Bright Steel Ring gives the wearer the fastest roll in the game, even if they have the flop roll. So you could wear that, and then wear any amulet you wished to in any armor you wish. It wouldn't matter what your encumbrance is.
@@win3325 reggie sells it. just like other vendors, gotta check when it refreshes and hope its there. you can leave ward and change system time at least 30 mins ahead (i do hour) then go back and it should be refreshed if you wanna speed it up. youll see an ! on the items if the shop refreshed iirc
Messing around with this setup it really seems that the rings, traits, armor, and medic subclass are the bones for invincibility. Having alchemist is fairly overkill since you can swap out empress ring for feastmaster’s and get similar results. The extra health feels superfluous except maybe in cases of boss one-shots. Black cat ring can fix that assuming your build is pivoting towards blasting the boss down. Point being that the sustain from medic and emergency response rings are enough to carry just about anything you want to main. I was zipping around as handler while finishing out level 9 of medic and it was a blast. Also, I think the 50% health cap ring is actually more broken with the right setup since it doesn’t rely as much on trigger response protection so it can avoid one-shots altogether without high HP or even one concoction. There’s more to unearth here but this setup is perfectly viable, if perhaps less than perfect.
I will point out that 100hp does not survive most root earth boss hits on apocalypse, which is why restriction cord was removed! The extra health is only needed if you wanna be tanky and not actually dodge as much! You could 100% take off alchemist and only lose one concoction but you lose out on panacea for the resistance buffs and a skill that gives 25% DR with stagger resist. Lots of great options, but alchemist is nice for right now!
My idea is that having the restriction cord might help you tank one-hit attacks better because with full health you would not get any of the bonuses from rings such as the rusted heirloom ring. I’m not sure if this would work though, I’d have to test it because I had a way weaker tank build before that would simply not survive when playing apoc with a friend on root earth.
Yeah the issue is it is 10% +15% so you get 25% more DR but half the HP so if something would deal 100-120 to you after DR it now kills you instead of bringing you to half health with higher DR. Then you start to regen past the 1 shot range! Restriction cord works on most apocalypse bosses, there are just 1-2 that can be a real issue when running it! Could use it the whole run then swap for 1-2 bosses etc
Nice video man. I have been exploring alternatives for melee and found some good ones. Running twisted idol amulet gives 30 percent armor effectiveness plus reduces encumbrance by 15. For rings I'm running dying ember which you touched on in your last video, but then fae bruiser ring which grants 2 stacks of bulwark when you do melee damage, then guardians ring, which adds another stack of bulwark when an enemy is within 7m, and another stack after receiving melee damage. Final ring is fae warrior ring which increases melee damage by 15 percent. These in combo with the challenger class skill juggernaut gives 3 more stacks of bulwark, 15 percent increased movement and melee speed, AND 50 percent increased melee damage for 25 seconds. I pair it with engineer for extra armor, wearing full Leto set at 65 weight. My total damage reduction is 85.7 percent. Melee damage is plus 17.2 percent but goes up to 67.5 when popping juggernaut. Armor is 308.1. So youre walking around with 7 stacks of bulwark, dealing 2-3k damage per swing without having to risk your health being below 50 percent. Also have dr, armor, and melee damage slotted in my relic. Would love to her your thoughts on this.
also note that its possible to take any other amulet as long as you are willing to sacrifice a ring slot to equip the bright steel ring.. as that ring gives you the fastest dodge no matter how encumbered you are, even if in the red (though keep in mind you still have all the extra stamina cost). That ring is basically a free access to full leto no matter the build as long as you can spare that one ring slot. coming from someone that uses an engineer/challenger build (id consider handler instead of challenger but i'm afraid even when staying next to you the dog will die too easily) that also focuses on some nasty health regen to abuse that heavy gun :p
I recommend using Sacred Lakewater instead of Sanguine Vapor and Bloodstream 10 instead of Untouchable and some Siphoner levels. You will often be able to get back most or all of your grey health this way so it just adds a ton passive sustain compared to the active nature of the lifesteal options.
Very fun looking build. In your opinion, what is the least valuable ring to the build? I kinda want to squeeze in anastasija ring for the constant haste you get, or Burden of the divine since being able to share half of this insanity with your friends sounds fun.
I'm loving this series of videos. It's just constant theorycrafting between you and the comments coming together to become the tankiest you can. Don't really see this sort of thing with build videos.
Hehe, thanks! I love reading all the comments and constantly improving!! I will likely have a similar series covering dodge builds and dps builds in the future. For now still loving the tank and seeing how OP we can really get together!!!
@@NottheWinnerGaming Absolutely, its how you truly get the top setups. Alot of people upload an OP build and have done with it. Onto the next one. But dont truly unlock potential without hours of playtime + alot of outside input.
I use the Basic Bitch class (Hunter/Gunslinger) for damage, then just Tranquil Heart, Ring of the Forest, Fae Shaman Ring, Ring of the Wolf, Haste Ring (you know the one), Twisted Idol (I use Fae set and want to hit 80%DR and have normal rolls without using other armor and needing to use BSR/Omen rings), Mythic Healing, DR, and Armor fragments. Make sure to grab Fortify, Triage, and Regrowth for traits and it's a decent all around build. Can swap Forest for Divine, then Handler/Medic and take the Swift trait and you're an hp generator and the move speed you give is top-tier.
Great video, just a quick question. When you hover over your advanced character stats and then over total DR, it says that DR is capped at 80%. So isnt everything above that just overkill or am i overseeing something? Like you have baseline 83,7%, will the vial even affect you? Or the ring which gives DR, the lower HP you got?
I have most items for these builds except the Generating Ring. I still want it even if there's tanky builds that don't use it because it'd be great for group healing with the healing allies for 50% of self heals ring
hi guys ! i have 1 question about panacea in coop, does this perk work with things like regen ? For exemple, if tranquil hearth heal me for 2hp, does my allies get the 2hp also ? Thx for reply =D
Yes! So if you each are getting 10hp/s then 10 from each person gets transfered to the others meaning everyone is now at 30hp/s :) You can also stack with burden of the divine for an addition 50% so really 40hp/s :P I would focus on something with high hp like this and just get to 5 hp/s because all together 20hp/s on your team is insane with high HP and you can take a hit!
I currently have more armour, less health. Does this build with the rings etc only work because of the health being high? Or does it balance out the same since my armours so high? Great vids.
I would check out my most recent build video, 15 minutes in is a high hp with maxed DR build, so if you have more armor/dr than that build you are wasting space! There is a cap to how much total DR you can get so the bonus hp does make a huge difference!
What is a good substitute for the Ring of Crisis? I cant get the water event to spawn to save my life. You mentioned Black Cat. Any other good options?
I honestly love ring of crisis, tough to replace! From what I understand it may not be in hatchery though! I thought water room puzzle also, but I got mine in The dark conduit!
Can I swap navigator neck (don't have it) for twisted idol and remove empress seal? Also I've been trying a archon build was cast speed 2 casts kill a boss.
Have you played around mist step dodge? It ignores dodge encumbrance so it does not matter if your weight is at 90+ you're gonna dodge without flopping. You'll also get additional 3% life steal and 20% damage with the Full moon circlet equipped.
I have been planning to do some work around that build in the next few days to a week! Got a few ideas cooking up to try but that is near the top of the list for sure!!!
Excellent! I thought you had the perfect build earlier, now you've got the perfecter build. Can't wait to see the perfectest build. Onwards and upwards. For me, back to the grind, but it is fun. Cheers, Harry. PS Have you tried the Feastmaster's Signet Ring for an extra Concoction?
