Simple Cyclone Dust Collector ● UPDATE !
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- Here's an UPDATE on my simple dust collector! This is one of the easiest dust collectors to make and one that keeps the sawdust out of your shop vacuum cleaner. Super cheap to make and saves you money. Parts are easy to find. Prevents your filter from clogging prematurely in your shop vac. Separates the dust and debris with simple cyclone action. No fancy baffles. Plain, simple and practical. I made another version for WATER using just one pail ! ..... • How to Make ● Simple W...
NOTE: Some have said static could be an issue. When I tested this, it was on concrete and static was not an issue for me. If you are building yours on a wood stand, you may want to add a ground wire.
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IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT THE BUCKETS: I've been made aware that there are a few versions of this bucket across the US and Canada and some won't connect/mesh together well. Many of my great commenters have made me aware that Lowes buckets work just as well.
I thank this commenter @matthewolson5391 who supplied this info: "The HD buckets with “LEAKTITE” and the numbers “01453” printed on the bottom are the style buckets that will not go together. But using one of those and a green one from Menards that has “5140-1” does match up with a HD “01453”.
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● Buckets .... IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT BUCKETS: I've been made aware that there are a few versions of this bucket across the US and Canada and some won't connect/mesh together well. Many of my great commenters have made me aware that Lowes buckets work just as well.
I thank this commenter @matthewolson5391 who supplied this info: "The HD buckets with “LEAKTITE” and the numbers “01453” printed on the bottom are the style buckets that will not go together. But using one of those and a green one from Menards that has “5140-1” does match up with a HD “01453”.
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Before you run out and buy all the stuff to build one, be sure to read the important note I made about the buckets in the description under the video!
Alternate and economical way to stop the pails from collapsing. When you cut the top lip ring off the pail, save the ring, remove rough edges and when your done building the collector, push the ring down firmly on the top pail. Worked for me and only needed 2 pails. Thanks Chris.
Great tip!
Any suggestions for uncollapsing the buckets?!
@@jenniepost7837 Can you blow into it? Can you hook the hose from the shop vac into the exhaust hole [making it a bloser] and c a r e f u l l y blow the walls out?
I have one additional upgrade I would like to suggest. After filling the bottom outer bucket with the weight of your choice (I do not recommend water) screw the two bottom buckets together using 4 screws at opposite sides. Then screw the two top buckets together in the same manner. Next find and screw a couple "L" brackets to the very bottom of the collector so it can be held down to the floor with your feet. Then screw two handles to the top buckets on opposite sides. Now you can easily separate the two halves when it's time to empty.
Now that's problem solving in almost real time. All for under 10 bucks. Brilliant
Shawn Stuart well, yes and no. The buckets are $5.25 a pop in my neck of the woods. A duststopper from HD is $25...
@@Mikemartin968 not sure if you saw it on sale or they make different models, but as of 4/3/2020 (month after your post) HD is selling the duststopper for $41.97 (according to HD website..in store $ different?)
@@seans9841 Plus you still need at least one bucket. ;)
Who doesnt have multiple buckets hanging around?
Lowe's are $4 Harbor Freight sells buckets too
That hook blade in the oscillating saw is an awesome tip! Brilliantly simple! Thanks for sharing.
I made the original last week and wanted to see if I had the issues these modifications fix. Mine never tipped, but my vac constantly crushed both buckets. Added these mods and I vacuumed 10 gallons of sawdust today without one collapse. I'm going to design this into a rolling cart with my vacuum now. This is such a simple, affordable solution. Thank you!
That's great!!
Never thought of putting a hook blade in a reciprocating saw - genius!
And it works really well too!
Thats not a recip saw... 🙄😏
Chris, GREAT project idea. I built it and it worked fine but I did have the tippyness and bucket collapse issues (although it still worked fine). I've just incorporated your update suggestions and... Good to go! Thanks.
To all viewers: Don't even think about buying a dust cyclone of any sort. This works every bit as well and costs almost nothing. You may even have some or all of the parts laying around.
