I reckon a few refs don't like Mikel Arteta because he complained about their obvious mistakes. Instead of accepting they made/make bad decisions that cost us points and quite possibly the PL title last year, they just increase their hidden animosity towards Arteta. The 10 men situations we found ourselves in this year could be that animosity in action.
they was doing this to us all the season starts since we got serious, they just do not do this end of season so noone remembers, most people like a goldfish, its enogh to take some 5-10 points first half of the season by making some 50\50 go not our way, weird reds (remember 2 previous season swe had this too)
Liverpool fan here, yep clear as day. Arteta lashed out once and then the “mistakes” start happening more and more. These refs at the very least have vendetta’s and changed the results of TITLES.
Yep agree, I said this also. Bunch of corrupt pricks The reason he spoke out against the Refs in the first place is there was so many terrible decisions going against us and what, now they punish him for speaking up. PGMOL are operating like some Mafia above the law type thing and they really need an internal review and over haul. Most people probably forget the desicions that went against us but some of the absolute rubbish deductions we got against us in the 22/23 season and also 23/24 seasons I can never forget It’s funny it didn’t happen as much before that when we weren’t challenging for the league only now that we are As an Arsenal fan ask yourself when was the last time we were given a penalty? And also when was the last time a VAR review went for us and not against us I’ll wait, it’s quite a long time
Liverpool fan, but yes- you bet! We know the treatment and the dismissive attitudes. You can smell it- you can see it! I've seen the dodgy decisions against Arsenal as well. It's disgusting really. You can be sure there is xenophobia- particularly when a manager is at the top!
It’s time ALL FANS got together and stopped the tribalism. I don’t support Liverpool but this is a disgrace and one day it will affect ‘YOUR’ team. Try to see the bigger picture and unite to get these useless refs replaced.
@grahammclean7842 - the issue that this video causes as it now gives fans proof that refs may be biased against certain teams. If decisions clearly and regularly go against your team, you will now wonder if the ref actually doesn't want your team to succeed. I am a Liverpool fan but I am speaking as a football fan because we want all games to be fair.
This was obvious that the refs don’t like certain teams… The decisions I’ve seen over the last couple years against Liverpool, Arsenal and Wolves make that abundantly clear. Their decisions would NEVER go against Man City 💯
The most telling point about the officiating controversy is that it's the same officails week after week. Oliver , Kavanagh, Taylor , Atwell and Coote are all names we should not know but we do because of their incompetence and or corruption.
Liverpool fan here.That video confirmed everything a number of our supporters thought about the PGMOL. There have been some controversial decisions over the years that had an impact on the league. Personally, I never thought it was sheer incompetence. It's the best league in the world, yet this is what we have to deal with. To other supporters out there, don't ignore it because it's not affecting your club because you'll be on the wrong end of it sooner rather than later.
@toddjackson4706 - I'm a Liverpool fan too but what I will say is speaking 🗣️ as a football fan. We can only hope that this situation leads to an overhaul of refereeing in the EPL. If it doesn't, all teams need to come together and not accept this lack of sporting fairness.
It's beyond obvious some refs have biases against certain teams. Just look at the data of how they book teams (*cough* Kavanaugh). I can't think of another league or sport for that matter where anyone can name a single ref, let alone maybe the half dozen that are consistently brought up in EPL. It makes watching the league difficult
They're all in on it, even the commentators. The amount of times I've heard them justifying a blatant foul by blaming the other player for going down easy or saying it's only a coming together or accidental. Only to cry for other players to be carded when a similar or lesser scenario happens 5 mins later. This is the type of narrative that influenced the bad rep on players like Xhaka. He'd get a straight red for a challenge other players would get nothing or just a warning for.
He didnt want to give Kova a red card because he "didnt want to ruin the game" its been obvious for a while now with him, not particularly against Arsenal but 100% in favour of City
It's worse than that, it destroys the integrity of the EPL as it's obvious that the PGMOL officials feel invincible and can freely about this sort of thing.
This is exactly why it's infuriating that when any club's fans complain and whinge about certain poor decisions or a clear lack of consistency rival fans are more pre-occupied about the banter rather than everyone coming together and putting pressure on the PGMOL because some day it's going to affect your club too.
Great video, this is one of those moments where fans need to band together. I'm seeing lots of rivals of Liverpool make fun of them or take the mickey out of them for this but turn around and ask yourself if it was your club and your manager, you'd feel hard done by as well. I'm no Liverpool fan but I just think officiating is absolutely horrible in England the supposed best league in the world yet have the worst officiating. Fans can come together and perhaps make enough of a point to change something, who knows but it's a moment where we all as fans can come together and agree the refs are awful in the Prem.
