Remember that in Genshin on release QiQi was considered T0, Bennett T2 and basically useless and Xiangling was only used as a physical carry. Never trust early tier lists.
yeah so? it is called better units being released later. AKA power creep? Doesn't take away from the fact that right now these units are the top for current version.
@@jokanxu7308 Xiangling, xingqiu and Bennett DID NOT NEED ANY SYNERGY FROM OTHER NEWER CHARACTERS. Its just them being overlooked in terms of kits. People thought that only the 5 star characters are viable.
@@x3dwany371 Evidently not. They put the weird hybrid healer/CC/damage buffer character in a low tier on day 1 again, but at least they bumped Jianxin up a few notches pretty quickly.
gachasmack ganggg lesgooooooooooooooooo JIANXIN FTW. wait until gachasmack learns about Kara cancelling method of jianxin, it will flip him out. i tried it, ITS SO FUCKIN GOOOD.
@@Damiemdudekara cancel is a term used by Fighting game community specifically from Guilty Gear's Potemkin which is about animation cancelling a move mid animationinto another move to do more damage.
I think one thing that doesn't get talked about with Jianxing, and it may be a slightly niche point, but in some encounters having a support that is good at parrying is actually pretty big.
I was really scratching my head day 1 why people were ranking raw DPS without considering Jianxin's utility, like the grouping is so useful and her shielding really comes in handing. Glad she's finally getting recognition.
i already see this coming since the first time i got her. the CC potential in this game and her massive ulti dmg buff on outro are good enough for me to build her and considered her as S tier character
I hope they release any additional changes for yinlin before Jiyan banner goes away. I want to know if I should just pull on Jiyan and skip Yinlin or vice versa, especially since im investing so much into calcharo, Also if the game goes the path of doing stuff like this it will be rough for F2P/dolphins since we need to plan 1-2 banners ahead.
TimaeuSS has a video on it.. but in short Calcharo loses one of the buffs he received from Yinlin... a 14 sec buff.. but there's more detail to it watch the video.
You just can't play quickswap Yinlin Calcharo anymore, but using her ult->skill->outro into his liberation fully buffed by her outro should still be considerable damage
lol I'm using her as my main dps...... I guess I suck. I don't have Danjin sadly. I guess I could try using havoc rover. I am though using Sanhau as my swap in burst dps... get her big moves off then go back to Jinxing or jincian or whatever her name is.
So I was right when I said don’t believe any of the tier list because we’re literally in the first patch, and my prediction about jianxin being top teir going forward because of her support potential was right
Always believed Jianxin is a top tier supp. Why? She provides a lot! Safety, CC, and an ult buff. The only problem is how to do her rotations effectively which is now being realized.
i've been using havoc rover+sanhua+verina reasoning behind this is -i refuse to not play at least a waifu, so jiyan+morfei is not an option -havoc rover seems to use a lot of normal attacks to me, which are the ones buffed by sanhua good to know is actually good apparently
just curious if you've ever played *any* of the devil may cry games, and if so, who was the "waifu" on your first playthrough??? also, god of war. just... curious, lol.
Im just sad taoqi gets no love from anyone. I really like her playstyle and her shield is MASSIVE, with her E and the bell she makes your character immortal for 15 seconds. Plus if you are not doing timed content she can solo anything that is not havoc immune.
@@dr.stonksakahelth5857 she will be on yinlins banner. Still, i only pulled 30 times on the promotional banner and 40 on the begginer banner (plus the free 50 pulls from the first begginer banner) and already have all of the 4 stars
Is anyone surprised Jianxin is this good? Her innate dmg reduction+Bell echo grants her 100% dmg immunity for 3 hits which is insane. not to mention a bunch of other stuff she provides the team.
maybe swap jianxin and mortefi team. I am using baizhi sanhua and jianxin, really good grouping, healing, and burts damage. Low maintenance team as you can just use those ER weaps.
I am saying so to see if i should go with jianxing or a copy of verina, i can get jianxing from the 80 guarantee, i did the 50 beginner pulls and the selector, then i gone and summoned on the 5* weapon and after that i will go with the 80 pulls guarantee.
