Hitmonchan vs Hitmonlee - Pokemon Yellow - The ULTIMATE Competition

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  • @Frogmike86
    @Frogmike86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    "Hitmonchan's PP just isn't up to the task..."
    That about explains this matchup

    • @magusperde365
      @magusperde365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I couldn't even feel him inside

  • @alanhumid5141
    @alanhumid5141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    i know its already been commented, but i appreciate the amount of content lately. its really holding me over until the new season of better call saul lol. keep it wholesome scott

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I've got you ;)

    • @BigTurboTrucker
      @BigTurboTrucker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yo that's shows fire! Season finale is gonna be insane!

    • @Nixoth
      @Nixoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Omg for real this mans been busy. I hope hes keeping his girlfriend happy lol 🤣

    • @wifflebat14
      @wifflebat14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nixoth he is if she's a fan of pokemon races!

    • @nautgamingnautgaming9949
      @nautgamingnautgaming9949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScottsThoughtsPokemon hypothesis hitmonlee wins by a ton actually
      Unless Agatha Lance are that massive of a brick wall
      Hitmonchan moveset is worse than hitmonlee n I'm concerned about hitmonchan losing the speed battle with more pokemon like say gengar or final rivals alakazam or ninetales
      It will also one shot alot less than hitmonlee

  • @Alienldr
    @Alienldr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    To clarify on Counter: Yes, he said if you were hit by a water move, it would just miss. It did that every generation afterwards, and that's why they made "Mirror Coat" to cover the special moves. But to clarify for those who thought this, it would also miss if Ground, Flying, Rock, Bug, and Poison moves were used too. So a better example could have been used, but now hopefully people see how limited Counter really is on Gen 1

    • @jordanthejq12
      @jordanthejq12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And yet even this limited iteration of Counter sees legit use in competitive play (shout-out to Counter Chansey). It turns out that, especially in a game with such limited movepools, being able to clap the most common attacking type in the game (including Tauros and Snorlax, two of RBY OU's "Big Four') is a pretty useful trait.

    • @bitterzombie
      @bitterzombie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Fun fact, in RBY when the opponent hits themselves in confusion, it counts as a normal-type damage dealing attack. So counter, which always goes second, will follow it up by inflicting double that damage on the foe, sorta like the move Assurance that came about later. Its still quite limited as a combo, only Gengar and Magmar can learn confuse ray and counter, and only lickitung can learn supersonic & counter. But it was still quite a surprise when I discovered it on my "passive attacks only" playthrough. And it made gengar pretty viable in that context, as confusion damage was the only solid way to hit poison/grass types, and counter was the only damaging move I could use other than bide. It was still hit or miss, but really made confusion into a more potent status affliction for that run.

    • @Alienldr
      @Alienldr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jordanthejq12 Agreed. Counter is limited, but when all physical types have limited moves (fighting only had a few. rock had rock throw and rock slide only. Bug was leech life, twineedle and pinmissle. Flying was peck, drill peck, and sky attack. Ground was dig and earthquake)... normal was the one with all the physical moves anyway. Unfortunately in competitive, Earthquake is everywhere. If Counter could deal with that one move, then most people wouldn't care about the limited usage.

    • @InsanityForce
      @InsanityForce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The weirdest use I know is Counter on Gengar. It lets you counter Explosion if you just lost another pokemon to it and the oponnent switchs out instead of using a move...
      It's mentioned on Gengar's page on Smogon.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alienldr Actually, it would only apply fully until Gen 3.

  • @ryanlane680
    @ryanlane680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    I used to always look forward to sundays with Scott but I’m just as happy for random days with Scott I’ll never complain

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Going to be releasing on Friday's from now on! (Just one a week from here)

    • @ryanlane680
      @ryanlane680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ScottsThoughtsPokemon hell yeah man I appreciate the work you put in, just don’t burn yourself out you’ve been killin it, also as a fellow musician I’d slap some bass for ya anytime

  • @Alienldr
    @Alienldr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Poor Scott. Brock is just too rock hard, intimidating him and giving him PP problems. It's ok. It happens to a lot of us

    • @brianwisecarver4880
      @brianwisecarver4880 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had to unlike this so it stays at 69 likes

  • @anlev11
    @anlev11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    01:40:00 To be honest, i think that using the average between real and game time doesn't make much sense.
    The purpose of GT is to evaluate how the pokemon would perform in ideal conditions, where the player makes no mistakes and have good RNG, and RT evaluates how the pokemon would perform in a speedrun, considering the consistency of each fight. Those are different things with different meanings, it makes no sense to use their average as a metric.
    Also, the RT itself is like a combination between GT and n⁰ of resets, there is no need to mix them.

