The older vehicles are simpler and more predictable and I generally agree with that. The only problem with older cars is rust in areas where they used too much salt on the roads
This is why I always look for used cars for a potential "new" vehicle. No one likes becoming an involuntary Quality Assurance tester for something fresh on the market. I got my eye on the new Camrys and I'm waiting to see what kinks will be worked out before they hit the used market.
It's crazy what's going on in the industry. They forgot what its like to make a simple affordable reliable car spurred on by bad legislation and obssession for MPG's/EV's
I don't think it is the way the vehicles are driven. I was shocked to see people in the comments blame the driver under the videos show the cars catching on fire. I felt so sorry for the drivers watching their brand new cars burning.
The GR 86 is a Subaru Engine, not a Toyota Engine. Generally the 1st 2 years of anything new will have issues. At least Toyota is making an effort to cover the customer.
It's not just Toyota, but Honda too. Oh look, the Turbo-charged 4-cylinder engine for the Civic in 2025 is gone! I wonder why? Not really. You can get a naturally aspirated 4-cylinder pumping out 155hp., or you can get a 200hp. Hybrid Turbo-charged option. But no more 180hp. turbo-charged, non-hybrid. Too many issues. Steering wheel issues too. I'm looking around and as a Mazda owner, my favorite brand is now King of the Mountain for Japanese reliability, and performance.
The death of Toyota by Turbo. I will never own anything with a turbo. Nothing but problems. I love my 20 Tundra. I drive it hard and it never even has a hiccup. The only penalty is when driven hard, it drinks gas. Yesterday some guy in his hopped up Acura tried to race me from a red light. Well, all it did was screech the tires. The 5.7 is no slouch..it has gobs of power. There are some 5.7 s that have gone a million miles.
Great point Mike, turbos are fine for racing but for daily drivers built for durability, it’s not the best design. Simple, proven, NA engines are the best for many miles to move family and do daily work activities
They are overcharging so much for the vehicles that they just plan for the dealers to be the quality control. They gamble that the car will be fine. If it is they get all that extra profit. If not, they have already figured in 5000+ for recall work anyway. We've all paid for that bad quality up front. Strange model but we pay for bad quality by paying more for the vehicle.
You are right. I do have faith and they have already started making arrangements for new 3.4 engines and then8 speed auto is being addressed. Time will tell but it’s unfortunate that there are this many troubles in such a short period of time
I had a 1998 Toyota estima 2.2 diesel and that was known to blow headgaskets and crack the engine from over heating. Now I have a 2002 Toyota estima minivan with the 2.4 petrol before the problems in around 2005 when the 2.4 had the dodgey piston rings that burn oil. I agree with another commenter that Toyota has put out some lemons at times, a prime example is the d4d diesel in UK spec previas circa 2000-2006 these motors were known to go into limp mode and as a diesel would not make it past 100,000 to 150,000 miles which is bad for a diesel. I would agree that Toyota is putting out more problems nowadays - great video!
I suspect at least some of the legendary "toyota quality" is just hype that has been repeated so much, that folks just accepted it as fact and truth. Tacoma, Tundra, Sequoia and Four-runner frame rusting problems anyone ? Toyota like all the manufacturers have built some dogs. I'd still buy one. I'm considering a new Tacoma to replace my 2006 Frontier, because the Taco is about the only truck left that I can still get a manual transmission.
I currently drive a 2015 Honda accord touring with over 300k and still runs great with no issues and im looking to buy a 2015 honda pilot we need the 8 seater but im keeping the accord 😮
I've only heard good things about the 2025 Camry so far and I didn't see any major issues in this video. I don't use the infotainment system setup in my Camrys as I don't want my car to be connected to the internet. I haven't had any problems with my 2012 and 2018 Camrys and Toyota has a good reputation in dealing with recall issues generally. The CVT tech in the Camry was introduced in 2017 and I assume that they have any problems worked out now. Hybrid has been around for a lot longer I think so those should be bulletproof now. I would not be surprised to see pandemic-era issues, particularly with car sitting around for long periods of time waiting around for parts before they could be sold but they seem to have been selling all that they could make for 2024 up until maybe two months ago. I've not heard of problems with the 2024 Prius or Corolla (outside of the sport model) and you're probably not going to want that anyways if you're buying a Corolla. I'm not really sure what demographic they're going after with that model. Most people that want a cheap, performance car buy an old Accura or Honda and then soup it up.
