AV is now blessed with what AWTD is blessed with. A loyal small community. That means they can focus on what they want to instead of having to appeal to mass audiences (who are no longer here, thank god). That also means they can expand into more niche series, thereby adding more creative units.
anime vanguards is better than anime adventures in terms of quality, but not in marketing. when anime vanguards release diavolo people kept complaining, but when anime adventures makes a unit that’s 4 times rarer people suck it up. braindead kids who’s loyal to AA is the key of it’s success, where AV kept dealing with this dogshit barking community 😅 “there’s more stuff to grind in AA” maybe cuz the game has been out longer? AV has horrible update schedule but the game is objectively better
how can something be objectively better when your entire statement is subjective? the only reason that AV was such a big hit in the first place was because AA got taken down. It left people with a metaphorical void that AV was able to fill because of their similarities. in fact that’s the reason that any of these tower defense games thrived, people were stuck looking for a replacement so they endured these cheap knockoffs. it’s hardly a surprise that these tower defense games all fell off after AA’s release, people got back the thing they sought to replace, it’s that simple.
av on release had barely any myhtics compare that to when anime adventures released and how there was barely any content people got fed up and dropped it
Will they be at the top again? Only if AA manages to mess up BADLY somehow Can they make a comeback? Yes, but it will heavily depend on the next few patches on what the future will look for them.
I really don’t see aa dying or dipping in players because the people that play it won’t leave it no matter how bad the updates are like the Christmas update sucked ass yet people still played it won't
@@Unbuck-n2bI remember aa only having 40k active players maximum which is A peaceful era of the game for (me ofc dk about others) and less drama. Maybe drama started due to the increase of players or aa is just really lacking what other td games have?
AV really, really needs to quit doing '.5' updates. Content size aside, it's just fundamentally lamer to get a ping only to see a half update. Heard mentality is real, and AV's public perception is already that of a game drowning in delays and small, infrequent updates. All these small updates half-baked half-updates do is perpetuate that perception like, i knew that game was cooked the moment i saw a '.75 update'
One of my main gripes with AV is its finite amount of rerolls available. I’m a fairly new player to the game and quickly noticed that all the raid shops and different versions of it such as cursed fingers don’t ever reset and once you buy all of them then they never reset.
I disagree with this, and honestly I think I'd go as far as to say the game offers *too* many rerolls sometimes such as with the Dan Da Dan Event Shop having 200 Rerolls in stock. I've gotten Mythic traits on at least 20 different Units by now as a F2P player and I've also been able to confidently roll off of traits like Solar or Deadeye to go for rarer traits instead. The game is also super easy too, you can solo almost anything by just spamming all your placements down no traits required. There are other ways to get rerolls too such as the Daily Challenges (and occasional Half-Hourly Challenge), Tournament Mode, Paragon Mode, and Unit Achievements. Unless you're grinding 24/7 and have managed to obtain every reward the game has to offer there will always be other avenues to get rerolls before they release another update that offers even more rerolls to grind for.
@@Evan-dh5sd I do agree with your comment but I think it's rather subjective. There is a PLETHERA of ways to get rerolls but not everyone has the same luck, you can use 300 rerolls, and even though with that many there is still a chance you get no mythic trait. To someone that has no mythic traits it would seem like they don't give a lot, but to someone that has a lot and doesn't need to spend as much it would seem like they are too generous. Unfortunately that's just the aspect of gambling and it's very hard for devs to balance "luck" which is why I think they made getting good traits unnecessary for normal average gameplay. I'd say the only thing you maybe need a good trait for is Tournaments obv, high stages of inf/paragon, and SOME raids.
they do reset they literally did reset the raid shops in update 2.0 and theyre gonna reset the boss rush shops again when they drop in the upcoming update
They reset the raid shop at 2.0 and igris boss rush reward in 1.1 And probably will reset again in the future if there is a new thing coming for raid or boss rush
I love AV and want to play it. I like how high quality it is and that new dragon ball character animation looks dope. ❤ The only thing about AV is the fact it gets so dry so quickly. I have completed every update they have pushed in a day or so. Rn I’m still grinding this damn Christmas update in AA. 😭 Anyways Pery if your reading this make content on whatever you want and even if it’s not everyday I’m sure I’ll still love it, keep up the good work. 👍
Honestly I felt betrayed by AV. They said that update 2.0 would be the BIGGEST update yet. They advertised it like it was gonna be this grand thing. Yet it felt barely bigger than the other updates. And i personally got more enjoyment out of the dandadan update.
On the roblox dev forum roblox has announced that they will take action against automated farming. Depending on how they do, botting could become nonexistent. Maybe even macroing. That will probably kill all TDs.
Good, that would force people to play the games and stop the glaze which would also lead to more criticism which would maybe lead to atd games improving with more qol. Also macroing is just stupid and lazy, why even play a game if you are just going to macro it?
It’s most likely for bots marcoing is screen recording, so it’s a huge doubt, and bots use actual exploits which even wit Hyperion Roblox can still not for their life patch
@@SimmeBooga so if it’s like vc moderation then it will be buns, got it And I’m pretty sure Roblox won’t fully go in with that idea ,a lot of games would have to change especially the idea with afk worlds and like I said, Roblox isn’t really known for well.. doing good decisions
@@GWw2-jq2dx yes, that’s why I said depending on how they do. But investors are putting pressure on roblox because of the amount of bots, so something will be done.
I feel like aa really takes advantage of how we want what we cant get. We get what we want from all these td games like qol but aa doesn’t care how much we beg for a qol so people just give up and people just suck it up and glaze them cause they cant control aa as much as the other td
It’s definitely fatigue. I took for 1 month break from all anime tower defense games and came back to play aa and had the worst time ever (mainly because aa is 0 quality of life p2w slop) and after I stopped playing aa I kept up that 1 month streak until I played av and realised how good it is and now I’m back to playing anime tower defense games and only av because the rest are ass
a pretty big issue for me is the banner, in no other game have I seen the banner be so insanely inconsistent. when I load into an update and drop 60k gems on the FEATURED units and I get 12 guys off banner and 1 guy off to the side, it just makes me wanna leave
Im happy the game is able to have core foundations with a smaller group now that they dont have the masses jumping down their throats the second they release an update. Hope for the best for them tbh and sidenote what is the game in the background?
