Great ideas, and very important to reference while mixing. I've also used the 'listen' bus (and button) for quickly switching to reference tracks, especially if you have many reference tracks.
... I am recording one mono line..and adding audio filters in the bus channel. Are the filters that I add in the bus line be of the mono or stereo type..thank you
Dom, Great video. I have a comment and question. My comment is a slight caution for users to keep volume matching in mind if you are A-B mastering or A-B-C mastering. A= the final mix that's being processed, B=your unprocessed original final mix, C= your target reference song (completely different commercially released song) that your client likes. A-B'ing your final mix and processed master will help you determine if your mastering process made the song your mastering better or if adjustments need to be made in your process. Is this something you take into consideration in your mastering workflow as well? I suppose we can add a second cue for C. I use AB plugin or Reference or sometimes the iZotope Ozone reference for this. I use my Cue for the "unprocessed" final mix and with gain boost to my target loudness.
Hey Dom, thank you for the great content. I have been struggling with the mixdown function in Cubase. The results sound nothing like the mix in Cubase itself. What am I doing wrong? Could/would you adress this topic? Cheers!
Dom, I noticed all those controllers to the left of your keyboard. Could you please explain what they are and there uses? I really appreciate your videos. You were one of the major people that helped me decide on Cubase 12 pro while it was on sale. Thank you!
Yea but sometimes the cue mix and actual mix play at the same time for a microsecond causing a crazy spike of loudness clipping my output and hurting my ears haha. Also when your dealing with a full session with mastering and full cpu and comparing it to just an audio file switching back and fourth is not seamless. There’s a stutter or skip sometimes. Cubase can’t get it right
You can find out the LUFS/RMS of the reference track through Audio->Statistics. Then you match the mastered track to that by opening the metering tab to the left and adjusting the gain until you reach the same values.
As a loyal Cubase user, I’m afraid there are some third party plugins that do a much better job at this. Won’t name them, but Cubase should consider doing something similar.
hi there ; here I'm facing an issue about midi event . there are multiple parts in a midi track , like verse 1, 2, 3, or more . i bounce them by bounce midi or glue them as a single event . and export to a location , but when i import it again on project, the becomes apart again like unglued or unbouced event as it was before bounce . how can i solve this ? thanks in advance . THIS SUFFURING ME A LOT. IM USING CUBASE 12.
How is using control room better than just putting the reference track on its own channel and soloing it when you want to A/B? If I need some global effects on the output bus that shouldn't be on the reference track I create a new group track just before the output bus where everything except the reference track is routed to and place such effects there.
my 2 cents -- I used this exact method before finding this video, and it works just as well, except it requires a bit more setup and switching between the two is more of a hassle in my opinion. I also like being able to have a dedicated 'switch-to-reference-mix' button. As a side-note, Astral Brain, I dig your music :)
@@BleuNoirProductions Having a dedicated shortcut key for switching sounds great, I just thought the setup of control room sounded a bit tedious, but maybe it's not when you get the hang of it.
@@astral_brain I guess it might be, I have set it up once and have a dedicated audio track in my template where the reference mix goes, ready to go, i barely have to think about it now. :)
I used to have this down. I had to do a reinstall of windows a while back and after reinstalling Cubase 11, I can't get it to work. The reference works but now the stereo out channel has no target and the destinations tab on the right is blank. What did I forget to do? The project mix isn't routed anywhere so there is no sound. When I A/B I get the reference and then silence.
Control room was a game changes when it came out HOWEVER, it's been YEARS and Steinberg is still limiting us to 4 Cue mixes which is not enough when tracking to most basic rhythm section (Drums, Bass, Guitar, Piano, Vocals). Why can't the cue mixes be only limited to the amount of outputs we have? isn't the who idea is to be able to send as many Cue mixes your outputs allow? Steinberg please open the option for more Cue Mixes so we can use the full potential Cubase has!
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just throw in a reference track and mute ot or Solo it in comparison to the track you're working on, or maybe a mixed down version of it
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Going to keep this video handy... to be used as a reference.
I love it! Especially the trick with the shortcut! Thanks a lot
Thanks always for your help with Cubase Dom. I never stop learning even after ten years working with Cubase
This is one of the best features of Cubase. Use it all the time 👍🥳
As always -- brilliant explanation. Thank you.
Amazing shirt Dom!! Your setup is so inspiring!
Thanks for you're step by step walk through. Finally, I understand it and it's working great.
A great update of your other great video which helped me with using control room and AB referencing. Thanks legend!
I THOUGHT I knew a lot about cubase. I always learn more here. I love control room and I can't cubase without it, but I didn't know this trick.
Perfect! Just what I was looking for to be able to compare subtle tweaks in several mixes.
Great stuff! Thank you!
Great video, great explanation! Thank you, Dom!
Great ideas, and very important to reference while mixing. I've also used the 'listen' bus (and button) for quickly switching to reference tracks, especially if you have many reference tracks.
This is a great video. Would never have thought of this. Will be putting this into practice immediately.
