Your nailed it with your remark on how smooth Craig's "transition" to an everyman is. This movie was released during the peak of his tenure as Bond, and even his physical appearance here is remarkably Bond-like. Yet you never mistake him for Bond, not even for a second. This is clearly a completely different character, one far more vulnerable. How many other Bond actors could pull that off?
I highly recommend watching Road To Perdition. Daniel Craig is great in it, and it's directed by Sam Mendes. It also has a beautiful score by Thomas Newman.
@@michaelsinger4638 His last role on camera. He was the tow truck in Cars. As for RTP, I think Mendes made it too heavy handed, too melancholy, with the "evils of capitalism" message. I think the film should have been directed by Walter Hill or John Milius. Still, I love the photography by Conrad Hall. He was a god among DPs.
@@ricardocantoral7672 Correction: Paul Newman played _Doc Hudson_ (the blue car who became Lightning's [reluctant] mentor) in Cars, not Mater the tow truck (he's played by Larry the Cable Guy). For additional fun fact: Pixar dug out some audio footage of Paul playing Doc Hudson in the first film that went unused for it, and then used those footages to craft his posthumous "appearance" in Cars 3's flashbacks.
Allegedly, David Fincher, Craig and Rooney Mara signed contracts that if part 2+3 of the trilogy were made, they would have to be in the films and with massive salary increases. However, the studio wanted to cut the budget [$90 million] rather than increase it. The way around this was to jump to the fourth book so they could get around the contractual obligations and change everyone! The joys of accountancy!
I always wondered after the success and magic bullet team of the above why they never did parts 2 and 3 (as the Swedish original films had). Sony must be nuts not to have a David Fincher directed franchise, most studios would kill for that.
@@davidjames579 Studio greed was the big factor. Sony thought it should have earned more money but they didn't help themselves by releasing it at xmas against two films-Sherlock Holmes 2 and Mission Impossible 4 that grossed more as they were PG-13 [ironically the original Swedish Dragon tattoo cast-Noomi R. in Holmes, Michael N. in MI-are in those films!]. It made 2.5 times its budget on an 18 certificate and won awards but that wasn't enough apparently [what little we know about the sequel efforts other than they were going to be filmed back to back is Fincher saying part 2 would be 'very different from the book' so maybe Sony was trying to make it more 'commercial' -and didn't want to commit to two films-before abandoning it]. Fincher must have insisted Gone Girl came out in October [a more suitable time] and it ended up being far more profitable.
@@jamesatkinsonja Yeah, it always puzzled me why Sony felt that releasing a dark violent R rated movie at Christmas time was a good idea. Typically, lighter fare tends to do more business at the Box Office in my humble experience. That said, despite having not read the novel on which the movie is based or having seen the original Swedish language version, I quite enjoyed seeing Daniel Craig in a different role. It is a pity that the other two books never got adapted into English language movies.
@@jamesatkinsonja Actually I heard the Xmas Release was Fincher's idea as he wanted it to be a Counter Release to Holiday Fare, and thought there was a market for that. Plus Larsson fans taking it as a Xmas Present.
@@davidjames579 Interesting and contry to my expectations....I think a release slightly earlier [October/November] probably would have made more money but good for him for sticking to his guns.
I think his best non-Bond film is Knives Out. It displayed a side of Craig we didn't see before: sprightly, funny and mischievous. Stoked for the sequels.
Allegedly Eva Green was on the long list for Lisbeth, but then were half of Hollywood leading ladies according to the tabloids so how true that was is debatable. However a name that was on the shortlist [the final 4] was a certain Lea Seydoux...
Eva is a great actress, but honestly she seems a bit too old to play Lisbeth. The character in the books is described as being in her early 20s, whereas I think Eva was in her early 30s by the time the film was in production. Plus I’m partial to Rooney Mara because I think she played a fantastic Lisbeth.
I saw the Swedish trilogy back in 2009/10 and found this a well made English language version, but lacking in comparison. Noomi Rapace was amazing and her Hollywood breakthrough after this film series was deserved.
I find it amusing that Noomi Rapace [Sherlock Holmes: Games of Shadows] and Michael Nyqvist [MI: Ghost Protocol] were in the two films which were released in competition with the US adaption!
The original books are in the same area as The Man with the Golden Gun, where the author died before he was able to finish editing them, and boy does it show. David Fincher's commentary goes into detail about how hard they tried to work the final comeuppance against Wennerstrom more naturally into the story, before being forced to concede it was a "five act" story. I also like to think the early scenes with Lisbeth wouldn't have felt so disconnected if Larsson had been able to do more work on it.
Thanks for showing this some love, and good for you for appreciating Fincher. I blame this movie for my now finding Enya's "Orinoco Flow" actually rather creepy.
Thanks Calvin, another enjoyable review. I'd recommend watching the extended Swedish versions as I'd say it's better than the US version, and Michael Nqvist and Noomi Rapace are superb. I'd also recommend reading the 3 Stieg Larsson books too (not so much the ones that have been written since his death), although even then The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest has an oddly rushed feeling ending.
00:20 Calvin!! it was ok, it was fine, it did what it could do, it had a writers strike, adam and joe had their fun mocking it, the creators made a MUCH better film after wards right?!! just remember what disaster came out 6 years before..........................TREASURE PLANET of course :) and Die Another Day was SOOOOOO AMAZING right!!! Its great to be back and you keep it up man :)
My favorite bit of Daniel Craig acting in this movie is when he sees the cat. It was refreshing to see the man-of-steel façade break and the human underneath emerge.
Highly recommend that you check out the Noomi Rapace movies Calvin, Fincher's movie is certainly better from a cinematography standpoint, but, for me personally, the original movies feel very grounded in their Swedish origins and that flavour is hard to emulate, despite the undoubtedly bigger budget that the Fincher film had. Loved Rooney's Lisbeth, but Noomi's take on the character is my favourite and the same goes for Michael Nyqvist (who made a great villain in Mission Impossible and John Wick). The Claire Foy movie was enjoyable too and actually felt like more of a spy thriller, but it's undoubtedly the weakest movie of the five. Oh and props for admitting to enjoying Alien 3 on camera, it's a movie I've long defended in spite of its many naysayers!
Considering how popular the book was, it's pretty funny that I didn't for the longest time realise that The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was in fact...the same film/book under its original name, since it was translated from the original title into my language. The original Swedish name is Men Who Hate Women.
