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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2023
- The Thrustmaster ESWAP XR PRO CONTROLLER FORZA HORIZON 5 EDITION is a new video game gamepad that features, wait for it, a miniature steering wheel!
Yes, a small-scale steering wheel on a controller, which is said to help those without the space or budget for a full-size steering wheel peripheral gain an extra sense of control.
We tested it with Forza Horizon 5, naturally as its design is officially themed around the Microsoft open-world racer, but also with BeamNG.drive and Need for Speed Unbound. It works for PC, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S and is wired-only.
Also, as its an ESWAP device, you can switch out various components and move the steering wheel into different locations.
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I am confused as how no company has released an updated RC style controller for racing games. I can remember way back when there were multiple types available for different systems (PC, Playstation, NES, etc). I think the pistol type were the best. Hold in left hand, had a trigger for accelerating ang braking. Have a wheel with 180 degrees of motion. As well as multiple buttons that could be programmed. The most intuitive way to play these types of games in a handheld device. I think this would be a gold mine if someone made today. I can continue to dream.
Or if Namco brought back the NeGcon or JoGcon(with forced feedback), I have one on the Playstation called the Performance Ultra Racer in the style of an old paddle controller with the wheel on top, trigger at the bottom, and 2 analog face buttons on top like the NeGcon I think they also made one for N64 that has the same design, it's really ergonomic like the traditional pistol grip rc controller, I believe some modern rc transmitters can be hooked up to PC nowadays through a port on them to play VRCPRO or other driving games with some tinkering
Right? As an RC racer, I loved those old RC like controllers.
Seems like a no brainer for a racing game. Might be tricky to position other buttons, but no impossible.
And the perfect game for a device like this would be trackmania. Both precise and arcady, that requires a controller both comfortable and "sweaty" and can justify most price ranges since the game is made to be played for thousand of hours.
That pretty much monopolizes one hand.
theyve been out for decades now and no company even dared sniff in that direction. but we do have a 1000$ logitech direct drive thats just half as good as simcube XD I dont ever recall choosing a hobby where id need to choose between crap (controllers up to 250usd) crap (sub300$ wheels) and overpriced (everything) :D
This seems ideal for chilled sofa racing games, but £180 is madness. Great video as always John and Wrenn!
It's not just for racing games. It's like a more customizable Elite controller
£180 is madness, Said by someone who probably justifies many £1000's on a wheel that does nothing more than turn a car which can be achieved with under $250.
How good is a Fanatec DD2 at shooter games or flying games, or in fact anything other than the one single application it was designed for.
Its an elite controller with a wheel attachment for the same price or less than the xbox elite controller. Only issue is that its not wireless
We're in 2023, and we're still doing micro USB?!
up
Even the back buttons of this controller have the same design as their first model on ps4 couple years ago
The back buttons aren't comfortable and reachable to press
Many complain about it
Even the size of this controller needs big hands and is not suitable for every one
And still the same design for years
usb is good though, personally i prefer a cable rather than the need to constantly recharge my controller
@@Kazuhira2249 but it should be usb c, not micro, thats the problem
@@joeschmoe5009 they are cheaper than a C
Hard to see value over a steering wheel when this is $180 and my logitech wheel and pedals were on sale for $200. And the logitech wheels are on sale more than they aren't.
Other than people with extremely limited space or maybe a handicap this controller seems entirely useless to the average sim racer.
Because at the end of the day, you're still getting a prolevel controller to play other games with as well. whereas a steering wheel is for a limited number of games because even some racing games are jank with a wheel.
Steering wheel setups are always going to be a far better experience than pads for racing simulator games. It's mainly the limited space I had and sometimes long tuning/setup time that made me grow tired of them. I wish there was an affordable half decent 180 wheel FF and rear pedal triggers on a controller pad so I can get back into it easier.
Some games has a driving component in addition to doing other things which would normally use the keyboard (on the PC) or a regular controller. Switching between the keyboard and a full size wheel setup is quite inconvenient.
Think My Summer Car for example. You want to use a driving setup every now and then but mostly you control the game with the keyboard. A small wheel-like controller would be much more practical.
Public service announcement. The racing module does not only work for the large controller. I ordered the smaller one the E swap S and it is compatible!!!
Thank God the X pro was just a little too big for me plus the E swap S weighs less.
They don’t explicitly say that it works for the smaller controller in the advertising but it does!!! So that’s a big mistake on their part! Happy customer though! As a disabled gamer, this is the closest thing I will get to a steering wheel until one of these manufacturers, put gas and brake paddle shifters. In addition to shifting paddles on one steering wheel . Essentially 4 paddles thus mitigating the use of using feet. Get on it!
For £179 you could buy a good wheel
I completely agree, however if space is an issue this might be a good thing. The swappable idea is really good. But! The price is far too high.
there is a reason why Logitech wheels sells in the hundreds and thousands.
It darn cheaper and the G29 is plenty for any racing games.
I not going back to controller for racing games.
Wheels > expensive Pro shit controller for racing games.