Unfortunately tribalism takes over and too many fans can't see the bigger picture- its as clear as day that there are refs biased against certain clubs, managers or even players, just try proving it unless something like this surfaces
He called Klopp "A German Cnt" what about the Anti Racism campaign Kick it Out? And the manager of the English National Team is German, Tuchel can't be happy. Even if we ignore the PL games he's refereed, he has to be sacked from all tiers of English Football.
Totally agree with everything you've said, James. The PGMOL's lack of professionalism is the whole point! We should also discuss the questions Coote has raised in public, very clearly. Like how come Coote felt so open and free to speak in this way? It surely has to be because he believes there are no consequences. Also, is he the only official who views other professionals in this way? Of course not! And for me it vitally raises the question of the PGMOL audio being broadcast, which we know they don't want, and why?! Because they know how incompetent it will make them look, but it's the route to better standards and professionalism, which they claim to pursue! Thanks very much for your video, it's very good quality
It's not a surprise he slipped up. Because it's no wonder they feel arrogantly untouchable when they have the entire media/commentator/pundit apparatus doing everything in their power to defend them.
His words were disrespectful but what do you expect from these arrogant referees they never admit their mistakes. Whenever Managers say things against them,they get a bias against them(I know they are humans) but no one talks against them as they are all mates.Media also protects these referees.
There needs to be a United premier league protest against pgmol and force them into post match interviews and to be held accountable for their actions just as managers and coaches players are
Blatant corruption, from when Pickford almost decapitated Van Dijk to Odergards handball last season and so many others. That man has cost Liverpool titles.
What has Odegaarde handball got to do with it? Is it the one handling the ball with the hand on the side he fell on? Better go and read the rules b4 I use the c..t word on you too😮😂
@@asianafrican2023 its not about odegaard buddy, its about the refereeing. If this is just coote you can imagine what goes on about michael oliver, kavanagh, etc
ok, but lvpool got shagged vs man city as well. I agree with you, when a linesman can call a correct 4 inch offside but the ref blows 5 out of 10 calls somethings not right.
If true, this is a disgrace. How many more share these opinions and more importantly how many times have these biases affected decisions? Serious questions to answer and fully agree that the PGMOL is not fit for purpose
They have whe, no one is looking, between them, they know what they are doing, the "were investigating coote" is just pr. Its been happening for so long
He has Old Trafford on his facebook frontpage.. It was in 2020. The Pickford on Van Dijk that took him out for a year, the Rodri handball, The Ødegaard handball and not giving a pen this weekend. Its pure luck Nunez scored
This is the legacy of massive TV Rights payments for the Premier League. The PGMOL acts to put into play WWE-like Storylines for drama and theatrics. It does Not happen in European competitions as well as international ones.
Tierney has an even worse record of giving dodgy decisions against Liverpool. It's clear some of these refs are screwing teams over (not just Liverpool by the way).
Should all be investigated for fraud , external investigations - many names might just pop in this man city saga , embarrassing best league worst officials
6:00 Micheal Oliver said he didn't want to send off Kovavic to "not ruin the occasion" Wildly unprofessional as well. Not to mention moon-lighting in Dubai
PGMOL have been a blight on our game for a while now. It's time to explore alternatives and bin them - could outsourcing our refs to UEFA be a viable option?
It’s something we already know. But it does show something that’s people were trying to deny that referees are humans who also have their own personal hatred. Unconscious bias is a real thing and it’s possible it can have an affect on his decision making. Saying. Funny how he called kitten a german c**t and no one talking about that. Imagine he called him an African/asian c**t or something like that
By definition unconscious bias means that it does influence decision making- not simply that “it’s possible”. And everyone is talking about him calling Klopp a German c**t- they can’t say it verbatim but it’s getting a lot of media attention.
@@Alvin-jr9otI have seen this "imagine it was xyz" argument everywhere. Like a giant brain is pumping clichéd ideas into these people. A horde of people yelling "no one is talking about..." while they're all literally talking about it 😂. Almost like they're not concerned about the issue itself but rather focused on the "others".
I have not watched a game since the Rice sending off. The PL is a circus and the PGMOL are it's clowns. I hope people will eventually realize they should not spend a penny on this pile of garbage competition. The PL have been played by referees for at least 2 decades, I understand we football fans love our teams and we want to see them play, but I'll not let the PL circus take me for a fool. I'll watch and spend money when things change, if they ever do.
Youre spot on putting all the pieces together. Hard not to think the same about refs that dont like arsenal or arteta. And there must be a few that wont have a bias but will "have their mates back" whenevr its Arsenal related. Its an absolute joke and there should be a protest against the pgmol.
That will be horrible i assume, they don't like him at all, since Newcastle incident and he called them out , decisions has been going against arsenal 😂
Coyote’s position as on official in the league is untenable, if the league wants the fans to maintain trust in their officials. Especially after all that’s happened this season!