I can only echo what every other subscriber here has mentioned Calvin, great review as well. Plus, being a writer, I was pleased that this was adapted by Steven Zaillian, a remarkable screenwriter and director. He won an Oscar for Schindler's List, has adapted a string of other films from novels and articles, including American Gangster, Awakenings, Moneyball, Gangs Of New York, The Irishman, The Night Of (a series that he also directed), so I knew the film was in good hands from the announcement that he was adapting (I recommend watching them all, by the way). There's some fascinating audio interviews with Zaillian online if you search, he breaks down the process of making the film really well. The script is also available online too, if you're into reading scripts whilst watching along.
This film just gets better with age. It's fascinating that in the opening credits we see glimpses of scenes and actors cast not seen for the planned, but ultimately unfilmed two follow up sequels. We were robbed of this what might have been Fincher trilogy never to be. This alternate universe has the completed set in their box set collection.
I think it would be interesting for you to watch the Swedish films, most of us saw the Swedish ones first, and then this one. The Swedish ones are quite different, but equally good (if not better actually). Perhaps though if you see the films the other way round, then it gives a different impression.
I only just recently watched this film for the first time myself and it was a masterpiece imo. I’m a huge bond fan but my association with bond for Daniel didn’t survive past the 20 minute mark it felt like. After that I was just intrigued, frightened, on the edge of my seat!
If you find Kubrick cold, you HAVE to watch Paths of Glory; one of the best movies ever made and there's a TON of emotional depth. Kirk Douglas's best performance too imo
Go back and read the Millennium trilogy books Calvin, which are awesome. Then watch the Swedish films (which was apparently a TV series first and then re-edited into 3 separate films, meaning the TV series is longer). Noomi Rapace as Lizbeth is indelible and Michael Nyquist (since deceased) was a believably forthright Bloomkvist. I thought it was a real missed opportunity for the US major studios to not make the other two films. The first one simply didn’t make enough $ for that to happen, even if Craig and Mara and Fincher all did a great job (though their switch up on the ending of the central mystery was somewhat truncated, I felt). Lizbeth’s disappointment at the end, I thought, was quite moving. But read the rest of the story. She has a lot of fascinating ups and downs still to come.
I felt like it took so long for Craig to be remembered in a series of films other than Bond…Knives Out for that matter. Now he’s finished with Bond hopefully they just keep investing that extremely well done mystery series. Now he can have a bigger role in that having more time!
Just as a sidebar, if anyone hasn't seen the actually quite excellent Baz Luhrmann movie Elvis (in cinemas now), it features a lot of shots of The International Hotel in Las Vegas that stood in as the exterior of the Whyte House in Diamonds Are Forever. Although a CGI recreation in Elvis, the quality is good enough to convince and also allows for plenty of swooshing gliding shots around it.
I was always intrigued by the silver dusk jacket of the book but till today I wasn't aware of plot. Seems very heavy !!!! Thanks for reviewing this. Beyond his Bond performances, I enjoyed Craig's supporting role in Munich. In it you have a real life Mossad operation /espionage plot unfolding. Like another commenter mentioned Defiance had a lot of heart too.
REALLY wanted to see a follow up to this. The Swedish originals are great, and certainly well worth a watch, but I never understood why Fincher's version was criticised the way it was. I love it. Superb performances, including Craig, and Mara was spellbinding. Check out the sountrack album too - a whole three discs of Reznor/Ross goodness.
I guess because unlike many foreign language remakes the original had been widely seen by western audiences and it only came 2 years after the originals.
Nice review Calvin! It's interesting that you love this film while not being too keen on the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy one that was released more or less around the same time, since they're very much two peas in a pod as far as I'm concerned, style-wise and in the very cold, unflashy manner the intrigue unfolds. I can't say that I'm a Fincher-fan in general, he is obviously a great filmmaker and I can completely understand why people love his films but it's not really my cup of tea. Gone Girl is easily the one that I've appreciated the most from him, because it looked less "Finchery" and more like a colgate commercial gone wrong, but that's just me :)
This is generally regarded as one of Fincher's lesser films. Having seen the Swedish version beforehand, watching this was like a second viewing of the original as they are very alike and on the 'second' viewing I was able to navigate the convoluted plot better. The main difference is Lisbeth Salander in the Swedish version she is clearly someone who is psychologically damaged whereas Rooney Mara plays her with more vulnerability and in the so-so Girl in the Spiders Web Salander comes across as a bit anti-social.
The books are fantastic! Steig Larsson is a great writer and yes they are all very long and will take a fair bit of time to read but very worthwhile. The Swedish films are also quite good but difficult for people who don’t speak Swedish even with subtitles
Yeah, although considering how it underperformed significantly at the American Box Office it does not surprise me that Sony Pictures chose to skip ahead to and adapt the continuation novel The Girl In The Spider's Web instead.
It's a great film and I'm glad you mentioned the extensive special features on the blu ray. They're all fascinating and I wish we had something as insightful as this with Craig's last few Bond films.
@@jamesatkinsonja That's so true. My 4K of MI: Fallout came with several hours of special features while the latest film proudly states it comes with "30 minutes!". Thankfully, we do still get some films like Oppenheimer, Dune and a few others that try to offer more than a few press interviews
I haven’t seen this, but I might check it out sometime. I have started to grow an affinity for David Fincher since watching Zodiac. I also saw Mank, Fight Club and Se7en, which I thought were fine, but I do think Zodiac is the best out of all that I’ve watched. As to what is Craig’s finest non-Bond film? I’d probably go for Knives Out or Road To Perdition. I also liked Layer Cake.
I love this movie and the original. I have the blu-ray extended edition collection of the Swedish trilogy. Overall I think I may like the original one more because compared to the extended edition’s runtime, the American version’s story feels rushed. But I like the cast of the American version more. Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara are great! Either way, both are incredible films.
I read the book in like 3 days and it was very fresh in my memory when I saw this movie. The book has even more surprises and mystery. The movie necessarily had to exposit a few things quickly that the book took hundreds of pages to unravel. Overall I thought the movie was a great adaptation. And who doesn’t love the Bond-like titles sequence? I was never that interested in picking up the other books because while I liked the Salander character, the thing that really made the first book a page turner for me was the missing girl mystery.
