It's really a shame since the boss is genuinely one of the best in recent memory in terms of mechanics (being able to use the chains to make any unit a fast redeploy is great). But the stat bloat is so ridiculous you don't actually get to experience/experiment with those mechanics, so it just falls flat
@@bionicfactory1yh if his stats were altered and was put in a map with less bs enemies or unique enemies balanced around him it could be so much better
i like the idea of very low enemy density and very high enemy threat in theory since it's somrthing we honestly rarely get in this game but this implementation is 💀
kinda ironic too considering that clip 'cliff' was a pretty fun boss. The ifrit stand wannabe have some really fun mechanics but just destroyed due to the pinch out special: stat bloating.
I really like the T stages. They're not that hard, compared to A-3 or S-3. While A-3 is do-able for a good level team and a good strategy, S-3 is just bullsh*t... I couldn't get S-3, because I don't have Ines and my Suzuran doesn't have S3 to M3 yet... I know there might be a way to clear it without the specific ops or masterys, but my sanitys way to low for that sh*t. I did S-1 and called it a day
@@bionicfactory1 yh it’s suprising he did it even with buffs the upside of this game is the absurd challenges and clears we can do even in higher difficulties
If there's one thing about the boss I'd say he's pretty fun, what's not so fun is the demerit of actually playing the reverse CC mechanic and what's diabolical all of em especially those goddamn Dublinns shieldbuggers are migraines
I LOVE the boss design, but the enemy stat just plain horrible, i would love similar events with entirely new unique enemy and not just a stat mountain
I couldnt make the A level.. even tho i play the game since its out.. so this is a little frustrating, but its good they make harder events for someone like me that has all team maxed out
Finished A-3 with not full meta operators (my acount is 7 months old) i was mostly placing all my operators at the same place to burst ennemies and it worked. I have more difficulties with waves maps though, i don't really have much AoE operators.
the time gate idea actually really neat but the execution are not good, it just horde of enemies you better kill fast instead strategically hold them on until the time run out they could just added a way for us to change the environment with roadblock, pillar from chapter 9 to make a road longer for the enemies and maybe get enemy hit by environmental damage from volcano or originium altar as much as possible. but again, HG took the lazy route. i only able clear as much as S-1, i only played for 10 months and i have been thinking the way i could kill S-3 for a while but it just impossible with my current squad. one more thing i kinda baffled almost no one mentioned about it, the reward for this high of the difficulty the reward are complete ass, they should shower player with good amount of resources but nope. have fun with tiddlywinks amount because you there for "the challenges" when player should have both. others mentioned when i brought this up if they give good amount of resources it'll be bad for new player but honestly new player will never ever gonna catch up with how strict the resources in this game so that ship already sailed long ago they should make more endgame content as permanent and it'll be great for new player to catch the content in future and also gain more resources IS is the only tool for them to catching up with good amount of resources because they are permanent
Yeah the difficulty to reward ratio in this event is completely screwed. Especially with the lack of any ability to slowly build up if you can't beat the S stages.
At least there's still a way to actually kill the boss & elites in this event unlike a certain previous event (Ceobe the MVP). The only reason I wont call this event complete garbage is the fact that I managed to use Ho'olheyak in S-3 and Trauma Intervention is pretty interesting
I feel like the mode is definitely better than SSS when that came out. It definitely is salvageable. Numbers could use tweaking, but you shouldn't be penalized for adding challenges with giving you less rewards. Also seems like on the hardest level, only a few viable strats exists and kind of shoehorns players in beating it a specific way.
Yeah SSS turned me off the mode after the painful launch it had. DOS is definitely salvageable just needs to have the numbers tweaked a lot or have the buffs give proper rewards
its not sucks, it just reverse cc. people are so used with buffing the enemies that they forget you can buff your operator (even though it reducing your score). the boss is actually interesting this time, with some mechanic that you can play around. the only problem is the enemies, they inflated stat of those enemies so much that it's nearly impossible to use stall teams, not denying you can use stall team to pass s3 tho, since tums already proved it's possible . also another problem is fuck them trillby asher man. the wave mode is quite fun, not too long and not too short.