I improved the original version by cutting a 10" circle of 1/2" plywood and glued it to the outside bottom of the top bucket then drilled the holes. The adaptors and fittings are now very tight, and the bottom of the top bucket no longer cracks. I just now set the whole thing in an extra bucket with a large rock in it ala this video and no more tipping, and no more bucket crunching. With the plywood on the top bucket it never did crunch. Only the bottom did. Thanks for your clear common sense solutions.
Cleaning the dust bag is a most odious task, depending on what you have sucked up! Thanks Notap.
I just built my dust cyclone off your video and it works great! Made a few other mods, used 2" instead of 1.5" fittings, added a 7 " wide piece of 1/2 plywood to the bottom of my shop vac sticking out the back about 12 ", screwed the lowest bucket to the plywood, the bucket that collects the dust goes inside this lowest bucket. The shop vac is portable with wheels of course and now the dust cyclone just tags along. behind . Thanks for the great ideas Chris.
would love to see a how to video for that
Aw man, I just finished building mine from the original video! Might as well go back and make the mods now. Thanks for the update!!!
You may not need the mod. Some vacuums are a bit stronger than others.
Haha- I also just completed mine today, but I ceiling mounted mine with ready rod next to the central VAC. Now I have to go back and do this mod.
Me too! Haven’t even collected dust yet.
After watching your original video I built your exact one and it works great on my shop vac. I intend to use it permanently on my house central vac system so I’ll be doing this upgrade too. Excellent update thank you!
Love this guy Speaks clearly,makes sense,very practical person.
Thanks for that feedback!
Yup I built this today before seeing the updates. Will have to do a couple mods! Was thinking of just using construction adhesive to glue a couple bricks on the bottom to weight it. But I might as well just add another bucket and prevent the possible collapse issue too. Thanks for the update, Chris!
Love how simple this fix was, use what is cost effective and available :) No need to over complicate things!
I live in an apartment, I have had to select my tools for portability. Your dust collection system is the best I have seen so far to fit my conditions. I will have to buy it a piece at a time, but it will come in handy for several uses, especially when another upstairs water heater gets broken.
Thanks, Chris
Who says common sense is not so common...oh wait..it took a video to put the light on in my head! Thanks - that was an excellent update.
Awesome updates, dust collector works great and these hacks will make it even better
Love it! I still have to pick up another bucket (or two), but I was really impressed with how well it works. For now I just tied the buckets to an old cabinet to prevent it from falling over, but still have to be careful not to clog it up, or you know what happens...but still very happy...thanks, Chris
Great fixes! I have learned so much from you, thanks Chris.
Thank you for sharing this and the wet vac videos, it's exactly what I was looking for! I may try and design an adapter to hook multiple vacuum hoses in at once to accompany everything in the garage, but I can't thank you enough for sharing this. Building it this weekend!
Thank-you, thank-you for the updates and the central vacuum idea, it does pull stronger than my shop vac.
I really like straightforward fixes that actually work. Thanks
I screwed down the part I cut out of the second bucket to a movers dolly. The whole thing sits right on it!
Very awesome! Smart guy for sure there Chris! Thanks for letting me know about the update too!
Recently made the collector and shortly after it started collapsing and tipping over. Saw this vid and it worked. I used some leftover sand for weight. Absolutely love this design
That's great!!
Wet the sand it will be heaver...
Buying 1 extra bucket 5 bucks, Buying 2 extra buckets and a brick 50 bucks!!!!!!, Watching Simple Cyclone Dust Collector collapse ......... Priceless!!!!!!
Great Video.
Thank you so much for this video. I made this today and there is such a tremendous difference in dust collection in my shop now.
You are so welcome!
This is super slick!
25 years ago I did something very similar with two full sized metal trashcans for my central dust collection system, but I have the filter inside the upper can.
Emptying the shop vac is a bit of a pain, and messy. This looks so much easier!
Better every day, thanks so much for sharing your precious knowledge !!
Glad you enjoy it!
Thank you so much my guy. I just got the parts yesterday and completed it today. You saved me $109.97. Works just like yours.