Most people I talk to agree AV is objectively a better game than AA (those same people still play AA more than AV because of what I'm about to say next) but AA is way more popular because of how much more content it has for new players and how many hours the returning players have sank into AA not to mention the robux they've sank and hype behind the returning former goat of Anime td games
@HoangTrangTuanKiet AV is literally getting less than 10k CCU while AA is hovering at over 100K. Atp there isn't much else AA can do to take the remaining AV players.
would like to see a series such as "does it live up to the hype" going over td game updates or other big games releasing where you do a 10 minute testing of games to show them off and giving your honest opinions on whether there worth trying or not like the SpongeBob td vid but more edited
In my opinion AV is probably not gonna make a huge comeback and become the 2nd best Anime TD game because it is just too similar to AA, I do think that it is better than anime reborn and ALS and has more potential than both of them but they are so different to AA that they are still surviving pretty well even though AA is back but AV doesnt really have those distinguishing factors from it to make it so much more different than AA unlike Anime Reborn and ALS
@@mateo_3731 I'm not glazing AA I'm not trying to side with any particular game but to me AV seems like it copies a lot more from AA than the other two games I listed do and because so many people have dedicated time into AA they are going to play that over AV which is reasonable, and I don't think AA is perfect by any means because it lacks so much QOL but once they inevitably do add that QOL AV wont really have much on AA
people need to accept one thing as well: If AA wasn't taken down, AV wouldn't be what it is, heck it probably wouldn't even exist. I stopped playing Anime tower defense games after AA's deletion because I honestly just realized a lot of games just rode on the train, a spot needed to be filled and AV did it, most of their playerbase was people looking a way to play an anime tower defense while AA was gone
i really like and thinks that the best td right now is AV the only main issue is that the updates it takes so long if they are taking that long for the update i wish they'd make the update super time consuming enough that it takes you next update to finish. you guys know that feeling if you played AA right it takes week for a single unit to be Evolved. because i think why the player count is so low is that since to evo the units is so easy then after that like why grind the game when you alr evoed everything probably why only first week of update is about 20k+
Heres bullet points on what needs to happen for AV to be the top TD, Update cycle is much faster (I'm talking biweekly or monthly), Trading needs to pop out this update, the promises made need to start being fufilled, no more bs 1.10121031 updates. And heres what AA needs to do to ensure AV wins back first, ignore community critisicism and just only listen to the glaze because lets be honest theres glaze, never add 2x or atleast improve the game speed in general, ignore quality of life, dont admit that they have been very shady in regards to promises (deleting the main announcment channel which contained the whole 'We have been working tirelessly to ensure that this is up to standard with current games and then they just did nothing...), not ban bot accounts at all (i mean seriously man there are SO many bots in AA rn I think realistically its got probably 20-30k reals at any given time. I think if all of that happens, AV has a very good shot at being top TD
anime vanguards is already top TD... player count doesn't = better game ESPECIALLY when the majority is all bots like you said. Honestly if AA adds every single QOL that AV has then AV has no chance of competing.
all fair points except your first one, they have already been updating biweekly-monthly, its just that most of them were abysmal dogshit, expecially the dandadan one, that probably lost them half their playerbase. imo they have to start focusing on providing more difficult content that isn't able to be cleared in 2-3 days, and I have to give them their flowers for the recent fate one, it was a solid 8/10 update, with new story and worldlines, however it was also too little too late. and regarding aa, yeah that game is a dumpster fire, that for "some" cough cough -bots- reason averages 100k players. no seamless restart (why does it have to teleport me???), no active ability control center, no unit manager, ugly ass ui and models. people complained about diavolo in av, but aizen is two times harder and I barely see any pushback, no character passives (how does a game with so many units have so little variety). I compared the av and aa settings tab side by side, and its depressing how av has 10x less ccp, dogshit rewards. Etc
@@NelmarSenit still isn’t the top TD game AWTD,AA and ALS still beats it in terms of gameplay and content in the game. Stop using graphics and QOL as a cope out and realise their bigger reason why other games are better.
Personally i think av could see a big gain in player count as AA continues its life span, the game is lacking in qol and lacks the full 'anime' draw that people play these td games for. If AA doesn't keep the content rolling at a high-quality level at a good pace then i could easily see the "GUYS ITS AA" argument dying real fast
Av NEEDS to update faster, like every 3 weeks or so at max, since they said that they had 2 different teams (one for the big and another for the small upds) that means that since upd 1, they’ve been straight working on upd 2. there is NO WAY that it’s taking this long to make upd 2. They have to hire more people to work on the game
They should but hear me out(not biased) for a high quality game, it's pretty hard and expensive for them to update, especially now that the average players doesn't even reach 10k+ the sponsors are so small compared to when it's release
we are getting updates every 3 weeks (and i hope it will continue), but yeah, it takes a bit too long for an update with 1 new stage and few new units.
I only stopped playing AV because of the Vanguard Rarity Units I have been grinding since the update of DanDaDan for almost 12-16 Hours a Day until last January 2 and still didn't get the f-ing Vanguard unit and I spent 1.1M gems and still didn't get alucard while in AA I got Umbra last week and dark mage today
Main problem i have with anime vanguards were the delays, and sometimes game breaking/obvious bugs. I remember during update 0.5, there was a bug with atleast Cha-in's cone aoe, making it about a 90% offset from where she was facing, then in update 1.75, the bug with the sturfy enemies being invincible unless you had on of the 2 elements that had the least amount of usible units that could beat the stage... I was so concerned as how that got past them... I would like to play the game and enjoy it, but those past issues will always bother me, and make me feel like they will always mess up atleast one thing, delay, and still miss something.
can't agree. Cha-In's bug was only visual, it didn't impact the gameplay, and with 1.75 update, it got fixed after 3-4 hours + you still could use toji or julius which are strong units. And with delays, those were only in first 3 updates, later it was more of a community joke than delays because really, 5 min delay during 1.75 update won't make you lose half of your lifespan.