@@jonathonanderson7995 I'm over that. Once you hit Level 10 you can aquire another Archetype so you get have two archetypes with their Archetype traits. Those get deactivate once you choose another Archetype.
@@Rothinsky ya you have to unselected the archetype you won't use then go back in to traits and you can hpgrade it while on other archetypes it was a pain for me as well. May be a lvl requirement in over 70on such type lvls
Any idea how to deal with data corruption attacks? The red ones Cancer and Venom does. They one shot me bo matter what despite nothing else in the game even tickling me
They should not be able to 1 shot you at this level of hp, but if you stay in the range/circle you take massive dmg per second. Best advice is to dodge it to be 100% honest! If you are struggling with tanking it, check out my misty step build! Still high HP and really nice DR but allows you to dodge in a better way!
Does the ring that keeps you at half health keep the dr up at all times? I feel like if you removed empress and added that. You be in god mode most of the time, outside of some bosses one shots.
Well I actually tried that one with a 130 hp build and the hp just gets to low on apoc for a few situations (unless you just dodge well)! The bonus hp from empress is actually a lot more than it seems!
why shadeskin over barkskin? im thinking about running this as a melee build i would switch out 1 amor pice and run a melee amulet should be tanky still
Yeah works great as melee build because shield breaker is on melee wep so you can get more shields with each hit or with a lifesteal bleed melee setup! I like both but shadeskin can help a bunch in tight spots!
How does this work against Nightweaver? I've been trying to beat it with a different tank build but for some reason its bugs oneshot me if i dont kill them in time. The suck grab in ohase 2 as well, trying to dodge that is so wonky (not the wall grab, i dont go near the walls, lmao)
I know the one you mean, bring a turret or the 1st/2nd summon and it can knock her off of you during the suck grab, but this build should be able to tank that one!
@@NottheWinnerGaming Can confirm, turned out I had all the pieces already, put it together with most of the same traits. First try, not even close to dying. Even got suck grabbed a few times, lol. Thank you for this kickass build :D unrelated question, does corruption or whatever it's called, the red damage, ignore DR? I was helping my friend on veteran the other day fight the flying miniboss in the final area, and it could not scratch me, except it's red attacks
@@NottheWinnerGaming oh! One more question, cuz I couldn't see it mentioned anywhere in the video. What mutators do you put on the weapons? I put the bleed one on my nightfall just for a little extra damage but idk what to put on the enigma
@@Arkale893_0 I use refunder and bandit! Basically one adds ammo to reserves other adds directly to gun! (they get other buffs at lv 10 also) The idea is to run enigma and be able to shoot as long as I need! I also use shieldbreaker on my melee!
There is a way to sacrifice a little bit of damage reduction for more damage. You get the -10 weight from the talent instead of the amulet, switch to the elemental damage amulet (the one from the labyrinth) and either get the +5% dmg ring for every status effect or the +Duration for status effect on rings. The ring that adds damage reduction below 30% hp is almost never active and rather useless tbh. As soon as you drop below 30% you are almost always get the 25% shield at which point your natural HP/s gets you above 30% HP again and you lose the effect. The weapons you'd use for that build is the Krell Ax, the Hellfire and a weapon that can use the Corrosion mod with the Bleed on Weakspot damage mutator. you'll have 4 debuffs running for 20-30 seconds applied in like 2-4 seconds. Each get buffed by the damage perks from medic/alchemist (since it's "all damage") and the AoE is just insane. You can also still use enigma and the acid-hammer/burn sword and switch around which weapon applies what debuff. The ring would provide +20% all damage (+5% damage for each debuff) and the amulet provides insane AoE and burst damage. Alot of your damge is done passively and it's quite funny seeing enemies tick down like crazy with bug chunks of damage from the amulet now and then. You almost lose no HP/DR at all.
@@NottheWinnerGaming Bright Steel Ring :) (Great build btw! Loving your work. I've been trying to create a tanky build like this for a while now and couldn't nail anything down, so thank you for sharing.)
If you are farming items you are likely playing on the 1st 2 difficulties so I would say get leto armor and hope you get some DR stuff in yaesha early :P if not see what you can work with!
@@NottheWinnerGaming yeah I’m still on normal. At the last boss. Have most of the kit but not the class levels yet. So can work on those via adventure mode.
If you are using alchemist and my stuff you should be healing constantly which procs the ability panacea, when i left the game and re entered it was just at 20
You can unrust your amulet and get more hp, go to ne'rud and do the forgotten prisoner quest line, let him eat you while you're wearing the amulet and you'll get 5 more hp.
nice build but what about world bosses and map clear? If it can handle world bosses it would help people their first run through apocalypse the first time around! not stops you from changing build before boss fights if you struggle. nice build!
N'Erud - Hatchery... Find a tile set where the 2 big rooms with the 3 elite spawns (each) are near each other. When you clear those 2 - Die so it sends you back to the start of the dungeon. Rinse! Repeat! That gives about 2k XP per Archtype divided among the ones that need to level. Example: If you have one at 10 - Then the one you are leveling will get the full XP - But if say both are at 5 - They both will split the XP. Its boring as all FUCK! But it gets it done!
@@TheMorrogoth Thx, I think any elite will work, for example the red throne yaesha story line ends up in widows court and that has a very good elite farm area with 5 elites nearby (im not sure if pan warriors are elites or not cause they dont always drop crystals) Ill be on the lookout for areas like that
@@MiquShiro The elites aren't the ones that give the XP you are after - Its the invasion calls (You can get up to 3 - With extra elites!). And the run - If you roll a good tile set... Takes 5 mins per 2k XP. You can fully level an archtype in less than an hour.
@@TheMorrogoth Im farming at my spot atm, and im getting about 3-4k per run killing 5 elites, takes anywhere from 2-4 minutes per run so id say ill stick with my spot (Im on nightmare difficulty with mudtooths elixir no sagestone maxed out scholar)
Since I am always healing I think the 10 is just a visual bug and its actually 20. If you go back into the game now is it showing 10 or 20 (with my exact setup)?
Only 1 dmg number, but the number goes up for each on stacked, so 1st might do 86 per sec then 2nd could be 97 then 106 etc etc. Its not a huge boost but you can see it for sure!
Hey is there ever a variation where we use dead kings memento instead to not lose out on the 10 stamina with the tradeoff of 5 health? Just curious on your thoughts on this. EDIT: This is in place of Seal of the empress
Is untouchable even needed with this build. Considering how tanky it is if you're actively trying to dodge id rather put those points and finish off bark skin and put the remainder in expertise for the skill refresh. Or is there a reason more for that
Yes actually, the window for heavy is just out of where I want for certain "harder" bosses, like in root earth! I need just over 10% to get the dodges I need so 4 points gives me 12% just over enough :) I could just Git Gud but the extra 12% helps a ton in my opinion!
@@NottheWinnerGaming thanks cause I wanna try this. Playing on apocalypse has been rough I can normally dodge through attacks fairly easily but sometimes you just get caught up you know. I'll give it a try both ways see which works but thank you so much. I wanted to use other rings and not just play heavy damage. I enjoyed my bow build but this being able to face tank shit is super nice.
If you wanna run a bow build you can run the one where shield every time you use 75% of clip so constant shield on attack! If you struggle on certain dodges play with the % 21% could be perfect for you or 6% might, depends on how much you need! If you need evade distance consider that with 1-2 points also!
I am always healing in this build and when i left the game and re entered it was showing 20 so im assuming from alchemists panacea :) which can stack and you can get endless resistances right now!