I know how that company works, I am not worried. They still have the lowest failure rates as a whole than any other brand I will roll the dice on them over any other brand. Does not mean I will get a good one, but my odds are I will get a good one:P
@@ECPP I agree, but I will give it a little more time because of the complexity of things now days. They still have to meet government regulations and that is why they have had no choice but to go with turbo chargers etc. Just know this they will now take what they have designed and make it bullet proof over time because Toyota has the tech to last many years before having to re-design again. They have always taken what they have and improved it over time. I never buy Toyotas the 1st 2 years of a new design I wait 3-4 years then buy. Just my rule I follow. Our 2020 Camry was 2 years in a little too soon for me to buy, but they were already showing good signs by 2020 they had worked out the early transmission failures and they were down to a minimum and the gear hunting was also solved. Honda on the other hand has seen drastic quality changes I am worried about them they are not the Honda of old for sure!
I babied my 2020 Camry and it was a piece of junk. That 8-speed transmission and most of the other systems in the car had serious to annoying issues. I don't baby our 12 year old Ford and it hasn't had any issues. Unlike the 2020 Camry, most everything it does is predictable. It doesn't mean I'd buy a new Ford. The Camry was dangerous to drive. That Toyota Safety Sense almost got me in to a wreck a few times. It encouraged me, through fear of death, to not relax, keep both hands on the steering wheel and a foot near the pedals.
If we had a Mazda dealership within 50 miles, I would buy a Mazda3. I will never trust a small engine with turbo and a CVT - that seems to be the way other manufacturers are going. Maybe I’ll just drive the 100 miles to get one. Any advice? Thanks.
I bought a Mazda 3 around a year ago for the exact same reasons you’re stating. NA engine and torque converter transmission is the way to go. And the Mazda 3 has had a great reliability record. Go for it.
I am a great fan of toyota and lexusWhen they started with this TURBO SHIT I was very upsetI am not surprised nowThey should get rid of all these TURBOS and everything will be OK.Long live the GOD of motor vehicles
Hmm. Oddly, JD Powers disagrees with your suggestion. Of all 2024 cars, Lexus (Toyota) had the #1 overall rating. For mass market Toyota had the #1 rating. J.D. Power, unlike others monitors cars during their earliest years, rather than long term like Consumer Reports. I don't think many will say that the Prius, the Camry, or the Corolla are crappily built cars. l concur, however that Toyota's swing to downsized engines came with a penalty, but Toyota has been quite adept at mitigating their issues. That's what l would be watching: , How are they fixing issues, like Honda with its gasoline/oil dilution problem? I'll give it a year or two to see how they do. Right now is a bad time to buy with interest rates still falling and dealers desperately clinging to full MSRP, or MSRP+ on Hybrids. lMHO.
All of today's vehicles are way overpriced, and piss poorly made with cheap ass parts. But wait there's more. Buy that POS and get Recall fornicated. How cool is that? A fool and his money are soon parted is truer today than ever before
Is just 2 truck models that have issues, not the whole Toyota lineup, compared to Hyundai or Kia which every car they make has a problem, Please be specific, please stop with the Clickbait
My mechanic friend told me, that if u have a good car that works, fix what’s wrong and keep it.
The older vehicles are simpler and more predictable and I generally agree with that. The only problem with older cars is rust in areas where they used too much salt on the roads
I'm sure after your mechanic said that, he said to himself, "Just bring it to me, so l can fleece you too"!!!😂
Hard to believe you can screw up a manual transmission.
That’s what I was thinking too
This is why I always look for used cars for a potential "new" vehicle. No one likes becoming an involuntary Quality Assurance tester for something fresh on the market. I got my eye on the new Camrys and I'm waiting to see what kinks will be worked out before they hit the used market.
It's crazy what's going on in the industry. They forgot what its like to make a simple affordable reliable car spurred on by bad legislation and obssession for MPG's/EV's
Exactly
I don't think it is the way the vehicles are driven. I was shocked to see people in the comments blame the driver under the videos show the cars catching on fire. I felt so sorry for the drivers watching their brand new cars burning.
I agree, first default for manufacturers is to blame someone else and it’s a world of cover your a-
The GR 86 is a Subaru Engine, not a Toyota Engine. Generally the 1st 2 years of anything new will have issues. At least Toyota is making an effort to cover the customer.
It's not just Toyota, but Honda too. Oh look, the Turbo-charged 4-cylinder engine for the Civic in 2025 is gone! I wonder why? Not really. You can get a naturally aspirated 4-cylinder pumping out 155hp., or you can get a 200hp. Hybrid Turbo-charged option. But no more 180hp. turbo-charged, non-hybrid. Too many issues. Steering wheel issues too. I'm looking around and as a Mazda owner, my favorite brand is now King of the Mountain for Japanese reliability, and performance.
The death of Toyota by Turbo. I will never own anything with a turbo. Nothing but problems. I love my 20 Tundra. I drive it hard and it never even has a hiccup. The only penalty is when driven hard, it drinks gas. Yesterday some guy in his hopped up Acura tried to race me from a red light. Well, all it did was screech the tires. The 5.7 is no slouch..it has gobs of power. There are some 5.7 s that have gone a million miles.