@Tartarum Yes, you are very much right. However I still stand by my belief that if something isn't ready, don't say it is, even if its done a few minutes after it was initially supposed to be done. I know it kinda sounds stupid, but it is only my opinion.
something i found really stupid is when the dandadan event upd came out, everyone was calling it horrible and too long. when aa rereleased, they had the same thing but a tad bit longer and nobody cares
I played AA since release until now. When vanguards released, i played it non stop and also got monarch sukuna. Its sad for me to say that the game is just better in AA in nearly every aspect, but now i immediately get bored playing 1 story of av. I just cant get bored of AA for some reason even though AV should have more fun in it
Agreed bro it’s crazy. It’s some kind of magic for a game to have no QOL, atrocious rates, worse overall quality, and P2W af and for some reason I feel like AA is funner somehow. I’ll still play both but I think it’s because of lack of content AV currently has tbh
I feel like it's a bit because AA just has more people and more content making it just feel better to play sometimes, play with others feature also helps just don't do it on event stages
I think the main reason AA is still going mainly because of the TH-camrs hard pushing it. I don't see much marketing for either games it's really what the TH-camrs and content creators decide they want to play. AV is just overall a better game in every category except content and that's simply because AA has 2 years on it's belt and AV has like what 3 months? The biggest reason I stick with AV when I logged on AA I gave the game also about 3-4 months saw my level being near the same of 87 then realized how much more pay2win AA is in terms of traits, and you literally cannot participate in some content in AA if you don't have good traits or ultra god stats.
I mainly play AA but also love AV.anime accurate,easy to obtain trait rerolls,amzing vfx though i like aa's vfx more.As long as the dev still update the game,i will still play it
I played all the big ATD games and I always ended up back on AV It's the most polished one with the best features, why should I stick with a game that has more units and content when the base of the game is flawed?
new to these types of roblox game, taking a break from bo6, i enjoy tower defense. in my case, if this game has 2x (3x too plz) speed, it'll solve a lot of my problems. i dont have lots of time in a day to be grinding what i need to be grinding. if somehow 2x was in the game, it'll help me so much and maybe lots of others. me and my other friends just dropped AA and be playing spongebob defense just simply it has 3x LOL and i'd pay for them to have ateast 2x. idk why a lot of anime defense dont have them. maybe they cant.. idk much about these tower defense games
I would play AV but there's just no updates so I don't play then one update happens then there's not much content so then next update its the same thing but takes like a month to come out. my problem with the game is that its over double the time for content that other games do it two weeks. ik that they like having good quality but still I do not think that it should take this long for updates.
AV feels like a ramp. you start flying on the top, and then you lose the enjoyment of the wind and the fall when you arrive to the end. AV feels stale no matter what I do. I don't get any enjoyment out of It, and that's ok. I think AV Is a good game, It's just so many things that needs Improvement. Though, I feel like Its thanks to my time with AA that Influenced how I think of other ones. Though, I actually enjoy AWTD and It's for one reason. Quality. What ruins my Immersion Is not copyright or different models, It's how fleshed out they look. I feel like the graphics Influence this even more and I don't like the amped up models In AV as much as AA. That's what I personally think. If you disagree, then tell me. People In the community don't try to understand eachother's perspective.
Honestly for me it’s entirely on how getting Gogeta works, Diavolo was an absolute flop so the fact that they’re already adding another Vanguard unit makes me nervous, especially with the initial justification of “oh it’s just bragging rights for people who get lucky” as if they don’t already have a system for that with Shiny units💀
In my opinion they have to do a masive update to try to do a come back and not only in contend and quality. They will never beat aa in terms of numbers becuase its the reality aa will be number 1 anime td game, no mater how bad the updates are, no mater if the rates to get the new units are like 10 times worst than aizen players will grind for it becuase its aa. Aa will not add any of the quality of life of vanguards and not becuase they are " better " or " they dont need it " its becuase the devs of aa dont fell the presure to do this things like there is no other td game that is close to the numbers of they game so they dont really care if those things makes a better gameplay becuase those thing dont get them money. Now AV is better than anime adventures in a lot of ways but the problem with AV is the updates, most updates have little to no contend to do and also they put false promese just to put things in another update. Like sukuna and the new lobby, things that shoud have put in the game a lot sooner and that is the biggest problem. Alot of players dont belive in them anymore becuase they realease flop after flop and update 2 is good but not something that makes a lot of players come back to play it. I like AV but even games like anime last stand are beating them and that is a lot becuase als updates are bad but they update there game so fast that after you finnish the update there is going to be more things to grind for. That is why in my opinion if they dont deliver a really really good update the game is going to be in a even worst position that it is right now
Av has the most toxic community ever because they wanted an exact replica of aa instead of a new game, something av was going for sometimes. AV is better with a smaller community because they don't have to constantly deal with toxicity 2 seconds after an update releases.
AV Could make a comeback because aa is kinda boring rn the new secret aizen is just like another limited secret (shadow girl) and the new event is long as hell and is super grindy and AA still didnt make a f2p trait system which means Pay 2 win players still have advantages in tournements also the find match is getting botted, my whole entire team is bots and the mythic units arent really worth it except for the new secret portal unit if av updates in time it could maybe get 30k players
How to make a guesstimated ATD video: Yap and give brief summary of events End it with idk Im joking btw its just funny to see a lot of youtubers do this exact thing
to be honesti play aa and awtd over av and like, av is more well made and better in stuff like QoL but personally aa the join others feature, for things other then winter event and halloween i have been able to use and just find people, join groups and stuff for future content and honestly, the more content is what makes the game for me and its not really somethign that can be caught up with. but awtd is think is the most well made td game
Holy wait Pery is a PVZ hjeroes fan!? What are your thoughts on the most recent balance change considering this was the first content that isn't a new pack we've gotten in YONKS
@@peryfc I am too after such a long content drought I'm hoping for some big things around the corner, plus as always a 4 lane seedling challenge today is just blissful.