It’s sad when the challenger class isn’t even used for a tank build. There are issues with class setups and abilities not making sense. The Archon lvl 10 ability isn’t great looks cool but locks you out of gun use…
Challenger has bad perks and even skills have serious issues. Juggernaut is functionally useless as bulwark is kinda wasted if you near the armor dr cap. Even its archetype trait is functionally useless due to weight coming at certain milestones ie 25, 50 and so on. Meaning a lot of its points are completely redundant. Finally its perks either only apply on an enemy IF they within 10m of you when you activate stuff so again being functionally useless. Juggernaut would have been more useful if it reduced incoming damage instead of bulwark. Perks would have been useful IF they buffed the challenger instead of debuffing enemy within 10m. Another issues is the skills, challenger skills all have BS long animation times leading to a lot of waste. Even the die hard perk getting up takes away most of the benefit of 3 secs on invincibility. Alchemist also allows one to use rocket fuel, confidence boosters are lite challenger skills now lasting for 40 secs per use. Way better than what challenger offers. Challengers damage perk also has issues with mods due to it being based on distance so a lot of times you do not actually get you damage bonus.
Its from alchemists ability panacea! I get bonus resist from each healing source! Some people said they still show at 10 so it could just be a visual bug, because at full hp it shouldnt be in effect unless they count regen while full!
I doubt it to be honest, but if so I will have a new build out after patch that will be just as strong! Just need to see the changes first to make a build around them :)
I do hope even with that they allow things like the Bulwark buff to still raise the defense of players, else that would make these buffs pointless on characters that reach the cap without them
@@NottheWinnerGaming the extra 10 came from a hidden effect with Alchemist Archetype + Tranquil Heart grants +10 Resistance bonus to all elements and status.
I played with a dude who was dummy tank in apocalypse with no armor on he was like half of a quarter health and took a lot for him to die I didn’t ask him his build but yeah I know he had engineer though
@@discoduck3785 if you wanna tank in hardcore, engineer (if you got access to classes unlocked out of hardcore). Thats because you cant, to my knowledge, collect this class without dying to the fog, meaning the only way to get that class and its very juicy defensive trait is to get it at the start
You first need to find the dagger. Basically when you enter take left path, follow all the way to mirror, enter mirror run to end. Climb up and jump to the purple then turn around and jump to the top of the statue to get the dagger. You can inspect the dagger to see who did it and use it as evidence to avoid fight or you can just keep dagger to give to nimue for a weapon and start the fight! (once you have the dagger you can make the claim, but you arent required to bring it to nimue, thats just if you want a weapon)
Well damn man, you don’t have many subscribers but I think you just earned yourself one more. These builds are pretty tits. Not got a crystal ball, but if you keep innovating I think you’re gonna blow up
I really appreciate it! Glad you like the builds, and I will keep working on them for sure! Hopefully one day I do blow up, but happy just helping for now :)
DR has been bugged and incorrectly evaluating DR totals since launch. It still is not fixed but for a while you could well surpass DR caps and take way less dmg! Currently DR is wayyyyy weaker than at launch but is still in the works!
While good. One boss with vicious will completely invalidate this build. I was using a engineer/challenge with 135% damage resist build and still got one shot by venom with vicious on only veteran. I was using restriction band, but that was to stack a ton of defense buffs.
Prior to the patch 190 hp with this setup could tank vicious hits (not many but enough to live not a 1 shot). Restriction band is your issue! Not enough total Hp easy to 1 shot!
Keep in mind that this build is only going to work well on bosses that dont have vicious or spiteful. Got a Cancer fight on Apoc with both Vengeful and Spiteful, and even max DR wont save you. Even just Vengeful was enough to deal 90% of my health with max DR, so have a hyper damage build or something like that in your back pocket for when you do come across those fights.
If your getting hit a lot yes but the idea is to not get hit a lot so having more damage and is vital at that point. You are still going to be melted and because you shooting nothing but hopes and dreams your having to spend a longer time trying to stay alive , it’s a loose loose. I love a tank build but the damage just won’t be enough unless you wanna fight for like an hour. 275% more health on apoc plus the 450% more damage output . These builds last longer by a moment but can’t use the time productively enough to dent the boss. Well thought out build and great content.
@@NottheWinnerGaming I'm sure that it probably would with the bosses from the normal 3 worlds. I didn't have any issues on my Apoc run with any of them. The fight that took me longest before root Earth was the damn labyrinth cubes was the damn labyrinth cubes funny enough. I get to cancer and venom though and it took me hours to get past both; Cancer (Vicious/Spiteful) because of the literal one shots that no amount of health could save me from and Vemon (Regenerator/Spiteful) because his stupid particle cloak makes it hard for me to see his windups. Hell, final boss went down in 3 tries after those two because he rolled with Regenerator and Elemental resist. I get that root Earth is supposed to be the final gauntlet before Annihilation, but it's really just a slog on Apoc. I feel like it's a bit overturned.
@@llvllercyplays8545 I appreciate it! I hear the need for better DPS builds also! I love the tank builds still even on Apoc, but I am waiting to see what patch one brings for most dps stuff! I expect a lot to change very quickly after patch one haha!
@@dist0rt3dhum0r I honestly think it feels like a endless boss slog and its a bit rough! Especially with venom being as dangerous as he is! I have a few options to help dodge in those more challening fights though! I will work on a build or two tomorrow hopefully! Working on a couple drops!
Alchemist and summoner are actually better. I tested your builds versus the one I made on Nightmare my HP regeneration is almost 200% faster With my. Rings ups and I have more HP your build only has 11 more armor then me and 1100 less DPS
Have you tried it on apocalypse vs the bosses? It does make quite a difference! But I guarantee many better builds will be found and I hope to try them all! My previous build was focused on hp regen and shield and honestly was fantastic but this one tanks heavy dmg!
@@NottheWinnerGaming awesome ! what was the archetype setup ? enginner / medic ? and did you use the same rings + amulet as your high hp dr build ? Thanks man
@Terminarch That's not really true though, because the more DR you have, the more effective that extra HP is. You gain the most effective tankiness from having a balance of all things
My understanding is that overcapping DR is pointless after 80% as it is a hard cap. Maybe that info is wrong though because there's a LOT of misinformation around this game since it's so convoluted. Just getting this build together in itself is a laundry list of RNG and looking up guides that are usually half factual. :S
@@JodouTR That is generally true if you play as intended. The 80% cap is AFTER armor... if you manage to get higher (yes even over 100%) BEFORE armor you are actually immortal. I soloed apoc with this nonsense. It's actually ridiculous and definitely a bug. Side note. I don't understand why they didn't simply calculate this shit multiplicatively instead of additive. DMG x (1 - .25) x (1 - .15). That way no matter your build adding a 25% DR always reduces damage by 25%... but with diminishing difference returns for already high DR. Plus it would be impossible to break 100% without an individual effect of at least that number!
@@ragingmonkey4592 Generally you would be correct, but all the best DR is either timed or requires low health. So picking between +20HP or +25% DR in an ADDITIVE DR calculation isn't even close. For example, he uses Hardened which caps out at 15%DR under half health and does nothing at max or against 1-shots. You can't calculate that DR on top of additional (max) health for EHP. Meanwhile, swapping +20HP ring for Guardian is permanent Bulwark which DOES apply to prior max health gains. Let's say you already have 170HP and 70%DR. Adding the +20HP ring is EHP 633. Adding Guardian (with only the baseline 1 stack, mind you) is EHP 680. 2 stacks is EHP 850. Plus your flat regeneration effects will also be relatively stronger. +20HP will not save your ass from 1-shots on apoc. But artificially hovering under 30% HP for permanent immortality will. The only real solution to this is changing the math entirely. It would be one line of code. See my other recent comment in this thread if you're interested.
