The original proponents of this device, McLaren, had their drivers use their left knee to block the duct, directing the airflow towards the rear wing. The reason it was nicknamed the F-Duct was because it was located by the 'F' in 'Vodafone.' Why everyone else decided to make the driver use his hand when they copied it I don't know. You could say it was a prototype DRS.
True ! Other teams where using their hands because the chassis of the car doesn’t allow them to put the air flow near the driver’s knee. It was easier to design it with the air flow near the hands of the drivers.
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The control these drivers have is absolutely insane. I guess being raised in racing since childhood means you can driving a f1 with one fucking hand mid race
@Defo Not Me do they need to wrestle the car while going through eau rouge to prove they don’t have assisted driving?? Go do your homework kid, assists were banned after 1994
Agree, here in spain 2010-13 was special as we saw Alonso fighting for titles. People deemed cars ugly for those high noses but I really like them. Those noses look menacing in the onboards
these onboards are so fun to watch for all of the reasons you listed and more. The cars themselves were like 30% smaller as well leading to better racing imo.
Its not a bad invention, in fact its a quite genius trick, a sort to work around the regulations not allowing a moving aerodynamic part. But it is quite dangerous
Vettel and Kubica was so good at it because they were always driving one handed pretty much all the time. They were the only 2 that used the F-duct so proactively up to the start of a corner while others had used both hands the moment they started braking. Kobayashi too, cus that F-duct placement was horrible. Can't even see his left hand at that point
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Oh my lord these engine sounds are literally music. Last clip with Vettel in Belgium with the RB-6 full throttle going through eau rouge one handed. Just missing these masterpieces from Seb
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That's debatable. Sure it was fun to drive, but other than the long straights in the first few turns it was pretty shit, hard to pass at. Personally I think Malaysia remains one of the better ones.
They don't have a gun to their head to make them use it there, they choose to. If they don't like it then they don't have to do it. These are the best drivers in the world, to them its easy.
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I think that the F1 community got the idea of what an F-duct is after Alonso going through the final chicane at Barcelona one-handed. After that, all hell breaks loose.
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Its Amazing to see their driving basically with one hand especially when they’re fight for positions… Also is weird as Fu see Kobayashi and see he’s driving an BMW Sauber Ferrari 🤣🤣
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F1 added a brand new, state of the art facility to the calendar each year between 2009 and 2012, and it was always fascinating to see the new tracks for the first time. COTA and Yas Marina are still on the F1 calendar, but Yeongam and Buddh both hosted F1 for the final time in 2013.
Fun fact: The F-duct was first used by McLaren, and it is called like that because it was located at the F letter of Vodafone, who was their title sponsor at the time.
The original idea, made by McLaren had the drivers use the knee, which didn't "collide" with any function in the car, since both feet stayed in the same place either they used the F-Duct or not. The other teams just had to adapt what they had without compromising the crash tests. Also, since the device was banned next season, I don't think they spent that much time thinking about safety.
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If you know then why even saying it. The problem is that they have to do that with one hand while going more than 200km/h, way more dangerous than changing gears in old cars
@@ferst262 he is not wrong, the old cars were hard to drive but had different difficulties comparing to the current cars like the H gears and no power steering, remembering they did reach 330 km/h+ specially on the 80's turbo engine. Today the cars are faster on corners which causes higher g forces but the wheels are lighter and the car is safer
@@surneen and they still manage both tyres, fuel and energy deployment while going faster overall than old cars. It’s harder, but boomers won’t admit it.
It’s sad that these cars are getting old, but it’s also a good thing since it increases the chances of non-F1 games getting the licensing to feature these bad boys
I've been watching races from 2012 recently and I notice many drivers putting a hand off the wheel, although there was no f duct any more, does anyone know the reason. The only thing remotely similar to f duct I found online was Mercedes stalling the front wing when opening DRS because they had holes under the DRS flap, but that was an automatic system as far as I understood so no need for the drivers to put their hand off the wheel. The only other reason I can think off would be that they got used to it in 2010 but it wouldn't make much sense as putting your hand off the wheel only gives you less control...
do you have any videos for that? Have been watching F1 for a long time but dont remember that in 2012 and i dont remember any big "cheating/technical loophole" in 2012 concerning anything driver acutated
It ain't that special that they drive with 1 hand when you remember that they pretty much drove with 1 hand until the early 90's. Especially at street courses, they were always shifting with 1 hand and steering with the other.