  • @TheUltraSinx
    @TheUltraSinx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Loved how you listened to feedback and got the gym transitions quieter! You're the best!

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Always listening. Didn't consider the implications of raising the volume - wanted to create hype, but now I realize how it can be very jarring. There's some content finished already that has the louder transitions but after those videos this will be the standard.

    • @antoniacorrales9148
      @antoniacorrales9148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Idk, I kinda liked the older transition 😅

    • @msdrakegx
      @msdrakegx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@antoniacorrales9148 same here, was a little disappointed to see them quieter

    • @stephenl2571
      @stephenl2571 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I can’t hear anything

    • @SteorraD
      @SteorraD ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon ,

  • @tobiasboh3370
    @tobiasboh3370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Not sure if I've ever commented this, but I love how detailed your narration is, really making the visuals optional. I love listening to your videos in the evening when I don't want to look at a screen anymore!

    • @JeffDvrx
      @JeffDvrx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I usually just listen to them while walking on the steet going places haha

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hey Tobias, I'm always trying to design the videos so that there is a visual experience and an auditory experience. I want people to be able to choose how they consume the video!

  • @hardhatlunchpal
    @hardhatlunchpal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Another quality video. The amount of time you put into each run is very impressive. You give each Pokemon it's fair shot and that clearly takes a lot of time. Your videos are always some that I'm truly excited to watch. Keep pumping out the bangers!

  • @wifflebat14
    @wifflebat14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    When you were explaining Hitmonchan's moveset, I was just getting more and more depressed. That poor guy doesn't stand a chance 😢

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I know right... its move pool is so depressing... counter's design being the cherry on top

    • @Aliyah_666
      @Aliyah_666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Legitimately hitmonchan isn't any good until the gen 3 even then it isn't good. Not until the physical special split.

    • @Hyperencrpted12345
      @Hyperencrpted12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When I first tried hitmonchan, I used to think the punch moves were physical. Imagine my surprise when they were useless.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At best it stands in the Smogon lower tiers with good coverage moves and has a strange niche as a reverse sweeper who uses Reversal, Endure, and a Salac berry to sweep.

    • @HighPriestFuneral
      @HighPriestFuneral 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Hyperencrpted12345 I am surprised that GameFreak didn't give Hitmonchan an ability to turn all moves it can learn into Physical moves instead of Special moves, that would have made his elemental punches a tad bit more useful a generation before the Physical/Special split.

  • @zerraticz
    @zerraticz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Hello Scott and Denis!
    Holy moly! Another one already? How did we get so lucky! I'll check it out after the gym!

  • @buddyfree1321
    @buddyfree1321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Would be interesting to see this in a gen with the physical/special split. Hitmonchan really improved with that.

    • @ericwolf9664
      @ericwolf9664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And Hitmonlee getting actually good attacking moves to use vs ghost and flying

    • @jordanthejq12
      @jordanthejq12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even FRLG would be interesting. Both Hitmons get Revenge as a starting move, which patches up Chan's lack of STAB and then, thanks to Comet Punch hitting Bugs neutrally, gives it a small edge.

  • @mmmapplesauce1673
    @mmmapplesauce1673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “Hmm yes today i will have the worst defenses known to man” -Hitmonlee

  • @ajax1241
    @ajax1241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ngl, I was fully expecting this to be an April Fool's upload. Glad to see it's actually an iconic race. Keep up the great work but don't forget to take breaks every now and then.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The most iconic race! (taking a week long break at the end of April! Content will continue even while I rest though)

  • @twilightjoltik3151
    @twilightjoltik3151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wanted to thank you for narrating these videos so thoroughly, I’m listening to this with the worst headache of my life and can’t look at anything bright for too long but thanks to your descriptions I can still follow along perfectly.