Pistol style RC controller is a much better form factor for driving games than anything you can do with a gamepad. I hacked one together with Lego, some hall sensors and an Arduino that was unreasonably usable. No more flying hands syndrome!
What would be considered "reasonably" usable?
@@117johnpar Somewhat flippant word choice there to highlight the good value return on time invested.
I have one of these, but it's a really old one. It uses a "soundblaster" connector, so is for either windows95 or DOS.
It's red, has the little wheel around the directional pad and controller itself is shaped like the 1st generation PlayStation controllers before they had analog sticks added.
Definitely could see my self having bought this in 2015 when i played forza a bunch for like 80usd but not for that price
Just got mine!!! Such a great coincidence that I'm in the states when this released.
Micro USB is a garbage connection. what is this 2013?
If the wheel module had literally any vector for force feedback rather than a linear spring it would be an instant buy. Technically you do have more granular control over the small steering corrections. But thats it. For actual wheel control this would need to be a free spin connected to a motor that ca be calibrated like a wheel, Which they could do. But this is little more than a gimmick and can be nearly simulated by roll up steering on a thumbstick.
Can Thrustmaster eSwap "with wheel module" for Forza work on eSwap for PS4 version? I had the impression that maybe so, because the dock design is (apparently) the same on both controllers. Do you know if it works?
Imagine paying £180 for a controller still using micro USB
Does the racing wheel module work with the PS4 version of the eswap pro controller?
I can see the racing module working with Train Sim World for with the reverser or regulator on the steam engines.
Limited edition? Does that mean it’s not going to be selling for a while? I hope not because I’m wishing they will drop the price
I would think it's just the forza coloring. They make the wheel module separate for about $30, which will work if you already have a eswap pro
I used to love the NEGCON controller
is it 90° to one side as in 90° left + 90° right or both sides in total as in 45° left + 45° right?
Also I presume it simulates thumbstick, so game detects it as thumbstick?
micro usb in 2023.....for $179.99 but imagine if someone made more dedicated one with very small amount of ffb and gas/brake triggers that behave more like mini versions of big rig setups.
Hi! would this controller work with any racing game? like a bike racing game?
It should do!
this is perfect for people with limited movement in their hands!
5:13 'I've crashed. '
People seem confused. It's not a racing controller. It's a high end Elite style controller that comes with an extra module for racing games and a FH5 deco.
It's got like 180 degrees of rotation, what's the point? Same as using an analog stick...
Not the same at all. Stick points, it does not spin.
Why not set the dpad up top and the wheel on bottom?
You really do miss the second analogue stick, games like Horizon and NFS which heavily rely on movement around the map are badly affected. At least with replacing the D-Pad, you don't lose functionality of the game as you have the buttons on the back. Either way, not ideal! I wish the steering wheel would also move as a whole unit up down left right, seperately from the rotation, but there must be a reason this isn't the case!
@@TraxionGG I didn't think about the map. That's very true. Good point. On XSX I fast travel for everything even if it's like 50ft away lol.
"I wish the steering wheel would also move as a whole unit up down left right, seperately from the rotation, but there must be a reason this isn't the case!"
I would bet it would lack the rigidity that it would constantly move while trying to rotate the wheel.
The software should allow you to set left bumper so that holding it changes functionality of the stick into dpad input and then move clutch to the top left grip button or move shift up and shift down to the top two grip buttons (to emulate paddle shifters) and put clutch on X or B.
@@TraxionGG well a wheel doesn't rotate like that, does it? It just spins. Sliding around doesn't sound like it would be better
Cheers, John, I'd like to know if it is possible to play ACC with this, bless your heart :)
can you buy just the steering wheel module thing?
You can indeed! It's available on their website for around £27 I believe - shop.thrustmaster.com/en_gb/eswap-x-racing-module-forza-horizon-5.html
@@TraxionGGhy the heck does it not work for the Eswap S big oversight I bought a regular X and it’s just a little too big for my hands so I’m getting an S, but it only says the module works for the X big oversight but fantastic idea the Eswap S is the successor and the only complaint I have the original controller is the size and the trigger stops basically do nothing those have both been fixed, but why the heck is the module not compatible with the S? Returning the X and I will probably return the module as well. To be honest I really wanted only a controller with adjustable sticks and trigger stops but being a disabled gamer the module could have been a game changer.
One of these manufacturers has got to come out with a steering wheel that has extra paddle shifters for the gas and brake mitigating the use of pedals for people that cannot use their feet like myself.
@@mattmanley7118 It does work on the S.
@@JeffZ1028 Hi, did you test it yourself? Considering getting one, but unsure if it will work and and how comfortable it would be on S Pro layout.
