Broaching external gears on lathe - planetary gear

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  • PLEASE DO NOT ASK HOW I INDEXED IT!! READ THE INFO BEFORE AND YOU WILL FIND THE LINK TO THE VIDEO!! THANK YOU
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    Hi all,
    I need some planetary gears for my model ...
    I had an old battery-powered drill with this type of reduction, but unfortunately too high (1: 6) and non-standard metric module (0.7), so I decided to turn my lathe to a broaching machine ... I used the gears of my lathe that give me the chance to do almost all possible divisions. Now I can produce my own planetary gears with a 1:4 ratio!
    If you have patience, you will find more videos on my channel of this work ...
    I leave the link anyway:
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  • @thra5herxb12s
    @thra5herxb12s 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The method is so simple, but it's the imagination thats the clever part. This is the work of a clever person and a proper engineer...

  • @JetBen555
    @JetBen555 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    At my shop, we have an antique machine (made like a tank ahah) from the WW2 era that can make pretty much any gear , so it would be a total waste of time for US to use that method... but it's still fascinating to see how people come up with crazy idea to get the job done ahah XD.

  • @JahanZeb1976
    @JahanZeb1976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent work performed. Great project.

  • @trollforge
    @trollforge 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent, you've made my job of obtaining change gears for my antique lathe much easier!!!

  • @aubreyaub
    @aubreyaub 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the sound of straight cut gears...!
    Normally, I find it easier with some steel wool, #1 knitting needles, bottle of sherry, rocking chair on the verandy and knit 'em up, before bedtime.
    Oh, but your method seems nice, too.

  • @ChrisB257
    @ChrisB257 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I too wondered about the indexing. I have used this "broaching" approach for cutting keyways quite often. Nice example of patience - been there and done that! Grinding the cutting tool musty have been more than critical. Most interesting, thanks.

  • @finster101
    @finster101 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing model and really clever technique for making the gears you needed. Could you please make a video of the setup and how you ground your cutter to the correct shape.

  • @trinifishstix
    @trinifishstix 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir, have infinite patience. I have no idea what these gears are meant for but I enjoyed watching this video. Well done.

  • @partsproduction
    @partsproduction 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Normally here in the US that process would be called shaping rather than broaching. You did a great job of grinding the cutter, considerably harder as the size gets smaller. For what you are using the gear for I don't think it matters that it is not a pure involute form.

  • @jamesparmenter6894
    @jamesparmenter6894 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is so awesome dude!!!! Thumbs up on this video dude!! Man I have thrown away so many gadgets because I couldn't replace a gear on them,but after watching this video I'm going out and try to buy me a cheap little lathe and practice on it until I get pretty good at it and then maybe move up to a more expensive one and really get into.Thanks dude.

    • @3melendr
      @3melendr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      James Parmenter May your dreams come true!

  • @vfslav01
    @vfslav01 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew a man who was sharpening details on the lathe and did not include the engine. It was in the forest. You are the second craftsman!

  • @cbeaulac
    @cbeaulac 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hard on the crossfeed, but im impressed, always happy to learn something new for my trade.

  • @jeffolynuk6649
    @jeffolynuk6649 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used a similar method for broaching key seats in blind bores, it's slow but gets the job done. Thanks for the video!!

    • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
      @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jeff, you can find all links reading this video info ;-)

  • @kevlar_87
    @kevlar_87 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work! Quality craftsmanship.

  • @piypeydey
    @piypeydey 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Великолепен клип!
    Окончателно ме убедихте,че независимо в коя област от живота,любовта към нея е в състояние да извърши истински чудеса.
    Щастлив съм,че имах честта да се запозная с професионализма Ви!

  • @tomharrell1954
    @tomharrell1954 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You have the patients of a saint

  • @Texaca
    @Texaca 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thats is a lot of work... wow, thanx for filming and showing us this. Wish I had taken shop in school, but I don't think they offered in the little town of Palestine. Never heard of the term "broaching". Thanks again.

  • @nevilleplant4445
    @nevilleplant4445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the insight. I had only considered milling the profiles. This has been very informative.

  • @viscache1
    @viscache1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool gear! Patience and elbow grease...there MUST be a tool for that! Thanks for recording it, looks like a great project.

  • @wa4aos
    @wa4aos 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have learned a lot watching your informative videos. Wish I had a fraction of your metal working knowledge. THanks

  • @lourias
    @lourias 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is so very cool that you made a gear without super special tooling or a milling machine!