oh god. yeah I assumed after the first two maps, which had slots for 5 waves that T-3-5 would have more waves. but they all had 3 waves, except the last one that was only 1 wave. why did they give them slots for more waves and never go above 3 waves? oh yeah thats a problem, I have a 'baby' account I started in august, and I cleared S1, which gets me to level 52 which is most of the rewards. that D32 steel i was missing is now acquired. missing about 60K LMD and 2 material rewards. less than the 920 in sanity potions they give you for chapter 13 prep. S3 I can beat on my year 1 account using a guide and Mylnar, suzuran, and ceobe. and some meta burst DPS. I still used some buffs. so I'm missing 10K LMD. I could possibly beat S3 without buffs but I won't spend 6 hours working on it for 10K LMD. I gave up on S1 for a while, but after watching Eckogen Hand hold for a couple hours yesterday, I got inspiration and at least beat S1 on my alt. Felt alot better about DoS after clearing S1. with a ....whatever I had team. like if your team is balanced and you don't have skill issue, Stages probably aren't an issue. A-3 DOES force you to tank, which is medics and defenders. Eyjaberry, Ptilopsis and coura were working for me needed to properly funnel the enemies like it was CC with that, but I could manage. Ceobe Dumpsters high defense enemies, yes. i can see this being an issue, but if your team is properly built, it doesn't seem too extreme. saw a bunch of people attack it and mald it, and win it after a couple of hours.
so after beating all of the content the event has to offer I actually think up to the final stage it was fine. yes a3 was in some way a stat check but you could still do some funny BS and clear the stage because it was a relatively interesting stage design. what makes S3 so infuriating is that the mobs just walk in a straight line so it really is just a DPS check. people without specifically suzu I have no idea how they clear with no buffs. the main map would have been fine if you could actually take the buffs without getting punished. like it is just that if you take buffs you get punished I get not wanting you to take too many buffs but like 1 buff and you can't get all the rewards is stupid. end game content is in a weird spot where you have to have stat inflation to make the event hard it doesn't matter how interesting the boss/ mobs are if mlynar just one cycles their ass. for these hard events to be hard you NEED stat inflation. the fact that surtr didn't solve the map is a good thing. up until the S stages I actually had a really good time I personally think that this event does more right than wrong for vet players. yes CC had better design because you got to choose to stat inflate but like if you could buff your ops up without the game telling you congrats on choosing easy mode do you need a pacifier to go with your baby mode? it would have been a really good event best endgame since CC. I actually want to see DOS 2 with slight changes and it would be good.
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It's really a shame since the boss is genuinely one of the best in recent memory in terms of mechanics (being able to use the chains to make any unit a fast redeploy is great). But the stat bloat is so ridiculous you don't actually get to experience/experiment with those mechanics, so it just falls flat
The boss design goes crazy. But my mans stats are insane
@@bionicfactory1yh if his stats were altered and was put in a map with less bs enemies or unique enemies balanced around him it could be so much better
My question is tho, how would they prevent us from just buff army obliterating the boss if the other enemies aren't also menaces?
i like the idea of very low enemy density and very high enemy threat in theory since it's somrthing we honestly rarely get in this game but this implementation is 💀
They doing too much
kinda ironic too considering that clip 'cliff' was a pretty fun boss. The ifrit stand wannabe have some really fun mechanics but just destroyed due to the pinch out special: stat bloating.
Ifrits stand is great shame that they bloated the stats to hell and back
I really like the T stages. They're not that hard, compared to A-3 or S-3.
While A-3 is do-able for a good level team and a good strategy, S-3 is just bullsh*t...
I couldn't get S-3, because I don't have Ines and my Suzuran doesn't have S3 to M3 yet...
I know there might be a way to clear it without the specific ops or masterys, but my sanitys way to low for that sh*t.
I did S-1 and called it a day
Yeah they should try and do something with the T stages again
Honestly some ppl have done some interesting clears for S3 example turns defenders only
Tums going crazy with the defender knights clear
@@bionicfactory1 yh it’s suprising he did it even with buffs the upside of this game is the absurd challenges and clears we can do even in higher difficulties
If there's one thing about the boss I'd say he's pretty fun, what's not so fun is the demerit of actually playing the reverse CC mechanic and what's diabolical all of em especially those goddamn Dublinns shieldbuggers are migraines
I LOVE the boss design, but the enemy stat just plain horrible, i would love similar events with entirely new unique enemy and not just a stat mountain
It's just gonna return to CC I fear
I couldnt make the A level.. even tho i play the game since its out.. so this is a little frustrating, but its good they make harder events for someone like me that has all team maxed out
Finished A-3 with not full meta operators (my acount is 7 months old) i was mostly placing all my operators at the same place to burst ennemies and it worked.