No Yinlin is not good anymore they destroyed what made her good. Honestly if she's just DPS it won't make a difference since Cal's performance without her is exponential. Yinlin is an ez skip now
Support role, as she should have been rated on all along. Anyone who was saying oh shield, oh heal, oh blah blah. She is there to group and buff. She is not a good main dps, half her kit isn't used except to tap and swap. I wish i got her instead of the lvl 1 Calcharo in my random 5* banner.
With all the recent informations coming out about Jianxin, it really makes me want to have her... but one little problem.. I don't have Verina. So far the units I've been investing in are: Calcharo, Havoc MC, Baizhi, Lingyang, Sanhua and Taoqi. Would I make a mistake pulling for Jianxin on the garanteed banner in place of Verina...? I was going for Verina at first, but yeah, I'm hesitating now, please help!
@@lightseeder358 I mean... You could've rerolled if you got bricked. They give you 40 pulls, enough for a full novice banner ride and 26 limited pulls for that lucky Jiyan.
@@nitogame I dont like to reroll and never do it. I manage with what I have and its fine. In the long run it wont matter. I was also already invested a lot in the account once they started making it more valuable to reroll. And Lingyan is still fun to play even though he wasnt the one I wanted. I will use him as my second team. So it comes down to a choice, and I dont think my account is bricked just because I dont have Jianxin at this point.
Pryden logic - let's make a tierlist based on beta, and people come on website to check and hey everything has been changed since pryden has tested it meanwhile me - have already tested everything when game got released and hey. Discovered new meta and capabilities of characters and I'm 1 week ahead at least meanwhile others - trusted pryden, when they discovered that there are a lot better teams and characters and they not exactly wasted many resources but could have had better teams. Also let's keep in mind some people reroll on games. Here is what I know about pryden and their tierlists. Nikke - Wrong or late update Artery gear - Good HSR - wrong, late. Doesn't seem they have tested many things. Wuwa - Late so far. Solo leveling - Very late with updates. some things haven;t been updated for a month, quit the game at this point. I understand the Beta testing theory and ETC. but when you make a statement "best source of guides and etc." I expect them to be at least updating everything timely. Like to be on same page as other websites. But it seems pryden is late the most. Or at least make a huge announcement or something that this is beta test results or there are being changes made and etc so people don't get the wrong Idea.
@@machfudz3981 yeah it is hell, gotta say i've struggled more with the obstacle challenges than actually fighting bosses lmao. fighting lots of mobs is also really annoying but it's doable. i feel like autolock does almost nothing
@@hwbysi true, i skip most of shooting mini games. And there's a problem when you equip lampylumen and use its skill, the camera will switch to top view. And for the autolock, if there's a lot of mob , the autolock will lock the furthest enemy, not the closest one to you
I actually disagree with this. Personally, I put Jianxin in T0. I've been finding more uses out of her kit over Verina's, despite Verina being the more consistent healer and energy bot. Jianxin also works with so many different sets and team compositions that I'm still kinda left scratching my head as to why she's even below Verina at all...especially considering that in later tower floors, healing won't do you any good because you're dead after taking a hit so you're better off with a shielder / grouper.
@@veraoliva972 So does Jianxin, with her 38% Liberation amplify. And I'm not discounting Verina's buffs, as they're incredibly strong. But most bosses in the hologram fights will one-shot your characters, making Verina's heals/buffs pointless, if your characters are all dead. With Jianxin, however, you just won't take any damage because the shields she provides nullify the bosses attacks. It also makes it to where you can utilize Danjin without having to worry about her HP getting too low.
@@supercala332 jianxin consumed a lot of time when activating her sheild and in those time you can get killed even tho her buff is pretty strong it takes a lot of time to use
On the topic of towers, the vigor energy needs to go away... Your basically blocked and required to build and use other characters. But with limited resources its next to impossible unless your spending irl money.
support doesnt only mean healing though, like verina is a healer, but also gives you a ton of damage through the healer set and her forte circuit skills. jianxin not only shields but also groups up enemies making it easier for your dps and sub dps to mow them down. each "support" brings more than just healing esp through the echo set bonus giving an att boost to your team
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Day one Jianxin believers rise up
When i got Jianxin in day 1 i was so happy. Her style suit me very well
I got her on my novice banner pulls and now I’m glad she is really good
RISE!
