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Would You Ride This On a Hardtail?
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The thing about hardtails is you kinda have to ride fast to dull the shock of the trail. There's something special about the connection between rider and bike when your on a hardtail and you get rewarded by making good line choices and reading the trail better since you can't bail yourself out by letting the rear shock do the work. I love my Kona Honzo and think you would have tons of fun on a hardtail too but one things for sure...run cushcore
Rory Ennis I agree. Your shins get really numb on tech trails though.
Yeet Yeet Potato Skeet I've never had that problem, although I attribute that to running cushcore and my Pedalling Innovations Catalyst pedals. The most comfortable pedals I've ever ridden.
Depends on the HT too. I was riding a Giant Talon with a few upgrades (added dropper and converted to tubeless), it was a blast on smooth, flowy stuff because it was so responsive, but was pure misery on chunkfests because the Talon has a really stiff frame, no plus tires, and an awful fork. I just upgraded to a Giant Trance and it definitely is a lot more comfortable, especially landing drops. A 2 foot drop to flat was sketchy on the Talon but doable, it is trivial on the Trance.
mrvwbug44 I hear that. Not all hardtails are created equal. I have a Kona Honzo Deluxe and it's an amazingly capable bike that I have taken down plenty of steep and rowdy trails and it just eats it up. The geometry is as close to perfect as it gets. Making it super stable and nimble at the same time. The frame stiff and solid when it needs to be but has just enough frame flex to dampen the trail, helped by its 29 inch wheels.
Agreed . I grew up mountain biking on hardtail. I think it's the best way to intro into mountain biking. Forces you to learn lines and bike position.
Buy a hardtail! But just buy a frame, and Then build it up, with Sick parts
Commencal Meta Ht🔥
That's what I did now I'm so broke lol. I did get a full suspension mountain bike a couple months ago. I will say this hardtail is much faster and climbs far far better then full suspension.
Depends on the particular build and particular trail. HTs tend to suck it on chunky climbs as the tire bounces off rocks, but on smooth climbs the power transfer is better. There is also a huge difference between a $500 entry level HT, and a boutique build that costs as much as a decent full sus build.
@@mrvwbug4423 I built up a hardtail all xtr. to me there is not another drivetrain as good as Shimano xtr unreal shifting.
Finn eff that...Chromag all the way.
When I switched to hardtail I found out I was not using my legs at all to dampen the trails/landings.
That being said, I got better at line choice, pumping around and tricks.
Hardtails are way more agile than full sus bikes and that makes them more playful and alive. To me full suspension bikes now feel like a couch or an anesthesia and every time I hop on one than I get to my rig back it feels so fresh. The feeling you get when you clean a rough section faster than you did before and with no mistakes, man....
You feel everything better: the ground, the bike, the mistakes, your progression..
Sketchy stuff+ hardtail= endless fun
I was singlespeed only for my first 6 yrs of MTB, and still do a lot of it, but no 45 min fire road climbs where I live. Respect to your friend for grunting that out & smashing the way down!
That looked exhausting AF. The camera setup was spot on IMO. The guys on hardtails are BEAST lol!
All I have is a hard tail ! Lmao 😂
What kind
I ride a chromag primer and it’s my only bike, I absolutely love it. Hardtails for life
Frame choice is critical on a HT, you need some compliance in the seat stays (regardless of material), and clearance for plus tires. I also think a hardtail would benefit a lot more from 29 inch wheels than a full sus, and I've even seen a few HT builds with 29er plus tires that perform really well.
mrvwbug44 yeah I ran 27.5x3.0 for a while and just switched to 2.8 but I like the fatty tires. Helps a lot with a lack of suspension
Hardtails just make everything more fun and interesting
2020 is year of the hardtail... join us 🤘😈🤘 Get a Chromag for your environment
Zed no... you just have to ride more and realize that you actually have to work to ride a hardtail, you can’t just go straight and pray, you gotta blast through tech and always stay on your toes otherwise any bad line can ruin your ride, or bike
@@zed5129 a good rider can do anything on a hardtail
So beautiful. A little bit of everything there. So awesome to have that in your backyard. Heart was racing the whole time.