I think the original is better but mainly its a which one you see first is best. I think the Swedish one laid the mystery story beats in a more dynamic way. Noomi Rapace is miles ahead of Rooni despite Mara looking how Lisbeth is described in the book to the slightest detail. Noomi just has way more range as an actor and despite how tough she acts and how unfriendly she is to people. There is a subtle vulnerable aspect to her performance that wasnt there in Mara s performance. It was still a good job. Hers was more one note for most of it. Fincher 's directing and the cinemetography is outstanding as well as the Moody, and Haunting score from Trent Reznor..The swedish one looks very ordinary and not as atmospheric, the other two lack even the little bits of scope and style the original did though. They feel very TV movie in comparison. Which I think they were..Craig is good as Mikael and i love the scene where he has a bowl of food and yells "CAT!"
lol when I saw this with my mate I remember her saying something like "that new Bond intro is bleak" lol It's a shame the studios didn't continue with Fincher, Craig and Rooney Mara but at least we got this film. Rooney Mara was robbed of an Oscar.
@@sgtfrozty I recall Jackson saying he felt burnt out after the Hobbit trilogy and needed a rest, hence why he's done some documentaries instead and opted out of directing the long gestating 'Mortal Engines' [which was a box office disaster].
Fun is fun. And fun was the thing most lacking in Craig's Bond films, especially for the characters themselves. They've given me a renewed appreciation for the Moore films, and I already liked them.
@@andrewklang809 Depends on what your after really. I had far more fun enjoying Casino, Skyfall and NTTD than Die Another Day, View to a Kill or Diamonds are Forever... But the fact the series can go from the really OTT Moonraker to the serious For Your Eyes Only is one of it's strengths and the Craig films did have witty lines [Quantum-which is fairly humourless has the 'teachers on sabbatical-and we've just won the lottery' scene where Bond upgrades there hotel].
@@jamesatkinsonja FYEO and Casino Royale still had plenty of levity between the serious plot elements and the big action scenes. Spectre had exactly one scene, and it stood out like a sore thumb. Or a late addition to try to fix the consistently bleak tone. Even then, the closest Bond comes to cracking a joke is complaining about the music pre-sets before silly stuff starts to happen around him. And Quantum had far bigger problems as we all know; the best lines were probably written on the set. I eagerly await the post-Nolan Bond era. It worked exactly once, in Skyfall, which was a well-made film, but one intended to be about as dark as a Bond film should ever get, given that it's based around failure and the inevitable, unstoppable, death of a beloved character. Anton Chigurh showed up and murdered Bond's mom despite all of Bond's attempts to stop him. That hit harder than losing Tracy or Vesper.
God I love this movie, i read the books off of it and then got them for my dad for Christmas one year, and then took ideas from it I put into a screenplay I wrote, so yeah huuuuuuge influence for me, still so mad Fincher didn't get to finish off the trilogy and also sad he he was never a contender to do Bond, but knowing his penchent for 90+ takes a shot who knows what kind of budgets Babs & Mike wouldve had to shell out lmao
Huh. Just watched Octopussy on ITV so seeing Berkhoff again was a surprise. I haven't seen either movie but I've read the books and I've heard they are both relatively faithful adaptations even if each makes minor changes to the plot (mostly by cutting stuff out). The first book was the best though so it's not TOO bad a waste that they never made the other two. The third in particular kind of lacks tension once you realise that the bad guys are out of their element and the heroes aren't in any real danger.
This is a great movie with everyone involved in the production putting in great effort. However, I do have to admit that while I don't have any concrete complaints about it; I just never found the need to watch it again after my first viewing.
Hi, Calvin! I've read all three books: the first book is dense and satisfying, the second book is intricate and pours like lava, and the third book is almost completely forgettable. My understanding is, the publishers had only Stieg Larsson's notes to work from by the time they published his third book post-mortem, and his narrative voice dissipates perceptibly. The best part of the books for me was the feeling I knew Sweden's neighborhoods afterwards. I saw the first Swedish movie and loved Blomquist and Salander. It sounds like people have given up on the Mara-Craig-Fincher trilogy and I see there's a time gap but considering the books also jump a little bit I don't think they've run out of their time. Thanks for reviewing, I've liked all the clips I've seen on TH-cam, I have to watch it!
The rest of the 'Mara' trilogy will never happen as the studio cancelled them in favour of the 'Foy' film 'Girl in the Spider's Webb' as it was much cheaper to make and Fincher moved on to other projects. As 'Webb' didn't do very well. I'll be surprised if we see another film in the series any time soon [it seems like a property more likely to come back as a streaming series].
I love this film :) so much I wish they had made the second film with Daniel and Ronney sadly due to the film having a mixed reviews they chose not too carry on :(
It was actually very well received [86% on Rotten Tomatoes, nominated for 5 Oscars]. 2 sequels were commissioned and the first at least scripted but the studio wanted to cut the budget rather than increase it which is why the resulting film ended up being a soft reboot based on the 4th book [as Fincher ect were contractually obliged to be involved if they did book 2+3].
I’m a big fan of the books and I feel that The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo story is a much more simplistic story compared to it’s sequels where it delves into Lisbeth’s backstory, and I would have loved to see Fincher tackle those stories. I enjoy the Swedish versions, but I much prefer Fincher’s dark, sleek style. Sweden is almost a character in it of itself and add’s so much personality to the film. I love the title sequence as well, it is very Bondian.
From what little Fincher has said about his planned adaption it was going to be 'very different from the books' so it might have been a simpler story for the eventual films.
Badass movie! I showed it to my wife and I was able to introduce her to Bond through this film, hehe. Now she's hooked! Skyfall is her favorite movie now! We also love Knives Out and I understand they're making a sequel to it!😳
If I'm being totally honest when this film was coming out I was under the impression that it was Daniel Craig's next James Bond movie ! Fortunately my brother was able to inform me that that wasn't the case before I decided to go and see it. I was about 11 years old and not very bright ! LOL
If at all possible Calvin I would seek out Our friends in the North from the BBC because Mr Daniel Craig is part of that wonderful case. And in my mind its want got him noticed by EON Productions and Barbara broccoli in particular
My dad's a huge fan of the books and have read them several times, and I've seen both the Swedish originals and this one several times. While I like both, and Noomi Rapace is definitely the definitive Salander, I prefer Fincher's version. Craig and the rest of the cast are splendid, but it's such an artful and atmospheric film. It's sad Fincher never got to finish adapting Larsson's original trilogy of novels. I'd love to see your take on the sequel/soft reboot The Girl in the Spider's Web. The tone is very Bondian, and it shockingly seems to borrow a lot from Spectre without doing those elements any better, unfortunately.