He LITERALLY stood there and took EVERY hit... All you have to do for "harder bosses" is put some effort into not taking every hit to the dome... Lol That being said - Not sure what you mean by "Harder" bosses anyway. Labyrinth Sentinel is ranked 3rd hardest boss in the game by IGN and Game Rant... And its a group of flipping cubes running in the SAME exact sequence the ENTIRE fight! Some builds just do better against certain bosses. Pets are 100% usesless against bosses like Sha'Hala and Sentinel... But great against bosses like Tal'Ratha and Ravager.
This was a nice build bro if you dont like it dont watch or comment on the video. This games amazing and this is a cool build from it go play the game yourself if you want to come up with your own things
Thats cause this is a build video not where to find X but I hear ya! Ring of Crisis is in Nerud, things online say the hatchery but it can show up in any part supposedly. (I didnt get mine in the hatchery)
there is a ring in n'erud which gives 1 stack of bulwark each hit taken, up to 5 stacks for 10 seconds, im using this and it also works really well. i got that ring anywhere openfield. called hardcore metal band
@@NottheWinnerGaming well i used it while i fougth fealin on apocalypse with your build, in 2player session. the face tank is real lol. but i did not use lifeleech as u, i dont even need it. anyway, stupidly op build xD gj!
Bright Steel Ring gives the wearer the fastest roll in the game, even if they have the flop roll. So you could wear that, and then wear any amulet you wished to in any armor you wish. It wouldn't matter what your encumbrance is.
Do you know how to get it ? I completed the campaign 3 times and many adventures but Reggie doesn't sell it
@@win3325 reggie sells it. just like other vendors, gotta check when it refreshes and hope its there. you can leave ward and change system time at least 30 mins ahead (i do hour) then go back and it should be refreshed if you wanna speed it up. youll see an ! on the items if the shop refreshed iirc
100% Great Option!
@@win3325 its random, just keep checking reggies store everytime you load into ward 13
@@NottheWinnerGamingwhat ring would you replace with bright steel?
Messing around with this setup it really seems that the rings, traits, armor, and medic subclass are the bones for invincibility. Having alchemist is fairly overkill since you can swap out empress ring for feastmaster’s and get similar results. The extra health feels superfluous except maybe in cases of boss one-shots. Black cat ring can fix that assuming your build is pivoting towards blasting the boss down.
Point being that the sustain from medic and emergency response rings are enough to carry just about anything you want to main. I was zipping around as handler while finishing out level 9 of medic and it was a blast.
Also, I think the 50% health cap ring is actually more broken with the right setup since it doesn’t rely as much on trigger response protection so it can avoid one-shots altogether without high HP or even one concoction. There’s more to unearth here but this setup is perfectly viable, if perhaps less than perfect.
I will point out that 100hp does not survive most root earth boss hits on apocalypse, which is why restriction cord was removed! The extra health is only needed if you wanna be tanky and not actually dodge as much!
You could 100% take off alchemist and only lose one concoction but you lose out on panacea for the resistance buffs and a skill that gives 25% DR with stagger resist. Lots of great options, but alchemist is nice for right now!
My idea is that having the restriction cord might help you tank one-hit attacks better because with full health you would not get any of the bonuses from rings such as the rusted heirloom ring. I’m not sure if this would work though, I’d have to test it because I had a way weaker tank build before that would simply not survive when playing apoc with a friend on root earth.
Yeah the issue is it is 10% +15% so you get 25% more DR but half the HP so if something would deal 100-120 to you after DR it now kills you instead of bringing you to half health with higher DR. Then you start to regen past the 1 shot range!
Restriction cord works on most apocalypse bosses, there are just 1-2 that can be a real issue when running it! Could use it the whole run then swap for 1-2 bosses etc
Nice video man. I have been exploring alternatives for melee and found some good ones. Running twisted idol amulet gives 30 percent armor effectiveness plus reduces encumbrance by 15. For rings I'm running dying ember which you touched on in your last video, but then fae bruiser ring which grants 2 stacks of bulwark when you do melee damage, then guardians ring, which adds another stack of bulwark when an enemy is within 7m, and another stack after receiving melee damage. Final ring is fae warrior ring which increases melee damage by 15 percent. These in combo with the challenger class skill juggernaut gives 3 more stacks of bulwark, 15 percent increased movement and melee speed, AND 50 percent increased melee damage for 25 seconds. I pair it with engineer for extra armor, wearing full Leto set at 65 weight. My total damage reduction is 85.7 percent. Melee damage is plus 17.2 percent but goes up to 67.5 when popping juggernaut. Armor is 308.1. So youre walking around with 7 stacks of bulwark, dealing 2-3k damage per swing without having to risk your health being below 50 percent. Also have dr, armor, and melee damage slotted in my relic. Would love to her your thoughts on this.
Love the sound of this build! I just cant use bulwark myself, falls off on late apoc bosses, otherwise super useful!
@@NottheWinnerGamingah. That's unfortunate. I haven't made it to apocalypse yet, didn't know it fell off super hard. Thanks for the info!
also note that its possible to take any other amulet as long as you are willing to sacrifice a ring slot to equip the bright steel ring.. as that ring gives you the fastest dodge no matter how encumbered you are, even if in the red (though keep in mind you still have all the extra stamina cost). That ring is basically a free access to full leto no matter the build as long as you can spare that one ring slot.
coming from someone that uses an engineer/challenger build (id consider handler instead of challenger but i'm afraid even when staying next to you the dog will die too easily) that also focuses on some nasty health regen to abuse that heavy gun :p
Yep 100% very useful ring to be 100% fair :)
The extra stam cost pairs well with the shield on stam usage ring, giving shield on literally every dodge
I recommend using Sacred Lakewater instead of Sanguine Vapor and Bloodstream 10 instead of Untouchable and some Siphoner levels. You will often be able to get back most or all of your grey health this way so it just adds a ton passive sustain compared to the active nature of the lifesteal options.
Great point!! Sanguine vapor was the only 1 I planned to remove!
Very fun looking build. In your opinion, what is the least valuable ring to the build? I kinda want to squeeze in anastasija ring for the constant haste you get, or Burden of the divine since being able to share half of this insanity with your friends sounds fun.
Post patch weakest would likely be amber moon stone!
I'm loving this series of videos. It's just constant theorycrafting between you and the comments coming together to become the tankiest you can. Don't really see this sort of thing with build videos.
Hehe, thanks! I love reading all the comments and constantly improving!! I will likely have a similar series covering dodge builds and dps builds in the future. For now still loving the tank and seeing how OP we can really get together!!!
@@NottheWinnerGaming Absolutely, its how you truly get the top setups. Alot of people upload an OP build and have done with it. Onto the next one. But dont truly unlock potential without hours of playtime + alot of outside input.
I use the Basic Bitch class (Hunter/Gunslinger) for damage, then just Tranquil Heart, Ring of the Forest, Fae Shaman Ring, Ring of the Wolf, Haste Ring (you know the one), Twisted Idol (I use Fae set and want to hit 80%DR and have normal rolls without using other armor and needing to use BSR/Omen rings), Mythic Healing, DR, and Armor fragments. Make sure to grab Fortify, Triage, and Regrowth for traits and it's a decent all around build.
Can swap Forest for Divine, then Handler/Medic and take the Swift trait and you're an hp generator and the move speed you give is top-tier.
Awesome build!
