The Quantum Factorial is upon us

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  • @GandalfTheWise0002
    @GandalfTheWise0002 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    One thing I truly appreciate about these videos (beyond the interesting mathematics) is the legible consistent handwriting and the organization of spacing, coloring, and symbols. The consistent speech patterns, delivery, and general organization of thoughts are clear as well. It's not very often I cannot follow something.

    • @profmariogutierrez
      @profmariogutierrez ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree! I wasn't sure what it was about this channel that kept brining me back but this is it!

    • @ChaineYTXF
      @ChaineYTXF ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more

  • @philstubblefield
    @philstubblefield ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Michael, thank you for making the "click bait" comment up front! We all know how the TH-cam algorithm works, but it's so refreshing to see a presenter call it out so candidly! 👍

  • @1.4142
    @1.4142 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Quantum makes everything Qooler, even Qalculus

  • @tracyh5751
    @tracyh5751 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The q factorial can be used to define the q binomial [m, n]q, which counts the number of n dimensional subspaces of (Fq)^m (here, q is a power of a prime number and Fq is the field with q elements). :)

  • @Nikolas_Davis
    @Nikolas_Davis ปีที่แล้ว +16

    One easy way to count the inversions is to go through the numbers in the 1st, 2nd,...,nth place, counting how many numbers before them are larger than the number in the current place.
    for example, for 4 2 1 3:
    4 --> 0 larger
    2 --> 1 larger
    1 --> 2 larger
    3 --> 1 larger
    ---------------------
    total: 4 inversions
    This also proves the formula for the max # of inversions, n*(n-1)/2, as follows: you can at max have 1 inverted (larger) element before the 2nd, 2 before the 3rd, ... (n-1) before the n-th, thus in total:
    1+2+...+(n-1) = n*(n-1)/2 inversions.

    • @Happy_Abe
      @Happy_Abe ปีที่แล้ว

      This is great!

    • @TheEternalVortex42
      @TheEternalVortex42 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't this just the definition for # of inversions?

    • @Nikolas_Davis
      @Nikolas_Davis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEternalVortex42
      Yeah, so? It's still a very fast and straightforward way to count the # of inversions. If it ain't broke, don't fix it ;-)
      (of course, if I were to implement this in code, I would never do it this way; it scales as O(n^2), which means it's a terrible algorithm for large sets. But for small sets, and for manual counting, it's far easier than what Michael showed).

    • @megauser8512
      @megauser8512 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bingo!

  • @maaikevreugdemaker9210
    @maaikevreugdemaker9210 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You baited me and you threw it right in my face the first 10 seconds. Love it.

  • @f5673-t1h
    @f5673-t1h ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My guess this is some q-analog stuff.
    There's a "q-analog" to a lot of functions from combinatorics, which are continuous, and the regular ones are the limiting case as q goes to 1.
    It's also related to "quantum" groups, and possibly quantum mechanics.

    • @dominicellis1867
      @dominicellis1867 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait so this might not have an actual application for quantum modeling and quantum cosmology.

    • @Sqaarg
      @Sqaarg ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The limit as q -> 1 is also related to the mysterious 'field with one element':en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_with_one_element

    • @f5673-t1h
      @f5673-t1h ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sqaarg I maintain that it's not mysterious, and it's just mathematicians being too stubborn to acknowledge a field where 0 = 1.

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@f5673-t1h If you are referring to the zero ring, arguing that it should be considered a field: the properties that “the field with one element” should have, don’t really fit with the zero ring.

  • @averagegamer9513
    @averagegamer9513 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To simplify the calculations at 10:53, we can notice that the quantum factorial is also recursive like the “normal” factorial, where [n]!_q = (1-q^n)/(1-q) * [n-1]!_q instead of multiplying everything from scratch.

  • @amidhmi5243
    @amidhmi5243 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You don't need any clickbait for me. I watch your videos every day before I go to sleep without any exceptions.

  • @dr.rahulgupta7573
    @dr.rahulgupta7573 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent presentation 👌 Thanks !

  • @Sqaarg
    @Sqaarg ปีที่แล้ว

    The way I proved this is more of a combinatorial proof, i.e. showing there is an explicit bijection between every permutation and every possible term in the q factorial. When you expand the q-factorial = (1+q+...q^(n-1)) * (1+q+...q^(n-2)) * ... (1+q)(1), you are every time choosing an element q^{k_1} from the first bracket, q^{k_2} from the second bracket, etc., such that 0

  • @Fine_Mouche
    @Fine_Mouche ปีที่แล้ว

    7:30 : it kinda "extend" my concept of ordered operator, ex: the ordered_plus :
    a ⨭ b =
    case 1: |a| + |b| if ab
    case 3: 0 if a=b
    (I want that when the order relation (a

  • @md2perpe
    @md2perpe ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In general, polynomials are quite useful for counting choices.