  • @KingTKalimari
    @KingTKalimari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a teacher I never get to watch these live, glad we had a half day today so I could catch this haha

  • @KayLoo202
    @KayLoo202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the live reaction audio clips are so adorable, love it!!
    Ah, Hitmonchan, a Pokemon that would only become useful in later Gens. Imagine having pathetic special but all your cool moves are...... dependent on your special. *shocked Pikachu face*

  • @ryanproulx7641
    @ryanproulx7641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To respond to your initial question of seeing the initial run first: Yes, definitely enjoy seeing your journey progress linearly. Also allows all to kind of go through the same thought processes with you, trying to come up with better strategies right along with you.
    Thanks again for all your videos, they're awesome! 😊

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the thoughts Ryan! I appreciate this kind of feedback!

  • @D-U-K
    @D-U-K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 video's in 1 week?!
    You are spoiling us man!
    Appreciate all the content! 💙

  • @c.m.9369
    @c.m.9369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Before watching the video:
    My bet is on Hitmonlee. Faster and higher attack. The only advantage Hitmonchan has are the elemental punches for coverage... which frankly, with a special stat of 35 is just going to be mostly useless (in Gen4, Hitmonchan actually might have the better cards because there the coverage would be insanely helpful, but not as long as it comes from his weaker special side). I can imagine that using Ice Punch against Lance might be useful? Maybe. But that's just one fight. Both of them will mainly fight with physical attacks, and there Hitmonlee simply has the better cards. Better stats and better moves. Maybe the fact that Hitmonchan has the better defense will help him to survive a couple of more hits than Hitmonlee, but frankly I doubt that this will make the difference. Especially since Hitmonlee will be able to hit first a lot more often than Hitmonchan.
    So yeah, Hitmonlee all the way and I'm pretty sure it's going to be fairly consistent.
    After watching the video (obviously spoiler):
    Yeah well... That went as expected X-D

  • @TripleShizzle
    @TripleShizzle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed the super quick fire type overlay at the end, looking forward to it! You're releasing so much content, love it. Always a highlight to see a new video drop 🙂

  • @adairschannel7502
    @adairschannel7502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video was recommended to me and now im gonna binge the whole series, great stuff, very meticulous and detailed.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’ll see how it didn’t start out of meticulous! The content has certainly evolved.

  • @gabr.7878
    @gabr.7878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I'm so hyped for a long Scott's video!

  • @dwellerofgloom8450
    @dwellerofgloom8450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always hype when I see that you've updated a video, I love the scientific-like approach you have. This add to the quality of the content

  • @milkdud8993
    @milkdud8993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And that friends is why we don’t skip leg day! Thanks for another great vs match!

  • @somethingsomethingusername7871
    @somethingsomethingusername7871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a huge fan of you showing us the initial playthrough like you used too. Also, quality content as always and the up in quantity lately is the cherry on top. You're spoiling us!

  • @bobkelley1497
    @bobkelley1497 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that we are getting 4 videos in 4 days, I hope you aren’t drowning yourself in work. I love your videos!

  • @igorivanov2498
    @igorivanov2498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When yellow first came out (my first Pokémon game), I trained boxing, I loved boxing and Hitmonchan and Primape were my favorite Pokémon. I was so excited to get Hitmonchan… needless to say, I felt the pain you’re feeling now back then lol

  • @ericwaino6706
    @ericwaino6706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really fun video!! Thanks, I would love to see a Team Rocket kind of comparison run between Jessie's Arbok and James's weezing.

  • @maol2038
    @maol2038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You should have said Venemoths actual typing today!
    Great vid as always

    • @ThatOneWeirdFlex
      @ThatOneWeirdFlex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why didn't he? Its Bug-Poison

    • @ChrrolloDI
      @ChrrolloDI 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatOneWeirdFlex it's obvious to anyone beyond the age of 5 that it's an inside joke.

  • @MaladroitMola
    @MaladroitMola 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Content much appreciated… I love vicariously through my poketubers and you are stamped as one of them

  • @mitchti14
    @mitchti14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You’re on an absolute tear with the content lately, we love to see it

  • @Gibstack
    @Gibstack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the first video I've seen of yours. I can't tell if there's an intentionality with this coming out on April Fool's, but either way, I love the production of this video and what I assume comes in your other videos. Very well used and well made layout of timer, base stats & current stats, movepool and current moveset, and reset counter. These work really well with the double pokemon setup because it leaves good mental reminders of what's happening between both playthroughs.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The April fools release was intentional. Glad the layout is clear! I’ve put a lot of time and energy into it!