@@ferst262hahahah lol 2010 & 2012 exists mate Vettel won in competitive era. Max are literally dominant for the last two season so make sure u dissed him too okay😂😂
The F Duct or how i say it The pre version of drs and if mclaren never introduce this we would have races with a handful of overtakes because its absolutely impossible to get close enough without drs hopefully this change with the 2022 cars
i dont see a problem with the f duct, if the teams could have had time to integrate it into their chasis like mclaren where you use the knee instead of the hand it would have been fine but the chasis being submitted before the season meant they couldnt really modify the tub. Also drivers have been racing one handed for decades with h pattern gear shifts so i also really dont see a problem in that regard. Imo a better solution that drs.
I think F duct was ok for the first season but would have been pointless to keep around after that. Everyone would have had a knee-operated F duct and everyone would use it in the same places on track. So it just becomes a driver annoyance for no benefit. DRS actually has a purpose to it - to undo the advantage a leading car has over a chasing car from dirty air. It's also a far stronger effect than F duct ever was.
That's a ridiculous argument. They maybe used manual gearboxes because there was no other alternatives. Just because something was done years before doesn't mean safety should get compromised now because it was OK back then. I guess we should get rid of the halo, stop making the cars out of carbon fibre and do away with helmets then?
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The original proponents of this device, McLaren, had their drivers use their left knee to block the duct, directing the airflow towards the rear wing. The reason it was nicknamed the F-Duct was because it was located by the 'F' in 'Vodafone.' Why everyone else decided to make the driver use his hand when they copied it I don't know. You could say it was a prototype DRS.
True ! Other teams where using their hands because the chassis of the car doesn’t allow them to put the air flow near the driver’s knee. It was easier to design it with the air flow near the hands of the drivers.
Because McLaren homologated their safety cell with the hole in it. The other teams didn't, so they had to punch a hole in a higher cockpit position.
I agree with you when writing it's a prototype of a DRS.
@@Spyker8921 Yep, that was it. For other teams to use the knee they would need a new chassis and homologate it.
But what was it really doing, it was flapping down the rear wing??
GigaKubica making two overtakes with one hand is a thing of beauty.
GigaKubica driving the whole 2019 season one handed is a thing of beauty too
J a r n o o p m e e r
@@manuelmunoz9666 why did he?
@@larsmooren2329 one of his hands injured in rally racing
@@manuelmunoz9666 No he wasn't. He addressed this rumor by saying he can use his hand, but it's hot garbage.
Vettel going practically onehanded, full throttle through eau rouge and blanchimont is not something i'll easily forget. Insane
130r for me
i'm also worried about that front wing flexing on those parts.. how did they allow that as well? xD
Watching some latest accidents in Eau Rouge makes you think it was very dangerous indeed
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Surprised the car was so fast when it had Vettel’s balls of steel weighing it down.
The control these drivers have is absolutely insane. I guess being raised in racing since childhood means you can driving a f1 with one fucking hand mid race
@Defo Not Me no they didn’t what are you talking about??
@Defo Not Me Wtf no they didnt have assisted driving. It aint that hard to turn that F1 Car when you have power steering
@Defo Not Me assisted steering would mean the car was helping them steer, not power steering
@Defo Not Me do they need to wrestle the car while going through eau rouge to prove they don’t have assisted driving?? Go do your homework kid, assists were banned after 1994
@@reubenashok937 Go do your homework as well kid, he obviously meant power steering.
These onboard from 2010 are both satisfying and nostalgic to watch. My favorite era of F1! :D
You must've not witnessed many eras in F1 then. 1986-1990 - now that was an era!
@@amjan that's his opinion. Everyone has different opinions. Just respect it
Agree, here in spain 2010-13 was special as we saw Alonso fighting for titles. People deemed cars ugly for those high noses but I really like them. Those noses look menacing in the onboards
not even close to being my favorite era. fun era but not even top 30 best seasons i've watched.
Absolutely agree, obviously of the eras I lived and watched
I love the look of the Bridgeston soft tyres with the green stripes
i don’t
Those are Bridgestone? I thought those were pirelli
Just watching them balloon at vmax is insane.
@@mountaingoat595 Yes, Bridgestone. Pirelli is since 2011.
I played lots of F1 2010 back in the day so these are extra nostalgic to me
Everyone always mentions Alonso..