Rn idk how to feel about AA nor AV, both games Currently feels hollow like theres something lacks, AA uhm yeah.. AD 2.0 and AV being the bloxfruits of TD games
yall thinking too much its simple, i was unlucky in av so i quit i am lucky in aa so i continue to play theres no other special reason. in the end they are both tower defences so why should i waste my time on something im not having fun in?
bruh, it's your first secret, if you are new definetively, if you are a oldhead from marineford or release with good units then it depends in what your team look like.
anime adventures may be back but not with its performance it makes my device lag and stutter, honestly I used to prefer anime adventures but not anymore for these reasons: 1. this game is too p2w 2. the trait reroll system is too hard to get the trait reroll 3. the many macros when trading makes the player lag more 4. the risk of dc is greater 5. evo items are obtained longer 6. last but there are still many, I shorten it so that it is not too much, well even though this is already a lot. events in this game require grinding at least with random players and yeah that's from me thank you for reading my long comment
not p2w, you can do EVERY stage without unique lol and if trait rerolls were so easy to get then unique wouldn't feel amazing to have/get. It's nice to have unique it's not needed, evo items being longer means more grinding which is better if you want more rerolls go play that trashy als bro
@LusciciousI don't know what world you're living in, but how is AA not "p2w". Of course every TD game is "f2p" in some aspect, but AA is easily the worse in this scenario. Have you not seen the shop with the "limited bundle, must buy now!!". The marketing shown in AA is straight up manipulating people into thinking they're missing out on a "limited" deal. Also, Trait rerolls are purposefully scarce because they want players to spend money into their game. Simple as that. They even have a robux option ready incase you DO want to pay. Not because they want to make players feel special.
@Luscicious First of all, as I said, they even had a robux option if you DO want to buy it. And, as I said before, trait rerolls are purposefully scarce so people will pay for them, which is still a p2w tactic. Second of all, in a literal sense, of course they're technically not forcing you to buy trait rerolls, but considering how hard it is (as supposed to my first argument), they purposefully capitalize on this tactic to so players will end up spending money to skip up some time, which is still a p2w tactic. (in case you didn't read my first comment) Third of all, I didn't even mention unique? Or do you want me to start talking about unique in this regard?
come back from super meta secrets? yeah right if ur gonna make a secret meta make it dmg meta not support meta cuz at least wit dmg units they fall off by time
Av is the best td games on Roblox yes they take very very long to upd and yes they lied with upd 2 being the biggest upd BUT other than that the other updates were brilliant lots of content and the quality is incredible the only reason aa is beating av is because it just released that was the same with av they had a lot of players BUT (again) players are blinded by nostalgia with aa just give it a month or 2 or till av drop the next upd
they over hype there updates then just dont deliver what they promised, the game is just shit, 2 month update times for stuff they said they would add then just dont lol
i heard probably but most popular anime td game ever? no. astd takes that title, they collaborated with 24kgoldn (washed artist) even hop on a discord call with fruit (astd owner)(fruit is ass at rapping 😭) they also collaborated with chainsmokers (washed artist aswell),bakugan, and dungeons and dragons I know ALL of them are washed up but still they are big names (prob because they astd has been out for like 4-5 years thats why they have all of those collabs but most popular anime td game? nah its astd). aa or av still has time to grow and probably will have more collabs soon.
AV is now blessed with what AWTD is blessed with. A loyal small community. That means they can focus on what they want to instead of having to appeal to mass audiences (who are no longer here, thank god). That also means they can expand into more niche series, thereby adding more creative units.
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Have u seen those awtd allegations😭
@@deaddead2783yea ts insane 😭 wouldn’t be surprised if some of it was forged tho but idk
@@t4kts what allegations? Kinda lost
anime vanguards is better than anime adventures in terms of quality, but not in marketing.
when anime vanguards release diavolo people kept complaining, but when anime adventures makes a unit that’s 4 times rarer people suck it up. braindead kids who’s loyal to AA is the key of it’s success, where AV kept dealing with this dogshit barking community 😅
“there’s more stuff to grind in AA” maybe cuz the game has been out longer? AV has horrible update schedule but the game is objectively better
Other than the lack of qol i find that most people just enjoy playing aa more
how can something be objectively better when your entire statement is subjective? the only reason that AV was such a big hit in the first place was because AA got taken down. It left people with a metaphorical void that AV was able to fill because of their similarities. in fact that’s the reason that any of these tower defense games thrived, people were stuck looking for a replacement so they endured these cheap knockoffs. it’s hardly a surprise that these tower defense games all fell off after AA’s release, people got back the thing they sought to replace, it’s that simple.
av on release had barely any myhtics compare that to when anime adventures released and how there was barely any content people got fed up and dropped it
and the amount of macroing in av and playing by yourself instead of other people is a factor too
@@TheRealEmiliaAV literally had more mythics than AA on release.
Will they be at the top again? Only if AA manages to mess up BADLY somehow
Can they make a comeback? Yes, but it will heavily depend on the next few patches on what the future will look for them.
I really don’t see aa dying or dipping in players because the people that play it won’t leave it no matter how bad the updates are like the Christmas update sucked ass yet people still played it won't
i think aa numbers will eventually dwindle
Most people would probably realize: "oh shit, this game is not as good as I think it was" and come back to other anime td game@@2crisp63
@@Unbuck-n2bI remember aa only having 40k active players maximum which is A peaceful era of the game for (me ofc dk about others) and less drama. Maybe drama started due to the increase of players or aa is just really lacking what other td games have?
@@Unbuck-n2b yeah it's just the fact people are too addicted to that game ATP and refuse to leave even if it's garbage.
AV really, really needs to quit doing '.5' updates. Content size aside, it's just fundamentally lamer to get a ping only to see a half update. Heard mentality is real, and AV's public perception is already that of a game drowning in delays and small, infrequent updates. All these small updates half-baked half-updates do is perpetuate that perception
like, i knew that game was cooked the moment i saw a '.75 update'
Bro is not rin itoshi
@ kaiser better tbh
not to mention the .1 update we got as the monthly update
I think your kinda slow? Because this update is bigger than the upd 2 one if you haven't noticed smart ass 😭🙏
@@justnormalkata calling me slow and using the wrong you’re in the same sentence 😭🙏 this generation is doomed
we need a appreciation video about AV devs because they are actually better tower defense and so that they can have motivation to keep updating it 😭
Reread this bullshit and fix your comment this comment is illiterate
they are actually better tower defense 💯
@@thechorri2198 i mean objectively is smokes aa
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Nah I don’t appreciate their shit it’s just copies after copies of same shit all over again.
One of my main gripes with AV is its finite amount of rerolls available. I’m a fairly new player to the game and quickly noticed that all the raid shops and different versions of it such as cursed fingers don’t ever reset and once you buy all of them then they never reset.
I disagree with this, and honestly I think I'd go as far as to say the game offers *too* many rerolls sometimes such as with the Dan Da Dan Event Shop having 200 Rerolls in stock. I've gotten Mythic traits on at least 20 different Units by now as a F2P player and I've also been able to confidently roll off of traits like Solar or Deadeye to go for rarer traits instead. The game is also super easy too, you can solo almost anything by just spamming all your placements down no traits required.