This is great for the league. We really needed the PGMOL to falter, because any complaints / allegations of unfairness are always swept under the rug. They are somehow more important than the players and coaches in the EPL
Mike Dean saying on commentary in the Chelsea Arsenal game that you get ‘one for free’ on delaying the restart and then laughing about it. As far from ‘letter of the law’ as you can get and it has affected Arsenals season
It's not just about klopp, the fact that he hates Liverpool and hate scousers in general, which his "friend" said....this is why Liverpool fans think he may have a serious bias, which would have definitely influenced the controversial decisions he made in many of the Liverpool games
"There's no proof he has something against Liverpool". What? Dude, didn't you hear Coote say he hates Liverpool and Scousers are awful? He does say that, apart from the Klopp stuff.
This is the proof that football fans were waiting for against the PGMOL and their standards. David Coote should be facing full consequences. Liverpool fans thinking that only bias exists against Liverpool is delusional. This video shows that only that has been caught on camera. I am 100% certain there is corruption and bias against all teams.
The question I'm asking is why has this come out now? Its an older video. Has someone been holding onto it and using it against Coote? The obvious scenario that comes to mind is spot-fixing. Give this many yellows, card this player etc and someone putting bit money on those bets. Has he done something wrong for the video to be released? And this isnt an isolated incident. Its obvious many refs dont like certain teams/players/managers and that comes into their decision making. They're a bottom tier organism who at best are incompetant to the core.
He may not have said that he referees the team differently to others but avoiding the manager because he doesn't like him is unfair. It's important to know that these refs are human and obviously have incidents that happen which cause statements like 'he's an arrogant c*nt', but man this is terrible. PGMOL needs to fix up because there are going to be more questions especially how they're becoming a part of the game as well as the players. It's disgusting
Lol when Mike Dean went on a podcast last year talking about “i didnt wanna put my mate under pressure” (paraphrasing ofc) but still, those refs are in control of a lot of points 😂 if they were actualy on Fantasy PL last week…. Whats going on? Are these people objective? Cmon now
Maybe you should question Arteta make a show on his blunders wasted opportunities. Makes stupidly sound like a virtue playing party right back. Arteta is afraid and fear reeks through the team.its on him .he has to go
@@victorobrien9011 did you miss the podcast where we went through for an hour what he’s getting wrong and how we can improve it? We don’t shy away from criticising Arteta here
@TheGoonerverse Thanks for the response didn't think you would I missed the podcast. I'm Arsenal fan all my days. 89 smith and Thomas then the invincibles onwards and upwards but we goes backwards been there for 21 years and will stay there with this lot. Edu is no loss Arteta should go in my opinion. Never seen so many opportunities wasted so badly I won't lose any sleep over them.more important things in life
a lot of people saying this shows corruption etc, it's a man saying what he thinks about someone who he came across at work - not nice and definitely unprofessional, should be punished (be it a ban, fine, sacking whatever) but he was saying what we all think anyway and of course as a ref he shouldn't say it but maybe if managers didnt scream at officials all day and in fourth officials faces then they wouldn't think they are c*nts.
He’s brought the PGMOL and the PL into disrepute. That counts as gross misconduct and should be a sackable offence. Referees have to be seen to try to be impartial. He can’t
The problem is- if there's one who's xenophobic and hateful towards a club and their manager, there are others against other clubs... This is alarming for everyone involved. Wether they punish him and the severity of the punishment, will determine if their's any faith left in Webb's outfit. (a pretty dodgy outfit, btw)
Who filmed it? Why did they film it? And why now? We all have opinions and we are entitled to them, but we don't have them put on public display. Makes you wonder what the motive is of all this.
From the way the two guys, Coote and his mate, were talking, they shared the first video with others at the time. The comment about not sharing it and his mate saying “we are not bad guys” and won’t get Coote sacked - the video was not private at the time.
Coote's comments are seriously worrying, most especially for Liverpool FC, for in his anti-Liverpool tirade he says " . . .WE all hate Scousers . . ." who is the "WE" he's referring to, the rest of his buddies, ergo the rest of the Prem officials? That needs to be ascertained by putting him under some serious pressure, for who else could he be referring to? Also if he said that about say any ethnic group, Starmer would have him behind bars right now, but because it's Scousers he gets a walk-over, the whole system stinks from top to bottom. We shouldn't allow this to be glossed over, or brushed under any carpet. Reply
Look it might be AI and if it is it is about to make a few people extremely rich, because it is one of the best I have seen so far. Where did they get the a voice sample though.
Coote has admitted it is genuine. I work in IT and I’m not sure AI could manage to produce that image of Hume holding up his phone with a picture of him, Milner and Klopp on it.
Sure, you can get rid of the PGMOL as a governing body; but what can you do about the referees anyway? It’s gonna be the same faces if not worse, isn’t it?