Nice work!
I built this and it works great for me. When I use it with my DeWalt 9-gallon shop vac and planer, I found that the planer's air pressure pulls the buckets apart. To solve the problem, I drilled four slots around the two bucket rims and passed a velcro strap through to keep them together. It works great. Thanks again.
Plastic buckets collapse under partial vacuum because the walls are too thin. The Home Depot's "Homer" buckets have 70 mil wall thickness, as do the buckets sold in most hardware stores and home improvement centers. I found the best way to solve the problem was to use buckets with 90 mil wall thickness. Most hardware stores don't carry them, but if you check local businesses that get material deliveries in 5-gallon or 6-gallon buckets, chances are they'll have 90 mil walls. You may also be able to mail-order them.
CertainTeed premixed buckets of drywall mud are about twice as thick as the HD buckets. I buy a few just for the buckets, then buy boxed mud after so i have the better thicker buckets to mix in.
Just made this with the fixes, works awesome, thank you for creating the fantastic tutorials. Cheers Dan.
I did your first project and worked fine. I faced the same issue when the painting tape blocked it. Not this I wanted to post to ask a solution and you already posted it.
Thanks so much.
I used two homer buckets as the bottom of my shopvac... mine fit perfectly then i used the actual bottom with wider base and wheels to hold the collection container.. doesn't tip gives strength for collapse and i can wheel it around. Thanks for the awesome tutorial
Man! You are brillient!
Easy builds effective communication and excellent and fun camerapositioning!
Thanks for the tips!
Wow! Thanks for that great feedback!
I fabricated one this past week and it works great. Thank you.
Chris, I made a dust collector for my shop vac using your design. It works fantastic! Thanks very much!
Fantastic!
this has got to be the simplest of dust collector that work , and the update make it better , thank you
Glad to help!
Love the continuous improvement concept. 👍👍👍👍
Thanks, the second bucket fixed the collapsing. I was about ready to throw the whole thing out.
Coolest “in bucket” video cam. EVER. Great real-world solutions! I’m hooked/subscribed.
Welcome!
Absoulutely BRILLIANT, again :-) Great solutions, especially the anti-tip.
Thanks for the update! I put the thing to the test yesterday and was wondering about the bucket collapse. I’ll get some more buckets, ‘cause otherwise it worked great. Awesome.
Great upgrade Chris.
Thanks for sharing.
This makes a great design even greater 👍👍👍
finally a use for all those extra HD buckets I bought to shlep plaster and lath out of my old house...great update Thanks!
Third! Thanks for the update Chris!
Edit: just watched, nice editing and camera work!
Dude's a practical genius.
I'm a legend in my own mind! Lol! Thanks!
Thank you for this. I ended up doing this before you commented on the other video. Super cool. You got my subscription. Now I just have to put a filtering the bucket as I'm getting to much stuff into my shop vac
Awesome update, Chris! Sand in the bottom works good, too. Thanks for the video....
I forgot about using sand! Yes! Thanks.
I JUST made mine. Works great. Didn't know about the collapse bit.
Great job on the update. Glad to see you fixed both problems for just a few more dollars.
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the update AND especially for all the easy fixes!
Glad to help!
I have had BROWN lung from sawdust, back in 1980 or so. We were working at the Army base Craft shop in Stuttgart Germany and did not have a good filtering system.
On my Chris Notap's design I used 4 buckets. One with a lid upside down but cut 5 inches off the bottom. I then filled it, lid down, with wet cement 1 inch higher than the level of the 2nd bucket when pushed down in to it. Put a contractor trash bag over #2 bucket and shoved #2 bucket down, pushing the cement up the sides a little, the sheeting kept the cement off #2 bucket. Let the cement cure for 2 days. Removed the trash bag.
Bucket #3 I did the PVC piping but put 2 90 degree elbows so the hoses were coming out sideways. #4 bucket was cut like Chris Notap's UPDATED version* to slide over #3 to make it so it could not suck in.
The added weight of concrete and the hoses going 90 degrees keeps it from tipping easier.