I figured out where all of his grip is coming from. Plus sized High Roller 2s (perfect tire for wet, loamy stuff), and cush core so he can run really low tire pressure.
Oh man I'm with you on getting the confidence knocked out of you after a couple of spills near the end of a day. I feel like I can roll with it if it's early on and I'm warming up, but there is a tipping point where I'm just not feeling it anymore if I take a spill. I feel like it's a mixture of being tired and then becoming too ridged.
Successfully riding any trail on the North Shore is all about line choice. When you ride a hard tail you're forced to see the trail differently and always look for the smoother/faster line (at least that's what I do). Another great video Nick!
Your footage is so aesthetically clean! It’s so good to watch! Please do more trail rides!😁
There is something special about riding the shore on a hardtail.
You are such an inspiration. I watch every your video you are so good rider i cant believe
I love my hard tail. And videos like this is why I’ll always have one to ride. Full squish is nice, but they just leave something to be desired on the trail.
I made the switch to 29 last summer and I know what you mean. The most helpful thing for me to get used to the bigger wheels was leaning the bike over. Once I realized how much farther I needed to lean the bike to compensate the bigger wheels, it felt way more snappy. That doesn't necessarily help with tight turns, but it definitely helps to lessen that "big bike" feel in general
You could get a santa cruz chameleon. It's such a playful bike with the short chainstay. I absolutely love mine!
Pugs trek roscoe 8 is pretty good too. I have one and my only complaints are the brakes and the fork. The 2020 model fixed all that though.
@@yeetyeetpotatoskeet5263 my brother just bought a 2018 roscoe 8 not too long ago and I agree it's a very fun bike :)
Get a cheap fuji Nevada and put a few upgrades on it and it’s the ultimate hardtail
The video was really stable, definitely a good setup👍
Really good footage with the chin mount on the Hero 8. Loved those trails you rode. I really need to stop and check out those areas. In 2020 we have made a pact to not just go to Whistler when we cross over the border from Seattle. So much good stuff to ride up there. You should post some urban BMX vids if you still have yours. I bought a 26" Dobermann Molosse last year to keep at work and love getting out for lunch rides in downtown Seattle on it.
I can feel my calf's burn and crumble when seeing a HT on those trails! Had my FS bike in repair so I took my HT to the DH-tracks, not anything I'll do again! Babyhead sections almost killed me! =)
Note about the others being fast on hard tails, I guess it wasn't the first time for them on those trails? Just riding a trail a second time makes a huge difference since you already ridden it once and know the quirks and obstacles.
harri manni it really isn’t that bad, you just have to choose lines better, I’m from northern New Jersey where flow trails are an unheard of, and even the less techy trails still have boulders on them, the only thing i ride is my fuji Nevada and i can assure you it’s all about line choice
Kevin Kanning guess it’s about the bike too, had to take my hard tail to the bike park as I was waiting for parts for my full suspension, sure a few rides was fine but a full day made havoc on my legs! It was a 90s Gary Fisher Paragon alu frame and it was so punishing when something hit the rear wheel, even with fat dh tires with as low pressure as possible! Riding down a curb with it was painful.. ;)
I was getting arm pump just watching that. Sick riding dude! Those hard tail guys are INSANE!!!!
What brand of hardtails were those? Wow! Your friends can ride. So cool you can ride this time of year.
Salsa Timberjack and Kona Honzo. 👍
totally relatable with feeling uncomfortable after a crash, I was once feeling really confident and hauling it down pile of rocks eating up all the chunk but my front wheel got caught in a rut and I went over the bars, felt way too scared to go that fast after and took it half the speed and I felt really stiff aswell.
Great ride and video. Loved it!
I love my Whyte 909 hardtail. super aggressiv geometry, nice fox 34 fork and comfy 2.8 tyres… the feeling on the trail is just so much nicer and more intense compared to a fully
Get ya a hardtail, I love mine. My full suspension bike is a pivot Mach6 and honestly I think that I ride my hardtail a little faster. I’m actually in the process of building up a new “radical” hardtail using a chromag frame.
