I was taught to write the firing order down put the last 4under the first 4 in the firing order with hydro lifters. So when #1 is top dead center intake stroke #6 is top dead center exhaust stroke. And so on making just 4 lifter. adjustments
I certainly am lost on that one. It's been many years for me. If I remember right I had the luxury of adjusting sometimes with the intake off so I could visually see the pair of lifters all the way down and surely on the base. To set your zero lash. Would that be right??
Technically, there's no break in for Roller Lifters like there is for Flat Tappets. The Rings are a different story. Those need to be bedded under load to seat to the cylinder walls.
You know that's a year ago. The engine is together and in the car. Morel lifters have a good reputation, and quite a few companies use them and put their own logo on them.
I see you have installed your oil valley tray do the roller lifters roll on the center of the cam lobe or are they off center of the cam lobe i ask because there is a picture someone posted showing the roller lifters running off to one side of the lobe i don't know who's cam he is using but he is using the same lifters you are
@underdoggtvwelovetheunderd9645 no. There are plenty of rocker swaps and upper valve train kits around. You should consult an engine builder or machine shop for better instruction and advise.
@@Blessed_be_Israel No. If you do, your fighting the hydraulic pressure in the lifter instead of the spring. Oil the outside and do your adjustments and then prime the engine before start. That will get oil to the lifters.
Hutch- how tall are those rocker studs you are using. Would they be 1.75 effective thread length? I see many lengths listed on summit. I think I'm going with the Harland Sharp rockers as well.
There's a engine GM should've kept Oldsmobile,at least if not the cars, Oldsmobile engines are more advanced than Chevrolet engines, their bow tie blocks were Chevys best engine,455 rocket engines were built for torque and durability, would be nice to see those engines being reproduced today by somebody why is it everybody and their grand mother wants to make billions of replacement engines and parts for Chevy engines bow tie blocks and LS swap kit Oldsmobile engines are still the best long since their demise.
That is so ridiculous, just adjust them like a normal person. When exhaust just opens, adjust intake. When intake just closes adjust the exhaust. Its called the EOIC method.
Saw that rocker arm adjustment video from Ellison's Machine Shop a while back and have been using that technique ever since. Absolutely ingenious!
Still one of my favorite TH-camrs very nice and well put together car
Aw shucks! Thank you.
Brilliant method. Same method used by the Vice Grip Garage guy
Thanks!
Thank you brother!
Hey there love your videos, where did you get the squeeze bottle when you’re adding the lightweight oil thank you
@@JonThibault-z1k it's a 250ml Wash Bottle. I got it off of Amazon years ago.
I was taught to write the firing order down put the last 4under the first 4 in the firing order with hydro lifters. So when #1 is top dead center intake stroke #6 is top dead center exhaust stroke. And so on making just 4 lifter. adjustments
Using hyd roller was a smart move
Thank you
I certainly am lost on that one. It's been many years for me. If I remember right I had the luxury of adjusting sometimes with the intake off so I could visually see the pair of lifters all the way down and surely on the base. To set your zero lash. Would that be right??
You don't need to see that with this method. Put the timing mark on zero and just keep turning the crank 90 degrees until all are adjusted.
great looking project, easy way to adjust valves. where can i purchase the oiler bottle you used? thanks
Thank you! This is where I got it www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G7MSGFA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I see you are using the best assembly lube you can get.
Hi what's the name of this assembly lube ?
What's the breaking procedure on those roller ? Thanks
Technically, there's no break in for Roller Lifters like there is for Flat Tappets. The Rings are a different story. Those need to be bedded under load to seat to the cylinder walls.
Thank you, I'm building a 455 olds was going with flat cam until I seen this video.
Going with the roller let's you not worry about using high zinc oils or having to pay $15 a quart sometime in the future.
I build my olds BB with Mondello instructions. The original Mondello.
All those Olds Gurus are fading away. I'm glad they passed the knowledge down in writings and magazine articles over the years.
WHAT about if you use Rhoads variable lifters?
You know that's a year ago. The engine is together and in the car. Morel lifters have a good reputation, and quite a few companies use them and put their own logo on them.
quick question ,i use Johnson hydraulic roller lifters on a 400 Pontiac ,is 3/4 of a turn apply to all hydraulic rollers ?
That's the usual. 1/2 to 3/4 turn. Check with the manufacturer and see what their recommendation is.
@@hutchhiperf than you
Did you use any oil restrictions in the block or use oil restriction push rods ?
Nope, none at all. I do use a standard volume oil pump though.
I'm cheap, I drill a smaller hole 90deg from the original one in the cam bearings and install them myself in the correct orientation.
I see you have installed your oil valley tray do the roller lifters roll on the center of the cam lobe or are they off center of the cam lobe i ask because there is a picture someone posted showing the roller lifters running off to one side of the lobe i don't know who's cam he is using but he is using the same lifters you are
It looked to me like they were centered on the lobe, but to be honest I never looked that close.
If you change roller rockers and push rods , is it necessary to change cam?
@underdoggtvwelovetheunderd9645 no. There are plenty of rocker swaps and upper valve train kits around. You should consult an engine builder or machine shop for better instruction and advise.
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Hi there whats the assembly lube oil you using for lifters i cant make out the name on video thanks and nice video very informative
Permatex Ultra Slick
@@hutchhiperf hi sir thanks you so much for that take care
Hi there I forgot to ask when adjusting the rockers with the 90 degree adjustments do I need to presoak the hydraulic roller lifters ?
@@Blessed_be_Israel No. If you do, your fighting the hydraulic pressure in the lifter instead of the spring. Oil the outside and do your adjustments and then prime the engine before start. That will get oil to the lifters.
What's the length on the push rods
Hutch- how tall are those rocker studs you are using. Would they be 1.75 effective thread length? I see many lengths listed on summit. I think I'm going with the Harland Sharp rockers as well.
They are what came on the Edelbrock Heads. I didn't measure. Their website may say.
Nice where did you find the metallic blue paint
Right here. www.thorntonmusclecars.com/paint
Stock covers fit over those roller rockers?
What intake are u gonna use? Will it clear those lifers?
Go to 2:55 of this video. You get a good look at it. It's an Offy 360 Dual Quad high rise. th-cam.com/video/O7AbPxPvI_I/w-d-xo.html
Why not just do the old school Torque the bolts between 20 and 25 lbs each?
This isn't a rocker rail. They're individual rockers, so you have to do it this way.
There's a engine GM should've kept Oldsmobile,at least if not the cars, Oldsmobile engines are more advanced than Chevrolet engines, their bow tie blocks were Chevys best engine,455 rocket engines were built for torque and durability, would be nice to see those engines being reproduced today by somebody why is it everybody and their grand mother wants to make billions of replacement engines and parts for Chevy engines bow tie blocks and LS swap kit Oldsmobile engines are still the best long since their demise.
Ask, and ye shall receive....rocketracingperformance.com/rrp-olds-block
That is so ridiculous, just adjust them like a normal person. When exhaust just opens, adjust intake. When intake just closes adjust the exhaust. Its called the EOIC method.
I didn't know I was abnormal. I'll have to get that checked 😁
What's the length on the pushrods
They're in this video th-cam.com/video/Obvai_wyR2o/w-d-xo.html