Believe you? Mate, anyone with a pair of working eyes can see what horrible state entire PGMOL is in. There are identical situations in a single game that are sanctioned differently.
@@Qlicky Mate, theres going to be plenty of content coming out now on how this asshole directly affected us winning the league at least 2 times. So when we Liverpool fans where saying there was an agenda against us and everyone else where talking shite about us saying we where the biggest bunch of moaners etc, now we have the proof. So yeah, now your gonna believe us is directed at that fact.
Its funny hes saying "oooh he called him the c word" lol but it really isnt that deep for people outside of england.. so whats the equivalent in america. Someome help meeeee
Paul Tierney is worse and the biased VAR TEAM . Knowing disallow a goal that wasn't offside. A week later Biased Howard Webb (FERGIE'S Ref) congratulates his team on a good job.
I mean... It sounded like he was talking about Liverpool in that game not in general. And he's talking about a manager thats not even in the league anymore. I hate PGMOL and the refs with a passion with this is overreacting imo
To even defend this is ridiculous. It's unprofessional and puts all the league integrity in doubt to a point of the games don't matter. It's who the refs prefer over the season and who's not pissed them off the most. PGMOL needs either disbanding or an almighty shake up.
David Coote has now said he doesn’t remember the incident but admits it’s a genuine video of him…
lmao he's finished
Lad was making out the CIA ran by scousers made a sophisticated deepfake and wrote a shitty script
He was drunk af thats why he dont remember lmao
@@DigontoZahid-lc7kt Drunk? Looked like Colombian marching powder to me.
@@DigontoZahid-lc7ktusing being drunk as an excuse
I reckon a few refs don't like Mikel Arteta because he complained about their obvious mistakes. Instead of accepting they made/make bad decisions that cost us points and quite possibly the PL title last year, they just increase their hidden animosity towards Arteta. The 10 men situations we found ourselves in this year could be that animosity in action.
discracia revenge with court, lets show him who rules here, here you go 3 reds, stop crying assna fans, like they say
I reckon Arsenal will win the PL thus season on GD 😅
Im 100% sure same is happening to Arteta since his rant against Newcastle last season.
I’ve been saying this
they was doing this to us all the season starts since we got serious, they just do not do this end of season so noone remembers, most people like a goldfish, its enogh to take some 5-10 points first half of the season by making some 50\50 go not our way, weird reds (remember 2 previous season swe had this too)
Liverpool fan here, yep clear as day. Arteta lashed out once and then the “mistakes” start happening more and more. These refs at the very least have vendetta’s and changed the results of TITLES.
Yep agree, I said this also. Bunch of corrupt pricks
The reason he spoke out against the Refs in the first place is there was so many terrible decisions going against us and what, now they punish him for speaking up.
PGMOL are operating like some Mafia above the law type thing and they really need an internal review and over haul.
Most people probably forget the desicions that went against us but some of the absolute rubbish deductions we got against us in the 22/23 season and also 23/24 seasons I can never forget
It’s funny it didn’t happen as much before that when we weren’t challenging for the league only now that we are
As an Arsenal fan ask yourself when was the last time we were given a penalty? And also when was the last time a VAR review went for us and not against us
I’ll wait, it’s quite a long time
Liverpool fan, but yes- you bet! We know the treatment and the dismissive attitudes. You can smell it- you can see it!
I've seen the dodgy decisions against Arsenal as well.
It's disgusting really. You can be sure there is xenophobia- particularly when a manager is at the top!
It’s time ALL FANS got together and stopped the tribalism. I don’t support Liverpool but this is a disgrace and one day it will affect ‘YOUR’ team. Try to see the bigger picture and unite to get these useless refs replaced.
Hate Liverpool fans
@grahammclean7842 - the issue that this video causes as it now gives fans proof that refs may be biased against certain teams. If decisions clearly and regularly go against your team, you will now wonder if the ref actually doesn't want your team to succeed.
I am a Liverpool fan but I am speaking as a football fan because we want all games to be fair.
This was obvious that the refs don’t like certain teams…
The decisions I’ve seen over the last couple years against Liverpool, Arsenal and Wolves make that abundantly clear.
Their decisions would NEVER go against Man City 💯
it goes city way so it will go like this if they are unpunished
I absolutely agree! These refs need to be held accountable. They use our love for our clubs against us. Meanwhile they operate in the shadows.
The most telling point about the officiating controversy is that it's the same officails week after week. Oliver , Kavanagh, Taylor , Atwell and Coote are all names we should not know but we do because of their incompetence and or corruption.