Although I liked this film, I didn't like Craig's normal accent being used for it. He is someone who can do good accents, but he sounded so British for someone called Mikael Blomkvist. Another great Daniel Craig film that I would recommend is Defiance from 2008. Great movie. Based on a true story, as well
The film has a grand total of one genuine Swedish actor in Stellan Skarsgard (who as a consequence is also the only one who pronounces Lisbeth's name properly), and they seem to have just let everyone use their own accent.
I'd rather they used there own accents that dodgy fake ones [I'm a big Rebecca Ferguson fan but I always prefer it when she uses her native Swedish/English accent as she sometimes slips out of it when she does a fake American accent].
You absolutely should watch the original swedish Salander movies (and read the books). The swedish movie highlights different plot points but both versions are excellent
Really remember enjoying this film. I haven’t seen it in aaages! As a smoker though, the one thing I properly remember is that bit at the start where Craig buys a 20 pack of cigarettes, opens them, takes one and BINS THE OTHER 19! Fucked me off in the cinema and fucks me off now. 😂😂
You mike like to cast an eye over 'Logan Lucky' - Craig is a supporting actor, but he develops his 'Southern' accent that comes in handy for Knives Out.
As you’re might possibly going to struggle for content during the next 2+ years. How about rating the respective movies/shows the front running Bond actors have been in. Luther, Night manager, Inception, The Bodyguard, Man from uncle etc. And their performances for Bond?
Layer Cake was one of his first as a lead actor, The Power Of One (1992) was his first film overall as an actor. Layer Cake was the movie that convinced producer Barbra Broccoli to have him tested as the next James Bond.
Did you say Steven Berkoff? As in General Orloff fame? What a cross-decade Bond connection! The Swedish version is equally good. I can't pick a favorite.
Yes, the same Steven Berkoff. Quite a few actors and actresses from the James Bond movies have worked together outside the series in numerous movies. I recall when I first started using the Internet, a fellow fan had started a list of movies outside the series when the various performers had worked together, and it was nearly three pages long!
I was searching for the title of this movie in portuguese to see if it was available in some streaming service here in brazil and I couldn't find anything, until I did some wikipedia research and discover that here it is called "Millenium - The Men Who Didn't Love Women". What the actual fuck?
The original Swedish book-trilogy is called Millenniumtrilogin/The Millennium Trilogy, due to the name of the paper (Millennium) the main character works for. The original title of the first book/first movie is "Män som hatar kvinnor/Men who hate women". So the portuguese title makes a little bit of sense. 😊
I think the cast and crew of this movie would have made for a great Bond film. Craig as Bond, Rooney Mara as the Bond girl, Stellan Skarsgard as the villain, Christopher Plummer as M, Fincher directing and music by Trent Reznor.
@@jonathancampbell5231 My advice is don't watch a review of a movie that came out over a decade ago and then read the comments if you are scared of spoilers. Stellan is the villain, enjoy,
@@saintjimmy456 I know he's the villain but other people might not. The age of the film has nothing to do with it, and Calvin intentionally left out such spoilers for a reason.
@@jonathancampbell5231 My advice remains the same. Don’t watch a movie review for a film you haven’t seen and then read the comments if you are worried about spoilers. Ofc the age matters. I was careful discussing NTTD when that came out, but a film that came out 11 years ago? Come on.
Your nailed it with your remark on how smooth Craig's "transition" to an everyman is. This movie was released during the peak of his tenure as Bond, and even his physical appearance here is remarkably Bond-like. Yet you never mistake him for Bond, not even for a second. This is clearly a completely different character, one far more vulnerable. How many other Bond actors could pull that off?
I highly recommend watching Road To Perdition. Daniel Craig is great in it, and it's directed by Sam Mendes. It also has a beautiful score by Thomas Newman.
Tom Hanks, Paul Newman in his last film role I believe, etc were all great in it as well.
@@michaelsinger4638 His last role on camera. He was the tow truck in Cars.
As for RTP, I think Mendes made it too heavy handed, too melancholy, with the "evils of capitalism" message. I think the film should have been directed by Walter Hill or John Milius. Still, I love the photography by Conrad Hall. He was a god among DPs.
Agreed. Would like to see Calvin review this one.
Fun fact: Road to Perdition is based on a graphic novel by Paradox Press, a division of DC Comics.
@@ricardocantoral7672 Correction: Paul Newman played _Doc Hudson_ (the blue car who became Lightning's [reluctant] mentor) in Cars, not Mater the tow truck (he's played by Larry the Cable Guy).
For additional fun fact: Pixar dug out some audio footage of Paul playing Doc Hudson in the first film that went unused for it, and then used those footages to craft his posthumous "appearance" in Cars 3's flashbacks.
A couple others of my favorite non 007 Craig films include:
-Munich (Spielberg's spy thriller masterpiece)
-Knives Out (Fun twists)
Allegedly, David Fincher, Craig and Rooney Mara signed contracts that if part 2+3 of the trilogy were made, they would have to be in the films and with massive salary increases. However, the studio wanted to cut the budget [$90 million] rather than increase it. The way around this was to jump to the fourth book so they could get around the contractual obligations and change everyone! The joys of accountancy!
I always wondered after the success and magic bullet team of the above why they never did parts 2 and 3 (as the Swedish original films had). Sony must be nuts not to have a David Fincher directed franchise, most studios would kill for that.
@@davidjames579 Studio greed was the big factor. Sony thought it should have earned more money
but they didn't help themselves by releasing it at xmas against two films-Sherlock Holmes 2 and Mission Impossible 4 that grossed more as they were PG-13 [ironically the original Swedish Dragon tattoo cast-Noomi R. in Holmes, Michael N. in MI-are in those films!]. It made 2.5 times its budget on an 18 certificate and won awards but that wasn't enough apparently
[what little we know about the sequel efforts other than they were going to be filmed back to back is Fincher saying part 2 would be 'very different from the book' so maybe Sony was trying to make it more 'commercial' -and didn't want to commit to two films-before abandoning it].
Fincher must have insisted Gone Girl came out in October [a more suitable time] and it ended up being far more profitable.