No wayyyyy! Love riding hardtails!
1. I was really liking the go-pro/chinmount for this video. I think it looks great. 2. With the onset of new geo, long low, there is something to be said for shorter maneuverable bikes on old school North Shore trails like these.
When anyone says they think they are under biked, send them this video. That was awesome
Man, those trails are rad!
Those trails look gnarly!
That was fun! Thanks for bringing us along :) \m/
YEEWWW!!!!
I just switched from hardtail to full sus, but my HT wasn't some boutique frame rolling on plus tires. If I were to ever get another HT I would build a 29er with plus tires on a frame with some compliance in it.
Every mountain biker should own a good hardtail. Riding one regularly will make u a better rider. They're less forgiving than a full suspension bike and expose your flaws as a rider allowing you to learn from your mistakes and get better.
I haven’t ridden a hardtail in 3 years ;) the impacts are reallllky hard on my legs :) mad respect to the hardtail!
Mountain biking is such a head game
Those trails look fun AF 👌
Amazing looking trail for sure
As you said in another video, its not the tool its the craftsmen ;) I ride just a hardtail and feel lazy when i switch back to a full sus bike hahaha. I ride a Marin San Quentin with all custom spec. You should most def get a hardtail. They are very rewarding, fast, efficient and low maintenance. There is def a learning curve but once you get used to it and using your legs as a shock as well as the motor, you'll love it!
Wow, you know you're riding some crazy stuff when it looks nuts on a GoPro. Riding tech in the wet is definitely not ideal, but I'd say you did quite well. That dude in front on the hardtail is clearly not a human, though.
it aint much but i hope it helps, keep shreddin the gnar Nick! and keep inspiring other riders to get out there and have fun :D
thanks!! glad you enjoy the videos :)
Looks so sick!
Would love to take my more than superb Bird Zero 29 HT out on those trails. Geez.
Do you even know how lucky you are having that kind of trails.
Wonderful content 👌🏼
Wow, sick ride!
@vancan - Are you able to share the set up details of your friends' hardtails? Also, hope you can share their method of setting up their forks, thanks
I use my 2020 rockhopper expert 1x on any dirt jump, downhill or xc trail I can find. It has yet to fail me.
Amazing guys!!!
Great video work.
I'd keep it.
Awesome ride.
Idkwhy its a surprise seeing hardtails at whistler and other big trail centres whack on some big burly plus sized tyres and you legit have a dual susser
Long live to hardtails! 🙌🤤
Hey dude, do you got any video of your camera settings? love the look of this pov!
Check out the loam rangers go pro setup videos. They explain it very well!
Have you ever seen the hidden mundy park trails in mundy park and the river view bike park trails in coquitlam?
Not yet!
Yes, I have a few Single speed hard tail riders that I ride with. This video is a reminder, "its the rider, not the bike" strong riders ride well on single speed and anything else the choose to ride.
Holly bump bumps bumper all the way down to town..! Hardtails are the best.
Nice video🙌
I learned to ride on a hardtail last year on the shore, it got stolen and I just picked up a full squish! I still want a hardtail in my life but I just can’t afford both right now
Love your video and the gimble its not nesesary looks verri nice
I wander if you can talk more abouth hardtails I have a doble suspemcion but miss to mucha a hard tail im.looking for a good 27.5 that can swich to 26 at rmthe rear meyby agresive hard tail.are awesome..meybe a 160 fork in the frot as wel love it!
Well if I get a hardtail I’ll do more videos about them!
I would definitely ride those trails on a smaller and quicker bike. 2020 Transition Scout or something flickable.
I will say you ride that extenda cab longbox pretty well.
Definitely a hardtail, I have both but find I use the hardtail more . I also find 650b plus better then 29er, best of both worlds
And the sonder transmitter is amazing , I know of a couple of guys in the states that have them , super aggressive
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I would think 29er would benefit a hardtail even more than a full sus?
The grade4 class thought your video was 3D because it looked so cool.
What kind of hardtail's they are riding?