There are other ways to get rerolls too such as the Daily Challenges (and occasional Half-Hourly Challenge), Tournament Mode, Paragon Mode, and Unit Achievements. Unless you're grinding 24/7 and have managed to obtain every reward the game has to offer there will always be other avenues to get rerolls before they release another update that offers even more rerolls to grind for.
@@Evan-dh5sd I do agree with your comment but I think it's rather subjective. There is a PLETHERA of ways to get rerolls but not everyone has the same luck, you can use 300 rerolls, and even though with that many there is still a chance you get no mythic trait. To someone that has no mythic traits it would seem like they don't give a lot, but to someone that has a lot and doesn't need to spend as much it would seem like they are too generous. Unfortunately that's just the aspect of gambling and it's very hard for devs to balance "luck" which is why I think they made getting good traits unnecessary for normal average gameplay. I'd say the only thing you maybe need a good trait for is Tournaments obv, high stages of inf/paragon, and SOME raids.
270 rolls on gojo no monarch😢
they do reset they literally did reset the raid shops in update 2.0 and theyre gonna reset the boss rush shops again when they drop in the upcoming update
They reset the raid shop at 2.0 and igris boss rush reward in 1.1
And probably will reset again in the future if there is a new thing coming for raid or boss rush
I love AV and want to play it. I like how high quality it is and that new dragon ball character animation looks dope. ❤ The only thing about AV is the fact it gets so dry so quickly. I have completed every update they have pushed in a day or so. Rn I’m still grinding this damn Christmas update in AA. 😭 Anyways Pery if your reading this make content on whatever you want and even if it’s not everyday I’m sure I’ll still love it, keep up the good work. 👍
Honestly I felt betrayed by AV. They said that update 2.0 would be the BIGGEST update yet. They advertised it like it was gonna be this grand thing. Yet it felt barely bigger than the other updates. And i personally got more enjoyment out of the dandadan update.
Fr especially the kings burden bro I was so happy about that shit
On the roblox dev forum roblox has announced that they will take action against automated farming. Depending on how they do, botting could become nonexistent. Maybe even macroing. That will probably kill all TDs.
Good, that would force people to play the games and stop the glaze which would also lead to more criticism which would maybe lead to atd games improving with more qol. Also macroing is just stupid and lazy, why even play a game if you are just going to macro it?
It’s most likely for bots
marcoing is screen recording, so it’s a huge doubt, and bots use actual exploits which even wit Hyperion Roblox can still not for their life patch
@ I encourage you to read the forum post yourself. They state that they will use ai to moderate suspicious activity. Kinda like vc moderation.
@@SimmeBooga so if it’s like vc moderation then it will be buns, got it
And I’m pretty sure Roblox won’t fully go in with that idea ,a lot of games would have to change especially the idea with afk worlds
and like I said, Roblox isn’t really known for well.. doing good decisions
@@GWw2-jq2dx yes, that’s why I said depending on how they do. But investors are putting pressure on roblox because of the amount of bots, so something will be done.
I feel like aa really takes advantage of how we want what we cant get. We get what we want from all these td games like qol but aa doesn’t care how much we beg for a qol so people just give up and people just suck it up and glaze them cause they cant control aa as much as the other td
It’s definitely fatigue. I took for 1 month break from all anime tower defense games and came back to play aa and had the worst time ever (mainly because aa is 0 quality of life p2w slop) and after I stopped playing aa I kept up that 1 month streak until I played av and realised how good it is and now I’m back to playing anime tower defense games and only av because the rest are ass
same
bro playing aa from wish 😂
Same
@@zaee.. av got better features and quality than aa tho
@@zaee.. you mean bro playing the offical aa?
a pretty big issue for me is the banner, in no other game have I seen the banner be so insanely inconsistent. when I load into an update and drop 60k gems on the FEATURED units and I get 12 guys off banner and 1 guy off to the side, it just makes me wanna leave
Im happy the game is able to have core foundations with a smaller group now that they dont have the masses jumping down their throats the second they release an update. Hope for the best for them tbh and sidenote what is the game in the background?
AV's main selling point was that it would be very similar to AA. Now that AA is back theres not much reason to play AV over AA.
As of right now I would agree but av has a lot more potential to be better
If AA improve its QOL, it's gg for AV
Av is just a better game overall though in terms of quality and gameplay. Only thing aa has is content
Most people I talk to agree AV is objectively a better game than AA (those same people still play AA more than AV because of what I'm about to say next) but AA is way more popular because of how much more content it has for new players and how many hours the returning players have sank into AA not to mention the robux they've sank and hype behind the returning former goat of Anime td games
@HoangTrangTuanKiet AV is literally getting less than 10k CCU while AA is hovering at over 100K. Atp there isn't much else AA can do to take the remaining AV players.
anime vanguards also had said they removed bots from their game which is a factor to why there player count is lower than other td games
would like to see a series such as "does it live up to the hype" going over td game updates or other big games releasing where you do a 10 minute testing of games to show them off and giving your honest opinions on whether there worth trying or not like the SpongeBob td vid but more edited
In my opinion AV is probably not gonna make a huge comeback and become the 2nd best Anime TD game because it is just too similar to AA, I do think that it is better than anime reborn and ALS and has more potential than both of them but they are so different to AA that they are still surviving pretty well even though AA is back but AV doesnt really have those distinguishing factors from it to make it so much more different than AA unlike Anime Reborn and ALS
Every game will fall and rise, you need to stop glazing AA its not perfect i mean ffs it donest have mythic pity 🤦
@@mateo_3731 I'm not glazing AA I'm not trying to side with any particular game but to me AV seems like it copies a lot more from AA than the other two games I listed do and because so many people have dedicated time into AA they are going to play that over AV which is reasonable, and I don't think AA is perfect by any means because it lacks so much QOL but once they inevitably do add that QOL AV wont really have much on AA
since when pery editing his videos with subtitles proud of my bro
people need to accept one thing as well: If AA wasn't taken down, AV wouldn't be what it is, heck it probably wouldn't even exist. I stopped playing Anime tower defense games after AA's deletion because I honestly just realized a lot of games just rode on the train, a spot needed to be filled and AV did it, most of their playerbase was people looking a way to play an anime tower defense while AA was gone
5:15, yes anime adventures will become number 2. 7:17, yes Anime adventures has summon animations and they are indeed the best.