  • @LittleshopofFredrik
    @LittleshopofFredrik 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Noce work! Very inspiring, now i have to go out in my shop and make a dividing-head attachment for my lathe :)

  • @thedreamliner2012
    @thedreamliner2012 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. It takes patients to do that kind of work. I am guilty of it too. When you get to the last couple of teethe and start taking too much each pass to get it over with, and that's when you make mistakes. I am just now recovering from amputating my thumb on a lathe at work. Lost my concentration (a coworker came up and was asking questions) and ZAP! Off came my thumb. Thank God they were able to reattach it and I will get full use eventually. BEWARE!

  • @peterb.6991
    @peterb.6991 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great work, thanks for taking the time to teach

  • @TikiToyLabs
    @TikiToyLabs 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    seriously.... who watches a video like this on TH-cam then "thumbs down" it? really? Very cool.

  • @hagki
    @hagki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work Dude!
    And I love that asmr

  • @sanyasiraosenapathi3164
    @sanyasiraosenapathi3164 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good process of gear cutting / broaching on lathe

  • @jimburnsjr.
    @jimburnsjr. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    awesome.. i would have never thought of that.. thanks

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done, however i would never have the patience myself to broach gears this way unless I was making only one perhaps.. I would go the gear cutter route, and some kind of accurate indexing system. You show that they can be broached and very nicely done.

  • @EvoKeremidarov
    @EvoKeremidarov 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks very good.. I like to see your dividing setup

  • @justincase948
    @justincase948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work 👍👍

  • @tommysmith8801
    @tommysmith8801 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video. Would have been interesting to see how you sharpened your chisel. Gives me an idea on how to make one when I get around to making my own lathe.

  • @MrAirshot
    @MrAirshot 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry man not mean to be negative,and nothing special but long time i want to say that quote .
    respect for the great work u did,
    from a guy that love machining

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also learned from other video ... I am pleased that my videos are helpful to others.
    Thank you!

  • @johnferguson7235
    @johnferguson7235 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Was the initial trouble after first assembly because there is not having enough backlash? It would be nice to know the pitch of the gear and the material being used.
    I have the impression that English is not your first language. Thank you for including the captions so that we can follow along. It is a very interesting process that you have developed. Your video captures a lot of interesting detail. The lighting and the framing is quite good. I will check out the other video, I hope that there is information about how you create the cutter.

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you, I tried not to stress too much light passes by the lathe and using a lot of oil. the lathe fortunately did not damage.
    I do not think of having to do a similar job again ...

  • @billydoll72
    @billydoll72 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! I wish I was that good at turning out parts on my lathe.. I got a mini lathe for Xmas and all I've figured out how to make is screws

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Steffan, a thousand thanks for the comment you left!
    I'm glad that my video will teach you something!

    • @jassim.yasser
      @jassim.yasser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      مرحبا لدي سؤال كيف تقسم عدد اسنان الترس

  • @user-ph2hb6rc8l
    @user-ph2hb6rc8l 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job man perfect work 👍

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am very happy to give you some more ideas! My knowledge is only the fruit of passion!

  • @rldialcompany3334
    @rldialcompany3334 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and great skill.

  • @magna750
    @magna750 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely work!

  • @senna7811
    @senna7811 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Complimenti Claudio! Sembra il pignone degli automodelli TAMIYA..!

  • @chakravarthyc2603
    @chakravarthyc2603 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your effort is appriciable,good work and gear teeth also not bad,before grinding its OK.regards.

  • @NeBoFoRiOn
    @NeBoFoRiOn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great work man good watch

  • @FrankLopezx
    @FrankLopezx 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice i cant wait till i start using my cnc machine i got like 2yrs ago and im yet to start on all my designs

  • @radioguy1620
    @radioguy1620 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wonder how you got the gear shape into the cutting or broaching tool, very good video . thanks for posting.

  • @monkfry
    @monkfry 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great idea if you're in a pinch and don't have a shaper! 👍🏼

  • @albertousman7624
    @albertousman7624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muy, muy bueno su clip, Claudio.
    Agradezco por compartir, su conocimiento.
    Pregunto: cómo preparara el buril??
    De nuevo gracias, y no deje de publicar.
    Atte.
    Alberto, saludo fraterno desde Argentina.

  • @MultiJono86
    @MultiJono86 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool. Just a hint for when youre counter sinking or counter boring on a lathe: slow your rpms down and itll squeal and chatter less. Another tip: use only the tip of the centre drill to spot a hole, the shoulder doesnt do your drill any favours (drills are ground at 118deg incl angle and that looks like a 60deg centre drill (120 deg incl angle), that little difference causes the drill to start funny and its slightly off centre as a result. Great work!

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tip! I'll try to put it into practice

  • @miguelmarquesdeazevedo6245
    @miguelmarquesdeazevedo6245 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Descartando a tecnologia robótica : excelente atuação de torno !!!!!!!!!! gostei muito

  • @AmiltonJr
    @AmiltonJr 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice job!