Great video, just a quick question. When you hover over your advanced character stats and then over total DR, it says that DR is capped at 80%. So isnt everything above that just overkill or am i overseeing something? Like you have baseline 83,7%, will the vial even affect you? Or the ring which gives DR, the lower HP you got?
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You can currently pass the 80% maximum, this may be due to how reductions are calculated in the game! Essentially ignore the 80% for now!
at this point, the bosses will be going to ward 13 to hunt me down.
Hahahaha. We are the final boss!
@@NottheWinnerGamingi’d love to see you do a corrosive build
Interesting! I will try and find a good combo for this, let me mark it down so I dont forget!
I have most items for these builds except the Generating Ring. I still want it even if there's tanky builds that don't use it because it'd be great for group healing with the healing allies for 50% of self heals ring
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hi guys ! i have 1 question about panacea in coop, does this perk work with things like regen ? For exemple, if tranquil hearth heal me for 2hp, does my allies get the 2hp also ? Thx for reply =D
Yes! So if you each are getting 10hp/s then 10 from each person gets transfered to the others meaning everyone is now at 30hp/s :) You can also stack with burden of the divine for an addition 50% so really 40hp/s :P I would focus on something with high hp like this and just get to 5 hp/s because all together 20hp/s on your team is insane with high HP and you can take a hit!
I like how you had so much healing that the boss just stopped attacking for a second
He got confused... he was like... uhh guys... its not working!!! I thought we were the scary ones!
SAO moment
@@AuthorityCatthat kirito scenes...
I currently have more armour, less health. Does this build with the rings etc only work because of the health being high? Or does it balance out the same since my armours so high? Great vids.
I would check out my most recent build video, 15 minutes in is a high hp with maxed DR build, so if you have more armor/dr than that build you are wasting space! There is a cap to how much total DR you can get so the bonus hp does make a huge difference!
@@NottheWinnerGaming awesome will do :)
What is a good substitute for the Ring of Crisis? I cant get the water event to spawn to save my life. You mentioned Black Cat. Any other good options?
I honestly love ring of crisis, tough to replace! From what I understand it may not be in hatchery though! I thought water room puzzle also, but I got mine in The dark conduit!
Can I swap navigator neck (don't have it) for twisted idol and remove empress seal? Also I've been trying a archon build was cast speed 2 casts kill a boss.
You can swap whatever you like! Not sure if it will be as good but try anything and everything!
Have you played around mist step dodge? It ignores dodge encumbrance so it does not matter if your weight is at 90+ you're gonna dodge without flopping. You'll also get additional 3% life steal and 20% damage with the Full moon circlet equipped.
I have been planning to do some work around that build in the next few days to a week! Got a few ideas cooking up to try but that is near the top of the list for sure!!!
The bright steel ring is just better unfortunately, doesnt kill you and the max roll is more spammable.
Excellent! I thought you had the perfect build earlier, now you've got the perfecter build. Can't wait to see the perfectest build. Onwards and upwards. For me, back to the grind, but it is fun. Cheers, Harry. PS Have you tried the Feastmaster's Signet Ring for an extra Concoction?
I havent tried that one yet, but I think I only actually need 3 concoctions not even 4 :P! Cheers Harry! Hope I can keep improving!
How do you use several archetypes traits that your not running I don't understand
I was wondering the same questions. Is there a way to equip more?
@@Rothinsky I looked it up once you hit lvl 10 the trait becomes lvl able
@@jonathonanderson7995 I'm over that. Once you hit Level 10 you can aquire another Archetype so you get have two archetypes with their Archetype traits. Those get deactivate once you choose another Archetype.
@@Rothinsky ya you have to unselected the archetype you won't use then go back in to traits and you can hpgrade it while on other archetypes it was a pain for me as well. May be a lvl requirement in over 70on such type lvls
Once it gets to level 10 you can level it for other builds!
Any idea how to deal with data corruption attacks? The red ones Cancer and Venom does. They one shot me bo matter what despite nothing else in the game even tickling me
They should not be able to 1 shot you at this level of hp, but if you stay in the range/circle you take massive dmg per second. Best advice is to dodge it to be 100% honest! If you are struggling with tanking it, check out my misty step build! Still high HP and really nice DR but allows you to dodge in a better way!
Does the ring that keeps you at half health keep the dr up at all times? I feel like if you removed empress and added that. You be in god mode most of the time, outside of some bosses one shots.
Well I actually tried that one with a 130 hp build and the hp just gets to low on apoc for a few situations (unless you just dodge well)! The bonus hp from empress is actually a lot more than it seems!
why shadeskin over barkskin?
im thinking about running this as a melee build
i would switch out 1 amor pice and run a melee amulet should be tanky still
Yeah works great as melee build because shield breaker is on melee wep so you can get more shields with each hit or with a lifesteal bleed melee setup!
I like both but shadeskin can help a bunch in tight spots!
@@NottheWinnerGaming ye i want to try bleed lifesteal melee tank but i cant find the twisted somthing mutator that gives bleed
@@bluefpv3263 Ahh yeah, so annoying when your missing just 1 piece of a build!
just tried it on nightweaver nightmare diff worked like a sharm im to stupid to dodge the grab but she just couldnt kill me
Nice! Glad to hear it!
How does this work against Nightweaver? I've been trying to beat it with a different tank build but for some reason its bugs oneshot me if i dont kill them in time. The suck grab in ohase 2 as well, trying to dodge that is so wonky (not the wall grab, i dont go near the walls, lmao)
I know the one you mean, bring a turret or the 1st/2nd summon and it can knock her off of you during the suck grab, but this build should be able to tank that one!
@@NottheWinnerGaming Can confirm, turned out I had all the pieces already, put it together with most of the same traits. First try, not even close to dying. Even got suck grabbed a few times, lol. Thank you for this kickass build :D unrelated question, does corruption or whatever it's called, the red damage, ignore DR? I was helping my friend on veteran the other day fight the flying miniboss in the final area, and it could not scratch me, except it's red attacks
Happy to help! Hmm maybe the reds were crits? not 100% sure to be honest!
@@NottheWinnerGaming oh! One more question, cuz I couldn't see it mentioned anywhere in the video. What mutators do you put on the weapons? I put the bleed one on my nightfall just for a little extra damage but idk what to put on the enigma
@@Arkale893_0 I use refunder and bandit! Basically one adds ammo to reserves other adds directly to gun! (they get other buffs at lv 10 also) The idea is to run enigma and be able to shoot as long as I need! I also use shieldbreaker on my melee!
What Modifiers and Mods do you have on your weapons?
Refunder and Bandit on both ranged weps to always keep the ammo coming and shield breaker on melee!
So , the build u showed at the beginning was the one showcased in the final 2 boss fights right? The fixed one for more dr?
Yes :)
Can’t wait to give this build a test run! Good stuff!
Thanks! hope you enjoy it!
Do you think you this would work with the crescent moon bow?
100% you may want to swap the ring for shield when you use 75% of clip (each bowshot gets you shield)
@@NottheWinnerGaming great!
Now to just farm for that relic. Seems like a pain to get though lol
There is a way to sacrifice a little bit of damage reduction for more damage.
You get the -10 weight from the talent instead of the amulet, switch to the elemental damage amulet (the one from the labyrinth) and either get the +5% dmg ring for every status effect or the +Duration for status effect on rings.
The ring that adds damage reduction below 30% hp is almost never active and rather useless tbh. As soon as you drop below 30% you are almost always get the 25% shield at which point your natural HP/s gets you above 30% HP again and you lose the effect.