@@jamesatkinsonja Yeah, it always puzzled me why Sony felt that releasing a dark violent R rated movie at Christmas time was a good idea. Typically, lighter fare tends to do more business at the Box Office in my humble experience. That said, despite having not read the novel on which the movie is based or having seen the original Swedish language version, I quite enjoyed seeing Daniel Craig in a different role. It is a pity that the other two books never got adapted into English language movies.
@@jamesatkinsonja Actually I heard the Xmas Release was Fincher's idea as he wanted it to be a Counter Release to Holiday Fare, and thought there was a market for that. Plus Larsson fans taking it as a Xmas Present.
@@davidjames579 Interesting and contry to my expectations....I think a release slightly earlier [October/November] probably would have made more money but good for him for sticking to his guns.
The one time James Bond was himself, a Bond girl. Lisbeth absolutely dominated the relationship
I think his best non-Bond film is Knives Out. It displayed a side of Craig we didn't see before: sprightly, funny and mischievous. Stoked for the sequels.
Allegedly Eva Green was on the long list for Lisbeth, but then were half of Hollywood leading ladies according to the tabloids so how true that was is debatable. However a name that was on the shortlist [the final 4] was a certain Lea Seydoux...
Rooney Mara REALLY wanted this role. She advocated for it.
@@michaelsinger4638 It helped that she had that small but show-stealing role for David Fincher in The Social Network.
Eva is a great actress, but honestly she seems a bit too old to play Lisbeth. The character in the books is described as being in her early 20s, whereas I think Eva was in her early 30s by the time the film was in production.
Plus I’m partial to Rooney Mara because I think she played a fantastic Lisbeth.
I saw the Swedish trilogy back in 2009/10 and found this a well made English language version, but lacking in comparison. Noomi Rapace was amazing and her Hollywood breakthrough after this film series was deserved.
I find it amusing that Noomi Rapace [Sherlock Holmes: Games of Shadows] and Michael Nyqvist [MI: Ghost Protocol] were in the two films which were released in competition with the US adaption!
Behind the scenes for Fincher films got me so fascinated in the filmmaking process.
I'd like to see you review Defiance next. It's a highly underrated Daniel Craig film that I immensely enjoyed
The original books are in the same area as The Man with the Golden Gun, where the author died before he was able to finish editing them, and boy does it show. David Fincher's commentary goes into detail about how hard they tried to work the final comeuppance against Wennerstrom more naturally into the story, before being forced to concede it was a "five act" story. I also like to think the early scenes with Lisbeth wouldn't have felt so disconnected if Larsson had been able to do more work on it.
Thanks for showing this some love, and good for you for appreciating Fincher. I blame this movie for my now finding Enya's "Orinoco Flow" actually rather creepy.
Thanks Calvin, another enjoyable review. I'd recommend watching the extended Swedish versions as I'd say it's better than the US version, and Michael Nqvist and Noomi Rapace are superb. I'd also recommend reading the 3 Stieg Larsson books too (not so much the ones that have been written since his death), although even then The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest has an oddly rushed feeling ending.
I watched this only a few months ago and it really blew my mind. Exquisite mystery, brilliant acting. And I -LOVE- that Immigrant Song intro.
00:20 Calvin!!
it was ok, it was fine, it did what it could do, it had a writers strike, adam and joe had their fun mocking it, the creators made a MUCH better film after wards right?!!
just remember what disaster came out 6 years before..........................TREASURE PLANET of course :) and Die Another Day was SOOOOOO AMAZING right!!!
Its great to be back and you keep it up man :)
My favorite bit of Daniel Craig acting in this movie is when he sees the cat. It was refreshing to see the man-of-steel façade break and the human underneath emerge.
Highly recommend that you check out the Noomi Rapace movies Calvin, Fincher's movie is certainly better from a cinematography standpoint, but, for me personally, the original movies feel very grounded in their Swedish origins and that flavour is hard to emulate, despite the undoubtedly bigger budget that the Fincher film had. Loved Rooney's Lisbeth, but Noomi's take on the character is my favourite and the same goes for Michael Nyqvist (who made a great villain in Mission Impossible and John Wick). The Claire Foy movie was enjoyable too and actually felt like more of a spy thriller, but it's undoubtedly the weakest movie of the five. Oh and props for admitting to enjoying Alien 3 on camera, it's a movie I've long defended in spite of its many naysayers!
Any plans to review Defiance? He was terrific in that movie
Considering how popular the book was, it's pretty funny that I didn't for the longest time realise that The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was in fact...the same film/book under its original name, since it was translated from the original title into my language.
The original Swedish name is Men Who Hate Women.
This is a great film. I wish David Fincher had gotten to make the trilogy that he wanted.
And a breakout performance by Rooney Mara as well of course.
I definitely wish Fincher got a chance to finish his trilogy as well.
May I recommend the name of the rose with Sean Connery and Michael Londsdale ?
I can only echo what every other subscriber here has mentioned Calvin, great review as well. Plus, being a writer, I was pleased that this was adapted by Steven Zaillian, a remarkable screenwriter and director. He won an Oscar for Schindler's List, has adapted a string of other films from novels and articles, including American Gangster, Awakenings, Moneyball, Gangs Of New York, The Irishman, The Night Of (a series that he also directed), so I knew the film was in good hands from the announcement that he was adapting (I recommend watching them all, by the way). There's some fascinating audio interviews with Zaillian online if you search, he breaks down the process of making the film really well. The script is also available online too, if you're into reading scripts whilst watching along.
This film just gets better with age. It's fascinating that in the opening credits we see glimpses of scenes and actors cast not seen for the planned, but ultimately unfilmed two follow up sequels. We were robbed of this what might have been Fincher trilogy never to be. This alternate universe has the completed set in their box set collection.
I think it would be interesting for you to watch the Swedish films, most of us saw the Swedish ones first, and then this one. The Swedish ones are quite different, but equally good (if not better actually). Perhaps though if you see the films the other way round, then it gives a different impression.
I only just recently watched this film for the first time myself and it was a masterpiece imo. I’m a huge bond fan but my association with bond for Daniel didn’t survive past the 20 minute mark it felt like. After that I was just intrigued, frightened, on the edge of my seat!