Liverpool fan here.That video confirmed everything a number of our supporters thought about the PGMOL. There have been some controversial decisions over the years that had an impact on the league. Personally, I never thought it was sheer incompetence. It's the best league in the world, yet this is what we have to deal with. To other supporters out there, don't ignore it because it's not affecting your club because you'll be on the wrong end of it sooner rather than later.
Maybe you will stop making fun of arsenal fans talking about refs :)
@@Vorobiov_Evgeny They blamed my Nan for not getting the penalty last game! It's not just refs the Arse moans about!
@@Pkp2306😂
@toddjackson4706 - I'm a Liverpool fan too but what I will say is speaking 🗣️ as a football fan. We can only hope that this situation leads to an overhaul of refereeing in the EPL. If it doesn't, all teams need to come together and not accept this lack of sporting fairness.
Well they are right about that German
It's beyond obvious some refs have biases against certain teams. Just look at the data of how they book teams (*cough* Kavanaugh). I can't think of another league or sport for that matter where anyone can name a single ref, let alone maybe the half dozen that are consistently brought up in EPL. It makes watching the league difficult
Him Oliver Tierney Cootes all need to be investigated
They're all in on it, even the commentators. The amount of times I've heard them justifying a blatant foul by blaming the other player for going down easy or saying it's only a coming together or accidental. Only to cry for other players to be carded when a similar or lesser scenario happens 5 mins later. This is the type of narrative that influenced the bad rep on players like Xhaka. He'd get a straight red for a challenge other players would get nothing or just a warning for.
Well I can think of any sport, even in other leagues the city of origin is mentioned next to the name in Italy for example
Just imagine what Micheal Oliver says about Arsenal on his off-days.
PGMOL is a traveling band of clowns that are turning the PL into a circus
He didnt want to give Kova a red card because he "didnt want to ruin the game" its been obvious for a while now with him, not particularly against Arsenal but 100% in favour of City
Completely destroys the integrity of PGMOL, or whatever little integrity was left of it…
It's worse than that, it destroys the integrity of the EPL as it's obvious that the PGMOL officials feel invincible and can freely about this sort of thing.
Agreed
This is exactly why it's infuriating that when any club's fans complain and whinge about certain poor decisions or a clear lack of consistency rival fans are more pre-occupied about the banter rather than everyone coming together and putting pressure on the PGMOL because some day it's going to affect your club too.
Exactly. People care more about mocking their rivals and throwing out buzzwords than wanting to improve the game.
The PGMOL will investigate themselves and find no wrong doing. Just you wait.
corrupt PGMOL
Great video, this is one of those moments where fans need to band together. I'm seeing lots of rivals of Liverpool make fun of them or take the mickey out of them for this but turn around and ask yourself if it was your club and your manager, you'd feel hard done by as well. I'm no Liverpool fan but I just think officiating is absolutely horrible in England the supposed best league in the world yet have the worst officiating. Fans can come together and perhaps make enough of a point to change something, who knows but it's a moment where we all as fans can come together and agree the refs are awful in the Prem.
Unfortunately tribalism takes over and too many fans can't see the bigger picture- its as clear as day that there are refs biased against certain clubs, managers or even players, just try proving it unless something like this surfaces
@@paulinebarbara5665 yep that's exactly right
He called Klopp "A German Cnt" what about the Anti Racism campaign Kick it Out? And the manager of the English National Team is German, Tuchel can't be happy. Even if we ignore the PL games he's refereed, he has to be sacked from all tiers of English Football.
Didn't you know that it's only racism if it's white on black/brown?
It’s not racism but it is xenophobia.
Being German is not a race it's a nationality.
Totally agree with everything you've said, James. The PGMOL's lack of professionalism is the whole point! We should also discuss the questions Coote has raised in public, very clearly. Like how come Coote felt so open and free to speak in this way? It surely has to be because he believes there are no consequences. Also, is he the only official who views other professionals in this way? Of course not!
And for me it vitally raises the question of the PGMOL audio being broadcast, which we know they don't want, and why?! Because they know how incompetent it will make them look, but it's the route to better standards and professionalism, which they claim to pursue!
Thanks very much for your video, it's very good quality
It's not a surprise he slipped up. Because it's no wonder they feel arrogantly untouchable when they have the entire media/commentator/pundit apparatus doing everything in their power to defend them.
His words were disrespectful but what do you expect from these arrogant referees they never admit their mistakes.
Whenever Managers say things against them,they get a bias against them(I know they are humans) but no one talks against them as they are all mates.Media also protects these referees.
There needs to be a United premier league protest against pgmol and force them into post match interviews and to be held accountable for their actions just as managers and coaches players are
Blatant corruption, from when Pickford almost decapitated Van Dijk to Odergards handball last season and so many others. That man has cost Liverpool titles.