The weapons you'd use for that build is the Krell Ax, the Hellfire and a weapon that can use the Corrosion mod with the Bleed on Weakspot damage mutator.
you'll have 4 debuffs running for 20-30 seconds applied in like 2-4 seconds. Each get buffed by the damage perks from medic/alchemist (since it's "all damage") and the AoE is just insane.
You can also still use enigma and the acid-hammer/burn sword and switch around which weapon applies what debuff.
The ring would provide +20% all damage (+5% damage for each debuff) and the amulet provides insane AoE and burst damage.
Alot of your damge is done passively and it's quite funny seeing enemies tick down like crazy with bug chunks of damage from the amulet now and then.
You almost lose no HP/DR at all.
Very good points :) I also love passive damage so I will 100% look into it!
-10 weight from trait, how to lower 5 more w/o using amulet? the point is medium roll with leo mk2 armor set
there is a ring for 10 hp and -5 encumberance! So stack that with trait for 15 if you dont wanna use amulet!
Also if you just want medium roll there is a ring for light roll regardless of weight, blanking on the name!
@@NottheWinnerGaming Bright Steel Ring :) (Great build btw! Loving your work. I've been trying to create a tanky build like this for a while now and couldn't nail anything down, so thank you for sharing.)
How did you get those juicy mythic relic shards?
Keep upgrading them! Do it on apocalypse difficulty for best results!
I´ve been working towards something similar. Was thinking that twisted idol would be a better neck to use.
Thats what I had on previously! I think this one works best though!
Where did ring of crisis drop for you? I cant seem to find it
I got mine in the Dark COnduit despite online saying the hatchery!
Finally found it in Void vessel facility... odd must just be a random drop in many nerud dungeons.
Any suggestion on how to build it? For example priotisie what when?
If you are farming items you are likely playing on the 1st 2 difficulties so I would say get leto armor and hope you get some DR stuff in yaesha early :P if not see what you can work with!
@@NottheWinnerGaming yeah I’m still on normal. At the last boss. Have most of the kit but not the class levels yet. So can work on those via adventure mode.
@@NottheWinnerGaming thanks!
Nice video as usual. How your protection against bleed etc. is 20 while my armor is same but I have 10 each. How to up that?
I also need to know because this seems impossible.
If you are using alchemist and my stuff you should be healing constantly which procs the ability panacea, when i left the game and re entered it was just at 20
Panacea can make you go well over 100 in each resistance during a fight, it stacks :)
How the performance with finalboss? That thing is real pain in plahse 2
As long as you dodge occasionally you will be fine, if you try and facetank final boss you will die sadly lol!
I like how the bosses were like “come on man at least move around”
Lol right! Got them feeling discouraged out here!
You can unrust your amulet and get more hp, go to ne'rud and do the forgotten prisoner quest line, let him eat you while you're wearing the amulet and you'll get 5 more hp.
Yes 5 more hp but only -10 encumberance! I mentioned it in the video, so sadly it just barely doesnt fit the build!
@@NottheWinnerGaming yah i did this by accident and was pissed that it happened xD i havent checked to see if i can get a fresh version yet
@MrHJordan Yah im thinking so as well lol ahh well I'll learn to live without it I guess xD
@@JesuslsASamurai No, you can pick up the rusty one again, it's not considered the same item, don't worry :)
@@Nootrya !!! thanks dude your a hero
nice build but what about world bosses and map clear? If it can handle world bosses it would help people their first run through apocalypse the first time around! not stops you from changing build before boss fights if you struggle. nice build!
This works great on world bosses, but check out my latest tank video for carrying!
I have a question, did you farm exp somewhere? If so where did you farm it
N'Erud - Hatchery... Find a tile set where the 2 big rooms with the 3 elite spawns (each) are near each other. When you clear those 2 - Die so it sends you back to the start of the dungeon.
Rinse!
Repeat!
That gives about 2k XP per Archtype divided among the ones that need to level. Example: If you have one at 10 - Then the one you are leveling will get the full XP - But if say both are at 5 - They both will split the XP.
Its boring as all FUCK! But it gets it done!
@@TheMorrogoth Thx, I think any elite will work, for example the red throne yaesha story line ends up in widows court and that has a very good elite farm area with 5 elites nearby (im not sure if pan warriors are elites or not cause they dont always drop crystals)
Ill be on the lookout for areas like that
@@MiquShiro The elites aren't the ones that give the XP you are after - Its the invasion calls (You can get up to 3 - With extra elites!). And the run - If you roll a good tile set... Takes 5 mins per 2k XP. You can fully level an archtype in less than an hour.
@@TheMorrogoth Im farming at my spot atm, and im getting about 3-4k per run killing 5 elites, takes anywhere from 2-4 minutes per run so id say ill stick with my spot (Im on nightmare difficulty with mudtooths elixir no sagestone maxed out scholar)
@@MiquShiro Well - You do you. You asked for a good spot.
I've leveled all Archtypes (including Archon) doing this and this is what I've done. Lol
I’ve been looking for a non-bug tank build. This also looks like you can build quickly. Thanks.
No worries at all!
How are you getting to 20 Status resistance in everything? I'm only seeing 10.
When I left the game and rejoined it moved to 20!
@@NottheWinnerGaming
So it's a bug?
Since I am always healing I think the 10 is just a visual bug and its actually 20. If you go back into the game now is it showing 10 or 20 (with my exact setup)?
Is it actually confirmed that sticking enigma on an enemy multiple times actually does something? Cause only 1 will actually show damage numbers
Only 1 dmg number, but the number goes up for each on stacked, so 1st might do 86 per sec then 2nd could be 97 then 106 etc etc. Its not a huge boost but you can see it for sure!
If you let the Neru´d Boss eat you with the Rusti Navigator Pendant equipped, this item gets changed buffs.(20HP.20Stamina,-10 Armor Encumbrance)
Yep! The issue is the build idea is using -15 armor encumberance, and 10 wouldnt be enough!
Hey is there ever a variation where we use dead kings memento instead to not lose out on the 10 stamina with the tradeoff of 5 health? Just curious on your thoughts on this. EDIT: This is in place of Seal of the empress
You can totally do that swap! I didnt mind the stam loss tbh, especially considering the neck gives 15!
I'm impressed!! Keep up the great work!!
Thanks!
Is untouchable even needed with this build. Considering how tanky it is if you're actively trying to dodge id rather put those points and finish off bark skin and put the remainder in expertise for the skill refresh. Or is there a reason more for that
Yes actually, the window for heavy is just out of where I want for certain "harder" bosses, like in root earth! I need just over 10% to get the dodges I need so 4 points gives me 12% just over enough :) I could just Git Gud but the extra 12% helps a ton in my opinion!
@@NottheWinnerGaming thanks cause I wanna try this. Playing on apocalypse has been rough I can normally dodge through attacks fairly easily but sometimes you just get caught up you know. I'll give it a try both ways see which works but thank you so much. I wanted to use other rings and not just play heavy damage. I enjoyed my bow build but this being able to face tank shit is super nice.
If you wanna run a bow build you can run the one where shield every time you use 75% of clip so constant shield on attack! If you struggle on certain dodges play with the % 21% could be perfect for you or 6% might, depends on how much you need! If you need evade distance consider that with 1-2 points also!
there is people like to be tank more than dps , but i love when they are playingtogether
Might be a stupid question, how does life steel work?
U regen a percentage of the damage you deal for example siphoner 3% of dmg as lifesteal at max
@@Sharkhandyman ohhhh ok ok i have zero idea on how it worked. Thank you so much for that.
Heal based on damage so super useful!
What mutators you using on your weapons?
Refunder and theif for ranged to keep my guns full as often as possible and shield breaker on melee to gain shields but i rarely melee!
