@@Kobraman35 It's mostly because the Moon Cell can only produce simulations of Servants, not summon them from the Throne of Heroes like a normal Holy Grail War. Even if Gilgamesh is OP bullshit, if all of his stats are degraded to E's and D's, he won't be able to use many of his treasures and will be rather weak on top of that. So it makes sense to me.
If Gilgamesh was able to fully utilize his Noble Phantasm from the start the game would turn into more of a comedy and seeing how long the enemies could keep Gilgamesh amused before he figured out an appropriate way to end them. PS. I feel like the moment Lancer started talking about squealing Gilgamesh would have replied, "If this small red lizard doesn't cease its noise then I will be forced to turn it into one of those lizard dishes I've heard about."
@@mitchellbaran7917 Actually no (atleas until she became a berserker later), Elizabeth in GO is the elizabeth AFTER the events of CCC, because she found redentiom in being an idol thanks to Nero and hakuno (that why she called nero rival in American order)
@@blackfangex6813 Huh. Last I knew, the whole stint as a Berserker played a role in it as well - at least in the GO's case, since it's implied the Servants there (or some of them at least) have the memories of multiple incarnations.
@@mitchellbaran7917 she indeed has mad enchanment but is later in the Story (when she change her class to beserker)but this is Elizabeth true Self before being an idol. and in Grand order all servant who have apper in other projects Knows about the others as well. For Example Nero(4*) call tamamo Love Rival because she knows both are in love with the same person(hakuno), also i don't remember where but tamamo Master Zone GO MC because she remembers hakuno, nero (4*) as well , subconsciously remember hakuno and elizabeth.... her Cloth in stage 3 is a referance to the hakunos (thats the hint that she comes after the events of CCC)
@@blackfangex6813 her hat that has pig and squirrel figure right? Because I some how I remember that she called female hakuno as squirrel and male hakuno as pig
This stark difference in character for Liz from F/GO is jarring. Still, the master-servant pairing is something I'm almost as bewildered about as in how I hadn't imagined something of the sort before? Surprisingly a good pairing between the two, mercy.
@@soralight_x Definitely not in direct combat. Otherwise she could possibly win with her dragon abilities and Noble Phantasm. Though she has the minority chances of winning considering that Cu is not only a superior spearman but also an expert monster hunter with a lethal one hit kill Noble Phantasm.
@@soralight_x Well Saber survived only because she had high ranked Instinct in tandem with high ranked Luck going for her, and even then she was dealt a powerful blow which took weeks to heal. Cu just got unfortunate running into her of all people and many other Servants don't have means to survive it like Saber.
FreeLancer V It didn't work on Archer either. Against Hassan he didn't had the chance to use it, as for Kojirou he was too afraid to even fight him.. Yup he was definitely afraid of Kojirou
People are surprised at this Elizabeth but because I rolled both Liz and Carmilla in fate go I know exactly what's going on. The thing is that Carmilla just gives up on her personality while Liz reverts back to being a good idol. I find that pretty weird but I guess I'll find the answer watching this.
I think the cutting out of movement/fights is a little too sudden. It really breaks the flow of the video and adds momentary confusion. I think cutting out the standard enemy fights is a good idea but as things are, it might be *too* disorienting when large chunks of the dungeon are skipped entirely. Just my opinion, of course.
What do you think a good solution would be? I'm having a problem with thinking of a better solution of cutting out the tedium vs. having the video flow nicer.
@@ZVNYT dunno if you solved this problem already as I'm bingewatching this for the first time, but maybe cutting fights and speeding up the video could do the trick? I mean, something like: Enter Sakura Labyrinth ---> sped up video of Hakuno travelling through the dungeon ---> Enemy Encounter, cutting the fight and starting from the enemy was met before
I would have thought challenging would have been nice, but if Gils at half his strength and getting one shotted like that, yup, running is good. Thank you for posting both possibilities XD
can't wait to see official translations cuz im loving all of these characters even more , now that my jp has improved over the years watching anime lol went from 20-30% to 80% now
I'm surprised how Gilgamesh is just willing to lend Hakuno his entire power and forgive her attitude towards him He says he's dull yet he could literally just restore his own powers by drinking some Juice Tokiomi must be really pissed off Also I can't believe you can actually have bad ends with Gilgamesh I died on that last part with Liz being a really weak servant
Gilgamesh route, but I will be recording the CCC/True route scenes. I have a few volunteers who have offered to provide a translation for them. I don't want to say it's 100% happening until I have the translations on my screen, though.
