Good review, Stu, thanks. Is that Tina in the background? Would love to see more vids with her too. Very few lady bowlers making vids, could get you more subscribers.
My 2nd zen seeme a lot smoother than the first one, I bet this would be a perfect one to get to accompany it. The drop between the zen and the iq nano and night road that I normally drop to would be less severe if nothing else.
I already ordered this one, have been waiting for a dark colored zen that wasn't urethane or overseas. Great seeing you in San Antonio over the weekend Stu. I watched you all three days.
Really like the look of this ball. Low rev low speed player with the tour dynam x as first ball and Pso has me in the absolute as second ball but Luis N thinks either this one or the new tnt infused would be a better second ball your thought please
9:30 I do t think you left a 7 pin with the G L zen, but the P4 you did. I like this G L Ball, being it looks good on right side, do you think most likely being a lefty I would have to play 17-4,5 to pocket? Thanks Beef for all the great vids you put out. I also send these to my teammates. Oh did you break the cover with 2k or 3k then a stage 2 compound/polish? Thank you
Hey Stu, could you bring the camera down closer to lane level so we can see the ball rotating, seeing friction through the taper that you're bowling on so we get a sense of how slow/quick/strong/weak through the lane?
Maybe. Right now I’m a 1 man show. This setup is the easiest for me to create content. Hard to see around myself, ball return etc to see ball shape from different angles
Definitely the head pin on that shot. Excited to see how it looks on sport. Watched Kyle Sherman try it at a regional. Wasn't the nut on that particular pattern 😅
The sport video is proving tricky. Ball clearly isn’t designed for fresh, and if I film on transition, it might as well be just about any pattern. Open to ideas
@BeefandBarnzy Would be cool to see it on something longer. 45-48ft Start with a Summit, then go to a zen, phase 2, Gold Label. Or Just an eye test ball might be good on like a 39ft chameleon when you *usually need to swing it. Especially when it transitions. Looking forward to it.
Think this is stronger than Wolverine. Probably closer to zen than Wolverine. If you like zen Wolverine 1-2 punch, I couldn’t think Of better options to fill Your bag
Stu. Low rev. Speed dominate. I have Gem, Exotic Gem, Phase 2 , Zen, IQRuby, phase 5, cosmos,and hyroad pearl. Its this overkill? I domt think have spot for this ball? Any suggestions what to maybe swap out w overlaps?
what's sitting in my bag right now is Phaze 2, infinite physix, hyroad pearl, and Zen U. Is this something that would fit? Im thinking the hyroad pearl already fits in this slot...but idk
I just got mine today and drilled it, practiced on Dragon, and I don't think it's even close. Dark Code cover is MUCH stronger, combined with asymmetry and it's a lot different.
Cleaner and more continuous. To me they aren’t really that close apart from the color. But I’ve been asked this a bunch of times now, so maybe I’m missing something
Our boy Stu is SWEATIN' putting in that work.
Ball looks fantastic to be honest.
Zen gold label looks so pretty man.. I am definitely interested in seeing how this ball pairs in my bag with my summit and eternity!
Good review, Stu, thanks. Is that Tina in the background? Would love to see more vids with her too. Very few lady bowlers making vids, could get you more subscribers.
Ok, will look to incorporate her into some future videos
Thank you, Stuart! I have P4 and was wondering what the major difference was between that and the Z-GL. Now I know. Appreciate the video.
177 AVG here. Had this ball 5 weeks. Already 4-5 230s. Second game out of box was 235.
Buy two!!!
Great review Stu! Definitely going to consider adding this ball for my bag.
My 2nd zen seeme a lot smoother than the first one, I bet this would be a perfect one to get to accompany it. The drop between the zen and the iq nano and night road that I normally drop to would be less severe if nothing else.
I already ordered this one, have been waiting for a dark colored zen that wasn't urethane or overseas.
Great seeing you in San Antonio over the weekend Stu. I watched you all three days.
Thanks for the support!
Really like the look of this ball. Low rev low speed player with the tour dynam x as first ball and Pso has me in the absolute as second ball but Luis N thinks either this one or the new tnt infused would be a better second ball your thought please
Great vid Stu. Love the commentary and like the ball ALOT!
9:30 I do t think you left a 7 pin with the G L zen, but the P4 you did. I like this G L Ball, being it looks good on right side, do you think most likely being a lefty I would have to play 17-4,5 to pocket? Thanks Beef for all the great vids you put out. I also send these to my teammates. Oh did you break the cover with 2k or 3k then a stage 2 compound/polish? Thank you
What do you think of the gold label v the hy road pearl?