If you find Kubrick cold, you HAVE to watch Paths of Glory; one of the best movies ever made and there's a TON of emotional depth. Kirk Douglas's best performance too imo
Go back and read the Millennium trilogy books Calvin, which are awesome. Then watch the Swedish films (which was apparently a TV series first and then re-edited into 3 separate films, meaning the TV series is longer). Noomi Rapace as Lizbeth is indelible and Michael Nyquist (since deceased) was a believably forthright Bloomkvist. I thought it was a real missed opportunity for the US major studios to not make the other two films. The first one simply didn’t make enough $ for that to happen, even if Craig and Mara and Fincher all did a great job (though their switch up on the ending of the central mystery was somewhat truncated, I felt). Lizbeth’s disappointment at the end, I thought, was quite moving. But read the rest of the story. She has a lot of fascinating ups and downs still to come.
I felt like it took so long for Craig to be remembered in a series of films other than Bond…Knives Out for that matter. Now he’s finished with Bond hopefully they just keep investing that extremely well done mystery series. Now he can have a bigger role in that having more time!
Just as a sidebar, if anyone hasn't seen the actually quite excellent Baz Luhrmann movie Elvis (in cinemas now), it features a lot of shots of The International Hotel in Las Vegas that stood in as the exterior of the Whyte House in Diamonds Are Forever. Although a CGI recreation in Elvis, the quality is good enough to convince and also allows for plenty of swooshing gliding shots around it.
I was always intrigued by the silver dusk jacket of the book but till today I wasn't aware of plot. Seems very heavy !!!! Thanks for reviewing this. Beyond his Bond performances, I enjoyed Craig's supporting role in Munich. In it you have a real life Mossad operation /espionage plot unfolding. Like another commenter mentioned Defiance had a lot of heart too.
REALLY wanted to see a follow up to this. The Swedish originals are great, and certainly well worth a watch, but I never understood why Fincher's version was criticised the way it was. I love it. Superb performances, including Craig, and Mara was spellbinding. Check out the sountrack album too - a whole three discs of Reznor/Ross goodness.
I guess because unlike many foreign language remakes the original had been widely seen by western audiences and it only came 2 years after the originals.
Nice review Calvin! It's interesting that you love this film while not being too keen on the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy one that was released more or less around the same time, since they're very much two peas in a pod as far as I'm concerned, style-wise and in the very cold, unflashy manner the intrigue unfolds. I can't say that I'm a Fincher-fan in general, he is obviously a great filmmaker and I can completely understand why people love his films but it's not really my cup of tea. Gone Girl is easily the one that I've appreciated the most from him, because it looked less "Finchery" and more like a colgate commercial gone wrong, but that's just me :)
I would highly recommend Enter the Dragon starring Bruce Lee. It has a lot of the same beats as a Bond film and even includes a Bond-esq villain.
This is generally regarded as one of Fincher's lesser films. Having seen the Swedish version beforehand, watching this was like a second viewing of the original as they are very alike and on the 'second' viewing I was able to navigate the convoluted plot better. The main difference is Lisbeth Salander in the Swedish version she is clearly someone who is psychologically damaged whereas Rooney Mara plays her with more vulnerability and in the so-so Girl in the Spiders Web Salander comes across as a bit anti-social.
I perfer the Daniel Craig verison of this film
The books are fantastic! Steig Larsson is a great writer and yes they are all very long and will take a fair bit of time to read but very worthwhile. The Swedish films are also quite good but difficult for people who don’t speak Swedish even with subtitles
It’s a crime that they didn’t turn this movie into a franchise trilogy
Yeah, although considering how it underperformed significantly at the American Box Office it does not surprise me that Sony Pictures chose to skip ahead to and adapt the continuation novel The Girl In The Spider's Web instead.
One of my fav films ever. The three novels are fantastic as well.
It's a great film and I'm glad you mentioned the extensive special features on the blu ray. They're all fascinating and I wish we had something as insightful as this with Craig's last few Bond films.
It's a shame that the general decline in home media means that the extras have dried up.
@@jamesatkinsonja That's so true. My 4K of MI: Fallout came with several hours of special features while the latest film proudly states it comes with "30 minutes!". Thankfully, we do still get some films like Oppenheimer, Dune and a few others that try to offer more than a few press interviews
I'm delighted you have such a high opinion of this outstanding film. I've seen it twice, in quick succession and think it's time I watched it again.
I haven’t seen this, but I might check it out sometime. I have started to grow an affinity for David Fincher since watching Zodiac. I also saw Mank, Fight Club and Se7en, which I thought were fine, but I do think Zodiac is the best out of all that I’ve watched.
As to what is Craig’s finest non-Bond film? I’d probably go for Knives Out or Road To Perdition. I also liked Layer Cake.
I love this movie and the original. I have the blu-ray extended edition collection of the Swedish trilogy. Overall I think I may like the original one more because compared to the extended edition’s runtime, the American version’s story feels rushed. But I like the cast of the American version more. Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara are great! Either way, both are incredible films.
I always felt “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo” would have been a killer Bond title…. Sounds so Fleming in a way
The final original Raymond Benson novel was called 'The Man with the Red Tattoo'!
I read the book in like 3 days and it was very fresh in my memory when I saw this movie. The book has even more surprises and mystery. The movie necessarily had to exposit a few things quickly that the book took hundreds of pages to unravel. Overall I thought the movie was a great adaptation. And who doesn’t love the Bond-like titles sequence?
I was never that interested in picking up the other books because while I liked the Salander character, the thing that really made the first book a page turner for me was the missing girl mystery.
The novel is brilliant and I thought this was a solid adaptation. The Swedish films are also great and worth checking out.
I think the original is better but mainly its a which one you see first is best. I think the Swedish one laid the mystery story beats in a more dynamic way. Noomi Rapace is miles ahead of Rooni despite Mara looking how Lisbeth is described in the book to the slightest detail. Noomi just has way more range as an actor and despite how tough she acts and how unfriendly she is to people. There is a subtle vulnerable aspect to her performance that wasnt there in Mara s performance. It was still a good job. Hers was more one note for most of it. Fincher 's directing and the cinemetography is outstanding as well as the Moody, and Haunting score from Trent Reznor..The swedish one looks very ordinary and not as atmospheric, the other two lack even the little bits of scope and style the original did though. They feel very TV movie in comparison. Which I think they were..Craig is good as Mikael and i love the scene where he has a bowl of food and yells "CAT!"
lol when I saw this with my mate I remember her saying something like "that new Bond intro is bleak" lol
It's a shame the studios didn't continue with Fincher, Craig and Rooney Mara but at least we got this film.