Hmm, maybe they should develope a remake of ccc with a full servant roster, Assassin class, I would definitely think Camilla would suit the role because Elizabeth, berserker maybe Vlad because of Liz, Lancer Maybe Enkidu, Rider maybe Ozy would do, Not sure if there should a Ruler though
It's a little hard to show that, to be honest. I suppose I could list it in the comments. For example, in this video, the only parts that I skip are the first battle, just before Gilgamesh laments his degredation, and the trek to the door immediately after that scene.
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Lmao. Somehow Liz kicking Gilgamesh's butt feels wrong
FGO has taught me that Lancers have an advantage over Archers.
Sertan Durukan he slept in the farside , for what, like 2000years? As ive read somewhere , no wonder he's out of shape lol
Very
LordSparda 09 yeah but even so, it took shirou 12 asspuls to kill Goldy and lancer kills her like it's something you just simply do.
@@Kobraman35 It's mostly because the Moon Cell can only produce simulations of Servants, not summon them from the Throne of Heroes like a normal Holy Grail War. Even if Gilgamesh is OP bullshit, if all of his stats are degraded to E's and D's, he won't be able to use many of his treasures and will be rather weak on top of that. So it makes sense to me.
Gil getting one-shotted by Lizzy is a very perplexing feeling for me. Mostly just kind of funny though
He takes her down eventually
...You know... Now that we know Rin is the closest mortal to Ishtar, Gilgamesh's dislike of her in this scene makes a lot more sense.
If Gilgamesh was able to fully utilize his Noble Phantasm from the start the game would turn into more of a comedy and seeing how long the enemies could keep Gilgamesh amused before he figured out an appropriate way to end them.
PS. I feel like the moment Lancer started talking about squealing Gilgamesh would have replied, "If this small red lizard doesn't cease its noise then I will be forced to turn it into one of those lizard dishes I've heard about."
I knew Liz was different in CCC compared to FGO but damn. They're like completely different characters! Character development for the win...?
I think the Liz in this game has a Mad Enchantment placed on her that altered her personality a fair bit.
@@mitchellbaran7917 Actually no (atleas until she became a berserker later), Elizabeth in GO is the elizabeth AFTER the events of CCC, because she found redentiom in being an idol thanks to Nero and hakuno (that why she called nero rival in American order)
@@blackfangex6813 Huh. Last I knew, the whole stint as a Berserker played a role in it as well - at least in the GO's case, since it's implied the Servants there (or some of them at least) have the memories of multiple incarnations.
@@mitchellbaran7917 she indeed has mad enchanment but is later in the Story (when she change her class to beserker)but this is Elizabeth true Self before being an idol.
and in Grand order all servant who have apper in other projects Knows about the others as well. For Example Nero(4*) call tamamo Love Rival because she knows both are in love with the same person(hakuno), also i don't remember where but tamamo Master Zone GO MC because she remembers hakuno, nero (4*) as well , subconsciously remember hakuno and elizabeth.... her Cloth in stage 3 is a referance to the hakunos (thats the hint that she comes after the events of CCC)
@@blackfangex6813 her hat that has pig and squirrel figure right? Because I some how I remember that she called female hakuno as squirrel and male hakuno as pig
This stark difference in character for Liz from F/GO is jarring. Still, the master-servant pairing is something I'm almost as bewildered about as in how I hadn't imagined something of the sort before?
Surprisingly a good pairing between the two, mercy.
This is how I felt when I watched the original Dragon Ball and saw Piccolo before his character development.