What has Odegaarde handball got to do with it? Is it the one handling the ball with the hand on the side he fell on? Better go and read the rules b4 I use the c..t word on you too😮😂
@@asianafrican2023 its not about odegaard buddy, its about the refereeing. If this is just coote you can imagine what goes on about michael oliver, kavanagh, etc
ok, but lvpool got shagged vs man city as well. I agree with you, when a linesman can call a correct 4 inch offside but the ref blows 5 out of 10 calls somethings not right.
If true, this is a disgrace. How many more share these opinions and more importantly how many times have these biases affected decisions? Serious questions to answer and fully agree that the PGMOL is not fit for purpose
PGMOL was always fishy and now it has been proven so.
It’s never just one, it only takes one to get caught. I’m sure there are other refs that have said the same about any other manager
They have whe, no one is looking, between them, they know what they are doing, the "were investigating coote" is just pr. Its been happening for so long
He has Old Trafford on his facebook frontpage.. It was in 2020. The Pickford on Van Dijk that took him out for a year, the Rodri handball, The Ødegaard handball and not giving a pen this weekend. Its pure luck Nunez scored
In the words of Arteta… “It’s a disgrace!”
Video is 100% real. PGMOL is 100% co-rupt. These refs know exactly what they are doing
This is the legacy of massive TV Rights payments for the Premier League. The PGMOL acts to put into play WWE-like Storylines for drama and theatrics. It does Not happen in European competitions as well as international ones.
I disagree. The referee is about to lose his job here. This is no act.
@@teidorhalariblahI can see that reading is not one of your strengths.
Tierney has an even worse record of giving dodgy decisions against Liverpool. It's clear some of these refs are screwing teams over (not just Liverpool by the way).
The worst part of the video was actually him mentioning his nationality
Should all be investigated for fraud , external investigations - many names might just pop in this man city saga , embarrassing best league worst officials
PL clubs need to come together and collectively agree to dissolve the PGMOL. Gut it. Bring in top referees and rebrand the PGMOL
Definitely match rigging going on, so obvious. Just say it, if you love the game, speak up
The most corrupt officiating outfit on planet earth
6:00 Micheal Oliver said he didn't want to send off Kovavic to "not ruin the occasion"
Wildly unprofessional as well. Not to mention moon-lighting in Dubai
Apparently he has admitted it is him in the video but CAN’T remember saying those comments.
Yeah right.
Look at his eyes in the video. Seems a substance might have been involved
PGMOL have been a blight on our game for a while now. It's time to explore alternatives and bin them - could outsourcing our refs to UEFA be a viable option?
It’s something we already know. But it does show something that’s people were trying to deny that referees are humans who also have their own personal hatred. Unconscious bias is a real thing and it’s possible it can have an affect on his decision making. Saying.
Funny how he called kitten a german c**t and no one talking about that. Imagine he called him an African/asian c**t or something like that
By definition unconscious bias means that it does influence decision making- not simply that “it’s possible”.
And everyone is talking about him calling Klopp a German c**t- they can’t say it verbatim but it’s getting a lot of media attention.
This is pretty conscious bias tho mate
@@Alvin-jr9otI have seen this "imagine it was xyz" argument everywhere. Like a giant brain is pumping clichéd ideas into these people. A horde of people yelling "no one is talking about..." while they're all literally talking about it 😂.
Almost like they're not concerned about the issue itself but rather focused on the "others".
Dean should NEVER be on Sky Sports as he makes me want to cancel my subscription. Mike Dean had a real axe to grind against Arsenal as well.
FA, Premier League, PGMOL, VAR
Seriously, Need to be Improved....
Ppl are too bias and too nice/naive to beleive that refs are not corrupt.
I have not watched a game since the Rice sending off. The PL is a circus and the PGMOL are it's clowns. I hope people will eventually realize they should not spend a penny on this pile of garbage competition.
The PL have been played by referees for at least 2 decades, I understand we football fans love our teams and we want to see them play, but I'll not let the PL circus take me for a fool.
I'll watch and spend money when things change, if they ever do.
Coote looks coked off his head pupils popping, PGMOL is the original old boys club......
Youre spot on putting all the pieces together. Hard not to think the same about refs that dont like arsenal or arteta. And there must be a few that wont have a bias but will "have their mates back" whenevr its Arsenal related. Its an absolute joke and there should be a protest against the pgmol.
Then they tell us they're not biased against teams or their managers. Dishonest, all of them. They'll scapegoat him and brush this under the carpet.
I’d love to hear their thoughts on Mikel 😂
That will be horrible i assume, they don't like him at all, since Newcastle incident and he called them out , decisions has been going against arsenal 😂
Red eyes, steaming ears and frothing at the mouth😂
Coyote’s position as on official in the league is untenable, if the league wants the fans to maintain trust in their officials. Especially after all that’s happened this season!
Excellent take mate. Spot on.