Great point Mike, turbos are fine for racing but for daily drivers built for durability, it’s not the best design. Simple, proven, NA engines are the best for many miles to move family and do daily work activities
Toyota was known for reliability. So far, I haven't had any issues on my 2023 Toyota Corolla LE Hybrid sedan. But it only has 10K on it.
They are overcharging so much for the vehicles that they just plan for the dealers to be the quality control. They gamble that the car will be fine. If it is they get all that extra profit. If not, they have already figured in 5000+ for recall work anyway. We've all paid for that bad quality up front. Strange model but we pay for bad quality by paying more for the vehicle.
I agree, the consumer always seems to lose on this game
Hopefully they will face these problems head on with honesty and with integrity .
How Toyota handles this will say a lot about their culture.
You are right. I do have faith and they have already started making arrangements for new 3.4 engines and then8 speed auto is being addressed. Time will tell but it’s unfortunate that there are this many troubles in such a short period of time
Nobody talks about Mazda.
As far as I'm concerned, they are the best quality for the price right now.
Yeah...super glad i bought a frontier instead.
The frontier plays with a NA V6
So far im happy with my 2023 Camry v6.But only has 8k miles on it.Trans shifts real smooth.
I'm keeping my 06' Tacoma, my 10' FJ my 08 RX350 forever......
That’s a keeper. If you have a good one that works, it may be best to keep it
I had a 1998 Toyota estima 2.2 diesel and that was known to blow headgaskets and crack the engine from over heating. Now I have a 2002 Toyota estima minivan with the 2.4 petrol before the problems in around 2005 when the 2.4 had the dodgey piston rings that burn oil. I agree with another commenter that Toyota has put out some lemons at times, a prime example is the d4d diesel in UK spec previas circa 2000-2006 these motors were known to go into limp mode and as a diesel would not make it past 100,000 to 150,000 miles which is bad for a diesel. I would agree that Toyota is putting out more problems nowadays - great video!
I suspect at least some of the legendary "toyota quality" is just hype that has been repeated so much, that folks just accepted it as fact and truth.
Tacoma, Tundra, Sequoia and Four-runner frame rusting problems anyone ? Toyota like all the manufacturers have built some dogs.
I'd still buy one. I'm considering a new Tacoma to replace my 2006 Frontier, because the Taco is about the only truck left that I can still get a manual transmission.
Yes I agree, I came across a beautiful new manual Tacoma slightly used that looked very intriguing
Sooner or later buying a new car will be a headache.
Man, I miss the snow. Great video.
I currently drive a 2015 Honda accord touring with over 300k and still runs great with no issues and im looking to buy a 2015 honda pilot we need the 8 seater but im keeping the accord 😮
So does"24 Lexus have the same problems??
...in the meantime...KIAs and Hyundais keep getting better and BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no they don't
Kia's and Hyundai's....sure...lol
By better you mean what? Are Kias and Hyundai getting more reliable?
I've only heard good things about the 2025 Camry so far and I didn't see any major issues in this video. I don't use the infotainment system setup in my Camrys as I don't want my car to be connected to the internet. I haven't had any problems with my 2012 and 2018 Camrys and Toyota has a good reputation in dealing with recall issues generally. The CVT tech in the Camry was introduced in 2017 and I assume that they have any problems worked out now. Hybrid has been around for a lot longer I think so those should be bulletproof now. I would not be surprised to see pandemic-era issues, particularly with car sitting around for long periods of time waiting around for parts before they could be sold but they seem to have been selling all that they could make for 2024 up until maybe two months ago.
I've not heard of problems with the 2024 Prius or Corolla (outside of the sport model) and you're probably not going to want that anyways if you're buying a Corolla. I'm not really sure what demographic they're going after with that model. Most people that want a cheap, performance car buy an old Accura or Honda and then soup it up.
That’s what happens when you send the factories to Mexico. 🤬 They don’t care. They can’t afford these vehicles. 🚗 😅
Except cars out of Japanese factories are having the same problems. Stop spreading nonsense
I know how that company works, I am not worried. They still have the lowest failure rates as a whole than any other brand I will roll the dice on them over any other brand. Does not mean I will get a good one, but my odds are I will get a good one:P
It’s still a solid bet but it’s a little worrying with the amount of challenges that speak to quality control
@@ECPP I agree, but I will give it a little more time because of the complexity of things now days. They still have to meet government regulations and that is why they have had no choice but to go with turbo chargers etc. Just know this they will now take what they have designed and make it bullet proof over time because Toyota has the tech to last many years before having to re-design again. They have always taken what they have and improved it over time. I never buy Toyotas the 1st 2 years of a new design I wait 3-4 years then buy. Just my rule I follow. Our 2020 Camry was 2 years in a little too soon for me to buy, but they were already showing good signs by 2020 they had worked out the early transmission failures and they were down to a minimum and the gear hunting was also solved. Honda on the other hand has seen drastic quality changes I am worried about them they are not the Honda of old for sure!