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They are holding hands 😔❤
Do (Not) Bully the Doragon Loli
So she can have her way & do what she pleases to Innocents just like that? That's Not Right.
Liz deserves to be bullied
you were expecting Gil but it was me Dark Eliza
Is Elizabeth stronger than Cu?
@@soralight_x Definitely not in direct combat. Otherwise she could possibly win with her dragon abilities and Noble Phantasm. Though she has the minority chances of winning considering that Cu is not only a superior spearman but also an expert monster hunter with a lethal one hit kill Noble Phantasm.
FreeLancer V I know about Cu’s NP but up to date he hasn’t been able to one-shot or even kill anyone with it as far as I know
@@soralight_x Well Saber survived only because she had high ranked Instinct in tandem with high ranked Luck going for her, and even then she was dealt a powerful blow which took weeks to heal. Cu just got unfortunate running into her of all people and many other Servants don't have means to survive it like Saber.
FreeLancer V It didn't work on Archer either. Against Hassan he didn't had the chance to use it, as for Kojirou he was too afraid to even fight him.. Yup he was definitely afraid of Kojirou
People are surprised at this Elizabeth but because I rolled both Liz and Carmilla in fate go I know exactly what's going on. The thing is that Carmilla just gives up on her personality while Liz reverts back to being a good idol. I find that pretty weird but I guess I'll find the answer watching this.
I wish they made a subbed version for PS4 cause this looks really fun. But at least you subbed it which is cool
for once, class advantage is real
I think the cutting out of movement/fights is a little too sudden. It really breaks the flow of the video and adds momentary confusion. I think cutting out the standard enemy fights is a good idea but as things are, it might be *too* disorienting when large chunks of the dungeon are skipped entirely. Just my opinion, of course.
What do you think a good solution would be? I'm having a problem with thinking of a better solution of cutting out the tedium vs. having the video flow nicer.
@@ZVNYT dunno if you solved this problem already as I'm bingewatching this for the first time, but maybe cutting fights and speeding up the video could do the trick?
I mean, something like: Enter Sakura Labyrinth ---> sped up video of Hakuno travelling through the dungeon ---> Enemy Encounter, cutting the fight and starting from the enemy was met before
Howdy, Sparen!
Ok... Rin And Liz are strangely good as duo.... in a creepy way. And I live both Rin and Liz... but I'm scared anyway XD
I would have thought challenging would have been nice, but if Gils at half his strength and getting one shotted like that, yup, running is good.
Thank you for posting both possibilities XD
can't wait to see official translations cuz im loving all of these characters even more , now that my jp has improved over the years watching anime lol went from 20-30% to 80% now
I'm surprised how Gilgamesh is just willing to lend Hakuno his entire power and forgive her attitude towards him
He says he's dull yet he could literally just restore his own powers by drinking some Juice
Tokiomi must be really pissed off
Also I can't believe you can actually have bad ends with Gilgamesh I died on that last part with Liz being a really weak servant
Eli you are being a bad girl and Hakunon's Therapy is going to put some manner into you would you like it or not
Question, what route is this translation going for? The True Route against Kiara? Gilgamesh route?
Gilgamesh route, but I will be recording the CCC/True route scenes. I have a few volunteers who have offered to provide a translation for them. I don't want to say it's 100% happening until I have the translations on my screen, though.
Hmm, maybe they should develope a remake of ccc with a full servant roster, Assassin class, I would definitely think Camilla would suit the role because Elizabeth, berserker maybe Vlad because of Liz, Lancer Maybe Enkidu, Rider maybe Ozy would do, Not sure if there should a Ruler though
Ruler was supposed to be BB but she glitched and became Moon Cancer
That Wish about the Remake is coming True
Yes I would love to see Ozy in a CCC remake but I doubt it
Gils very loud
Would be nice to know how much time is between the scenes.
It's a little hard to show that, to be honest. I suppose I could list it in the comments. For example, in this video, the only parts that I skip are the first battle, just before Gilgamesh laments his degredation, and the trek to the door immediately after that scene.
Doesn't count!!!!!111