So are we willing ti admit that there are agendas against certain clubs, it could NOT be more obvious
This is great for the league. We really needed the PGMOL to falter, because any complaints / allegations of unfairness are always swept under the rug. They are somehow more important than the players and coaches in the EPL
Mike Dean saying on commentary in the Chelsea Arsenal game that you get ‘one for free’ on delaying the restart and then laughing about it. As far from ‘letter of the law’ as you can get and it has affected Arsenals season
It's not just about klopp, the fact that he hates Liverpool and hate scousers in general, which his "friend" said....this is why Liverpool fans think he may have a serious bias, which would have definitely influenced the controversial decisions he made in many of the Liverpool games
"There's no proof he has something against Liverpool". What? Dude, didn't you hear Coote say he hates Liverpool and Scousers are awful? He does say that, apart from the Klopp stuff.
This is the proof that football fans were waiting for against the PGMOL and their standards.
David Coote should be facing full consequences.
Liverpool fans thinking that only bias exists against Liverpool is delusional. This video shows that only that has been caught on camera. I am 100% certain there is corruption and bias against all teams.
Corrupt refs and corrupt league
The question I'm asking is why has this come out now? Its an older video. Has someone been holding onto it and using it against Coote? The obvious scenario that comes to mind is spot-fixing. Give this many yellows, card this player etc and someone putting bit money on those bets. Has he done something wrong for the video to be released? And this isnt an isolated incident. Its obvious many refs dont like certain teams/players/managers and that comes into their decision making. They're a bottom tier organism who at best are incompetant to the core.
He may not have said that he referees the team differently to others but avoiding the manager because he doesn't like him is unfair. It's important to know that these refs are human and obviously have incidents that happen which cause statements like 'he's an arrogant c*nt', but man this is terrible. PGMOL needs to fix up because there are going to be more questions especially how they're becoming a part of the game as well as the players. It's disgusting
Lol when Mike Dean went on a podcast last year talking about “i didnt wanna put my mate under pressure” (paraphrasing ofc) but still, those refs are in control of a lot of points 😂 if they were actualy on Fantasy PL last week…. Whats going on? Are these people objective? Cmon now
Maybe you should question Arteta make a show on his blunders wasted opportunities. Makes stupidly sound like a virtue playing party right back. Arteta is afraid and fear reeks through the team.its on him .he has to go
@@victorobrien9011 did you miss the podcast where we went through for an hour what he’s getting wrong and how we can improve it? We don’t shy away from criticising Arteta here
@TheGoonerverse Thanks for the response didn't think you would I missed the podcast. I'm Arsenal fan all my days. 89 smith and Thomas then the invincibles onwards and upwards but we goes backwards been there for 21 years and will stay there with this lot. Edu is no loss Arteta should go in my opinion. Never seen so many opportunities wasted so badly I won't lose any sleep over them.more important things in life
I bet you were every manager out mug@@victorobrien9011
The game in England is fixed
The PGMOL ruin this league weekend week out
a lot of people saying this shows corruption etc, it's a man saying what he thinks about someone who he came across at work - not nice and definitely unprofessional, should be punished (be it a ban, fine, sacking whatever) but he was saying what we all think anyway and of course as a ref he shouldn't say it but maybe if managers didnt scream at officials all day and in fourth officials faces then they wouldn't think they are c*nts.
further...I didn't realise he called him a 'German' c word which makes me think he will be sacked.
He’s brought the PGMOL and the PL into disrepute. That counts as gross misconduct and should be a sackable offence. Referees have to be seen to try to be impartial. He can’t
Id like to see them review the video on Ref Watch
The problem is- if there's one who's xenophobic and hateful towards a club and their manager, there are others against other clubs...
This is alarming for everyone involved. Wether they punish him and the severity of the punishment, will determine if their's any faith left in Webb's outfit. (a pretty dodgy outfit, btw)
Who filmed it? Why did they film it? And why now? We all have opinions and we are entitled to them, but we don't have them put on public display. Makes you wonder what the motive is of all this.
From the way the two guys, Coote and his mate, were talking, they shared the first video with others at the time. The comment about not sharing it and his mate saying “we are not bad guys” and won’t get Coote sacked - the video was not private at the time.
Coote's comments are seriously worrying, most especially for Liverpool FC, for in his anti-Liverpool tirade he says " . . .WE all hate Scousers . . ." who is the "WE" he's referring to, the rest of his buddies, ergo the rest of the Prem officials? That needs to be ascertained by putting him under some serious pressure, for who else could he be referring to? Also if he said that about say any ethnic group, Starmer would have him behind bars right now, but because it's Scousers he gets a walk-over, the whole system stinks from top to bottom. We shouldn't allow this to be glossed over, or brushed under any carpet.