Planned to get her on the standard selector day 1. I remember people were like "i wont get her, she is low tier!" 😂😂
That ahoge is too difficult to skip lol
finally people see her potential
Remember that in Genshin on release QiQi was considered T0, Bennett T2 and basically useless and Xiangling was only used as a physical carry. Never trust early tier lists.
yeah so? it is called better units being released later. AKA power creep? Doesn't take away from the fact that right now these units are the top for current version.
@@jokanxu7308 Xiangling, xingqiu and Bennett DID NOT NEED ANY SYNERGY FROM OTHER NEWER CHARACTERS.
Its just them being overlooked in terms of kits. People thought that only the 5 star characters are viable.
@@NycmanTheNicestOfMento be fair people have learned from genshin
tell me you know nothing without knowing nothing@@jokanxu7308
@@x3dwany371 Evidently not. They put the weird hybrid healer/CC/damage buffer character in a low tier on day 1 again, but at least they bumped Jianxin up a few notches pretty quickly.
Jianxin was my first 5 star, and I've been using her this whole time. Glad to see her being recognized.
Damn it turned out GachaSmack was right
gachasmack ganggg lesgooooooooooooooooo JIANXIN FTW.
wait until gachasmack learns about Kara cancelling method of jianxin, it will flip him out. i tried it, ITS SO FUCKIN GOOOD.
@@KazeKumo what is the Kara canceling?
@@KazeKumo teach us kara cancel
@@Damiemdudekara cancel is a term used by Fighting game community specifically from Guilty Gear's Potemkin which is about animation cancelling a move mid animationinto another move to do more damage.
@@KazeKumoSo how do you do it
Very good to see them getting moved up on the tier list and finally seeing their potential.
I think one thing that doesn't get talked about with Jianxing, and it may be a slightly niche point, but in some encounters having a support that is good at parrying is actually pretty big.
I was really scratching my head day 1 why people were ranking raw DPS without considering Jianxin's utility, like the grouping is so useful and her shielding really comes in handing. Glad she's finally getting recognition.
Jianxin was my 1st 5* i got from the novice banner and I ROCK WITH THISSS
i already see this coming since the first time i got her.
the CC potential in this game and her massive ulti dmg buff on outro are good enough for me to build her and considered her as S tier character
I hope they release any additional changes for yinlin before Jiyan banner goes away. I want to know if I should just pull on Jiyan and skip Yinlin or vice versa, especially since im investing so much into calcharo,
Also if the game goes the path of doing stuff like this it will be rough for F2P/dolphins since we need to plan 1-2 banners ahead.
How badly was the Yinlin and Calcharo combo nerfed? Is it bad enough that I should consider pulling for Jiyan now instead? 🤔
Same question
Same question
TimaeuSS has a video on it.. but in short Calcharo loses one of the buffs he received from Yinlin... a 14 sec buff.. but there's more detail to it watch the video.
You just can't play quickswap Yinlin Calcharo anymore, but using her ult->skill->outro into his liberation fully buffed by her outro should still be considerable damage
Pretty badly, Jiyan + Yinlin will be a better team now than Calcharo + Yinlin unironically.
lol I'm using her as my main dps...... I guess I suck. I don't have Danjin sadly. I guess I could try using havoc rover. I am though using Sanhau as my swap in burst dps... get her big moves off then go back to Jinxing or jincian or whatever her name is.
Yes, please do release the *ultimate* Jianxin guide ! 😄🙌
So I was right when I said don’t believe any of the tier list because we’re literally in the first patch, and my prediction about jianxin being top teir going forward because of her support potential was right
I got an 18* clear on hazard,maybe if I picked encore over calcharo..
Now they see her potential, I see it since CBT 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Always believed Jianxin is a top tier supp. Why? She provides a lot! Safety, CC, and an ult buff. The only problem is how to do her rotations effectively which is now being realized.