Looks a dream to ride there
great video thx again, the Hero 8 was really stable through all that jank. Are you recording in 4K?
Yup 4k 24fps
@@VanCan awesome thanks
I imagine a hard tail on the north shore would make you a very good rider!
I think it would almost be easier on the woodwork, as long as the HT build was set up to be light and nimble.
Hy If you didn't say it I wouldn't have know it was a chin mount. How much is the go pro pointed down. If I do chinmounts I can't seem to get my handlebars in frame. Thanks for the feedback.
I had to play around with until I found the right angle.
yes
Get yourself a Trek Stache mate. I don't think I'll ever ride anything else :)
Hardtails may work the body yet the ride allows you to control every moment on the trail always remember you are the suspension along with your fork if your stiff the trails suck same when full suspensions don't perform well they suck to ride. So riding a hardtail is for a real rider to see feel and anticipate every rock root stump hole and mossy spot that occasionally gets super scary on certain days. And let's not forget hardtails loose minimal energy unless the rider hits the oh s@#t lever have fun good post
WOW looks silk
I really want to move back to the Island but its expensive to live out there who knows how the job market is.
Footage looks awesome man, certainly no need for a gimbal nowadays. What settings are you using, if you don't mind me asking?
4k. 24 FPS. And I colour correct with DaVinci Resolve
Footage looks great ;) At some point, you have to say.. why bother with the bulk and added hassle of the gimbal when the easy method gets you 95% of the way there?
I ride these trails all the time on my big honzo
I think I saw a Kona Honzo in there.
Do you think the shorter wheelbase on a hardtail would make it easier to hold speed on the tighter turns?
Probably. But the chunk on these trails would be a challenge!
Where did you find their recommended shock settings ? I just got my enduro
I just googled specialized suspension setup
Is Cameron on a Salsa Timberjack? Looks like it.... lmk van can!
The orange bike looks like a Timberjack. I ride the green version of the same frame. It's quite good in the chunk and tech with 29x2.6s.
Also ... #hardtailparty ! 😎👍🌴
How much do you weigh with your gear on? I’m about 215lbs geared and run 95 psi on my 36 Factory GRIP2 but it’s only 160mm so yours might need more if it’s 170... I do find the 36 rides better setup harder/faster as long as you ride it fast.
And those dudes are shredding! I love those trails but don’t ride em that fast on my 160/160... rider error of course haha
What kinda bike are you riding in this video
When did u find a sunny day it hasn't stopped raining
I haven't finished this video clip yet, but I'd love to know what kind of hardtails your two buddies in front of you are running? Please share.
Kona hanzo and a salsa something I think
Sick
Did you have the Hero 7 black before? Wondering if it's worth it to upgrade to the 8...
I still have the 7. The 8 is worth it if you do a lot of filming
Get a Diamondback Sync’r Carbon HT
Where do you find specialized suspension suggestions.
Teo Eckhardt on the specialized website. Go to your bike’s page and there should be a link to suspension setup
I tried finding mine but there was none.
www.specialized.com/us/en/suspension-calculator/app
I don’t have a choice, full suspension is expensive lol
What are your rendering settings? I find that even though my videos are recorded AND rendered in 1080p 60fps, it still looks blurry on youtube
Ya you have to export in 4k. 1080
On youtube is garbage
@@VanCan ok I'll try that thanks
Get a Chromag!
Rear suspension is overrated. What are those hardtails? Where do you get that rear fender?
How cold is it? Cos I imagine Vancouver like -56 degrees. Looks quite warm for February my miss is Canadian I would love to move to Vancouver those trail looks raddddd
Probably +3C
O God that cold I'm Australian we rarely go down 20... 12 we pretty much all dead under 12 we are surfing with 3/2 wetsuit...
What hard tail are you ridding?
How are you attaching the Gopro to your helmet??
Sticky mount on the chin bar
220 or 320 psi ??
I’m gonna be honest the video looks better on the Hardtail or it could just be me
Where did you put the GoPro
Chin bar
VanCan thanks dude I am thinking of getting a GoPro