Does it matter if it makes a comeback or not it’s still a fun game some people just prefer aa than it
i really like and thinks that the best td right now is AV the only main issue is that the updates it takes so long if they are taking that long for the update i wish they'd make the update super time consuming enough that it takes you next update to finish. you guys know that feeling if you played AA right it takes week for a single unit to be Evolved. because i think why the player count is so low is that since to evo the units is so easy then after that like why grind the game when you alr evoed everything probably why only first week of update is about 20k+
If the game still makes money it's not dead.
Heres bullet points on what needs to happen for AV to be the top TD, Update cycle is much faster (I'm talking biweekly or monthly), Trading needs to pop out this update, the promises made need to start being fufilled, no more bs 1.10121031 updates. And heres what AA needs to do to ensure AV wins back first, ignore community critisicism and just only listen to the glaze because lets be honest theres glaze, never add 2x or atleast improve the game speed in general, ignore quality of life, dont admit that they have been very shady in regards to promises (deleting the main announcment channel which contained the whole 'We have been working tirelessly to ensure that this is up to standard with current games and then they just did nothing...), not ban bot accounts at all (i mean seriously man there are SO many bots in AA rn I think realistically its got probably 20-30k reals at any given time. I think if all of that happens, AV has a very good shot at being top TD
anime vanguards is already top TD... player count doesn't = better game ESPECIALLY when the majority is all bots like you said. Honestly if AA adds every single QOL that AV has then AV has no chance of competing.
@@NelmarSen Oh yeah 100% agree, player count doesn't dictate a better game, but at the end of the day the AA glazers won't agree with that.
all fair points except your first one, they have already been updating biweekly-monthly, its just that most of them were abysmal dogshit, expecially the dandadan one, that probably lost them half their playerbase.
imo they have to start focusing on providing more difficult content that isn't able to be cleared in 2-3 days, and I have to give them their flowers for the recent fate one, it was a solid 8/10 update, with new story and worldlines, however it was also too little too late.
and regarding aa, yeah that game is a dumpster fire, that for "some" cough cough -bots- reason averages 100k players. no seamless restart (why does it have to teleport me???), no active ability control center, no unit manager, ugly ass ui and models. people complained about diavolo in av, but aizen is two times harder and I barely see any pushback, no character passives (how does a game with so many units have so little variety). I compared the av and aa settings tab side by side, and its depressing how av has 10x less ccp, dogshit rewards. Etc
@@杀手菜鸟 i can say the dandadan update did make me quit the game fully
@@NelmarSenit still isn’t the top TD game AWTD,AA and ALS still beats it in terms of gameplay and content in the game. Stop using graphics and QOL as a cope out and realise their bigger reason why other games are better.
Personally i think av could see a big gain in player count as AA continues its life span, the game is lacking in qol and lacks the full 'anime' draw that people play these td games for.
If AA doesn't keep the content rolling at a high-quality level at a good pace then i could easily see the "GUYS ITS AA" argument dying real fast
Av NEEDS to update faster, like every 3 weeks or so at max, since they said that they had 2 different teams (one for the big and another for the small upds) that means that since upd 1, they’ve been straight working on upd 2. there is NO WAY that it’s taking this long to make upd 2. They have to hire more people to work on the game
They should but hear me out(not biased) for a high quality game, it's pretty hard and expensive for them to update, especially now that the average players doesn't even reach 10k+ the sponsors are so small compared to when it's release
we are getting updates every 3 weeks (and i hope it will continue), but yeah, it takes a bit too long for an update with 1 new stage and few new units.
what game are you playing in the video
I only stopped playing AV because of the Vanguard Rarity Units
I have been grinding since the update of DanDaDan for almost 12-16 Hours a Day until last January 2 and still didn't get the f-ing Vanguard unit and I spent 1.1M gems and still didn't get alucard
while in AA I got Umbra last week and dark mage today
Main problem i have with anime vanguards were the delays, and sometimes game breaking/obvious bugs. I remember during update 0.5, there was a bug with atleast Cha-in's cone aoe, making it about a 90% offset from where she was facing, then in update 1.75, the bug with the sturfy enemies being invincible unless you had on of the 2 elements that had the least amount of usible units that could beat the stage... I was so concerned as how that got past them... I would like to play the game and enjoy it, but those past issues will always bother me, and make me feel like they will always mess up atleast one thing, delay, and still miss something.
can't agree. Cha-In's bug was only visual, it didn't impact the gameplay, and with 1.75 update, it got fixed after 3-4 hours + you still could use toji or julius which are strong units. And with delays, those were only in first 3 updates, later it was more of a community joke than delays because really, 5 min delay during 1.75 update won't make you lose half of your lifespan.
@Tartarum Yes, you are very much right. However I still stand by my belief that if something isn't ready, don't say it is, even if its done a few minutes after it was initially supposed to be done. I know it kinda sounds stupid, but it is only my opinion.
What fun ah games do you be playing in the background i wnna play them to.
something i found really stupid is when the dandadan event upd came out, everyone was calling it horrible and too long. when aa rereleased, they had the same thing but a tad bit longer and nobody cares
I played AA since release until now. When vanguards released, i played it non stop and also got monarch sukuna. Its sad for me to say that the game is just better in AA in nearly every aspect, but now i immediately get bored playing 1 story of av. I just cant get bored of AA for some reason even though AV should have more fun in it
Agreed bro it’s crazy. It’s some kind of magic for a game to have no QOL, atrocious rates, worse overall quality, and P2W af and for some reason I feel like AA is funner somehow. I’ll still play both but I think it’s because of lack of content AV currently has tbh
I feel like it's a bit because AA just has more people and more content making it just feel better to play sometimes, play with others feature also helps just don't do it on event stages
I think the main reason AA is still going mainly because of the TH-camrs hard pushing it. I don't see much marketing for either games it's really what the TH-camrs and content creators decide they want to play.
AV is just overall a better game in every category except content and that's simply because AA has 2 years on it's belt and AV has like what 3 months?
The biggest reason I stick with AV when I logged on AA I gave the game also about 3-4 months saw my level being near the same of 87 then realized how much more pay2win AA is in terms of traits, and you literally cannot participate in some content in AA if you don't have good traits or ultra god stats.