@@NottheWinnerGamingDid you max it out for the charge attack consumes shield at level 10 ? Or stop at level 9?
I didnt max it out but you can, just dont charge attack, only use basic! :)
How in the world do you have 326 armor? I can't get close to that even with Engineer using the same armor and rings.
My relic has relic fragments on it for more armor!
How are your base resistances at 20?
I am always healing in this build and when i left the game and re entered it was showing 20 so im assuming from alchemists panacea :) which can stack and you can get endless resistances right now!
@@NottheWinnerGaming I think its the shadeskin trait. 10% to all elemental DR
It’s sad when the challenger class isn’t even used for a tank build. There are issues with class setups and abilities not making sense. The Archon lvl 10 ability isn’t great looks cool but locks you out of gun use…
Yeah challenger needs major buffs!
@MrHJordan Which is sad because it was advertised as a tank :( The encumberance is nice, but man did they do challenger dirty!
You can trigger the ability again to turn it off
Challenger has bad perks and even skills have serious issues. Juggernaut is functionally useless as bulwark is kinda wasted if you near the armor dr cap. Even its archetype trait is functionally useless due to weight coming at certain milestones ie 25, 50 and so on. Meaning a lot of its points are completely redundant. Finally its perks either only apply on an enemy IF they within 10m of you when you activate stuff so again being functionally useless. Juggernaut would have been more useful if it reduced incoming damage instead of bulwark. Perks would have been useful IF they buffed the challenger instead of debuffing enemy within 10m.
Another issues is the skills, challenger skills all have BS long animation times leading to a lot of waste. Even the die hard perk getting up takes away most of the benefit of 3 secs on invincibility. Alchemist also allows one to use rocket fuel, confidence boosters are lite challenger skills now lasting for 40 secs per use. Way better than what challenger offers. Challengers damage perk also has issues with mods due to it being based on distance so a lot of times you do not actually get you damage bonus.
Can i do this build on survival ? Or i will not be able to find all the items ?
I never played on survival, only veteran or higher, so I am not 100% sure! Sorry
@@NottheWinnerGaming Veteran ? can i do something different to use your build ? I will start veteran soon and i need everything i can get :)
I am pretty sure all or almost all items can be gotten on any difficulty tbh! You should be fine on survivor!
@@NottheWinnerGaming Thank you
Sticking this on the “To Do” List. Have a sub!
Thanks! :)
I'm only 20 hours in
Where do you buy these consumable I can't find them
Consumables are from mudtooth in town (listen to 1 story, back out then go back in and he should have a shop option)
How are you getting 20 to all resists?
Its from alchemists ability panacea! I get bonus resist from each healing source! Some people said they still show at 10 so it could just be a visual bug, because at full hp it shouldnt be in effect unless they count regen while full!
@@NottheWinnerGaming Thanks!
how do I get the rusted navigators pedant?
I got in Nerud but I forgot where!
Isn't the "get past 80% dr" bug likely to get fixed in the next patch? Isn't that today?
I doubt it to be honest, but if so I will have a new build out after patch that will be just as strong! Just need to see the changes first to make a build around them :)
Today? Where did you get that ETA?
It apparently got postponed to thursday. I got it from phemetos channel and he's getting it from the developer blog afaik
Fair enough! I will likely do a video on the patch notes so we can all keep planning OP builds!
I do hope even with that they allow things like the Bulwark buff to still raise the defense of players, else that would make these buffs pointless on characters that reach the cap without them
hello, can I replace Seal of the Empress (Increase HP 20, Reduce stamina 10) to Ring of Robust (Increase Max HP 10, Armor 15)? which one is better?
You 100% can, I was just trying to max out the HP to ensure it survives any hit!
why dose your elemental stats show 20? in the first build mine only show 10
Mine showed 10 until i rejoined the game but then showed 20, but whenever I get heals I get more status!
@@NottheWinnerGaming the extra 10 came from a hidden effect with Alchemist Archetype + Tranquil Heart grants +10 Resistance bonus to all elements and status.
I’d say shade skin isn’t even needed bc of all the resistances u can stack up just with alchemist
Very true! :) It is optional for sure!
I played with a dude who was dummy tank in apocalypse with no armor on he was like half of a quarter health and took a lot for him to die I didn’t ask him his build but yeah I know he had engineer though
Haha yeah! There are a couple ways to be cheap for sure!
I suck too bad to glass cannon the higher difficulties. Can't wait to get the items to try these builds
Its rough early on :) Once you get a few items you just get tankier and tankier!
@@NottheWinnerGaming What do you think is best archetype for starting a Hardcore run?
Tough to say honestly! Out of the 5 maybe challenger just in case you die but it is the weakest early on!
@@discoduck3785 if you wanna tank in hardcore, engineer (if you got access to classes unlocked out of hardcore). Thats because you cant, to my knowledge, collect this class without dying to the fog, meaning the only way to get that class and its very juicy defensive trait is to get it at the start
@@thorveim1174 I want to eventually try hardcore. Maybe after I get a "SuperTank" built for trying Veteran to Apocalypse solo.
How can i trigger the council chamber boss fight?
You first need to find the dagger. Basically when you enter take left path, follow all the way to mirror, enter mirror run to end. Climb up and jump to the purple then turn around and jump to the top of the statue to get the dagger.
You can inspect the dagger to see who did it and use it as evidence to avoid fight or you can just keep dagger to give to nimue for a weapon and start the fight! (once you have the dagger you can make the claim, but you arent required to bring it to nimue, thats just if you want a weapon)
Twistes amulet would give you like an additional 100 armor at that point i think
Twisted does give you a chunk for sure!
Well damn man, you don’t have many subscribers but I think you just earned yourself one more. These builds are pretty tits.
Not got a crystal ball, but if you keep innovating I think you’re gonna blow up
I really appreciate it! Glad you like the builds, and I will keep working on them for sure! Hopefully one day I do blow up, but happy just helping for now :)
How do you get the amulet?
In Nerud, I cant remember if it was random or not though!
Damage reduction caps out at 80% big chance youre hitting cap and wasting stats.
DR has been bugged and incorrectly evaluating DR totals since launch. It still is not fixed but for a while you could well surpass DR caps and take way less dmg! Currently DR is wayyyyy weaker than at launch but is still in the works!
While good. One boss with vicious will completely invalidate this build. I was using a engineer/challenge with 135% damage resist build and still got one shot by venom with vicious on only veteran. I was using restriction band, but that was to stack a ton of defense buffs.
Prior to the patch 190 hp with this setup could tank vicious hits (not many but enough to live not a 1 shot). Restriction band is your issue! Not enough total Hp easy to 1 shot!
Keep in mind that this build is only going to work well on bosses that dont have vicious or spiteful.
Got a Cancer fight on Apoc with both Vengeful and Spiteful, and even max DR wont save you. Even just Vengeful was enough to deal 90% of my health with max DR, so have a hyper damage build or something like that in your back pocket for when you do come across those fights.
Yeah the extra hp helps a ton in those fights though!
If your getting hit a lot yes but the idea is to not get hit a lot so having more damage and is vital at that point. You are still going to be melted and because you shooting nothing but hopes and dreams your having to spend a longer time trying to stay alive , it’s a loose loose. I love a tank build but the damage just won’t be enough unless you wanna fight for like an hour. 275% more health on apoc plus the 450% more damage output . These builds last longer by a moment but can’t use the time productively enough to dent the boss. Well thought out build and great content.
@@NottheWinnerGaming I'm sure that it probably would with the bosses from the normal 3 worlds. I didn't have any issues on my Apoc run with any of them.