Awesome!!!!❤❤
Thank you! 😭🙏🙌❤️❤️
Always interesting Thank you Dom
very nice, thank you
Fantastic explanation! Thanks 🙏🏻👍🏻
... I am recording one mono line..and adding audio filters in the bus channel. Are the filters that I add in the bus line be of the mono or stereo type..thank you
just awesome! thanks man!
Automatic level matching would be really cool here
Very nice of course but if the reference song which is already mastered, I surely need to config something to equalize with my non mastered song...
Great video! What if I want to A/B my mix with a song on Spotify or Apple Music?
Needed this
It's amazing 😃
Dom, Great video. I have a comment and question. My comment is a slight caution for users to keep volume matching in mind if you are A-B mastering or A-B-C mastering. A= the final mix that's being processed, B=your unprocessed original final mix, C= your target reference song (completely different commercially released song) that your client likes. A-B'ing your final mix and processed master will help you determine if your mastering process made the song your mastering better or if adjustments need to be made in your process. Is this something you take into consideration in your mastering workflow as well? I suppose we can add a second cue for C. I use AB plugin or Reference or sometimes the iZotope Ozone reference for this. I use my Cue for the "unprocessed" final mix and with gain boost to my target loudness.
Great! is there a way to A/B reference in real time, a 'summed out' mix returning back in after analogue processing? Cheers
Hey Dom, thank you for the great content. I have been struggling with the mixdown function in Cubase. The results sound nothing like the mix in Cubase itself. What am I doing wrong? Could/would you adress this topic? Cheers!
Dom, I noticed all those controllers to the left of your keyboard. Could you please explain what they are and there uses? I really appreciate your videos. You were one of the major people that helped me decide on Cubase 12 pro while it was on sale. Thank you!
Yea but sometimes the cue mix and actual mix play at the same time for a microsecond causing a crazy spike of loudness clipping my output and hurting my ears haha. Also when your dealing with a full session with mastering and full cpu and comparing it to just an audio file switching back and fourth is not seamless. There’s a stutter or skip sometimes. Cubase can’t get it right
That's cool but is there any way to do a gain match between the two? It would be nice to have one button for gain match on every channel.
You can find out the LUFS/RMS of the reference track through Audio->Statistics. Then you match the mastered track to that by opening the metering tab to the left and adjusting the gain until you reach the same values.
As a loyal Cubase user, I’m afraid there are some third party plugins that do a much better job at this. Won’t name them, but Cubase should consider doing something similar.
hi there ; here I'm facing an issue about midi event . there are multiple parts in a midi track , like verse 1, 2, 3, or more . i bounce them by bounce midi or glue them as a single event . and export to a location , but when i import it again on project, the becomes apart again like unglued or unbouced event as it was before bounce . how can i solve this ? thanks in advance . THIS SUFFURING ME A LOT. IM USING CUBASE 12.
How is using control room better than just putting the reference track on its own channel and soloing it when you want to A/B? If I need some global effects on the output bus that shouldn't be on the reference track I create a new group track just before the output bus where everything except the reference track is routed to and place such effects there.
my 2 cents -- I used this exact method before finding this video, and it works just as well, except it requires a bit more setup and switching between the two is more of a hassle in my opinion. I also like being able to have a dedicated 'switch-to-reference-mix' button. As a side-note, Astral Brain, I dig your music :)
@@BleuNoirProductions Having a dedicated shortcut key for switching sounds great, I just thought the setup of control room sounded a bit tedious, but maybe it's not when you get the hang of it.
@@astral_brain I guess it might be, I have set it up once and have a dedicated audio track in my template where the reference mix goes, ready to go, i barely have to think about it now. :)
Hi Dom. I noticed that you (accidentally?) applied processing on the reference. Shouldn't it be on the lower track?
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Cntrl & solobutton of the ref track does the job…
I used to have this down. I had to do a reinstall of windows a while back and after reinstalling Cubase 11, I can't get it to work. The reference works but now the stereo out channel has no target and the destinations tab on the right is blank. What did I forget to do? The project mix isn't routed anywhere so there is no sound. When I A/B I get the reference and then silence.
Control room was a game changes when it came out HOWEVER, it's been YEARS and Steinberg is still limiting us to 4 Cue mixes which is not enough when tracking to most basic rhythm section (Drums, Bass, Guitar, Piano, Vocals). Why can't the cue mixes be only limited to the amount of outputs we have? isn't the who idea is to be able to send as many Cue mixes your outputs allow? Steinberg please open the option for more Cue Mixes so we can use the full potential Cubase has!
Who'd have thought???!!!
4 cues is not enough for bands please make it 8 or 10 cues
It seems I can't do this with my Solid State Logic 2.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just throw in a reference track and mute ot or Solo it in comparison to the track you're working on, or maybe a mixed down version of it
It doesn't work as nicely as in the movie. After switching, the reference track-C1 is several times louder. The first time it was a shock to the ears.
Too many steps, since it's a hack abusing the Cue send. Should have built-in direct support for A/B comparison, and with multiple references