But Vettel driving one handed up Raidillon 😯
mind blow
I know I spelled it wrong, edited LOL
Kubica driving one handed, not 1 time for 1 race, for years, every grand prix, every single lap.
@@3series35i hell yeah
Vettel doesn't need any hands to drive.
These cars were absolute stunners. Looked good sounded good and provided the best racing, even with bad inventions such as the F-duct
these onboards are so fun to watch for all of the reasons you listed and more. The cars themselves were like 30% smaller as well leading to better racing imo.
Its not a bad invention, it just the place to activate is bad.
Its not a bad invention, in fact its a quite genius trick, a sort to work around the regulations not allowing a moving aerodynamic part. But it is quite dangerous
I don't see it to me these cars were awful looking. The disproportionate front and rear wings just made them look silly.
@@randomfaca it's each to their own, this era of car is my favourite looking
Vettel and Kubica was so good at it because they were always driving one handed pretty much all the time. They were the only 2 that used the F-duct so proactively up to the start of a corner while others had used both hands the moment they started braking.
Kobayashi too, cus that F-duct placement was horrible. Can't even see his left hand at that point
Isn’t because they needed their left to down shift??
@@youtubechannel4137 While Kubica and Vettel didn't?
@@youtubechannel4137 depending on the car the paddles are actually a seesaws and you could downshift by pushing the right paddle in
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Imagine doing 300kph through 130R but one handed
Charles Leclerc did it 2 years ago
@@gianlucadorsi9781 while holding his Left mirror with his Right Hand,
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Oh my lord these engine sounds are literally music. Last clip with Vettel in Belgium with the RB-6 full throttle going through eau rouge one handed. Just missing these masterpieces from Seb
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I miss Korean Grand Prix so much. One of the best Tilke Circuit ever made.
That's debatable. Sure it was fun to drive, but other than the long straights in the first few turns it was pretty shit, hard to pass at. Personally I think Malaysia remains one of the better ones.
Loved the sound of RB6...absolutely glued to the surface!
Going through eau rouge and 130r one handed, how was the f duct ever allowed 🤯
Because F1 is based on skill. If a driver didn’t feel safe doing that; they weren’t forced to take their hands off the wheel. 🤷🏻♂️
Because people weren’t so soft. Getting worse every day
Cause you do not use the f-duct in eau rouge...you would use it in the straight after but not when you need more downforce
@@FVRS97 they did use it there and in 130R
They don't have a gun to their head to make them use it there, they choose to. If they don't like it then they don't have to do it.
These are the best drivers in the world, to them its easy.
The fact that not only are they able to sustain 4+ Gs while turning with one hand but to attack and defend as well mostly with one hand is insane.
Right! Wtf dude
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My guy Seb casually going up Raidillon one handed
You know we've grown old now when we heard these cars were modern back then at 3:33 ,man time flies by quick
I think that the F1 community got the idea of what an F-duct is after Alonso going through the final chicane at Barcelona one-handed. After that, all hell breaks loose.
not only that look at the flexible front wing 0:03
Taking Eu Rouge and 130R flat is a feat in itself, one handed is another ballgame.
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Seb the monster ! He deserves so much more respect
I guess it was good practice for Kubica.
He wasn’t driving with one Hand…
@@laugenbrezel_ was just a joke
Ahahah good one
@@laugenbrezel_ r/whoosh
Its Amazing to see their driving basically with one hand especially when they’re fight for positions…
Also is weird as Fu see Kobayashi and see he’s driving an BMW Sauber Ferrari 🤣🤣
Yeah BMW Sauber Ferrari😂
The ultimate reason for it being (briefly) allowed was because it was driver operated. If it wasn't, it would have been illegal
Yeah it wasn’t a movable aero device which would’ve made it illegal aswell because the only movable aero device that was legal was the drs system
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All F1 drivers drove one-handed until paddle shifters were implemented.
So?
Shifting takes less than a second and you aren't doing it mid corner
You don't shift mid corner though.
Is it just me or did the Renault car look good? I miss these cars so much
2:28 seb showing who is the boss
4:29
He isn’t…
The onboard camera is so much better without the halo.
Seb was a freaking mad man. Eau Rouge one-handed?
tmb I tell you you have to have balls to do that
0:23 the back of his hand know's the f-duct though lol
Mom when I drive : please be gentle and do drive quickly.
