as the weather how cold it is as the range decreases.
I only had this for a short while so was unable to test the full charge range unfortunately
if you buy a regular petrol car in Sweden, you have to pay extremely much tax the first three years, type ten times more in tax than if you buy a hybrid car or electric car or a car that can run on biogas or natural gas. the tax is based on how many grams of carbon dioxide a car emits
Good info, thx! Do you know if the electric runs out do you still have 200hp on petrol alone?
Hey man, buying this car is not worth it outside of germany.
Here you get a 6750€ discount for every electric or hybrid vehicle, 2250€ from the car producer and 4500€ from the gouvernment. That is the only reason why i ordered one.
But outside of germany it isnt worth it at all.
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You're absolutely right, if there was a decent incentive like in Germany that's much better as it becomes only a little bit more than a petrol sline version.
Your discount alone would pretty much cover the £7k gap. I think the UK government is pretty behind on this at the moment I absolutely believe government and dealers need to work together to drive down the cost of hybrids it they really want everyone to buy them.
Out of interest were you able to freely spec the car in Germany? Or is it pre-bundled like the UK?
@@CRD90
Yeah so basically you pay about the same and you get 204 hp, so much more performance. So thats a great deal.
Maybe UK will do something similar in the future.
Yeah, actually we can configurate the car however we want to with all options and extras.
I just tried to configurate my a3 40 tfsi e on the audi uk site. There is actually a lot missing. No massage seats, no memory function for your electric seats. No ambient lighting plus, just the normal ambient lighting. Maybe I just missed it , but from what I have seen, germans have much more to choose from.
I didnt know you guys over there have to choose from pre-bundles. Imagine paying so much money and not being able to spec your car how you want to. Pretty messed up in my opinion.
Is it the same with other brands like BMW and Mercedes?
Sry if I misunderstood or misspelled anything, my english is far from perfect 😁
Greetings from Düsseldorf Germany ✌️
@@nemanjamalesevic5459 no worries bud, your English is perfectly fine!
Yeah most dealers offer bundles. It's so strange. I think over here the ambient lighting pack is just called that without the plus.
But it's strange, I would have loved some of the euro spec on my car e.g the different alloys, blacked out badges but maybe it works out cheaper for Audi UK to only have bundles created and sent from Germany because it's offshore.
And maybe mainland Europe have access to wider variety because it's cheaper to transport the cars?
Here in Sweden you get 3800 € from the government when you buy the 45 TFSIe, Its not much but better than nothing.
@@WinkelHoof thanks for watching and commenting :)
That's true, and there is now actually an s-line competition trim available which is even more expensive. you've subscribed
Great video! Personally I don’t think I would spend so much on a electric ⚡️ car right now. One they are so expensive and I don’t think I would spend that much money on petrol over 3 years.
Yeah exactly my point, I just don't feel the longevity of a hybrid/electric car is up there right now to justify the extra money.
I just feel they've made even more cutbacks on an sline model that is ironically more expensive than a petrol sline yet has less
@@CRD90 plus too much hassle waiting for car to charge and planning long journies based on charge points
@@atiq982982 This is a hybrid, so you don’t have to plan charges into long journeys.
@@AdamCalow But if you do short trips the electric battery will go very quickly and then you will never be able to recharge while in motion. So yeah, you have to charge it quite often, in general.
@@AdamCalow i was talking in general, i thought hybrids are getting phased out just like petrol and diesels?
Electronic suspension working only with 17” radius?
Am I right in thinking that the new a3 saloon has a mild hybrid non plugin model?
Hey Ramanan, yep you are right...
But this isn't a proper hybrid battery, instead it just let's the car switch off when coasting and the battery keeps the electronics running in the car. Where as normally when a car turns on and off you would lose the radio etc, with the mild hybrid battery it keeps the electronics on even when the car temporarily switches off
@@CRD90 ahhh I see. Thanks for clarifying. Do you think it actually makes any real world difference to the mpg then, would be great if it can do close to 60mpg!
@@ramananraj4891 it probably makes some difference I guess, but is also the source for some of the electrical gremlins and warning lights...
The best mpg I've got is 52mpg on a motorway which is easy to obtain
@@CRD90 thanks again for the reply. Apparently the new a4 facelift is due in 2022? Will be interesting to see what that's like.
These cars are mostly suited to company car drivers, the tax is ridiculously cheap, otherwise unless you drive around town centres mostly...I don't see any reason to buy one. Just for info, the Merc A class equivalent gets around 34 miles from a charge on a mix of A road and Motorway which I thought was impressive.