  • @an_what
    @an_what 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like Butter! Great job yo!

  • @TheWreckingYard
    @TheWreckingYard 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very educational, thanks for posting!

  • @imgouravkr
    @imgouravkr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent job

  • @zurailazis05
    @zurailazis05 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is awesome! i wonder how you make your broaching tool? any videos?

  • @sprescav
    @sprescav 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i'd like to shake your hand man.. such a work!!

  • @chaitanyavedak2412
    @chaitanyavedak2412 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    when you ran it with the Drill, you could have added some emery paste between the gears, that would have smoothed out the contacting surfaces...
    Nice Idea by The way... :D

    • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
      @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      the problem was due more to the machining burrs that the contact surface, the aluminum pieces that I have produced previously having no burrs worked straight away. I preferred to use only oil to avoid creating excessive play. thank you to comment it!

    • @putative3
      @putative3 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Emery paste not good for gear boxes!

    • @chaitanyavedak2412
      @chaitanyavedak2412 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I meant that using Emery Paste only for the Initial Running In.. to remove any burr, and smoothen the contacting surfaces..
      This was the most common method used while matching the Valve contact faces in an Engine Head.. the Emery paste would grind the contacing faces to a near mirror finish, and give a leak free joint..
      In case of the gears, the smoother the contacting faces, the lesser the friction, after applying a little bit of oil while normal running..

    • @monelfunkawitz
      @monelfunkawitz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      putative3 It is when you are trying to open up gear lash and you remove it all when you are done. Lapping tight gears is normal when you aren't making parts for the Space Shuttle. I had a custom gear set I made that I was off a thou and a half overall cause of the tail stock and was too tight. After lapping it was smooth as glass. I flushed the gears really good, and it gets an oil change every year. That was almost 15 years ago and it is still in operation to this day. It has had more than one seal put in it and a shaft or two, but the gears still mesh great and the magnets inside the case stay clean.

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll try to upload a video soon ...
    Meanwhile I can tell you that with the help of autocad I designed several 3D models of the teeth, then interpolating them I found the right profile. due to the small size I could easily approximate the curve in an arc of circle and then with the help of grinder mounted on milling machine I modeled the HSS tool that you see in the videos

  • @yeshwanthreddy4946
    @yeshwanthreddy4946 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers! Thanks a lot for the info and knowledge.

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hi all. Many viewers ask me why I have used this method and not a mill and dividing head ... the topic was treated repeatedly over time. This method has been invented to produce internal gear and later adapted to external gears. I could not use the mill because these pieces are too small to be machined precisely in that way.
    I invite you to watch the video th-cam.com/video/4QLftRlHxj4/w-d-xo.html
    Thank you very much!

    • @thefreak9140
      @thefreak9140 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi there claudio
      i just have one question
      how did you manage to get an accurate distance between each tooth
      how did you divide it accurately on the lath?
      hope i managed to get you to the point

    • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
      @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +mohamed farid I invite you to watch the video th-cam.com/video/lqreWsmXG4k/w-d-xo.html

    • @thefreak9140
      @thefreak9140 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +CLAUDIO GRASSI woooow
      that's awesome 😲

    • @KostyantinKravchenko
      @KostyantinKravchenko 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How you could sharpen cutter for involute profile?

    • @jimmccrae3221
      @jimmccrae3221 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      CLAUDIO GRASSI

  • @jadoncramer6512
    @jadoncramer6512 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this for swing on a model dragline? Also with the size of the gears you are making and the fact that lathes are made to power feed into the part, the little stress you are creating is not any worse than taking a roughing cut. Good job

  • @BuildBreakFix
    @BuildBreakFix 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow very nice work. Gear cutting is a fine art. You pulled off poor mans gear and it functions not many can say they done that!

    • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
      @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank You Rich, that job was just to solve my problem to find particular gears for my model. I hope not to do it again! hahaha
      however, it was a nice adventure and a great satisfaction to have succeeded!

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    is fine, the steps were very light (0.05 mm at a time)
    my lathe works great as always.

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yes, you can find all in my channel!

  • @donaldnaymon3270
    @donaldnaymon3270 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. Thank you for sharing

  • @hirosstorageunit
    @hirosstorageunit 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow love this. I love my lathe best tool ever.

  • @tamosemgrana
    @tamosemgrana 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How is made the tool profile? Oops I forgot to say , Great job ! excellent !

    • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
      @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Arthur Silva Thank yuo, I simply designed shape and then I grinded by a piece of HSS using the grinding wheel mounted on the milling machine

  • @rajkumardhiman8978
    @rajkumardhiman8978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am answering that how to make accurate tool profile. The easiest way is to do the wire cut EDM on your tool. The CNC machines has the software to get accurate gear profile of your need. Good idea to broach a gear on lathe machine but today one has a lots of other fast and accurate methods to make gears.

  • @kountrytiger1999
    @kountrytiger1999 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice work great video thanks for your time

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read the comments on your page, I have nothing else to add!

  • @cwthemachinist
    @cwthemachinist 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super cool man! I love cutting gears and gearing. What are these reductions going to?

  • @BilalKhan-do9il
    @BilalKhan-do9il 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do u rotate the chuck with ur hand ,if so hats off to u!!! Great job

  • @LuizEscultor
    @LuizEscultor 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grande profissional ,dou valor !

  • @olefjellborg1696
    @olefjellborg1696 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Impressive!

  • @TerryD15
    @TerryD15 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Drew,
    It's not milk, it is a mixture of a special soluble oil and water used for cooling and lubricating the workpiece and cutting tool. In the industry I worked in we used to call it 'slurry'. - Never be afraid to ask.

  • @jittychitty
    @jittychitty 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    They say the Lathe is the only machine on Earth that has the ability to reproduce itself. I love my lathe, it's my baby. Don't mess with my baby!

  • @wa4aos
    @wa4aos 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video. Thanks

  • @machiningcoolstuff9124
    @machiningcoolstuff9124 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this!!!!

  • @kennethjanczak4900
    @kennethjanczak4900 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice work, thanks for sharring it :-)

  • @yomearreglo
    @yomearreglo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work Claudio!! I have one question: how do you measure the angle for next tooth on the lathe?

  • @srinivasansanthanam749
    @srinivasansanthanam749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have done gear cutting in hobbing gear shaping gear milling .But this is marvelous.good.

  • @TechBuild
    @TechBuild 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not bad? This is great!

  • @wisconwest
    @wisconwest 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are my hero!

  • @Sketch1994
    @Sketch1994 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You could possibly leave 0,01-0,03 and then run the gears with fine lapping compound to get perfectly set and fine ground gears... Nice

  • @chrisbridges1328
    @chrisbridges1328 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    God that looks mind numbingly tedious. But very useful to know how to do. Thanks for sharing.

  • @raulvictormartinez
    @raulvictormartinez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, very good video !!! Excellent. I consult you, how do you manage to turn the lathe plate with the specific degrees ?. And on the other hand, how do you manage to lock the lathe plate at the time of machining the gear?
    Thanks and greetings from Argentina !!!

    • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
      @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I Raul, see this video... th-cam.com/video/lqreWsmXG4k/w-d-xo.html. I used the gears of my own lathe.

  • @LKDesign
    @LKDesign 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, you got really excited there at 4:20 . XD

  • @chrzaszczykg
    @chrzaszczykg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Podziwiam Pana.
    Szacun.

  • @RyanInSD
    @RyanInSD 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus what a ton of work. Should put pictures up of the model this is for.

    • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
      @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ryanln SD,
      here it is the power train: th-cam.com/video/khb4sTvnPuE/w-d-xo.html
      and here, the finished 1:6 scale model: th-cam.com/video/k-F2ocgLhTk/w-d-xo.html
      Have a look at my channel: th-cam.com/users/BUSTYCLAvideos for more videos! thank you a lot!

  • @andregross7420
    @andregross7420 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats a great idea and all, really a good idea and simple. But don't you think it is a little hard on the took carrier?

  • @Migueldeservantes
    @Migueldeservantes 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would say great job! Now I feel kind of apprehensive to do that to my 1941 Lathe machine! but sweet job!

  • @AlekseyCamodelkin
    @AlekseyCamodelkin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here it is so a turner, Supreme Class

  • @filmproducentje
    @filmproducentje 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is beautiful, you're a genius. How did you get the idea?

  • @renatogusman7469
    @renatogusman7469 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muito bom parabens pelo trabalho

  • @fbalistreri75
    @fbalistreri75 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work. Do you grind your own broach tools?

  • @asyxcv14
    @asyxcv14 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey good work! Very interesting how gears can be produced even on a lathe. Never saw this before. But to me it looks as if you do not work with a lathe very often, or at least never had a professionell instruction. Different cutting speed for other turning diameter, feed rate, so on. Or you just don't care thinking "well it has to work in the end". Sorry. I'm german... i like to do things perfect!
    Although great Job, keep going!

  • @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc
    @CLAUDIOGRASSIASTRArc  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    standard steel, I improved measures, on paper reflects the expectations, hopefully good!

  • @ARIFINLATHE
    @ARIFINLATHE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your idea is good👍💯❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👏