  • @MK-yg2np
    @MK-yg2np 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, nice upload rate these days, we love it Scott!

  • @michaelbricker1129
    @michaelbricker1129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’ve been killing it with content lately! Love the channel

  • @dogedickenson1694
    @dogedickenson1694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow you are being consistent
    But don't burn yourself out tho
    Keep up the great work

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No burn out this time, I've got a plan! (Burnout was in the fall, and it's the reason there were no versus videos from November-> late December). Shawn, my video editor, is a lifesaver for these longer projects!

    • @evawhite1144
      @evawhite1144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Please, take care of yourself, and always put your physical and mental health first. If you ever feel tired, or like you just want to take a break, then do it. Just saying, cause you've been doing so many consecutive runs lately. And that's awesome, we love your content, but don't neglect your health. Ok, this would be all, thanks for the awesome content.

    • @remydirt3158
      @remydirt3158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shout-out to Shawn

  • @willlllllllb
    @willlllllllb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 uploads in 3 days, can't wait to get home and binge watch :D

  • @mattrobertsjr.3279
    @mattrobertsjr.3279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Home from the hospital and this is a great way to relax now that we are home. Keep up the great work!!

  • @reytrevino993
    @reytrevino993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like how you have the current stats and moves of the Pokemon you are using. It's really cool and really sets you apart from other channels.

  • @Artu739
    @Artu739 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These versus videos are everything 😩 please NEVER STOP

  • @mitchelldavidovich4781
    @mitchelldavidovich4781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this format so much. Thank you for the uploads.

  • @charlessegale6493
    @charlessegale6493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh, funny coincidence. I was just watching VanMan's Hitmon runs and now you come in clutch with your Battle of the Hitmons!

  • @kingcygnus
    @kingcygnus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all the content, Scott! And happy to hear you’re taking care of your mental health. Please always prioritize that over all else, the community will understand ❤️

  • @JohnnyQuest1992
    @JohnnyQuest1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve said it before but your content is pure enjoyment. Your dedication to deliver such high quality and thorough videos is unrivaled. You’re a legend dude, keep it going!!

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much Rick! I really appreciate the comment. It gives me motivation!

  • @adamwilliamson3234
    @adamwilliamson3234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unbelievable effort to make this, great vid!

  • @Stroon92
    @Stroon92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The combo that jrose didnt get to. Lets goooooo. Love the videos man. Helps me sleep and theyre the perfect length that i watch them twice.

  • @MichaelSotoCE
    @MichaelSotoCE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When i first stumbled upon your channel i thought "ok so jrose but for Pokemon yellow".
    However your content is SO different and I'm really glad you kept going with your own flavor. Your scientific approach to pokemon is so great and your sense of humor is cute as well. Keep it up man love the content!!

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s taken me awhile to find my own style. The videos are starting to really feel like me now.

    • @MichaelSotoCE
      @MichaelSotoCE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScottsThoughtsPokemonfor sure. After all it takes a man very confident in himself to find a way to mention his girlfriend each and every upload. Not many other TH-camrs can do that.

  • @thelegendawesome1
    @thelegendawesome1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been watching the channel for ages always awesome to see a really cool vs like this

  • @rikaniebangbang
    @rikaniebangbang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for uploading so much while I was isolating. Today I tested negative again but you can keep them coming!

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Rika, I remember you writing a comment on a video about a week ago saying you were isolating. Hope you're feeling a bit better. Glad to hear you got a negative test again!

  • @dannykrise9721
    @dannykrise9721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott you are killing it with the content lately and I love it. Keep up the amazing work.
    Edit: let's go lee!

  • @JimB.Walken
    @JimB.Walken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scotts on fire with the content lately, soooo gud

  • @danieldelawder5896
    @danieldelawder5896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the amount of videos your pushing is insane! hope your doing well and not pushing yourself too hard!