So do you think it will be a ball you use after the original zen..??
So if I throw my zen and phase 4 good, could I add this or replace one of them? Great video as always
Probably a replacement for the Phaze 4 rather than zen
Hey Stu, could you bring the camera down closer to lane level so we can see the ball rotating, seeing friction through the taper that you're bowling on so we get a sense of how slow/quick/strong/weak through the lane?
Maybe. Right now I’m a 1 man show. This setup is the easiest for me to create content. Hard to see around myself, ball return etc to see ball shape from different angles
Definitely the head pin on that shot. Excited to see how it looks on sport. Watched Kyle Sherman try it at a regional. Wasn't the nut on that particular pattern 😅
The sport video is proving tricky. Ball clearly isn’t designed for fresh, and if I film on transition, it might as well be just about any pattern. Open to ideas
@BeefandBarnzy Would be cool to see it on something longer. 45-48ft Start with a Summit, then go to a zen, phase 2, Gold Label. Or Just an eye test ball might be good on like a 39ft chameleon when you *usually need to swing it. Especially when it transitions. Looking forward to it.
Yeah I saw that pin almost stand up… not sure which one.. maybe the 4 pin??
Down and in for us average folks, looks good
Would you say this ball is to close to the wolverine to have them both? I currently use the wolverine after my zen. Great vids BTW.
Think this is stronger than Wolverine. Probably closer to zen than Wolverine. If you like zen Wolverine 1-2 punch, I couldn’t think
Of better options to fill
Your bag
Do you see the zen gold label being in the bag with the zen soul and zen in league nights ?
If you feel like the zen becomes a little early or smooth. The gold label will be ideal compliment
This ball is looking really good, but I have the Phaze4 (pin down) working really well for me, so I don't think I need this just yet.
Stu. Low rev. Speed dominate. I have Gem, Exotic Gem, Phase 2 , Zen, IQRuby, phase 5, cosmos,and hyroad pearl. Its this overkill? I domt think have spot for this ball? Any suggestions what to maybe swap out w overlaps?
Yeh, it would probably be a Phaze 5 replacement. More angular than both Phaze 5 and Ruby
I think it was the head pin.
Wow, I haven’t had chance
To slow it down yet. Wild
Would you say that this ball could also be in the same bag as the regular Zen?
Yes
Did you make any surface adjustments?
No box
what's sitting in my bag right now is Phaze 2, infinite physix, hyroad pearl, and Zen U. Is this something that would fit? Im thinking the hyroad pearl already fits in this slot...but idk
Yeh, this would fit nicely between infinite and Hyroad pearl. Definitely a decent
Step up from Hyroad
Oh, you did not want Tina to come over to show you up. HAHA #Buff
Guilty! Haha
Nice review Beef, is this ball close to a Dark Code?
I just got mine today and drilled it, practiced on Dragon, and I don't think it's even close. Dark Code cover is MUCH stronger, combined with asymmetry and it's a lot different.
Not that similar other than the color. Dark code is stronger overall and maybe a little less controllable
Stu don't forget to get that Clucking Chicken Sandwich Spicy!!!!!
Would this be a good replacement for the Zen Soul?
Not really. Zen soul replacement is really Phaze 2
Awesome I will be buying a Gold Label ball Zayn
How to do think the gold label compares to original idol with polish?
Gold Label way more angular for me
@@BeefandBarnzy thank you!
I see Mrs Beef down there!
How would you guys compare this to the dark code?
Cleaner and more continuous. To me they aren’t really that close apart from the color. But I’ve been asked this a bunch of times now, so maybe I’m missing something
I wanna use this ball!
Can you compare it to the Dark Code? They look similar...
Dark code would be a slightly stronger ball just basing it off specs alone. But color and pour wise they are almost twins lol
Zen GL is cleaner and more controllable than dark code. Dark code stronger overall
Great video Stu but you struck with everything from everywhere 😂😂😂😂 so didn't really get a comparison
I’m just a house shot hero. I’ll remember to miss next time haha
@@BeefandBarnzy 😂😂💪🏾💪🏾
I think the Zen Gold Label is a weaker Dark Code Beef Stu.
Never heard of that one
Guessing this is the end of the Zen ball? Gold, Platinum? 😅
I’d venture to guess we see more of them, especially while people keep supporting the Line
Nice to see the celebrity in the vid... Miss Tina 😅
Zen looks great. STU sounds like hes dying😊
The things I go thru to bring you guys ball reviews! Haha
Im Still hooked on the Altered Reality lol. Caught in the do i throw it or not ,because of the soft ban!! That was BS too.
Throw any of the balls when you are allowed.