I have more difficulties with waves maps though, i don't really have much AoE operators.
the time gate idea actually really neat but the execution are not good, it just horde of enemies you better kill fast instead strategically hold them on until the time run out
they could just added a way for us to change the environment with roadblock, pillar from chapter 9 to make a road longer for the enemies and maybe get enemy hit by environmental damage from volcano or originium altar as much as possible.
but again, HG took the lazy route.
i only able clear as much as S-1, i only played for 10 months and i have been thinking the way i could kill S-3 for a while but it just impossible with my current squad.
one more thing i kinda baffled almost no one mentioned about it, the reward
for this high of the difficulty the reward are complete ass, they should shower player with good amount of resources but nope. have fun with tiddlywinks amount because you there for "the challenges" when player should have both.
others mentioned when i brought this up if they give good amount of resources it'll be bad for new player but honestly new player will never ever gonna catch up with how strict the resources in this game so that ship already sailed long ago
they should make more endgame content as permanent and it'll be great for new player to catch the content in future and also gain more resources
IS is the only tool for them to catching up with good amount of resources because they are permanent
Yeah the difficulty to reward ratio in this event is completely screwed. Especially with the lack of any ability to slowly build up if you can't beat the S stages.
At least there's still a way to actually kill the boss & elites in this event unlike a certain previous event (Ceobe the MVP). The only reason I wont call this event complete garbage is the fact that I managed to use Ho'olheyak in S-3 and Trauma Intervention is pretty interesting
Ho'ol sweep
Trauma intervention do be carrying this event for me
thankfully you dont have to clear the S stage to get the medals or the mats that mattered
One of the few saving graces
I feel like the mode is definitely better than SSS when that came out. It definitely is salvageable. Numbers could use tweaking, but you shouldn't be penalized for adding challenges with giving you less rewards.
Also seems like on the hardest level, only a few viable strats exists and kind of shoehorns players in beating it a specific way.
Yeah SSS turned me off the mode after the painful launch it had. DOS is definitely salvageable just needs to have the numbers tweaked a lot or have the buffs give proper rewards
its not sucks, it just reverse cc. people are so used with buffing the enemies that they forget you can buff your operator (even though it reducing your score). the boss is actually interesting this time, with some mechanic that you can play around. the only problem is the enemies, they inflated stat of those enemies so much that it's nearly impossible to use stall teams, not denying you can use stall team to pass s3 tho, since tums already proved it's possible . also another problem is fuck them trillby asher man. the wave mode is quite fun, not too long and not too short.
oh god. yeah I assumed after the first two maps, which had slots for 5 waves that T-3-5 would have more waves.
but they all had 3 waves, except the last one that was only 1 wave.
why did they give them slots for more waves and never go above 3 waves?
oh yeah thats a problem, I have a 'baby' account I started in august, and I cleared S1, which gets me to level 52 which is most of the rewards. that D32 steel i was missing is now acquired. missing about 60K LMD and 2 material rewards. less than the 920 in sanity potions they give you for chapter 13 prep.
S3 I can beat on my year 1 account using a guide and Mylnar, suzuran, and ceobe. and some meta burst DPS. I still used some buffs. so I'm missing 10K LMD.
I could possibly beat S3 without buffs but I won't spend 6 hours working on it for 10K LMD.
I gave up on S1 for a while, but after watching Eckogen Hand hold for a couple hours yesterday, I got inspiration and at least beat S1 on my alt.
Felt alot better about DoS after clearing S1. with a ....whatever I had team. like if your team is balanced and you don't have skill issue, Stages probably aren't an issue.
A-3 DOES force you to tank, which is medics and defenders. Eyjaberry, Ptilopsis and coura were working for me needed to properly funnel the enemies like it was CC with that, but I could manage. Ceobe Dumpsters high defense enemies, yes. i can see this being an issue, but if your team is properly built, it doesn't seem too extreme.
saw a bunch of people attack it and mald it, and win it after a couple of hours.
No, thank you for being a great arknights creator.
so after beating all of the content the event has to offer I actually think up to the final stage it was fine. yes a3 was in some way a stat check but you could still do some funny BS and clear the stage because it was a relatively interesting stage design. what makes S3 so infuriating is that the mobs just walk in a straight line so it really is just a DPS check. people without specifically suzu I have no idea how they clear with no buffs. the main map would have been fine if you could actually take the buffs without getting punished. like it is just that if you take buffs you get punished I get not wanting you to take too many buffs but like 1 buff and you can't get all the rewards is stupid. end game content is in a weird spot where you have to have stat inflation to make the event hard it doesn't matter how interesting the boss/ mobs are if mlynar just one cycles their ass. for these hard events to be hard you NEED stat inflation. the fact that surtr didn't solve the map is a good thing. up until the S stages I actually had a really good time I personally think that this event does more right than wrong for vet players. yes CC had better design because you got to choose to stat inflate but like if you could buff your ops up without the game telling you congrats on choosing easy mode do you need a pacifier to go with your baby mode? it would have been a really good event best endgame since CC. I actually want to see DOS 2 with slight changes and it would be good.
I couldn't agree anymore. This event was actual hell. I'm stalled on B-1. There could've been some things that could've been done better.
Ceobe can do damage but she doesn't really kill anything
C and D were pathetically easy