  • @MrIronJustice
    @MrIronJustice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hitmonchad, I love it! Thank you for just getting into the details and fully explaining yourself, I feel like so many other TH-camrs would just gloss over the details and put in lame jokes instead.

  • @LombreFan
    @LombreFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's cool seeing how your channel has progressed over the last year bro keep up the good work!!!

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really has been a big year! Looking forward to all the improvements the next one will bring!

  • @OcelotOmega
    @OcelotOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really been appreciating all the content lately! Been in a bad place for a bit, so it's nice to be able to take my mind of things and just relax for a while listening to your videos.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to hear you've been in a bad place. Glad the videos can help you take your mind off things and relax. Pokemon always did that for me too!

  • @n64_kfp
    @n64_kfp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate the fact you're willing to suffer to provide us some great content. Hitmonchan truly got the shaft in the early gens, but I'm looking forward to seeing how it would fare with physical elemental punches. Also, just one point - I noticed the Gym 6 split for Hitmonlee came up before your first attempts against Blaine.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair, I love playing Pokémon yellow! It is mostly not suffering. Only the first playthrough with Hitmonchan was bad. After that it’s fun trying to make it perform as well as possible and constantly beat my own results!

    • @n64_kfp
      @n64_kfp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScottsThoughtsPokemon any chance you might consider Let's Go for a rematch between these two, or were you thinking of giving them a rest until you naturally reach Gen 4+?

  • @sammyog6274
    @sammyog6274 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Scott for making such entertaining content. These challenges are some of the best.

  • @ZeeGee88
    @ZeeGee88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, Scott! I'm going to be that guy and throw another challenge idea out: Hitmonchan vs. Hitmonlee vs. Hitmontop in Pokemon Crystal!

  • @iantaakalla8180
    @iantaakalla8180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you do this again, do this in Platinum simply because Hitmonchan can use its coverage to better effect there onwards.

  • @Crunchy_Troll
    @Crunchy_Troll 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Scott for being one of my favorite newer content creators

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank for taking the time to say that! +1 motivation for me

  • @Elitekross
    @Elitekross 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jus found your channel and i think this is a very fresh take on classic pokemon challenges i really appreciate it

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like the versus videos! They’re really fun to make.

  • @shadowtitanx3962
    @shadowtitanx3962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Agatha in Yellow is way less painful than her Red and Blue counterpart.
    Red and Blue Agatha has more trolly moves on all of her Ghosts and Night Shade is actually threatening, since it hits everything for set damage, even the Normals.
    In Yellow, yeah she still has her Confusion tactics, but her 1st Gengar does not have the Dream Eater combo or Night Shade. In fact, all of her Ghosts don't have Night Shade. Sure, they have Lick with 30% Para Chance, but they aren't nearly as threatening as Night Shade spam.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, Yellow Agatha is easier, but nearly every other trainer is harder in Yellow. For these two: Lance and the Champion specifically. The fixed movesets really did a lot to improve those trainers. Lance would just spam agility in RB because of the good AI paired with his garbage movesets.

  • @TheGamingCamel22
    @TheGamingCamel22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly amazing that Hitmonchan moved from bad to chad! I know Hitmonlee was much better of course, but shaving off almost one hour after you optimized its run is amazing and your strategies were great! And I also wanted to say that I've finally watched every single video you have and now I'm all caught up! It was amazing journey watching your channel and content grow, and you do really read all the comments! Keep it up man!

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you’ve caught up! I wish I could make these faster for you, but for now, just one new video every week.

    • @TheGamingCamel22
      @TheGamingCamel22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScottsThoughtsPokemon It was fun to binge all of your content for sure, and don't pressure yourself, once a week is great!

  • @j5cragg642
    @j5cragg642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just imagine my joy when my train got delayed and I open youtube to this. Not all heroes wear capes Scott

  • @OneMoreDesu
    @OneMoreDesu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know YTbers like to pretend they don't compete for an audience, but I'm so glad to have found you. Jrose started to feel cringe.

  • @sirjoeexotic3545
    @sirjoeexotic3545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, you are the best!! The amount of videos you keep putting out is astounding. These videos take a long time. You are such an underrated tuber, especially for the Pokémon content space. Please keep going as much as possible, but don’t burn yourself out. I see a lot of tubers burning themselves out on this content, but you have such a positive outlook that I don’t see that happening to you.