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Imagine what they say about Mikel Arteta after his remarks. Arsenal fans should feel vindicated. We knew it was not just “incompetence”
Arsenal fans should be vindicated by a clip that has nothing to do with Arsenal - another level of nonsense
@ you are busy replying to everyone are you a PGMOL burner account ?
@@madyYON na just find the whole 'refs are all against us' narrative so cringe. Every fan of every club says it lol.
Look it might be AI and if it is it is about to make a few people extremely rich, because it is one of the best I have seen so far. Where did they get the a voice sample though.
Coote has admitted it is genuine. I work in IT and I’m not sure AI could manage to produce that image of Hume holding up his phone with a picture of him, Milner and Klopp on it.
Coote denied then confirmed it was him! So stop saying allegedly!!!
Yes I’ve said this in the pinned tweet - at the time of recording I didn’t know that, obviously?
@TheGoonerverse 👍
I hope they are finished James, they need a major overhaul
If a mostly lovable guy like klopp gets abuse from these corrupt gits imagine what they think of arteta.
Sure, you can get rid of the PGMOL as a governing body; but what can you do about the referees anyway? It’s gonna be the same faces if not worse, isn’t it?
Let’s hope PGMOL is done!
There's some off pixels in the video on his hair. I think it's fake
Finally! I have been telling you guys to stop pussyfooting around the word 'corruption' when it comes to EPL refs!!
And now your gonna believe us, And now your gonna believe us, And now your gonna believe us, we knew this all along. YNWA.
Believe you?
Mate, anyone with a pair of working eyes can see what horrible state entire PGMOL is in.
There are identical situations in a single game that are sanctioned differently.
@@Qlicky Mate, theres going to be plenty of content coming out now on how this asshole directly affected us winning the league at least 2 times. So when we Liverpool fans where saying there was an agenda against us and everyone else where talking shite about us saying we where the biggest bunch of moaners etc, now we have the proof. So yeah, now your gonna believe us is directed at that fact.
you knew everyone thought Klopp was c*nt? didn't take a genius
Now imagine how refs feel about Mikel and how much THAT has impacted their decisions.
Imagine if you were a real fan?
Nope neither can I..
@ how lonely must you be
We have to be careful. AI can create very realistic video.
AI is not that advanced yet, but this is a snapshot of the future everythin will have the ability to be explained away with "its AI fake..."
Thoughts?
Great vid but, important questions: really like your jumpers, where'd you get them from ahah?
Following your question and hoping he answers.
it's bad and he should be punished - but nobody here is considering the fact managers should not be c*nts towards officials
Further proof that English refereeing just keeps getting WORST and WORST.
Its funny hes saying "oooh he called him the c word" lol but it really isnt that deep for people outside of england.. so whats the equivalent in america. Someome help meeeee
Cancel their contract ! What kind of fixed arrangement is this? Poor quality of refereeing will bring down the EPL
The PGMOL should get a share are the 21th club in the PL and use those funds hiring the BEST referees in Europe.
U should support your local club
Ai lmao is definitely not that convincing 😅😅😢😅😅
It's a disgracia!!!!!
Let football unite against the refs, they are awful and all the pundits defend them
English refs foreign managers
get a pop filter.
Paul Tierney is worse and the biased VAR TEAM .
Knowing disallow a goal that wasn't offside.
A week later Biased Howard Webb
(FERGIE'S Ref) congratulates his team on a good job.
CORRUPT FA
CORRUPT VAR
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I mean... It sounded like he was talking about Liverpool in that game not in general. And he's talking about a manager thats not even in the league anymore. I hate PGMOL and the refs with a passion with this is overreacting imo
Yet if it was about Arteta you'd be swarming online like the avengers
Well when the video was recorded klopp was in the league
To even defend this is ridiculous. It's unprofessional and puts all the league integrity in doubt to a point of the games don't matter. It's who the refs prefer over the season and who's not pissed them off the most. PGMOL needs either disbanding or an almighty shake up.
@@thevision645 Oliver reffing games in the UAE is 100000 times worse than this.
agreed but I imagine it is an old video - seems random to talk about that game during lockdown now - who knows
He didn't say anything wrong, klopp was a muppet and Liverpool get all the dodgy decisions in their favour anyway
You are an absolute liar, Liverpool have been constantly robbed. Grow up.
@worldofootballfc shuuuushh, villa should have had 2 penalties against you, Chelsea should have had at least 1
@ chelsea wasn’t a penalty, none of the villa ones were penalties. Shush.
@@worldofootballfc they were all penalties shuuuush you've been Peps bridesmaids
@ they weren’t penalties, and we were bridesmaids especially in 21/22 as we were robbed the title. Shush bozo
Now hopefully this will open up a can of worms 🪱 especially against Arsenal James 😬
And explain why they've never won the CL 😅
There are no good referees in England