@@raimondse8386 No but I've seen reviews on TH-cam where people try it on the eswap S. I prefer using the wheel module where the d-pad goes but my brother preferred it in the left thumbstick's place though I've heard that may be uncomfortable for some depending on your hand size.
got a DD and one of these,doesnt replace the DD for a second but obliterates the sticks(imho),top of the wheel is best method :D,no more hours of setting it up too,thats got to be a boon right?:)
oh and to all the neigh sayers,not everyone has the abilty or the desire to go all in,but still want to remain competative.stop with it,its a good 50% off why the "community"(ha!) is so small.
idea is good. but 90degree of lock to lock and a new learning curve.. ill skip also bc its not ps compatible for that price. my g29 is.
yo a 2nd hand wheel would be much better choice for that price
5:14 “I’ve crashed into a 🧑🏿🦱”
No.
How does it fair on an F1 game?
Does the wheel component function work by normal potentiometer or did Thrustmaster actually go with the better optical reader?
i had the original eswap pro x controller and it broke 3 times almost on the exact date every 6 months, so i gave up and returned it... got my money back after 1 1/2 years. i loved the precise sticks but you cannot overclock the polling rate to 1000hz like the sony controllers... soooo it is a pass for me!
$180??? MICRO USB?? what a rip off
This is a ridiculous price. Micro USB. A terrible carrying case/bag, wired, over priced, and gimmicky. Sounds like most Thrustmaster products that aren't wheels.
I wish they created a PS version of this controller
imagine paying top dollar for a micro usb controller lol
200€, wired, micro usb... bruh...
my second hand g29 and ownbuild sim rig + 165 curved monitor also used was cheaper than this controller
If it was 80 I would buy it but 200… nah I skip
While I think it’s a garbage product, the fact that it exists shouldn’t bother people. We all know you can get a wheel for a little more, but this isn’t for you people. It’s obviously designed for people with extremely limited space, to lazy to get off the couch, or have a handicap and can’t use a wheel and pedals.
Or someone that plays a wide variety of games that would appreciate the modularity of this particular controller.
So whats more worth 🤔 for a little more than 250$ US. You can get a brand new g920, used ones are even a bit cheaper. Albeit forcefeedback sucks and drifting especially in horizon 5 feels trash. But for any PC drifter an LUT will fix that on assetto corsa. 50 bucks cheaper and you might have a competitor who knows.
Man it is so goofy
That looks so bas and probaly feels bad
I'd pay max $60.
The same price as a regular controller? 😒
Just buy some thumbstick precision rings for like 10 bucks and it does the same but better
How is that better? People would still tap to turn where as the wheel allows for smooth transitions.
@@JeffZ1028 i dont
I'd give it a go if it was about 100 bucks cheaper, I don't have the space to run a full wheel set up, so this might be an ok compromise but that price is just too much for what it is imho.
I don't think you understand what it is.
@@godmagnus I sure don't at that price.
If they ever make one with hall effect instead of 1950s tech, I would pay like $180 for it.
hall effect sensors suck they go out randomly and too quick
@@chiefreefer0420 I have an X52 that still works perfectly, the stick part with the hall effect sensors anyway. It's almost 20 years old.
big big NO
2023 and gryo for racing games still aren't a thing
It's in GT7
It’s been a thing on GT7 since 2020 dude wtf are you talking about? Lmao
Logitech g29 is better in value for money
wired micro usb so you have to be attatched to a wall outlet to use it lmao
That doesn't look $200 at all. Looks like a bootlegged $20 controller with that ugly ass colors.
yea nope.
you can get the Logitech G29 wheel at heavily discounted prices
and this controller being so expensive and yet not wireless is a big NO NO
try again
This isn’t for people that can spend money on a wheel and have a whole other room dedicated for gaming, this is more for people that have no space for a wheel setup or probably have a handicap and can’t use a wheel.
@@dbzcollector9963 ok but this expensive controller being wired is illegal imo.
@@linchester8464 how? Most wheels aren’t wireless? In fact most wheels require up to 3 wires so what’s your point? Lol the reason for the wire is obvious, it’s to reduce latency when playing online and in a racing game you want as little input lag as possible.
@@dbzcollector9963 lmao wireless technology have come a long way. And fps mouse have been wireless. Like the G502 Lightspeed. Unless you are the like top 1% players who need 0 latency.
No one gonna notice the diff between wire and wireless controllers.
I played both controllers and wheels for racing and nothing is gonna beat the accuracy of a wheel and proper pedals set in racing games.
@@linchester8464 no one’s saying wireless is bad shesh relax kid… I was just saying why it’s wired no reason for you to explain and give your opinions since no one cares but it still doesn’t change the fact that all wheels are wired lol….
So basically it’s a 3rd party controller😂😂
It's not made by Microsoft, so yes, it's third party. Where's the joke?
This doesn’t make any sense…this controller is more expensive than some of their starter wheel kits like the 488 gtb with pedals…$130 on Amazon…this is $180. I’m so glad I abandoned this crap company for real sim racing gear. This is actually a joke
I probably would grab one of those if it had force feedback like this guy had for the PS1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jogcon
Can someone with a disability get a benefit out of this? My hands can use a regular controller but I’ve never used anything close to a wheel. I can not however use a full set up with pedals @TraxionGG
It’s not wireless oh gosh I’ll pass I think to be honest wanted to try it though