You're absolutely correct. People who advocate for Chiefs great stature to Sundowns base their argument on fanbase which doesn't win Championships. Downs on the other hand is known internationally based on their on field exploits, continental cup accumulation and extinct style of play
This what surprises me,How did Chiefs become such a big brand when they were all formed in 1970...And till this day they still have 57 fans...Doesn't make sense,What Chiefs was doing that Sundowns wasn't doing?
Chiefs had money and could buy the best players than any team, win best sponsorships, afford expensive branding and marketing and influence referees as seen in the Rothmans cup. Now Downs is affording all that and winning not only Cups but continental dominance and a rapidly growing fanbase which win soon turn 57 to 57 million.
@mosesmazibuko5038 Lies....Chiefs was developing most of their players....Sundowns had best players even when Chiefs was doing the most...All three teams had best players....Sundowns will rapidly grow just to maintain being the third biggest team it's okay.
South Africans in general are a loyal bunch just like in politics. Yes Sundowns is taking the young fans primary special and high school. The next generation of South African foot ball fans will be towards Sundowns.
A form team is not necessarily the biggest.Just look what happened at Chelsea in England when the Russian left the club. Billionaires are like politicians.Any change in politics may affect their fortune.
Chiefs won lot of cups but most of these cups were during apartheid era,which i really dnt understand if is there anything as a country we can recognis in sport during 80's,90' While others were fighting for freedom,others were given freedom impimpi.
As which one is bigger or greater it's up one's observation, Please separate achievements and greatness My opinion is chiefs undoubtedly greater sundowns has greatly achieved by today's standards As for chiefs greatness even being a silent freedom fighter in the apartheid era therefore I rest my case In the greatness also note how much chiefs contributed to the revamp of Orlando pirates during hard times for the buccaneers
Actually sundowns was founder by Zola Mahobe with money allegedly, fraudulently sourced from standard bank rsa I'm born 1963, i opened my eyes to know of Orlando pirates, kaiser chiefs moroka swallows and others kodwa ke sundowns is younger than chiefs
Its bcz you started to follow soccer year 2000 when you call a team is big you talk about heritage sundowns is best team not big and yet chiefs got more league tittle than sundowns
To win and to be big brand are not the same.That is your opinion which is a lie.Supporters base there is no team that can beat Kaizer Chiefs.Sponsorship attraction there is no match for Chiefs .Signing every player that eants Chirfs so as to weaken the opposition doesnt make Sundoens big.in South Afria big clunc 1.Chiefs 2,Pirates 3.Bloemfotein Celtic/ Royal AM).Supporters draw Card)Sundowns is a copy cat of Chiefs.
You partially right but the only thing is that "you are emotionally" n that what spoiled your statement,state the facts don't tarnish because you overreaching.
But chips did the same thing when they were winning everything in the ninety's most of the players they had back then we're from jomo cosmos fc and other clubs chips fc to thrived of quality players so don't cry when Sundowns does the same today 🎉
You're absolutely correct. People who advocate for Chiefs great stature to Sundowns base their argument on fanbase which doesn't win Championships. Downs on the other hand is known internationally based on their on field exploits, continental cup accumulation and extinct style of play
You are talking nonsensical
This what surprises me,How did Chiefs become such a big brand when they were all formed in 1970...And till this day they still have 57 fans...Doesn't make sense,What Chiefs was doing that Sundowns wasn't doing?
No Sundowns is not big team is best team.
Konke okudliwe isikhonyane kubuya kuphindiwe, if those are not yours bring them back, God loves us all. Crime doesn't pay your time is up😂
Chiefs is a big team that is off-form dats it😂danko
Chiefs had money and could buy the best players than any team, win best sponsorships, afford expensive branding and marketing and influence referees as seen in the Rothmans cup. Now Downs is affording all that and winning not only Cups but continental dominance and a rapidly growing fanbase which win soon turn 57 to 57 million.
@mosesmazibuko5038 Lies....Chiefs was developing most of their players....Sundowns had best players even when Chiefs was doing the most...All three teams had best players....Sundowns will rapidly grow just to maintain being the third biggest team it's okay.
Things are changing & that's it. In the next 20 to 50 years Sundowns will have a bigger fan base than both Chiefs & Pirates put together
Absolutely
South Africans in general are a loyal bunch just like in politics.
Yes Sundowns is taking the young fans primary special and high school. The next generation of South African foot ball fans will be towards Sundowns.
Never, Chiefs will always a big team with everything in SA ,, more fans , cups , with everything,, now is 2024/25 season let's see... ❤ Khosi Nation
No question about it, crystal.
Spot on.apart from that sundowns have two champions leagues from the woman's team and chiefs have zero team.
True
I agree sundown is bigger than chiefs even if you ask new generation the know sundown in Africa they know sundown even neima ,dj Khaled knows sundown
True my brother
Well said
A form team is not necessarily the biggest.Just look what happened at Chelsea in England when the Russian left the club. Billionaires are like politicians.Any change in politics may affect their fortune.
Sure
Ooh ok we didn't know let's hope so maybe it will happen one day😊
Ya I'm not sure of axact year for sundowns but very sure it's not 1970
Sport on
Chiefs won lot of cups but most of these cups were during apartheid era,which i really dnt understand if is there anything as a country we can recognis in sport during 80's,90'
While others were fighting for freedom,others were given freedom impimpi.
As which one is bigger or greater it's up one's observation,
Please separate achievements and greatness
My opinion is chiefs undoubtedly greater sundowns has greatly achieved by today's standards
As for chiefs greatness even being a silent freedom fighter in the apartheid era therefore I rest my case
In the greatness also note how much chiefs contributed to the revamp of Orlando pirates during hard times for the buccaneers
Manje bowufuna senzeni?
As you mentioned initially majority of soccer fans in SA are KC ofwhich they like your statement even if they know that it's true truth
Actually sundowns was founder by Zola Mahobe with money allegedly, fraudulently sourced from standard bank rsa
I'm born 1963, i opened my eyes to know of Orlando pirates, kaiser chiefs moroka swallows and others kodwa ke sundowns is younger than chiefs
More successful, but bigger? wheres the HERITAGE!
Its bcz you started to follow soccer year 2000 when you call a team is big you talk about heritage sundowns is best team not big and yet chiefs got more league tittle than sundowns
What does your heritage tell you about the two clubs ?
Don't lie on a public platform
Pre PSL or post psl era Sundowns has more premier League title
How many league titles belong to Chiefs?
Steady with English cowboy what is heritage? There's not a single team without heritage
Its True Sundowns is bigger than chiefs
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Keep supporting your team bra and leave Chiefs alone.You use Chiefs to get attention, sit down foza.
To win and to be big brand are not the same.That is your opinion which is a lie.Supporters base there is no team that can beat Kaizer Chiefs.Sponsorship attraction there is no match for Chiefs .Signing every player that eants Chirfs so as to weaken the opposition doesnt make Sundoens big.in South Afria big clunc 1.Chiefs 2,Pirates 3.Bloemfotein Celtic/ Royal AM).Supporters draw Card)Sundowns is a copy cat of Chiefs.
You partially right but the only thing is that "you are emotionally" n that what spoiled your statement,state the facts don't tarnish because you overreaching.
But chips did the same thing when they were winning everything in the ninety's most of the players they had back then we're from jomo cosmos fc and other clubs chips fc to thrived of quality players so don't cry when Sundowns does the same today 🎉
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Another dumb comment
Another dumb comment
Don't be emotional.