I've been using this team the whole time, and it's really good. I just need to learn the correct rotation.
Still have my 5s self select just waiting for all this to boils down
I think MC's Time slow outro will also shine in the future's tierlist.
This is huge! My first 5-stars is finally able to shine!
i've been using havoc rover+sanhua+verina
reasoning behind this is
-i refuse to not play at least a waifu, so jiyan+morfei is not an option
-havoc rover seems to use a lot of normal attacks to me, which are the ones buffed by sanhua
good to know is actually good apparently
just curious if you've ever played *any* of the devil may cry games, and if so, who was the "waifu" on your first playthrough???
also, god of war.
just... curious, lol.
@@salinalunara Sorry man, Monster Hunter Is my comfort zone
Jianxin getting the love she deserves!
Huge W
Im just sad taoqi gets no love from anyone. I really like her playstyle and her shield is MASSIVE, with her E and the bell she makes your character immortal for 15 seconds. Plus if you are not doing timed content she can solo anything that is not havoc immune.
I saw some max difficulty hologram clears with Chixia and Taoqi.
Because it's so hard to get her right now. You can only get Taoqi if you got lucky in your pulls and not get cucked by Chixia dupes
@@dr.stonksakahelth5857 she will be on yinlins banner. Still, i only pulled 30 times on the promotional banner and 40 on the begginer banner (plus the free 50 pulls from the first begginer banner) and already have all of the 4 stars
As a Jianxin si- i mean main I am quite happy to see this
I love that Quick Swap has been great w Jianxin. I much prefer this version over full time hold attack Jianxin.
Is anyone surprised Jianxin is this good? Her innate dmg reduction+Bell echo grants her 100% dmg immunity for 3 hits which is insane. not to mention a bunch of other stuff she provides the team.
Who would have thought *Jianxin* had such an *Impact* on the meta...
I wish they give her the swap cancel mechanic to her charge E kit. I am using her as a sub-dps and sub healer/supp
Jianxin is meta pogg. Now we just need to have a spot for taoqi and I can rest easily
What would the build be for a support Jianxin? Would the healer set or Energy Regen set be better?
Healer set with the heal gauntlets
I got Encore and nothing good in free 50 pull. I rerolled and got Calchiro and tons of 4S.
I am still waited with my selectors because of these moves.
Jianxin finally get some love
At first people doesn't understand her at all, even slandering Jianxin is bad. They beginning to understand them as the learned more about the game.
Jian Xin's Plunge Attack does enough hits to break the mining veins ;^)
I am currently thinking of doing a line up of 3 teams
Encore Jianxin Yangyang
Sanhua Baixi Mortefi
Danjin Havoc-rover Verina
Is this a good line-up?
maybe swap jianxin and mortefi team.
I am using baizhi sanhua and jianxin, really good grouping, healing, and burts damage. Low maintenance team as you can just use those ER weaps.
LETS GOO JIANXIN GETTING RECOGNITION SHE DERSERVVV
Is calcharo - yinlin - jianxin team viable?
or they can't work together (with the buffs and turns)
Tbh feels like dead time. It seem kuro more focused to make yinlin dps? Need see just a guess
Need to see kit but Jianxin works with Calcharo right now, just need to see if Kuro is pushing Yinlin to main but even then should be alright
I am saying so to see if i should go with jianxing or a copy of verina, i can get jianxing from the 80 guarantee, i did the 50 beginner pulls and the selector, then i gone and summoned on the 5* weapon and after that i will go with the 80 pulls guarantee.
No Yinlin is not good anymore they destroyed what made her good.
Honestly if she's just DPS it won't make a difference since Cal's performance without her is exponential.
Yinlin is an ez skip now
@@hungerxhunger2548can you explain it more? I didn't see the leaks
Well I was already planning to get her so that's good
Support role, as she should have been rated on all along. Anyone who was saying oh shield, oh heal, oh blah blah. She is there to group and buff. She is not a good main dps, half her kit isn't used except to tap and swap. I wish i got her instead of the lvl 1 Calcharo in my random 5* banner.