Thanks for watching PazAudi - you're absolutely right as a company car it works out great due to BIK.
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@@CRD90 I have subscribed, good luck with the channel.
@@BM_PAZ thanks bud - appreciate the support
It is well higher above the ground than ordinary petrol-powered A3 so that no curbs or anything else will hit under the battery. if something hits under the battery, it can be a disaster in the worst case, such as a violent fire
I can order this or the vorsprung as a company car, vorsprung works out nearly 400pm in tax vs 40 e with every option fitted 126pm tax. Not sure which route to go down, any advice???
Hey buddy, thanks for watching and hope you've subscribed for upcoming content.
We've actually just realised a really good video on the comfort and sound pack which is a must if you go down the electric route rather than vorsprung.
I think with a company car, it's probably better going for the electric version fully specd out because you won't have the car over a super long time and it will always be the leasing companies responsibility to fix it should anything go wrong.
It's also worth looking at the new s-line competition trim for the 45tfsie which is a much better looking version and the one I would go for (black styling pack, better alloys)
This car makes much more sense as a salary sacrifice car compared to the s3 because bik tax is so much lower, I pay £290 a month for this car with everything included, bargain if I do say so.
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Absolutely agree as a company car it's great as like you said the bik brings the price down 👍🏽
Great video, would love to see an S3 on the channel. I’m considering one for my upgrade soon.
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Me thinks that could be my car 🤣
@@coops111s indeed, I cannot wait!
@@CRD90 @Steve Cooper me too, looking forward to it
Does any one know the pn for the 15kwh battery and if its possible to fit it to the previous models?? I'm guessing it's the same size. One thing I hate about my previous model a3 etron is the battery life its absolutely sucks
The 0-100 ? Have you tested It?
Hi Salvors,
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Unfortunately I was unable to test on this car as I was reviewing a real owners car so did not want to perform any standstill tests out of respect.
It is quoted at 6.8 seconds according to the Audi website though
@@CRD90 7.6 the 40 tfsie anche 6.8 the 45 tfsi e
@@salvors125 thanks bro I must have got it the wrong way round.
It definitely feels a lot quicker acceleration than the 35 TFSI.
Are you looking to get one?
I have one on order as my company car, selected 17 inch wheels to get 6% bik and sound and comfort pack, delivery expected end of March 🤞👍
Nice one, I think as a company car these work out pretty good value rather than buying the car direct from the dealer.
When is your build week out of interest? It seems like the factory currently have a delay due to missing "chips"
@@CRD90 it's through a lease company, only have end of March at the moment with a caveat that this is estimated 😀
@@380maxa hopefully it will be there on time, did you add any optional extras?
@@CRD90 I wasn't able to, only choice was standard sline, with or without the sound and comfort pack and 18inch or 17inch wheels, think it was to do with lease company not having wltp figures for vehicles with options fitted, either way looking forward to its arrival 👍
Unfortunately it is not possible to add additional options to your chosen vehicle.
The Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure (WLTP) is replacing the NEDC test procedure for establishing the official CO2 emissions of new cars.
Vehicles delivered after 6th April 2020 must be tested with any optional equipment fitted to provide an accurate CO2 emissions figure. Unfortunately manufacturers have not yet provided us with this information and so this car must be quoted "as standard".
Good review 👌🏽 However, l think you were being overly critical on this car. Yes, some improvements could be made but it’s far better than the majority of phev cars out there.
I bought one and tbh l don’t regret it. A lot of reaction videos are biased and subjective, similar to movie reviews. In future, l would advise to be more neutral.
With that in mind, l would advise anyone to test it out because it is an efficient car when CHARGED properly.
Peace brother 👍🏽
Thanks bud, appreciate the feedback and definitely something I'll try to work on 👍
Glad you're enjoying the 8y, one of the main things I missed out of this review was the company car incentives and how the tax helps.
What is the fuel consumption like on motorways?
I do 200 miles a week with 100 miles of that bring on a motorway and the rest being stop start city driving and a few 50mph roads... WHAT MPG are you getting on motorways?
Thanks for showing the standard suspension; the vast majority of videos and photos of A3’s seem to be S-Line with sports springs/dampers. It does ride rather high :-( Did it feel much different when you were driving, compared to yours?