  • @kevpinto7096
    @kevpinto7096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back to back pokemon videos!!!!! Love your videos Scott

  • @dragonnight22
    @dragonnight22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the hitmon vs for crystal just feels like it will be more painful than this

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We will find out!

    • @dragonnight22
      @dragonnight22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ScottsThoughtsPokemon the question is do you start with the hitmons or with tyrouge then evolve

  • @WeAreTheInsurgents
    @WeAreTheInsurgents 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With every video I see of Gen I Pokemon, it becomes more and more apparent that Game Freak were absolutely useless at giving Pokemon decent move pools in the beginning. I think they focused solely on trying to be thematic and it just so happened that all of Hitmonlee's kick moves had no choice but to be fighting type. Elemental punches made sense for Hitmonchan but then you think about it for 2 seconds longer and realise that it's an awful idea when types alone dictated which damage stat they're based off.
    Great video btw! Been binging your channel for the last week and while there are a million other Poketubers out there, the way you approach these videos are different with how you break down the numbers with the time, resets, movesets and stats shown on screen at all times. Plus, you have a comforting presence about you which makes these chill viewings.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it’s so clear that movesets weren’t about balance and instead about thematic flavour.

  • @zombieking0437
    @zombieking0437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all the new content coming out and just as much on random days as well as the usual release on Sundays. Keep up the good work just don't work too hard and get burnt out again lol.

  • @KishoKitsune
    @KishoKitsune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have started doing my own testing after watching the video and while I am admittedly not as proficient in certain aspects of the game I have seen some interesting results of my testing so far. Namely that the elemental punches are situationally useful and make certain areas faster and more consistent if planned properly.
    One big thing I did different is buying three Calcium instead of the Protein and Carbos that Scott did. I also didn't do Pokemon Tower til after Erika, instead fighting a few extra trainers along the way.
    By doing this Fire Punch was 2-3 shotting the Tangela without setup while still 2 shotting the following Weepinbell and Gloom. In addition this allowed me when I got to Pokemon Tower to 2 shot all the ghosts without Seismic Toss which gave me a bit more flexibility in my moveset. And as Scott found in his subsequent playthroughs Ice Punch is a consistent two hit against Rival Five's Sandslash when even at a higher level Body Slam is not a consistent two shot. It also makes Giovanni's Rhyhorn a one shot which was not shown in the video.
    I am hoping to continue testing and work on improving my ability to do the small things faster to see if I can improve on Scott's final time for Hitmonchan. While I know I won't be able to get it to be as fast as Hitmonlee was I can see it being at least closer in time with what I have been doing.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the idea of using the punches for Pokémon tower! That’s a great idea. Really frees up the moveset so that seismic toss can be used later for Agatha!

  • @pbentle1990
    @pbentle1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad you’re taking care of your health, that’s more important than these videos. I really like these versus videos too, I know they’re a bunch of work, but it’s really interesting to see how certain Pokémon deal with challenges differently

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mental health is key! I want to keep doing this long term after all.

  • @AfterTheFirstNever
    @AfterTheFirstNever 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it Scott! Great insight

  • @henrycalde1991
    @henrycalde1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait the Hitmons cant learn Rock Slide? I always thought they could in gen 1

  • @gambleralex5083
    @gambleralex5083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow 3 videos this week Scott is a legend

  • @Chunkey9
    @Chunkey9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Hitmonlee is the kicking expert, then why can't it learn Trop Kick when it got introduced in gen 7?

  • @verdethestarwarrior1088
    @verdethestarwarrior1088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “These Pokémon are part of Bruno’s team. He’s the strongest Elite Four member by far, and the Hitmons are the reason for that.”
    I can’t believe you said that with a straight face

  • @Flatthew3333
    @Flatthew3333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your videos. They are also an amazing help when it comes to decompressing from a hard day of work. I look forward to all of your videos so much that you're actually the only one I have set to get notifications for each video. Thanks for the time and work you put into these for us.

    • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
      @ScottsThoughtsPokemon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome. Thanks for the comment Matt! Glad I can help you decompress after a hard day at work.