So glad I made my decision to get calcharo, verina, jianxin for the 3 free 5star
With all the recent informations coming out about Jianxin, it really makes me want to have her... but one little problem.. I don't have Verina.
So far the units I've been investing in are: Calcharo, Havoc MC, Baizhi, Lingyang, Sanhua and Taoqi.
Would I make a mistake pulling for Jianxin on the garanteed banner in place of Verina...?
I was going for Verina at first, but yeah, I'm hesitating now, please help!
Verina is a lot more viable, as we only have 2 dedicated healers to use on abyss.
But you had the option to get 3x5* you wanted so you could've had Calcharo, Verina and Jianxin... What happened?
@@nitogame One of those, you dont choose.
The first 5* I got was Lingyang.
Then I chose Calcharo with selector and I had the garanteed banner left.
@@lightseeder358 I mean... You could've rerolled if you got bricked. They give you 40 pulls, enough for a full novice banner ride and 26 limited pulls for that lucky Jiyan.
@@nitogame I dont like to reroll and never do it. I manage with what I have and its fine. In the long run it wont matter. I was also already invested a lot in the account once they started making it more valuable to reroll.
And Lingyan is still fun to play even though he wasnt the one I wanted.
I will use him as my second team.
So it comes down to a choice, and I dont think my account is bricked just because I dont have Jianxin at this point.
Pryden logic - let's make a tierlist based on beta, and people come on website to check and hey everything has been changed since pryden has tested it
meanwhile me - have already tested everything when game got released and hey. Discovered new meta and capabilities of characters and I'm 1 week ahead at least
meanwhile others - trusted pryden, when they discovered that there are a lot better teams and characters and they not exactly wasted many resources but could have had better teams. Also let's keep in mind some people reroll on games.
Here is what I know about pryden and their tierlists.
Nikke - Wrong or late update
Artery gear - Good
HSR - wrong, late. Doesn't seem they have tested many things.
Wuwa - Late so far.
Solo leveling - Very late with updates. some things haven;t been updated for a month, quit the game at this point.
I understand the Beta testing theory and ETC. but when you make a statement "best source of guides and etc." I expect them to be at least updating everything timely. Like to be on same page as other websites. But it seems pryden is late the most. Or at least make a huge announcement or something that this is beta test results or there are being changes made and etc so people don't get the wrong Idea.
Brb, changing my guaranteed banner from Calcharo to Jianxin (turns out my wifey is also meta now)
If u switch cancel Calcharo's DM, doesnt it mean that u also lose Jianxin's outro skill buff?
R6 Jianxin here and let me tell you, her burst dps is insane.
Wtf how much does that cost you?
This site still says that Baizhi's Outro only works for the next character, and not for the entire team. These Excel andys are laughable.
Can you please do a Verina video... I don't know what echos to give her for real.
Bell turtle skill with rejuvenating glow at 5
you give her the only echo set in the game that heals?
Lot of these characters were already S tier some y’all need to the strats
what does "hard" and "st" means in the tier?
Hard to execute combos, ST is single target
Does iOS have controller support yet? I’m excited to “get good” but playing on mobile with no controller is near impossible.
Im playing on ipad and no controller support yet. Doubt it will be added for a while 😢
Moving the camera on ipad is hell & the autolock is kinda meh
@@machfudz3981 yeah it is hell, gotta say i've struggled more with the obstacle challenges than actually fighting bosses lmao. fighting lots of mobs is also really annoying but it's doable.
i feel like autolock does almost nothing
@@hwbysi true, i skip most of shooting mini games.
And there's a problem when you equip lampylumen and use its skill, the camera will switch to top view.
And for the autolock, if there's a lot of mob , the autolock will lock the furthest enemy, not the closest one to you
Please make updated jianxin guide, support and dps and maybe include some more detail how the cn thinks shes good now
nice another CC ignore the email leaks.
This is the first lucky gacha game i ever play. Cause i have all t0 and t0.5 chars with 0 dollar spend.
Good riddance. I'm planning to get Jianxin since she is Neji. But I don't have any resources to pull her on novice selector banner.
Taoqi still being slandered when she's the Clara of the game
lingyang be crying in the corner ALONE now 🤣
do you think hmc or jianxin is better in a jiyan+verina team?