Rooney Mara was robbed of an Oscar.
Tintin needs way more love
Agreed. I really hope they get around to making more films.
What the hell is Peter Jackson doing nowadays?
Those Hobbit movies wasted so many years of Tintin's momentum...
@@sgtfrozty I recall Jackson saying he felt burnt out after the Hobbit trilogy and needed a rest, hence why he's done some documentaries instead and opted out of directing the long gestating 'Mortal Engines' [which was a box office disaster].
Prefer him in Logan Lucky and Knives Out. I like when he's clearly having a lot of fun in a role
Fun is fun. And fun was the thing most lacking in Craig's Bond films, especially for the characters themselves. They've given me a renewed appreciation for the Moore films, and I already liked them.
@@andrewklang809 Depends on what your after really. I had far more fun enjoying Casino, Skyfall and NTTD than Die Another Day, View to a Kill or Diamonds are Forever... But the fact the series can go from the really OTT Moonraker to the serious For Your Eyes Only is one of it's strengths and the Craig films did have witty lines [Quantum-which is fairly humourless has the 'teachers on sabbatical-and we've just won the lottery' scene where Bond upgrades there hotel].
@@jamesatkinsonja FYEO and Casino Royale still had plenty of levity between the serious plot elements and the big action scenes. Spectre had exactly one scene, and it stood out like a sore thumb. Or a late addition to try to fix the consistently bleak tone. Even then, the closest Bond comes to cracking a joke is complaining about the music pre-sets before silly stuff starts to happen around him. And Quantum had far bigger problems as we all know; the best lines were probably written on the set.
I eagerly await the post-Nolan Bond era. It worked exactly once, in Skyfall, which was a well-made film, but one intended to be about as dark as a Bond film should ever get, given that it's based around failure and the inevitable, unstoppable, death of a beloved character. Anton Chigurh showed up and murdered Bond's mom despite all of Bond's attempts to stop him. That hit harder than losing Tracy or Vesper.
This is truly an amazing Craig film! I’d recommend it even if your not a Bond or Craig fan !
You have to review Entrapment, is the last watchble movie that Sean made
Don't forget Finding Forester (2000), a really well-made dramatic movie starring Sean Connery.
God I love this movie, i read the books off of it and then got them for my dad for Christmas one year, and then took ideas from it I put into a screenplay I wrote, so yeah huuuuuuge influence for me, still so mad Fincher didn't get to finish off the trilogy and also sad he he was never a contender to do Bond, but knowing his penchent for 90+ takes a shot who knows what kind of budgets Babs & Mike wouldve had to shell out lmao
I think after Alien 3 Fincher was very much a 'I do it my way or not at all' director which has paid off well for him.
I recognize Goran Visnjic he appears in this movie as a supporting character. I recognize him from ER. Great actor.
Hey man does the Licence To Kill review have a release date yet? Been waiting on that one like clockwork ⏰
Huh. Just watched Octopussy on ITV so seeing Berkhoff again was a surprise.
I haven't seen either movie but I've read the books and I've heard they are both relatively faithful adaptations even if each makes minor changes to the plot (mostly by cutting stuff out).
The first book was the best though so it's not TOO bad a waste that they never made the other two. The third in particular kind of lacks tension once you realise that the bad guys are out of their element and the heroes aren't in any real danger.
This is a great movie with everyone involved in the production putting in great effort. However, I do have to admit that while I don't have any concrete complaints about it; I just never found the need to watch it again after my first viewing.
Hi, Calvin! I've read all three books: the first book is dense and satisfying, the second book is intricate and pours like lava, and the third book is almost completely forgettable. My understanding is, the publishers had only Stieg Larsson's notes to work from by the time they published his third book post-mortem, and his narrative voice dissipates perceptibly. The best part of the books for me was the feeling I knew Sweden's neighborhoods afterwards. I saw the first Swedish movie and loved Blomquist and Salander. It sounds like people have given up on the Mara-Craig-Fincher trilogy and I see there's a time gap but considering the books also jump a little bit I don't think they've run out of their time. Thanks for reviewing, I've liked all the clips I've seen on TH-cam, I have to watch it!
The rest of the 'Mara' trilogy will never happen as the studio cancelled them in favour of the 'Foy' film 'Girl in the Spider's Webb' as it was much cheaper to make and Fincher moved on to other projects. As 'Webb' didn't do very well. I'll be surprised if we see another film in the series any time soon [it seems like a property more likely to come back as a streaming series].
I enjoyed this movie quite a bit but the original trilogy was just on a different level. Maybe 1 part chemistry and 2 parts pacing
Oh please look at tintin. It's phenomenal
Hey Calvin, any chance of you reviewing John Frankenheimer's Black Sunday ?
I love this film :) so much I wish they had made the second film with Daniel and Ronney sadly due to the film having a mixed reviews they chose not too carry on :(
It was actually very well received [86% on Rotten Tomatoes, nominated for 5 Oscars]. 2 sequels were commissioned and the first at least scripted but the studio wanted to cut the budget rather than increase it which is why the resulting film ended up being a soft reboot based on the 4th book [as Fincher ect were contractually obliged to be involved if they did book 2+3].
I greatly enjoy "Layer Cake"
I’m a big fan of the books and I feel that The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo story is a much more simplistic story compared to it’s sequels where it delves into Lisbeth’s backstory, and I would have loved to see Fincher tackle those stories.
I enjoy the Swedish versions, but I much prefer Fincher’s dark, sleek style. Sweden is almost a character in it of itself and add’s so much personality to the film. I love the title sequence as well, it is very Bondian.
mmmm interesting. which version did you see first??
From what little Fincher has said about his planned adaption it was going to be 'very different from the books' so it might have been a simpler story for the eventual films.
Badass movie! I showed it to my wife and I was able to introduce her to Bond through this film, hehe. Now she's hooked! Skyfall is her favorite movie now! We also love Knives Out and I understand they're making a sequel to it!😳
Two sequels! Part 2 should be out later this year.
@@jamesatkinsonja i can't wait!
Have you done Munich? A bond (Craig) and 2 bond vilains (micheal lonsdale + Mathieu Almaric) + a great movie!
Hey Calvin, ever read the Millennium books? Loved it. The Swedish movies are also very good and I'd like to say even better. 😏
Try Mr Robot as well. Rami Malek was so amazing in that series, his character's arc is similar to Daniel as James Bond's.