Got some routing to do tomorrow, found your 1st vid, great vid, then found this 5 min later, off to the DIY shop tomorrow :-)
cant say how glad i was to find a part 2 in my feed! lol
Just discovered your channel. This is a great upgrade to the vac. Also gives me a place to get rid of my Fe wheel weights I cull out of the lead weights I use for casting sinkers and bullits. Earned a new subscriber!
Welcome aboard!
Great video, built my dust collection cyclone based on this design, and it's perfect.
Great to hear!
You solve problems with the greatest and cheapest ways. Thanks!
I try to find the easiest and cheapest method in al my videos. Thanks.
You are THE MAN. Not only is your initial design better than the others I've seen (for some a maker would be saving time & money by NOT making them and buying retail), but adding these updates shows you view criticism as learning opportunities. Very adult. And that you actually care about what you. 4 buckets instead of two is a drastic increase in materials (by my calculations nearly 100% more in buckets alone) but still manageable considering the cost of commercial units. All that said, how come the sawdust doesn't just come rushing out the hole the shop-vac is connected to? It seems like quantum mechanics, operation at a distance, but the opposite: particles know to not interact with each other.
Genius! very affordable and effective fix.
Thanks for the update Chris.
Not realizing it also prevented collapse, I used a 3rd bucket mounted to a shelf to get it off the floor while still allowing portability. I couldn't be happier with how well this separator works. Pays for itself by skipping just one filter cartridge swap.
Thanks!
No problem with top bucket?
@@jackiepousson8497 None at all. Don't know if it makes much difference but I used Lowes buckets. I imagine if I used it as a shop vac and the nozzle sucked flat against a surface, the top bucket might buckle...but I hook this up to my table saw, router bench and band saw so that situation is impossible.
Chris I just built your dust collector based on the original video. I used it for the first time yesterday and I don't understand why I didn't do this 20 years ago. Works great. Thanks for the update I'm going to get another bucket and put a brick in it so I don't have the tip over problem. I put both the vacuum and the bucket on a shelf with casters and now it rolls around the shop nicely. I didn't have two home Depot buckets so I used another bucket until I can get the proper one.
That is awesome!
Real simple genius and great acumen Perfect product all we need now is to add mobility to it
Awesome update. Thanks a bunch.
I don't need the cyclone feature. But you have given me some great ideas for a 'pre-filter' for my shop vac, using a vacuum cleaner bag inside a 5 gallon bucket...
Thumbs up. Brilliant solution. Thanks for sharing this DIY dust collector. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Awesome! Such simple, effective solutions. Elegant!
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent series! I was looking for an easy to do kit for this. I'm thinking of adding wheels to mine. I will make this! Frank
Glad it was helpful!
Thats was cooler than your first video. Im sharing it. Thanks for notifying me of the update. It takes a certain Kind of sense to think like that. Ive been watching videos for years and noone has ever hit my comment on a previous video and asked me to watch their next video. Well played.
Thanks for that great feedback!
Thank you for your 2 videos, well done. Easy to put together system. To make the shop vac and dust collector system movable I went to Lowe's and bought a wheeled wood furniture moving dolly. Placed a piece of plywood on the top of the dolly and screwed the second bottom bucket of the dust collector to the dolly. Your system will not tip over and you can lift up the system from the bottom bucket easily to empty dust from the pail. Not sure if I want to screw the shop vac to the plywood or just let it sit on the plywood loose.
Troubleshooting the teething troubles shows dedication............... or stubbornness.😁
Thanks for the heads-up on Part II.
No problem 👍
Great video, finished my dust separator and it works great!
Great to hear!
Chris, thx again for a great practical idea.
Just finished making a dust collector. Powered first test with a 2.5 gallon Shopvac with about a half full collector bag in it. I'm am impressed no end. Also used the hook carpet blade in oscillating saw...wowsers. Canadian Ingenuity at it's best.
Thanks for that!
Thank you for the update and upgrades 😎 Great work!
Thanks!
Awesome!!