Jianxin is better in that set up since HMC is cleave and Jiyan is heavy DPS.
Mortefi is the one you want in a Jiyan team.
Yangang c6 needs to be up there
I actually disagree with this. Personally, I put Jianxin in T0. I've been finding more uses out of her kit over Verina's, despite Verina being the more consistent healer and energy bot. Jianxin also works with so many different sets and team compositions that I'm still kinda left scratching my head as to why she's even below Verina at all...especially considering that in later tower floors, healing won't do you any good because you're dead after taking a hit so you're better off with a shielder / grouper.
Verina has buff
@@veraoliva972 So does Jianxin. Jianxin also has 100% damage reduction when her shield is combined with the belly boi shield.
@@supercala332 verina buff damage and that's really good
@@veraoliva972 So does Jianxin, with her 38% Liberation amplify. And I'm not discounting Verina's buffs, as they're incredibly strong. But most bosses in the hologram fights will one-shot your characters, making Verina's heals/buffs pointless, if your characters are all dead. With Jianxin, however, you just won't take any damage because the shields she provides nullify the bosses attacks. It also makes it to where you can utilize Danjin without having to worry about her HP getting too low.
@@supercala332 jianxin consumed a lot of time when activating her sheild and in those time you can get killed even tho her buff is pretty strong it takes a lot of time to use
I got her E1 F2P btw xd didn't even do her selector
There is no bad char on WW. Build correctly all of them do the job whel done
My JX is still level 1 😂 I guess I should build her...
As a lingyang main im still coping hard
Jianxin Impact
0:47 who whaled that hard
Me 😅
thx
Jianxin, LET'S GO 😁👍🏼
I feel she can be S tier hybrid to
I don't like her looks and style but it will be useful for completing 3 teams
Rather look at her than encore
@@catalan86 Unbased take.
Encore got the drip.
@@catalan86 Funny, I was holding my selector ticket for Encore, but since I have Jiyan, Calcha, MC for DPS Jianxin looks a better option
MUH KUNG FU PANDA, LESGOOOOO
Sad people who don't have her. Time to laught at them
Check this out. Check this out. Check this out. Entire video just reads like an ad.
On the topic of towers, the vigor energy needs to go away... Your basically blocked and required to build and use other characters. But with limited resources its next to impossible unless your spending irl money.
Skill issue
Me waiting for Lingyang to rise up the tier :'>
How am I supposed to trust a tier list that has Aalto that low
he'll get moved up, just like jianxin. trust🙏
Deserved
at this point they should remove Supports. Its fucking useless when everything of interest in this game one-shot you.
Get Good
support doesnt only mean healing though, like verina is a healer, but also gives you a ton of damage through the healer set and her forte circuit skills. jianxin not only shields but also groups up enemies making it easier for your dps and sub dps to mow them down. each "support" brings more than just healing esp through the echo set bonus giving an att boost to your team
I beat level 80 mob with 3 lvl 50 characters
All I needed was a gun and use the terrain to my advantage. Get good indeed 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah... i can solo a lv 120 red boss bear with a lv 1 character so... just get good
@@LightCheck70 Except when it's timed content lol.
As support Jianxin, would Energy Gen% gauntlet more fitting than ATK?
Absolutely
The star gauntlet gives energy bonus and stat wise makes a huge difference
and lingyang still underestimated ☠️😭
He's still to high, flurry's should be lower. (Jk But not really)
It's just like Jianxin before, they don't want to try build and experiment with him so they won't be able to see how strong they are.
Lingyang bros I don't feel so good...
Meh... I still play him, I still think he is pretty good. Idc what a tier list says
Essa tier ta toda errada o cara que fez não entende do jogo e não sabe jogar,taoqii é nuito roubada
Playable Kungfu Waifus wins
Poor Lingyan xD
Jianxin on top
Believe in waifu
Danjin(((
No way 😶😭
EARLY
Jianxin change is either a massive cope or overselling by people with C6. C0 Jianxin (or even C1 in my case) is just a dps waste imo.
In fact, they put her in the opposite category of DPS…