@@nathanbedford3666 The horn sounds like a strangled cat. Why couldn't they have just specified some Leslie Super Tyfons like the pairs used on DFT and DX locos?
+douro20 Power to weight ratio is a lot better with the MTU 4000 series over the 645 series. The 240 series has made a comeback by Cat/EMD as the 1010 T4 series
fantastic video mate, but poor form locos. burried neck deep in traction motor issues, electrical faults and computer failures. the only thing that works properly is the engine, which wasn't built by dalian. kinda reminds me of the Australian XA class locomotive, withdrawn in a few years
30 years is supposed to be the "projected service life" of a locomotive, at least back in the X and XA class' day. The engine that powered them was originally meant to power a submarine, and when it failed at that, they put it into a locomotive. Westrail's engineers eventually developed their own solutions for their various engine bugs, but you wonder about the axle layout: double bogeys at each end, and four under the engine
Simple: Using steam locomotive rules to design diesels makes sense for the era. Baldwin centipedes, NZR Df class, the X and XA, and early electric locomotives all throughout the world, like the Ce 6/8 Krokodil, Little Joe, Ed class, NYCRR S and P motors and so on
What?? The WAGR X and XAs ran for over 32 years. And thier biggest problem was the Crossley HSTVee8 pulse charge 2 stroke engine. So not sure what your talking about?
@kaizerzydeco The tracks are no longer in use and if they were, the axle load of the locos was too great for the wharf therefore the reason for the multi-wheel transporters that spread the weight more evenly.
I wont say that they are great looking loco's, but I hope they are reliable and economical. Must be a huge improvment on the 1970's era Diesel loco's in service at the mo. ...and i have to say the horn sounds a little 'Gay'!
Those horns sound like sick cat meowing. Give me a GE / GM set of Leslie Supertyfons any day! Real horns for real locos. As could be expected, these pieces of junk have been anything but reliable and economical. Plagued with a plethora of problems from day one. See Tim Sandhu's comments above, and he didn't mention the asbestos found in every loco - despite the specifications clearly stating there was to be no asbestos used.
Nice vid bro - but that's where the compliments stop because the DL Class locos are proving to be nothing other than shameful dog tucker. FAIL! They are no where near in the same class of high class chronic long term performance the DX Class locomotives have proven to be. The DIXIES will never be beaten as this country's greatest ever locomotive in the history of rail transport in NZ as far as this Kiwi is concerned.
An absolutely excellent piece of video work. Thanks for the look at the 'dog bones' across the water.
Muito legal ver a inauguração das novas locomotivas da Kiwi Raul parabéns
When did they change from GE type locos?, ie. "USA Dash type"
When they bought these pieces of junk - 2010.
@@sw6188 the main thing that causes us to hate them is the squeaky horn. And they are ugly
@@nathanbedford3666 The horn sounds like a strangled cat. Why couldn't they have just specified some Leslie Super Tyfons like the pairs used on DFT and DX locos?
@@sw6188 even the ef locos and am emus have far better horns
Awesome video!! Can't wait till they are in Palmerston North, any idea on when that would be?
Hope you can get to speak to the guys at KiwiRail and get them to persuade UK rail freight operators to get these beasts! They sound ace! Great Video!
I bet they're glad that they didn't listen to you.
Is the aspect ratio correct? the new loco's look taller than the dx pushing it
I wonder why they didn't build these with 16V240 engines? It may be a very old design, but they have been modernised with the help of Caterpillar.
+douro20 Power to weight ratio is a lot better with the MTU 4000 series over the 645 series. The 240 series has made a comeback by Cat/EMD as the 1010 T4 series
fantastic video mate,
but poor form locos. burried neck deep in traction motor issues, electrical faults and computer failures. the only thing that works properly is the engine, which wasn't built by dalian. kinda reminds me of the Australian XA class locomotive, withdrawn in a few years
so does that mean there is two versions of the dl class old oz gp38s and nz new chn dl classes im confused
30 years is supposed to be the "projected service life" of a locomotive, at least back in the X and XA class' day. The engine that powered them was originally meant to power a submarine, and when it failed at that, they put it into a locomotive. Westrail's engineers eventually developed their own solutions for their various engine bugs, but you wonder about the axle layout: double bogeys at each end, and four under the engine
Simple: Using steam locomotive rules to design diesels makes sense for the era. Baldwin centipedes, NZR Df class, the X and XA, and early electric locomotives all throughout the world, like the Ce 6/8 Krokodil, Little Joe, Ed class, NYCRR S and P motors and so on
10 years it would seem as theirs of them have been scrapped.
@TrainsNZ The DL's will feature in Volume 65.
can you cold start one of our dls?
iiJustToxic I think all locos a
Can be cold started. But I'm pretty sure the engine control system handles cold starts
What?? The WAGR X and XAs ran for over 32 years. And thier biggest problem was the Crossley HSTVee8 pulse charge 2 stroke engine. So not sure what your talking about?
Not sure what happened with the aspect ratio. Originally 16:9 but somehow downloaded as 4:3. Will need to repost.
@kaizerzydeco The tracks are no longer in use and if they were, the axle load of the locos was too great for the wharf therefore the reason for the multi-wheel transporters that spread the weight more evenly.
Does anyone have the gen on what horsepower they are and any other technical info pls?
Damn Those cabs look tiny!!
Hope they have lots of Chinese Drivers to operate them ;)
Rod
I wont say that they are great looking loco's, but I hope they are reliable and economical. Must be a huge improvment on the 1970's era Diesel loco's in service at the mo.
...and i have to say the horn sounds a little 'Gay'!
Those horns sound like sick cat meowing. Give me a GE / GM set of Leslie Supertyfons any day! Real horns for real locos. As could be expected, these pieces of junk have been anything but reliable and economical. Plagued with a plethora of problems from day one. See Tim Sandhu's comments above, and he didn't mention the asbestos found in every loco - despite the specifications clearly stating there was to be no asbestos used.
You don't want a bar of them, they're falling to pieces.
the train are so cool ！
The engine is German, not surprised.
The entire fleet's wheel bearings are being replaced, under warranty
you get what you pay for !
SShhh no one is ment to know I like diesels
bloody more asbestos thank you china
@PeterCarolM maate there ugly as, plus most of the L class and what not have lasted a heck of a lot longer than these DLs will i can assure you
Nice vid bro - but that's where the compliments stop because the DL Class locos are proving to be nothing other than shameful dog tucker. FAIL! They are no where near in the same class of high class chronic long term performance the DX Class locomotives have proven to be. The DIXIES will never be beaten as this country's greatest ever locomotive in the history of rail transport in NZ as far as this Kiwi is concerned.
Absolutely agree with you. Even the Da locos (some 50+ years old) that have been restored by preservation societies are better than these junkets.
mtu power.
tiny cab windscreens...
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
more scrap
they're already regretting it. serious failures