  • @LordOfLiches
    @LordOfLiches 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Scott! Been enjoying the videos as always. I’m glad to see you go back to the longer approach. I also love seeing your adjustments and progression across a few playthroughs. Can’t wait to watch what’s next but also hope you make time to take some breaks and don’t burn yourself out!

  • @kangaskdan
    @kangaskdan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel personally attacked by the quarter of a century comment.
    Great video as always man!

  • @bobkelley1497
    @bobkelley1497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was thinking of some video ideas, probably what you’ve thought of already. Doing split evolution pairs in gen 2 like Politoad vs Poliwrath, Slowbro vs Slowking(even though the differences in them are the Defense and Sp Def stats), obviously the 3 hitmons, Vileplume vs Bellossom, and the Umbreon vs Espeon or even all 5 which would be insane but interesting to see who would beat Crystal better.

  • @dipeshpatel4391
    @dipeshpatel4391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think about how you could of just used strength on the dragonite, then hyper beam, so you dont need to wait to recharge or allow a hyper potion. You never prime the enemy Pokémon for a KO like this, I think this would speed up some of your runs and add more consistency to your strategy.

  • @trombaritone86
    @trombaritone86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the video. Like everyone else, I'd be curious to see how the results change after the physical/special split.

  • @jordanmeadows4115
    @jordanmeadows4115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Laughed out loud in public when I heard you refer to it as “Hitmonchad” so funny!

  • @shimauta1941
    @shimauta1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm impressed with how much you were able to shave off Hitmonchan's time. Beyond that there weren't really any surprises. In the future I hope you'll run a vs for these two in a generation where they'll both be viable Pokemon.

  • @paulnewton2284
    @paulnewton2284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hitmonlee's Erika split in the first playthrough was 28:05. At that same time, Hitmonchan was on Route 3.
    Good Lord, is this a curb stomp.

  • @misterschifano
    @misterschifano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *soothes my Tangela* "It's okay, I disliked the bad man. Let's go shop for sneakers."

  • @jhonviel7381
    @jhonviel7381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the gamer gods will grace you with blessing beyond your expectations young one.

  • @ThibsyCube
    @ThibsyCube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would always take hitmonchan as a kid in gen 1 and 3 for it’s coverage but got disappointed every single time!
    I knew that hitmonlee would be better but didn’t expect such dominance!
    You’re awesome Scott!

  • @wiseguise5960
    @wiseguise5960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scott putting in the work! Thank you for the amazing videos 👍👍👍

  • @bitmen1296
    @bitmen1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for all the awesome content!

  • @Harkruel
    @Harkruel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Insane dude your pumpin this stuff ouuttt

  • @FailthyCasual
    @FailthyCasual 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ANOTHER ONE?! oh you're spoiling us Scott! But do continue plx

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Gestures to Hitmonchan*
    “This is Wimp Lo. We have purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.”

  • @fizzbrew
    @fizzbrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff. Got to see my favorite pokemons in hitmonlee and koffing with your videos.

  • @giantfish2222
    @giantfish2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up good work man hope channel grows for you

  • @CameronHoug
    @CameronHoug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It makes sense that hitmonlee has such low special in gen 1 since it's before attack and defense were split but that definitely shocked me, cause I'm used to special defense tank hitmonlee in future gens

  • @Tynamite843
    @Tynamite843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You really have been putting out some bad ass content my man! Thank you 🙏🏼😎💯 keep up that good work!

  • @daveelliot7552
    @daveelliot7552 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completely agree with your other fan. It is much more engaging seeing the process of learning the strategies as you progress through the game.
    That’s my biggest criticism with MDBs videos, they just kept getting shorter and shorter. For me it started to become more of a just on 20 minute highlights reel without much explanation. Some were like ‘This gym leader wasn’t hard I just spammed this move for their whole team’ and before you knew it he was at the elite 4 and you realise you hadn’t really seen any growth or learning of strategy.
    I get that he’s got a lot of content that he produces on a weekly basis but but just makes for a still entertaining but quite forgettable video.
    You’ve got the top spot for quality of detail of your runs and dedication to your craft. From your first video to now you’ve come so far and refined so much.

  • @Stevo2557
    @Stevo2557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy smokes. Videos Daily. I love it.