Pery, how do you like the new balance patches in pvz heroes
I mainly play AA but also love AV.anime accurate,easy to obtain trait rerolls,amzing vfx though i like aa's vfx more.As long as the dev still update the game,i will still play it
Just subbed and you were asking for video ideas so could you talk about astd x and your opinions on the game and the release
I think the TD that made worst the macro things was anime defenders, after anime defenders, the macros became more and more worked
Rare comment that involves AD the game fell of so hard it's rarely been talked
Imo AV had potential to be the best ATD they just gotta start updating more and having more communication(which they're already starting to do)
im watching this to sleep ty pery see u in gen 2 soon much love
av is more polish version of anime tower defense game and imo aa is like astd now
I played all the big ATD games and I always ended up back on AV
It's the most polished one with the best features, why should I stick with a game that has more units and content when the base of the game is flawed?
"most popular td outside of ad" meanwhile av had a higher peak then ad ever had, and maintained that peak over them
new to these types of roblox game, taking a break from bo6, i enjoy tower defense. in my case, if this game has 2x (3x too plz) speed, it'll solve a lot of my problems. i dont have lots of time in a day to be grinding what i need to be grinding. if somehow 2x was in the game, it'll help me so much and maybe lots of others. me and my other friends just dropped AA and be playing spongebob defense just simply it has 3x LOL and i'd pay for them to have ateast 2x. idk why a lot of anime defense dont have them. maybe they cant.. idk much about these tower defense games
AV doesn't need 2x speed, you can beat farm levels in 5-6 min without any meta units, if you can't even spend 6 mit to play then idk what to tell you.
If grinding for gogeta is the same as Diavolo, I am not playing the update. I rather cry abt not getting aizen than have a repeat diavolo
the av grind was still easier than the aa grind and + they said there gonna make it "munch" easier to get
complaining something like that and still glazing aizen who is 1 in 80k. and the same way to get as other secret. just capsule.
they say it's easier to get it on the next update
dude what... this is the most biased statement ever
You mean the event you could get 3-4 tenpulls in 30 minutes compared to the event you get 1-2 tenpulls 50 minutes? Nah, the glaze is insane
pery can you cover the roblox game called "twenty one" ? Its blackjack but with a twist (its based off of Resident Evil 7's extra DLC gamemode)
They're not really bots if there is a user behind that account that is macroing. By all means, you would be considered a bot in AA and AV.
I would play AV but there's just no updates so I don't play then one update happens then there's not much content so then next update its the same thing but takes like a month to come out.
my problem with the game is that its over double the time for content that other games do it two weeks. ik that they like having good quality but still I do not think that it should take this long for updates.
If it's only been less grindy then aa i would play it
AV feels like a ramp. you start flying on the top, and then you lose the enjoyment of the wind and the fall when you arrive to the end. AV feels stale no matter what I do. I don't get any enjoyment out of It, and that's ok. I think AV Is a good game, It's just so many things that needs Improvement. Though, I feel like Its thanks to my time with AA that Influenced how I think of other ones. Though, I actually enjoy AWTD and It's for one reason. Quality. What ruins my Immersion Is not copyright or different models, It's how fleshed out they look. I feel like the graphics Influence this even more and I don't like the amped up models In AV as much as AA. That's what I personally think. If you disagree, then tell me. People In the community don't try to understand eachother's perspective.
Honestly for me it’s entirely on how getting Gogeta works, Diavolo was an absolute flop so the fact that they’re already adding another Vanguard unit makes me nervous, especially with the initial justification of “oh it’s just bragging rights for people who get lucky” as if they don’t already have a system for that with Shiny units💀
Not really bragging rights most people that spent 5m+ wisps have diaviolo it’s just a long grind
7:10 its gogeta super saiyan 4 and he will most likely be a fusion between goku and vegeta
2 videos a day we eating good tonight
I do know pvz heroes i infact play it too. just i am sad that the only TD game i am good in is dying. but yeah we can only wait
I already played anime vanguard wasted too much time I spent three to a week trying to awaken Vegeta and I only made 2 to 3 units
In my opinion they have to do a masive update to try to do a come back and not only in contend and quality.
They will never beat aa in terms of numbers becuase its the reality aa will be number 1 anime td game, no mater how bad the updates are, no mater if the rates to get the new units are like 10 times worst than aizen players will grind for it becuase its aa.
Aa will not add any of the quality of life of vanguards and not becuase they are " better " or " they dont need it " its becuase the devs of aa dont fell the presure to do this things like there is no other td game that is close to the numbers of they game so they dont really care if those things makes a better gameplay becuase those thing dont get them money.
Now AV is better than anime adventures in a lot of ways but the problem with AV is the updates, most updates have little to no contend to do and also they put false promese just to put things in another update. Like sukuna and the new lobby, things that shoud have put in the game a lot sooner and that is the biggest problem.
Alot of players dont belive in them anymore becuase they realease flop after flop and update 2 is good but not something that makes a lot of players come back to play it.
I like AV but even games like anime last stand are beating them and that is a lot becuase als updates are bad but they update there game so fast that after you finnish the update there is going to be more things to grind for.
That is why in my opinion if they dont deliver a really really good update the game is going to be in a even worst position that it is right now
Av would be top 1 if not the toxic to no communication or delays at last minute, everyone is tired of hype killing delays
Av has the most toxic community ever because they wanted an exact replica of aa instead of a new game, something av was going for sometimes. AV is better with a smaller community because they don't have to constantly deal with toxicity 2 seconds after an update releases.
Whats the background Game?
I'm super excited for ssj4 Gogeta
Love the vid, you should try five nights td it's pretty good and it has alot of current players(20-50k last time i checked)
Five nights td is peak(better than aa)
what is the game u used for gameplay pls say
AV Could make a comeback because aa is kinda boring rn the new secret aizen is just like another limited secret (shadow girl) and the new event is long as hell and is super grindy and AA still didnt make a f2p trait system which means Pay 2 win players still have advantages in tournements also the find match is getting botted, my whole entire team is bots and the mythic units arent really worth it except for the new secret portal unit if av updates in time it could maybe get 30k players
PvZ Heroes is amazing, & they need to update it
Als is just like astd you can’t compare them to these tower defense games that market themselves like anime adventures competition
How to make a guesstimated ATD video: Yap and give brief summary of events
End it with idk
Im joking btw its just funny to see a lot of youtubers do this exact thing
if av releases a tokyo ghoul update imma be on that shit instantly
Yes it can I am lvl 19 I am having the time of my life playing av
to be honesti play aa and awtd over av and like, av is more well made and better in stuff like QoL but personally aa the join others feature, for things other then winter event and halloween i have been able to use and just find people, join groups and stuff for future content and honestly, the more content is what makes the game for me and its not really somethign that can be caught up with. but awtd is think is the most well made td game
not with this update schedule. if they updated more frequently they'd have a chance.