2010 F1 : 1 hand on the steering wheel while taking a curb at 300kmh.
2:34 what track is this
Korea
yeongam
F1 added a brand new, state of the art facility to the calendar each year between 2009 and 2012, and it was always fascinating to see the new tracks for the first time. COTA and Yas Marina are still on the F1 calendar, but Yeongam and Buddh both hosted F1 for the final time in 2013.
did no one but mclaren think of making it for your legs?
It wasn't possible, since only one monocoque homologation per year was allowed.
I really miss this era. The world wasn’t insane, Obama in charge, racing was awesome and the cars sounded glorious. Also the year I met my wife.
How do I watch the old onboards and races? I have the f1 tv subscription but I want to see every onboard but it’s impossible for 2010 on that app
I loved that era of cars sounded so good
Fun fact: The F-duct was first used by McLaren, and it is called like that because it was located at the F letter of Vodafone, who was their title sponsor at the time.
Peak era of F1
Is it just me or did the car at 1:39 just spawn out of nowhere?
So weird
Sharp
The video quality was bad so I had to upgrade it and distant objects appear a bit later, that’s why.
This is what DRS should have been, allowed to be open and closed at any time.
ERS is already for that purpose
Going up Raidillion one handed at +200mph...
God dang their right arms must have been super strong after the seasons this was allowed
The way they went about using it at certain parts of the track almost makes it feel like they just randomly turn on a cheat code for boosts, LMAO
0:52
Kubica practicing his driving style I see
i cant quite put my hand in it, but there is something beautiful about this.
The original idea, made by McLaren had the drivers use the knee, which didn't "collide" with any function in the car, since both feet stayed in the same place either they used the F-Duct or not.
The other teams just had to adapt what they had without compromising the crash tests. Also, since the device was banned next season, I don't think they spent that much time thinking about safety.
And you probably don't need to activate the f-duct under braking anyways
@@J.H.P Yep, you need max grip available to make that corner without spinning like a mad man.
That Red Bull was.. awesome.
Everyone except mclaren: *driving one-handed*
Fia: i sleep
Alonso: *driving one-handed*
Fia: real shit, banned
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2:42 what track was that was it's south Korea, I can't remember. I always remember really loving that track on the F1 games
Looks like a prototype of the drs that they are now using
Dangerous yeah..but remember in the past they had to switch gear (not the same speed as today I know)
If you know then why even saying it. The problem is that they have to do that with one hand while going more than 200km/h, way more dangerous than changing gears in old cars
@@F-Man classic boomer comment…
going straight with power steering is more dangerous than cruising in less safer cars with one hand?
@@ferst262 he is not wrong, the old cars were hard to drive but had different difficulties comparing to the current cars like the H gears and no power steering, remembering they did reach 330 km/h+ specially on the 80's turbo engine. Today the cars are faster on corners which causes higher g forces but the wheels are lighter and the car is safer
@@surneen and they still manage both tyres, fuel and energy deployment while going faster overall than old cars. It’s harder, but boomers won’t admit it.
It’s sad that these cars are getting old, but it’s also a good thing since it increases the chances of non-F1 games getting the licensing to feature these bad boys
I would make a game based in 2010 of f1, hadn't ea or other have the license. Soon in 2025 another studio will, hopefully they will do well..
Older drivers would be used to it tbf, 90s & early 2000s karts they had to cover the carb in braking zones
1980's cars were similarly fast, less safe and had manual transmission
No way mate, the only positive thing was that they were lighter. Otherwise incredibly rough around the edges.
Doing eau rouge/radillon one handed? Na bro, not a chance in the world I would ever do that. These guys are nuts.
Kubica was amazing this season
Glad the decided to implement drs if they out right banned it there will be at least one team that finds a work around
god the sounds those old v10’s made is orgasmic
These are v8s
very innovative and cool
This system basically let drivers using Ultimate DRS
I've been watching races from 2012 recently and I notice many drivers putting a hand off the wheel, although there was no f duct any more, does anyone know the reason. The only thing remotely similar to f duct I found online was Mercedes stalling the front wing when opening DRS because they had holes under the DRS flap, but that was an automatic system as far as I understood so no need for the drivers to put their hand off the wheel. The only other reason I can think off would be that they got used to it in 2010 but it wouldn't make much sense as putting your hand off the wheel only gives you less control...
do you have any videos for that? Have been watching F1 for a long time but dont remember that in 2012 and i dont remember any big "cheating/technical loophole" in 2012 concerning anything driver acutated
Maybe changing the brake bias?
brake bias exactly.