  • @Andbovi
    @Andbovi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice! On my combinatorics course I've learned a lot of finite and infinite formal power series and what sequences they generate. This is a very interesting topic!

  • @fasihullisan3066
    @fasihullisan3066 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:41coefficient of q^3 is one,but has three inversions.

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is one permutation in S_3 with 3 inversions.

  • @cmilkau
    @cmilkau ปีที่แล้ว

    It is important that to determine inversions by swaps
    (1) Only swap adjacent numbers
    (2) use the least possible number of swaps
    I think (2) is equivalent to
    (2') only swap adjacent numbers that are in-order

  • @eytansuchard8640
    @eytansuchard8640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Michael. Recursive deconstruction and then reconstruction, is a great method to solve problems. The partition function is one good example. In coding, the key for low complexity is not to compute the same entry twice.

  • @simonflavioibanez7715
    @simonflavioibanez7715 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can actually just define the number of permutations of n elements with m inversions using the good ol’ binomial coefficients (or “n choose m”). No limits needed.

  • @SSNewberry
    @SSNewberry ปีที่แล้ว

    Very fine explanation.

  • @ConManAU
    @ConManAU ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both the notation and the 1-q^n/1-q expression look quite similar to things related to integer partitions, which Michael has covered before. Surely that can’t be a coincidence?

  • @cmilkau
    @cmilkau ปีที่แล้ว

    So an inversion of a permutation σ is a pair (i,j) such that iσ(j) ?

  • @TheOneSevenNine
    @TheOneSevenNine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm loving the new clickbait michael penn era

  • @Czeckie
    @Czeckie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pretty cool. Didn't get click-baited tho, I was expecting some q-analog. Please, do q-gamma function next.

  • @raimondomancinelli2654
    @raimondomancinelli2654 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I saw the Bruhat order coming from the q factorial... I was shocked! :D

  • @iconoclasticistherr9965
    @iconoclasticistherr9965 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super cool, Michael! It seems the polynomial records the growth of the number of elements of the symmetric group as word length increases. If you have a group with a canonical set of generators (picture its Cayley graph) what can you say about the generating function of the elements a a given word length?

  • @fable4315
    @fable4315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If it counts the „number of swaps“ then it could also be used to determine the sign in the sum of a determinant, which is exactly the number of swaps counted and positive if it is even and negative if it is odd, right? Or how could we relate this to matrices, I mean a determinant is closely related to permutations and in my first semester linear algebra course we were given the definition with the permutation formular.

  • @quandarkumtanglehairs4743
    @quandarkumtanglehairs4743 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    See, cause I'm thinking, "OK, if permutation inversions, from the perspective of ordinal cardinality, are based on POSITION, then NUMBER OF PLACES matters only ONCE."
    BUT. If permutation inversions are based on NUMBER AND ORIENTATION OF PLACES AWAY FROM NATURAL POSITION, then I can see how we may incline to the inversion-set membership of that permutation...
    ... EXCEPT that the permutation is applied across the set as a whole via atomic iteration over each member's unique orientation to the rest of the Members in the set, effectively canceling position-away if position-away is still in the same original ordinality.
    ... right??

  • @LarkyLuna
    @LarkyLuna ปีที่แล้ว

    q feels like an operator (with 1 being the identity)
    So you're creating a new permutation by operating q°q°...°q onto a previous permutation
    Adding the new number and placing it somewhere with up to n-1 inversions
    Interesting

  • @cmilkau
    @cmilkau ปีที่แล้ว

    So dumb question: why do we write 1 + q + q² + … + q^(n-1) as (1 - qⁿ)/(1 - q) only to "simplify" it back to 1 + q + q² + … + q^(n-1) every time we actually use it?

  • @jkid1134
    @jkid1134 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating

  • @fhffhff
    @fhffhff ปีที่แล้ว

    9^x(ln2,25*4^x-ln1,5*6^x)/(4^x-6^x+9^x)² =0 x=log(2/3)0,5+*->x max=1/(0,5²-0,5+1) =4/3

  • @jacemandt
    @jacemandt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there an advantage to writing the q-factorial using the 'sum of finite geometric series' formula for this discussion? In this explanation, Michael is only using the polynomial expansion anyway, so (for this application, at least) why not just use that as the definition?

    • @Alex_Deam
      @Alex_Deam ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you keep it as a fraction, you can write the numerator as a q-Pochhammer symbol, which is presumably useful in some contexts I guess

  • @Horinius
    @Horinius ปีที่แล้ว

    @10.47 This is what I call "Lost in Defintion" 🤣🤣
    What is the point of writing (1-q)^n/(1-q) and then write (1 + ... + q^n) afterwards? This latter one is the real defintion of n, written on the left part. A total waste of time.