Can you please review Licence To Kill
If I'm being totally honest when this film was coming out I was under the impression that it was Daniel Craig's next James Bond movie ! Fortunately my brother was able to inform me that that wasn't the case before I decided to go and see it. I was about 11 years old and not very bright ! LOL
I think Craig's finest non-Bond film is probably _Enduring Love_ with Rhys Ifans.
Agreed, and Rhys Ifans outpoints Craig in the star stakes. (It also has the best music of any recent movie, by Jeremy Sams.)
Or The Mother😆
@@spaceodds1985 By the same director.
If at all possible Calvin I would seek out Our friends in the North from the BBC because Mr Daniel Craig is part of that wonderful case. And in my mind its want got him noticed by EON Productions and Barbara broccoli in particular
It was a shame they couldn't do the other two movies
My favourite non-Bond Craig movie (with Defiance and Knives Out completing the top 3).
Highly recommend checking out the original swedish trilogy.
My dad's a huge fan of the books and have read them several times, and I've seen both the Swedish originals and this one several times. While I like both, and Noomi Rapace is definitely the definitive Salander, I prefer Fincher's version. Craig and the rest of the cast are splendid, but it's such an artful and atmospheric film. It's sad Fincher never got to finish adapting Larsson's original trilogy of novels. I'd love to see your take on the sequel/soft reboot The Girl in the Spider's Web. The tone is very Bondian, and it shockingly seems to borrow a lot from Spectre without doing those elements any better, unfortunately.
good film but cant touch the original.its actually on the Great Movies channel tonight at 9 in the uk.
Although I liked this film, I didn't like Craig's normal accent being used for it. He is someone who can do good accents, but he sounded so British for someone called Mikael Blomkvist.
Another great Daniel Craig film that I would recommend is Defiance from 2008. Great movie. Based on a true story, as well
The film has a grand total of one genuine Swedish actor in Stellan Skarsgard (who as a consequence is also the only one who pronounces Lisbeth's name properly), and they seem to have just let everyone use their own accent.
They speak English though rather than Swedish, so it makes sense to just use their normal voices.
I'd rather they used there own accents that dodgy fake ones [I'm a big Rebecca Ferguson fan but I always prefer it when she uses her native Swedish/English accent as she sometimes slips out of it when she does a fake American accent].
You wanna see Daniel Craig really surprise you should really see Logan Lucky
You absolutely should watch the original swedish Salander movies (and read the books). The swedish movie highlights different plot points but both versions are excellent
I saw the film at the cinema with my parents. Not the wisest idea I ever had.
Can I ask how No Deals, Mr Bond is turning out, Calvin? Just intrested.
Really remember enjoying this film. I haven’t seen it in aaages! As a smoker though, the one thing I properly remember is that bit at the start where Craig buys a 20 pack of cigarettes, opens them, takes one and BINS THE OTHER 19! Fucked me off in the cinema and fucks me off now. 😂😂
Was hoping you would do jaws for Fourth of July
Knives Out and Layer’s Cake are my favorite Craig non-Bond movies
I prefer the Swedish version.
Can we have a review of Daniel Craig in "Archangel" soon?
You should watch the swedish version, its even better. And there are two sequels.
I think his performance in 'Layer Cake' got him the part of Bond?
You mike like to cast an eye over 'Logan Lucky' - Craig is a supporting actor, but he develops his 'Southern' accent that comes in handy for Knives Out.
(Kind of) Enjoyed the review, though I would have enjoyed the in-depth review of Licence to Kill more!
As you’re might possibly going to struggle for content during the next 2+ years. How about rating the respective movies/shows the front running Bond actors have been in. Luther, Night manager, Inception, The Bodyguard, Man from uncle etc. And their performances for Bond?
Wasn't Layer Cake his first movie?
Layer Cake was one of his first as a lead actor, The Power Of One (1992) was his first film overall as an actor. Layer Cake was the movie that convinced producer Barbra Broccoli to have him tested as the next James Bond.
Craig. S. Finest. No bond. Film. The girl with the. Dragon tattoo. Review
Will bond use titles post Fleming bond novels for future movies
No as Eon only has the rights to Fleming's materials. Easier to come up with your own title than pay to use someone else's...
@@jamesatkinsonja thank-you for your time
One of my all time favourites
You’ve gotta watch The Game! Maybe my favourite Fincher film 🧡
I love this one and Knvies out, they're my favorite from DC besides 007 :)
Did you say Steven Berkoff? As in General Orloff fame? What a cross-decade Bond connection! The Swedish version is equally good. I can't pick a favorite.
Yes, the same Steven Berkoff. Quite a few actors and actresses from the James Bond movies have worked together outside the series in numerous movies. I recall when I first started using the Internet, a fellow fan had started a list of movies outside the series when the various performers had worked together, and it was nearly three pages long!
I was searching for the title of this movie in portuguese to see if it was available in some streaming service here in brazil and I couldn't find anything, until I did some wikipedia research and discover that here it is called "Millenium - The Men Who Didn't Love Women".
What the actual fuck?
The original Swedish book-trilogy is called Millenniumtrilogin/The Millennium Trilogy, due to the name of the paper (Millennium) the main character works for. The original title of the first book/first movie is "Män som hatar kvinnor/Men who hate women".
So the portuguese title makes a little bit of sense. 😊
@@mickesmanymovies I didn't know that! So the english name is wrong then? what a twist lol
@@HoroJoga It is common for translated novels to change the title.
I think the cast and crew of this movie would have made for a great Bond film. Craig as Bond, Rooney Mara as the Bond girl, Stellan Skarsgard as the villain, Christopher Plummer as M, Fincher directing and music by Trent Reznor.
Spoilers. Don't say who the villain is
@@jonathancampbell5231 My advice is don't watch a review of a movie that came out over a decade ago and then read the comments if you are scared of spoilers. Stellan is the villain, enjoy,
@@saintjimmy456 I know he's the villain but other people might not. The age of the film has nothing to do with it, and Calvin intentionally left out such spoilers for a reason.
@@jonathancampbell5231 My advice remains the same. Don’t watch a movie review for a film you haven’t seen and then read the comments if you are worried about spoilers. Ofc the age matters. I was careful discussing NTTD when that came out, but a film that came out 11 years ago? Come on.
The Swedish versions are FAR better. Watch those.
Excellent movie but the rape scene was a bit much...
Then again I understand it was an important part of the plot...