@@KingFishF1 like schumi in monaco! that lap was mega
@@KingFishF1 But I think in some cars you change the bias on the wheel. If not all of them
I just want 2010 back :(
where can you get these onboards?
It ain't that special that they drive with 1 hand when you remember that they pretty much drove with 1 hand until the early 90's. Especially at street courses, they were always shifting with 1 hand and steering with the other.
BMW Sauber Ferrari has the same energy as Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda
what a negligent season
The Lap for the Q3 in Suzuka 2010 by Kubica... No more to say.
Is it me or is this redbull rb6 looking much faster then other cars
They were narrower so they look faster.
They were faster, that’s why Vettel won so many championships. Just like the Mercedes dominance, it’s a car that has no competitors
@@ferst262hahahah lol 2010 & 2012 exists mate Vettel won in competitive era. Max are literally dominant for the last two season so make sure u dissed him too okay😂😂
@@zariqeezham9210 2010 and 2012 he had the fastest car and almost lost both of them…
rb6 is a monster
RB6 was great on 1 lap pace, arguably faster than the RB9 in 2013.
I never noticed the drivers used the f duct before.
Seb was literally driving with 1 hand 💀💀💀
Thats some dangerous driving
This is why Kubica was able to come back and be so successful.
Meanwhile Michael Schumacher didn't need F-Duct, he is the F-Duct !
Ok but how didn’t rob spin out at singapore in 2nd gear. Did they have TC back then? I can’t remember…
No TC in F1 since 2008
no. that was banned
The F Duct or how i say it The pre version of drs and if mclaren never introduce this we would have races with a handful of overtakes because its absolutely impossible to get close enough without drs hopefully this change with the 2022 cars
man i fucking miss the high nose v8 cars
So they’re covering a hole in the side of the cockpit? Left side?
Kubica and Vettel was the best one hand driver of that year....
Good lord that sound...
Check the 90s v10s orgasmic sounds
@@yesmate78 The Renault R25 is the best imo
What kind of involvement did BMW have in 2010? I thought they abandoned the team, basically left them for dead after ‘09
I think kubica is driving in one hand because of his accident in the rally car
This was before
Not even any Mclaren onboard :(
Because they weren’t driving on handed
Can someone please tell me what this track is called at 2:27?
This is the South Korean GP on the Korea International Circuit.
@@KingFishF1thanks man
i dont see a problem with the f duct, if the teams could have had time to integrate it into their chasis like mclaren where you use the knee instead of the hand it would have been fine but the chasis being submitted before the season meant they couldnt really modify the tub. Also drivers have been racing one handed for decades with h pattern gear shifts so i also really dont see a problem in that regard. Imo a better solution that drs.
I think F duct was ok for the first season but would have been pointless to keep around after that. Everyone would have had a knee-operated F duct and everyone would use it in the same places on track. So it just becomes a driver annoyance for no benefit.
DRS actually has a purpose to it - to undo the advantage a leading car has over a chasing car from dirty air. It's also a far stronger effect than F duct ever was.
I don't know why they complained that much, keep in mind that old f1 cars had manual shiftbox and they drove mostly single handed through monaco
That's a ridiculous argument. They maybe used manual gearboxes because there was no other alternatives. Just because something was done years before doesn't mean safety should get compromised now because it was OK back then. I guess we should get rid of the halo, stop making the cars out of carbon fibre and do away with helmets then?
How much did they gain by using it?
The grandpa of DRS
The drivers for one time doing what kubica did for years
GIGA KUBICA
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That explain how kubica still can drive with one trashed hand
Its like using drs with no limits
Never understood why it was a lever rather than a switch.
“If it’s not banned, it’s allowed” -whoever
Can someone explain me the Effort ot this?
Its not the most glamorous thing we have seen in F1: Drivers using their hands to block a hole. Thanks it was banned
You clearly have no idea what it is
2:28 what track is that?
yeongam south korea
oh the sound
can someone please explain me what the f-duct was, since i only started watching at 2016?
Changes the air flow of the car for better downforce in corners but better top speed on the straights
And it is called the f-duct because it was first seen on the mclaren car, and was located on the F of the Vodafone sponsor