  • @Predaking4ever
    @Predaking4ever ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh boy

  • @quandarkumtanglehairs4743
    @quandarkumtanglehairs4743 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fin badass.
    But, umm.... am I incorrect in observing that, in the [4]q! calculation, there were errors in the number of inversions in the five four-inversion members?
    They had 3-inversion characteristics, not 4-inversion.
    Remember, 312 is a 3-inversion permutation of 123.
    Likewise, 4213 is still a 3-inversion, NOT a 4-inversion...
    ... because 2 is still in it's canonical place. The other three permutations in that set were also erroneous:
    4132, because 3 is in canonical, ordinal place, 2431, because, again, 3 is in canonical, ordinal place, and so on.
    Am I correct? Am I missing anything?
    Even if correct that there is an error in the set, THIS IS A BADASS CONCEPT of permutation predictions and I'M IN LOVE. That is fin sick, dude.

  • @snared_
    @snared_ ปีที่แล้ว

    2:00 You meant to say n-1 times right? There are n-1 additions there: 1+1 is one addition, 1+1+1 is two, etc.

    • @snared_
      @snared_ ปีที่แล้ว

      To clarify: "The addition is happening n-1 times to produce a value of n" is correct. Also, instead, you could just change the subject and say "There are n ONES in the equation", which obviously add up to n. But you made teh subject be additions, of which there are only n-1 there by a trivial counting argument.

  • @quandarkumtanglehairs4743
    @quandarkumtanglehairs4743 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ohhh, it's the NUMBER OF SWAPS in the permutation validating an inversion, not the number of sent-codomain positions.
    OK, got it!
    Hmm.

  • @alexbowie8498
    @alexbowie8498 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What does this mean?

    • @get2113
      @get2113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent presentations. It would be nice if he could better motivate problems.

  • @farhadtowfiq6767
    @farhadtowfiq6767 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any practical significance?

  • @scottmiller2591
    @scottmiller2591 ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me of z-transforms, where you have the lag operator z^{-1} masquerading as a variable in a polynomial. Is there a way to express q as an operator?

  • @tildarusso
    @tildarusso ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder where to use this knowledge.

  • @p.kalyanachakravarty7530
    @p.kalyanachakravarty7530 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MichaelPennMath
    Is there any reason for calling q analogue of the factorial as the Quantum factorial ? I mean does it show up in some way in quantum mechanics ?

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes the q in various q-deformations describes how some operators almost commute, where B A = q A B for some operators A and B.
      That’s kinda quantum-y ?

  • @MatteoMucciconi
    @MatteoMucciconi ปีที่แล้ว

    And the q-gamma function?

  • @JohnVKaravitis
    @JohnVKaravitis ปีที่แล้ว

    Where the hell did all this math come from?

  • @FineFlu
    @FineFlu ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do the coefficients seem to make a parabola?

    • @martincohen8991
      @martincohen8991 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It turns out that these polynomial are what is called "unimodal", which means that they go up and then go down, so have a single mode. Look up this.

  • @seneca983
    @seneca983 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:10 You forgot the subscript q from that [1]. Video ruined.

  • @curtiswfranks
    @curtiswfranks ปีที่แล้ว

    I love q-analogs.

  • @okoyoso
    @okoyoso ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do we know the # of inversions is unique?

    • @Redentor92
      @Redentor92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every permutation has an unique decomposition in cycles.
      (I mean by unique here the number, length and elements involved in the cycles).
      And a cycle of length m has m-1 inversions.
      Therefore, every permutation has an unique number of inversions.
      (Butched proof, I could explain further if you ask nicely).

    • @okoyoso
      @okoyoso 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redentor92 Just took a class on differential geometry. This makes more sense now.

  • @mba4677
    @mba4677 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's so mathematical that he apathetically describes himself doing clickbait. hahahaah

  • @lloydgush
    @lloydgush ปีที่แล้ว

    This is weird... All I can see is L'Hoptal.

  • @arekkrolak6320
    @arekkrolak6320 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, another YT video that explains factorial :)

  • @kostekklo
    @kostekklo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats the use of it? Some examples please

  • @wiseSYW
    @wiseSYW ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that title and thumbnail is worthy of an NFT project :D

  • @Yishay.S
    @Yishay.S ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it is math channel.
    But if you click bait a title that has a meaning at least ask a friend why it is name that way. A few sentences of "not exactly" or "generally..." would be fine.

  • @kinanradaideh5479
    @kinanradaideh5479 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did this channel get so clickbaity i used to love the channel

  • @mjcat5000
    @mjcat5000 ปีที่แล้ว

    You must be one of the Q from the Star Trek Q Continum planet😂

  • @fdjafari
    @fdjafari ปีที่แล้ว

    I wike math

  • @Handelsbilanzdefizit
    @Handelsbilanzdefizit ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Measuring a Quantum-equation (x²-2x-3=0) falls into one of its solutions: |Ψ> = 0.707..| -1> + 0.707..|3>
    🥸

  • @TymexComputing
    @TymexComputing ปีที่แล้ว

    i have watched till the "if you've been sticking that long till now" and i have subsrcribed botgOFmyTH-camacountz :)