The only thing Av can make a comeback is their updating system Aa update more consistensy while Av takes months or more just to add little stuff
pery can you make a Als vid
i really love ur opinion fr
7:21 anime adventures has summoning animations ?
he meant vanguards
My screenshot was included in the video 😮
Imo exept the fact of av delays it is still better than aa imo bc in aa they have copyrighted units so is enough for me to say that is the worst td
Holy wait Pery is a PVZ hjeroes fan!? What are your thoughts on the most recent balance change considering this was the first content that isn't a new pack we've gotten in YONKS
I’m excited for the future of the game, my goat fryemup is gonna be eating good
@@peryfc I am too after such a long content drought I'm hoping for some big things around the corner, plus as always a 4 lane seedling challenge today is just blissful.
Rn idk how to feel about AA nor AV, both games Currently feels hollow like theres something lacks, AA uhm yeah.. AD 2.0 and AV being the bloxfruits of TD games
yall thinking too much its simple, i was unlucky in av so i quit i am lucky in aa so i continue to play theres no other special reason. in the end they are both tower defences so why should i waste my time on something im not having fun in?
AV needs to fix their lag problems and fps drops, then ill play again
you just have a shit computer
Imo, I feel like it's too late, the people already hate it, and they'll prob never come back to it, plus, unlike AA, they couldn't keep the hype
3 things that wouldn't change ever 1_nag hating on als 2_sebby riding on ab 3_prey glazing on av😂
Pery do you edit your own video if yes what do you use to edit
I use capcut, I edit all my stuff
what’s the game in the background pery
pery, i know that this has nothing to do with the video but should i put buddha in my team on AA? Just got him and is my first secret
bruh, it's your first secret, if you are new definetively, if you are a oldhead from marineford or release with good units then it depends in what your team look like.
yes
@@Sóaquipra i got some great units like griffin, grimjow unique, dreamer with celestial
I beleive I heard that this vanguard will be an easier obtainment method. (probably still summoning, maybe more common? Don't quote me here.)
whats the gameyour playing
what's the game you playing it look fun lwk
off topic, what game is he playing on the video?
I saw it nvm
anime adventures may be back but not with its performance it makes my device lag and stutter, honestly I used to prefer anime adventures but not anymore for these reasons:
1. this game is too p2w
2. the trait reroll system is too hard to get the trait reroll
3. the many macros when trading makes the player lag more
4. the risk of dc is greater
5. evo items are obtained longer
6. last but there are still many, I shorten it so that it is not too much, well even though this is already a lot. events in this game require grinding at least with random players
and yeah that's from me thank you for reading my long comment
not p2w, you can do EVERY stage without unique lol and if trait rerolls were so easy to get then unique wouldn't feel amazing to have/get. It's nice to have unique it's not needed, evo items being longer means more grinding which is better if you want more rerolls go play that trashy als bro
I don't know how your device lags that much, because my phone from 2022 works just fine. With other arguements, I can completely agree.
@LusciciousI don't know what world you're living in, but how is AA not "p2w".
Of course every TD game is "f2p" in some aspect, but AA is easily the worse in this scenario. Have you not seen the shop with the "limited bundle, must buy now!!".
The marketing shown in AA is straight up manipulating people into thinking they're missing out on a "limited" deal.
Also, Trait rerolls are purposefully scarce because they want players to spend money into their game. Simple as that. They even have a robux option ready incase you DO want to pay.
Not because they want to make players feel special.
@@-idk-9698 no ones forced to buy anything, like i said UNIQUE isnt needed at all my alts can solo basically anything without it.
@Luscicious First of all, as I said, they even had a robux option if you DO want to buy it.
And, as I said before, trait rerolls are purposefully scarce so people will pay for them, which is still a p2w tactic.
Second of all, in a literal sense, of course they're technically not forcing you to buy trait rerolls, but considering how hard it is (as supposed to my first argument), they purposefully capitalize on this tactic to so players will end up spending money to skip up some time, which is still a p2w tactic.
(in case you didn't read my first comment)
Third of all, I didn't even mention unique? Or do you want me to start talking about unique in this regard?
come back from super meta secrets? yeah right if ur gonna make a secret meta make it dmg meta not support meta cuz at least wit dmg units they fall off by time
bro finally hopped off deepwoken and locked in
try anime world tower defense day 2
Av is the best td games on Roblox yes they take very very long to upd and yes they lied with upd 2 being the biggest upd BUT other than that the other updates were brilliant lots of content and the quality is incredible the only reason aa is beating av is because it just released that was the same with av they had a lot of players BUT (again) players are blinded by nostalgia with aa just give it a month or 2 or till av drop the next upd
Gameplay game name?
If they add perfect cell yea they can
Day 1 of asking for a all star tower defense video
They can make a comeback then just flop again for not updating in 2 months lmao
bro hasn't seen AWTD summon animations
heroes? if it was PvZ 2 or any of the garden warfares i would understand, but heroes? i know it can be good but i just don't see the apeal.
Heroes like from btd 6 im guessing
@@silverfireworkNah, he was talking about PvZ Heroes.
they over hype there updates then just dont deliver what they promised, the game is just shit, 2 month update times for stuff they said they would add then just dont lol
i heard probably but most popular anime td game ever? no. astd takes that title, they collaborated with 24kgoldn (washed artist) even hop on a discord call with fruit (astd owner)(fruit is ass at rapping 😭) they also collaborated with chainsmokers (washed artist aswell),bakugan, and dungeons and dragons I know ALL of them are washed up but still they are big names (prob because they astd has been out for like 4-5 years thats why they have all of those collabs but most popular anime td game? nah its astd). aa or av still has time to grow and probably will have more collabs soon.