I have a bunch of ~5KG PVC weight plates lying around which would be perfect as a counterweight.
That's a great idea!
Twice in the last year here, Harbor Freight has had a bucket as their "free item with purchase." On special occasions.
People in the paint business throw away those 5gal paint buckets almost everyday, you can get a lot of them for free. Cleaning them will be the messy part.
Car shops and mechanics often buy degreaser in 5gal buckets, they use it a lot for cleaning motor parts and other stuff. I have used those buckets and they are a little stronger than others. Car shops in your area may have some to throw away.
Restaurants like asian food ones, bakeries and pastry shops buy a lot of their ingredients in 3gal and 5gal buckets. I have a store near that buys the sugar and egg whites in those buckets and throw them away almost daily. The only disadvantage is that some of these buckets have thinner walls compared to other ones. Also the cleaning process can be a little messy.
It's been years since I last bought a bucket. It's just a matter of searching around.
Nice tips, I made one of these and it works great.
you just keep bringing more and more value to humanity. fantastic update!
And the way you disseminate information is remarkable.
Wow, thank you!
Got to hand it to you.you did it again this is the spitfire of all home made dust collector's great work.ill be watching lol.
Chris, you da man! I made the dust separator and it works exactly as you said!
FANTASTIC! Love the opening!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for all you do! I built one of these based on your previous video. I'm trying to build this on a platform that rolls. Any thoughts or suggestions?
I'd love to see what you come up with for your cart! Send me a snap if you want to chrisnotap@gmail.com
amazing! great job. great camera work! lovely ideas! thank you so much!!! I am now subscribed
Thanks for subbing!
I just watched the other video today and bought the parts. Just saw this one now I need to drive back into the city to get two more buckets lol.
You snapped man! Subscribed!!!! Great 2 videos for this dust collector
Thanks for the sub!
That very interesting. I’m amazed by the fix considering the extra buckets don’t physically change anything about the internal volume and yet it works!
Here's the secret: When the bucket collapses, its diameter decreases in the collapse direction, but _increases_ in the other direction. (Try squeezing a hula hoop.) The outer bucket prevents the inner bucket from expanding in that direction, thus maintaining the integrity and strength of the circle shape. It simply cannot collapse (as long as you maintain IRL conditions).
Again, thanks and God bless you.
Super simple and effective! Great video!
Glad you liked it!
Simple but effective corrections. The bottom weighting reminds me of a toy advert jingle "🎵weebles wobble but they won't fall down🎶🎵"
That will buff right out with more buckets....nice fix!
I built it and it works. Thanks
I wanted to "see" how much was in my dust collector. I originally tried a regular (old, used) Homer bucket for the 'top' piece, and an HDX translucent bucket for the bottom so I could see how full it was getting. COULD NOT get the 2 to fit together, no matter how much I scraped on the 'top' piece. Gave up and just used 2 Homer buckets, and ended up with the top (used) Homer bucket simply collapsing. Temporarily fixed that with Flex tape, but winter is coming on, and I doubt the rest of the old, used Homer bucket will live through that.
Bought another HDX translucent bucket, and retried. Things fit PERFECTLY now. My lesson was you probably have to have 2 IDENTICAL BUCKETS.
I had already built a "cart' which holds my (olde) Shop Vac (16 gallon) and the dust collector, a 20 foot hose from Home Depot, and all my attachments.
Will rebuild things and will definitely use Jack Strange's idea of using a circle of plywood, probably on both buckets..
I made this last week and actually just built a cart to hold shop vac below and buckets above. Also used PVC between shop vac and bucket. A board with a half cut circle slid into the notch on bottom bucket
Thank you, good complementary video!
Yup, you made a point 💪 👍
Btw, better using gravel (or a pour of concrete) than plain water, you know, you are still using electric power 😉
How about a round steel plate larger than the bottom of the bucket?
I wish you were my neighbor ♥️ your so smart, I had to think a good 30 seconds before I could work out how the top over bucket was able to prevent the collapse of the wall.... Then 💡Just genius 😀