I agree with you about the added complexity and cost compared to the likely savings. Perhaps this is a car for those with short commutes, to maximise the use of electric only during the week whilst having the range of the petrol engine for longer journeys?
Thanks for watching bud, yeah the ride felt smoother but it was probably a combo of the 18" alloys as well as the suspension.
To be honest in grey and at that ride height it looked similar to a Mercedes-Benz GLA which you'll probably see it now if you pause it.
Be warned it can never been unseen!
Yeah I feel this is for more shorter journeys, but then again I still do not feel it justifies the price increase. My brother owns a phev and has a proper charging point installed.
He's given up with charging as it became a hassle.
I personally feel it will take society time to adapt to plugging in our cars overnight and it will only work for those who have suitable houses/driveways.
@@CRD90 Thanks for the info about the suspension. And interesting to hear about your brother. I was toying with the idea of getting a Hyundai Ionic for some time before settling on the A3 so I spent a fair amount of time looking into the pros and cons of hybrids. Aside from the particular circumstance of a short commute together with a driveway/garage for charging most people probably get more bang for their buck with a so called self-charging hybrid rather than a plug-in. I’ve happily settled for the mild hybrid as a small stepping stone towards electrification :-)
@@AdamCalow absolutely I think the mhev is a step in the right direction. Have you got yours yet?
One thing I've noticed when I have the heating on full blast is that it tends to go quiet and to a lower fan speed when I lift of the accelerator which can get a bit annoying.
@@CRD90 I don’t get mine for a month or two yet. I’m surprised to hear about the reduced fan speed: I thought the whole point of the 42V battery was that all the electrical systems could continue running as normal with the engine off?
@@AdamCalow yeah the virtual cockpit and mmi are seamless as in they do not reboot or anything like that.
I wonder if any of the other subscribers can comment on the heater issue. I wonder if that is the way it is supposed to work or if mine is just buggy!
Would also be interesting to know if non mhev models heating works in a similar way.
another cool honest video and very informative, cheers
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You have to reckon with the cost of gasoline. an average person in driving about 15,000 km per year. Calculate the cost of gas for It. + tax + repair costs. and financial bonuses that you can get in several different countries. in Sweden you can get up to 6000 euros NOTE the car must be brand new
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Or buy a used diesel hybrid. the battery should not be the problem they should only drop about 2.3% per year
Thanks for posting. Great vid. I've got this coming on company car scheme in March, in Atoll Blue. BIK makes it worthwhile for me. A couple of questions - how quiet is it in the cabin - easy to talk to back seat passengers? And how is it to drive in with roads with lots of potholes? Cheers
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It's quiet in the cabin easy enough to talk, and although I did not drive this car on roads with potholes I have driven my edition 1 and it's not too bad to be honest. My car has 19" low profile tyres with lower suspension so I can only imagine the 40tfsie with 17/18" wheels and standard suspension will be better
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What is the fuel consumption like on motorways?
I do 200 miles a week with 100 miles of that bring on a motorway and the rest being stop start city driving and a few 50mph roads... WHAT MPG are you getting on motorways?
Isn’t it 1.5 l/100 km?
good review man. Thank you
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If you pay this amount of money for a US car, you have a full option.
You pay a lot, and you will keep on paying on these German cars. It is a joke!
I had to take a A3 40 TFSI E bay force. O yes, The grinding back brakes are for free :-)
it says 8,1l/100km, is that right?
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Yep this car as set to display in litres. However I'm dubious myself over the stat as a lot of variables could affect it.
@@CRD90 i thought it was 1.4l/100km
Disappointed with review - doesn’t seem to know enough about the car to be useful.
Thanks for watching Paul, and appreciate the feedback.
Which areas did you feel were lacking? So I can add them into the pinned comment. (You'll see I added in some updates there).
what u mean enough? its a free video on youtube, i think the review is perfect and shows the most 👍
You are right to be disappointed with those creases in the new leather seats. They look awful.
in Sweden, there is completely fossil-free diesel
Or you buy a golf GTE and engine optimize it and you get at least 290 horses. or a Passat with many different features. such as the trailer assistant assistant who follows the lines assistant who keeps the distance to the car in front. and it is also available with panoramic ceilings. You can also chip trim it. but tuned cars should have 98 octane
Audis are probably nice cars…if you want to spend 60+ grand. If you’re ‘only’ going to spend 40, you’ll probably get overpriced tat.
You know that it is called vegan leather because real leather is Taboo 😀