The fight that took me longest before root Earth was the damn labyrinth cubes was the damn labyrinth cubes funny enough. I get to cancer and venom though and it took me hours to get past both; Cancer (Vicious/Spiteful) because of the literal one shots that no amount of health could save me from and Vemon (Regenerator/Spiteful) because his stupid particle cloak makes it hard for me to see his windups. Hell, final boss went down in 3 tries after those two because he rolled with Regenerator and Elemental resist.
I get that root Earth is supposed to be the final gauntlet before Annihilation, but it's really just a slog on Apoc. I feel like it's a bit overturned.
@@llvllercyplays8545 I appreciate it! I hear the need for better DPS builds also! I love the tank builds still even on Apoc, but I am waiting to see what patch one brings for most dps stuff! I expect a lot to change very quickly after patch one haha!
@@dist0rt3dhum0r I honestly think it feels like a endless boss slog and its a bit rough! Especially with venom being as dangerous as he is! I have a few options to help dodge in those more challening fights though! I will work on a build or two tomorrow hopefully!
Working on a couple drops!
Good stuff 😎
Thanks for watching!
i put this build on joined a random last boss and solo it for them on apoc1st try lol this build is insane
Glad you enjoyed it!! Its by far my favorite!
love a face tank build
haha its so fun!
How would this work against vicious apocalypse cancer 1p?
It will survive a hit in a pinch, but I suggest trying to dodge :)
how did you get to 300+ armor? :'o
Leto armor, then relic frag for 20% more armor on my heart :P
btw i don't know if its a bug but if you take 4 drinks and then die when you respawn and change the alchemist the 4 drinks is still there
Probably intented to be fair!
@@NottheWinnerGaming i think so too, and you get the +100% duration
Alchemist and summoner are actually better. I tested your builds versus the one I made on Nightmare my HP regeneration is almost 200% faster With my. Rings ups and I have more HP your build only has 11 more armor then me and 1100 less DPS
Have you tried it on apocalypse vs the bosses? It does make quite a difference! But I guarantee many better builds will be found and I hope to try them all! My previous build was focused on hp regen and shield and honestly was fantastic but this one tanks heavy dmg!
@@NottheWinnerGaming no I only spent 3 hours on both builds in nightmare mode to compare the best regen archetypes
@@NottheWinnerGaming wouldn't engineer be a good fit for this build ? considering you have 15% DR just having your minigun out
Yes! I ran engineer for a while, just trying out other options!
@@NottheWinnerGaming awesome ! what was the archetype setup ? enginner / medic ? and did you use the same rings + amulet as your high hp dr build ? Thanks man
Unfortunately, having more health is rather pointless with a DR build unless you're stacking percentage based healing (generating band)
I actually show that option off in this video and it loses to pure DR :)
@Terminarch That's not really true though, because the more DR you have, the more effective that extra HP is. You gain the most effective tankiness from having a balance of all things
My understanding is that overcapping DR is pointless after 80% as it is a hard cap. Maybe that info is wrong though because there's a LOT of misinformation around this game since it's so convoluted. Just getting this build together in itself is a laundry list of RNG and looking up guides that are usually half factual. :S
@@JodouTR That is generally true if you play as intended. The 80% cap is AFTER armor... if you manage to get higher (yes even over 100%) BEFORE armor you are actually immortal. I soloed apoc with this nonsense. It's actually ridiculous and definitely a bug.
Side note. I don't understand why they didn't simply calculate this shit multiplicatively instead of additive. DMG x (1 - .25) x (1 - .15). That way no matter your build adding a 25% DR always reduces damage by 25%... but with diminishing difference returns for already high DR. Plus it would be impossible to break 100% without an individual effect of at least that number!
@@ragingmonkey4592 Generally you would be correct, but all the best DR is either timed or requires low health. So picking between +20HP or +25% DR in an ADDITIVE DR calculation isn't even close.
For example, he uses Hardened which caps out at 15%DR under half health and does nothing at max or against 1-shots. You can't calculate that DR on top of additional (max) health for EHP. Meanwhile, swapping +20HP ring for Guardian is permanent Bulwark which DOES apply to prior max health gains.
Let's say you already have 170HP and 70%DR. Adding the +20HP ring is EHP 633. Adding Guardian (with only the baseline 1 stack, mind you) is EHP 680. 2 stacks is EHP 850. Plus your flat regeneration effects will also be relatively stronger.
+20HP will not save your ass from 1-shots on apoc. But artificially hovering under 30% HP for permanent immortality will.
The only real solution to this is changing the math entirely. It would be one line of code. See my other recent comment in this thread if you're interested.
Need to show builds fighting against hard bosses not ones with a weak build can defeat
He LITERALLY stood there and took EVERY hit...
All you have to do for "harder bosses" is put some effort into not taking every hit to the dome... Lol
That being said - Not sure what you mean by "Harder" bosses anyway. Labyrinth Sentinel is ranked 3rd hardest boss in the game by IGN and Game Rant... And its a group of flipping cubes running in the SAME exact sequence the ENTIRE fight! Some builds just do better against certain bosses. Pets are 100% usesless against bosses like Sha'Hala and Sentinel... But great against bosses like Tal'Ratha and Ravager.
@@TheMorrogoth you've just named 2 harder than gwendil 😂 I'm sure there's more
@@RyxnPlayzz Well I await your build video! Keep me posted when you upload it and tag me!
@@TheMorrogoth don't make vids
@@RyxnPlayzzdon't talk
builds good and all until you play with 2 others and get one shot anyways
If you are running with others add the burden of the divine to all builds :)
Anyone on xbox help me get tranq heart or ring of crisis
How is he able to have Regrowth trait without having summoner class equipped?
When you get a archetype to level 10 you unlock their trait
@@TeaCoZi oh dope! Appreciate it
Final boss?
Works fine on final boss just dodge on occasion!
I felt so powerful until I tried to fight certain bosses in 3 player coop. Some of them just straight up 1 shot me with a full tank build.
3 play apoc can be rough for sure! May need to focus on dodge more!
mhmm, venom with skullcracker and vicious....
Have faith in yourself, Venom can be beaten :)
Why even care about encumbrance, you don’t need to evade anything
A couple root earth bosses you need 1-2 evades :)
Last patch destroyed tank builds.
Check out my video on the hidden DR change and my new shock build!
games as deep as a puddle we really dont need seventhousand build videos given that a 'build' is just switching one or two rings around lol.
Well it was rings and archetypes stacking effects but if you dont need the video no worries! others might find it to be a perfect build for them!
Also if your looking for high dmg non tank builds, I will be working on those soon!
This was a nice build bro if you dont like it dont watch or comment on the video. This games amazing and this is a cool build from it go play the game yourself if you want to come up with your own things
Thanks! Keep crushing in the game man! Have fun!
Then stop watching the video what's the point of this comment ?
Video lacking info of where to get the items for the build. I didn't find any info for ring of crisis
Thats cause this is a build video not where to find X but I hear ya! Ring of Crisis is in Nerud, things online say the hatchery but it can show up in any part supposedly. (I didnt get mine in the hatchery)
there is a ring in n'erud which gives 1 stack of bulwark each hit taken, up to 5 stacks for 10 seconds, im using this and it also works really well. i got that ring anywhere openfield. called hardcore metal band
I used it for a bit, but doesnt help as much in bosses!
@@NottheWinnerGaming well i used it while i fougth fealin on apocalypse with your build, in 2player session. the face tank is real lol. but i did not use lifeleech as u, i dont even need it. anyway, stupidly op build xD gj!