Is a 2006 manual transmission, Honda Accord a good car? I'm thinking of buying it.
I think it mostly has to do with new configuration on a lot of models happening right around the same time. Shouldn't have done it like that
An EXCELLENT video...as always!! Thanks!!! The temptation to sell cheap crap at inflated prices has overwhelmed Toyota. Sad.
Go for to the 10 years old ones ...
Or even the 5 years old and many are still great with the 3.5, 5.7,4.0 etc
I babied my 2020 Camry and it was a piece of junk. That 8-speed transmission and most of the other systems in the car had serious to annoying issues. I don't baby our 12 year old Ford and it hasn't had any issues. Unlike the 2020 Camry, most everything it does is predictable. It doesn't mean I'd buy a new Ford. The Camry was dangerous to drive. That Toyota Safety Sense almost got me in to a wreck a few times. It encouraged me, through fear of death, to not relax, keep both hands on the steering wheel and a foot near the pedals.
If we had a Mazda dealership within 50 miles, I would buy a Mazda3. I will never trust a small engine with turbo and a CVT - that seems to be the way other manufacturers are going. Maybe I’ll just drive the 100 miles to get one. Any advice? Thanks.
I bought a Mazda 3 around a year ago for the exact same reasons you’re stating. NA engine and torque converter transmission is the way to go.
And the Mazda 3 has had a great reliability record. Go for it.
Their not made in Japan anymore.
Canada, US and Mexico
Beginning of the ending of reliability
It’s an industry shift with the pursuit of costs savings and advancement of fragile tech is leading to these issues with most brand
touch wood my 23 cross has worked ok. so far, not many miles on her though.
Nice
Luckiky most Toyota vehicles are hybrids, no turbos.. Its tbose Turbo powertrains with the most issues. All trucks and the GR Corolla
Toyota got a new CEO about three years ago. Seems to be doing a shity job. Maybe too much cost cutting.
Still trust Toyota over all the other brands
Yes they are still
More trustworthy than most other brands. Mazda is a serious contender these days
@ECPP so is Nissan Maxima v6 normally aspirated the best
Camry is Tha best🎉
Tha beast 🎉
I am buying new 2025 ,one
With 45-50 mpg, E-cvt
Yes yess yesss🎉
Camry is Tha best🎉
Things that make me go Hmmm > 1:52 sec they don't make me go Hmmm @ all i know exactly whats going on and (YOU DO TOO) 😮
Will Toyota fix the problems, or will they keep churning out junk like GM Ford & Chrysler have for 50 years?
we can see all problems in feature
Indeed many more troubles for most car brands coming
I am a great fan of toyota and lexusWhen they started with this TURBO SHIT I was very upsetI am not surprised nowThey should get rid of all these TURBOS and everything will be OK.Long live the GOD of motor vehicles
Toyota started copying ford 😂
I might as well buy a Kia and save the cash
Hmm. Oddly, JD Powers disagrees with your suggestion. Of all 2024 cars, Lexus (Toyota) had the #1 overall rating. For mass market Toyota had the #1 rating.
J.D. Power, unlike others monitors cars during their earliest years, rather than long term like Consumer Reports. I don't think many will say that the Prius, the Camry, or the Corolla are crappily built cars.
l concur, however that Toyota's swing to downsized engines came with a penalty, but Toyota has been quite adept at mitigating their issues. That's what l would be watching: , How are they fixing issues, like Honda with its gasoline/oil dilution problem?
I'll give it a year or two to see how they do. Right now is a bad time to buy with interest rates still falling and dealers desperately clinging to full MSRP, or MSRP+ on Hybrids.
lMHO.
EV crap, electronics, computers , turbos ……garbage ……cut cost of new cars …..get rid of as much garbage as possible
All of today's vehicles are way overpriced, and piss poorly made with cheap ass parts. But wait there's more. Buy that POS and get Recall fornicated. How cool is that? A fool and his money are soon parted is truer today than ever before
Is just 2 truck models that have issues, not the whole Toyota lineup, compared to Hyundai or Kia which every car they make has a problem, Please be specific, please stop with the Clickbait
Damn
In fairness to Toyota, the GR86 has a Subaru boxer engine and the oil starvation problem is Subaru's fault.
"All new Toyota's are plagued with with problems" Are you serious bro? Anything for clicks
Times are changing. We have faith things can get better, but…..
CPBO.
Aren’t you paying attention? Toyota has never had these kinds of issues before.
@@NorthofYou1 yeah and why now? Greed? More profit now to take advantage of past reliability accolades? Honda traveled that road