I haven't played either but I've looked at Feast for Odin before. And after watching this I think I am TEAM FEAST. But I would like to play both at some point.
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Great video. I would say .. if you are gonna spend a whole hour comparing these two games (they absolutely deserve it!) .. but at that point I do think it’s fair to include the expansions in the discussion of which is ultimately the better game. Sounds like y’all haven’t played with Norwegians much but for me this is what places Feast as the clear number one. Team FEAST! That said when I think about which game I could play forever it might be Agricola as I think at a certain point Feast becomes more clear on what strategies are most viable (not there yet but I suspect this could be more possible since the cards are so much less relevant to the broader strategy). Thanks for the vid!
We haven't played any expansions for either game actually! Aside from some additional card decks for Agricola. But Dylann recently got The Norwegians finally, so we'll try it out soon. Sounds like your assessment of your short-term vs long-term enjoyment of both games could mirror exactly how I feel, it just so happens I've played Agricola over 150 times now and I've played Feast around 20 or 25 times. I've lost the urge to play Feast a bit (hopefully The Norwegians changes that) but I still absolutely love Agricola with every play. Thanks for watching! - Carlo
I play games mainly at 2P with my wife and we are definitely TEAM AGRICOLA. Love how tight the game is, where every single decision is not only impactful, but also cascades down to future actions. There is a certain amount of meanness to it that I really enjoy too. If we wanted to play a Uwe tile laying game, we'd go with Patchwork or New York Zoo instead!
Yup, that cascade effect is definitely more present in Agricola than A Feast for Odin. As for polyomino tile-laying, if you like Patchwork and New York Zoo I'd recommend Spring Meadow! Of all his lighter polyomino games, Patchwork and Spring Meadow are the two I enjoy most. - Carlo
You two continue to make me smile. I have no personal experience with either game, but I happened to recently watch Amy and Maggie's video on AFFO and it was very compelling! Some of your arguments here, including your own concessions Carlo, have tipped me to team Feast
Amy and Maggie are wonderful, and A Feast for Odin is a great game! I'd be curious to hear what you think once you've played them both if you get around to it. Let us know in the Discord if you do!
I know I passed the give away day, but I just wanted to say Team Feast of Odin! Mind you, I haven’t played either game but FoO seems really cool, and it is on my next by list!
Silver AND beans!!! 😂 What a wonderful comparison & super fun video... thank you so much for having us take part. "you might not enjoy Agricola more after 10 or even 20 games" 😏 team feast forever !!!!!! 💕
Thank you so much for taking the time to put together such a great little video clip! Even though I'm a LITTLE sad you chose Team Feast, I can absolutely respect it, and I'll hold out hope that maybe one day Agricola will overtake A Feast For Odin for you once you get above 20 plays, hehe... and if not, your #1 game of all-time is still amazing. Hope to play either game with you both some day! - Carlo
Dude I just played Feast a few days ago and it became my favorite game ever. It was my first heavy game or score above 3 in complexity on BGG. It was my first big Uwe game. I loved the possibilities and choices and im itching to go back and refine my strategy and explore. People don’t like dice but I even found the hunting thrilling lol
Team FEAST!! I love the Viking theme, and even though I've never played it I have been wanting to for years. I've watched and read many reviews and I know this game is for me. Hopefully I will take the plunge and buy it this year
Gotta go with Agricola. The tightness of the game coupled with the game changing cards is unmatched. Although there is certainly room for both on my shelf. Uwe is the man.
The tightness of Agricola is what makes it unpopular with my some of my more casual peeps (including my girlfriend) so Feast for Odin sees table time, while Agricola just kinda collects dust because people are afraid of having a bad time. Agricola, despite the inviting theme is very deceiving. People often think "oh I can manage my own farm and grow animals and stuff!" -> No, as a beginner you're constantly on the verge of starving and by the end of the game MAYBE you'll have something that resembles a farm but just when you start feeling good about yourself, the game ends. So to me Agricola is much more of a "Gamer's Game" (especially with the card drafting, which is really the way to play but everyone NEEDS to know how to play the game well) while Feast of Odin, despite the complexity, you can absolutely this game inflict even on new players. And even if comparatively they might be doing horribly, that will mostly be reflected by a lower score at the end but even the last player will have filled up most of their homeboard and an island and generally have accomplished some stuff and feel okay about themselves. Meanwhile in Agricola, a first time player who did badly might be lucky to not be in the negative scores.
My wife and I both really enjoy playing Agricola. Neither of us have ever played A Feast for Odin but I am interested in playing it. I like the tension and suspense in Agricola.
TEAM FEAST....I've played Feast of Odin many times and absolutely love the game. Haven't played Argicola yet. Would love to add both games to our family's collection of board games. Keep up the great content and congratulations on 10k!!!
Team Agricola! I love how every action you take in the game is basically crucial to the final result. The theme is perfectly combined with the tension of making your farmers eat during the ending of the plague. The game is incredibly variable due to the cards you will draft at the start of the game, therefore the long-term strategy will always be different in every game. I never played AFfO because I was always afraid of the big box...but I would love to try it! Love from Rome! 🇮🇹
If you've played Agricola, you have nothing to be scared of in A Feast for Odin. It's a more complicated game, but it's not more complex, if you know what I mean. There are more things to learn, but it's easier to play and make decisions throughout the game. But I totally agree with your comments on Agricola, especially the importance of each action and also the cards. - Carlo
TEAM AGRICOLA it was my first "modern boardgame" and I dont own Feast, and I am werry excited to try that out. I enjoy your channel and you guys aproch and attitude werry much, keep up the good work :-)
Such a fun video! I have yet to play either, but looking forward to trying them both. I feel like given descriptions on gameplay, I will probably be TEAM AGRICOLA!
Team Feast! It's a joy everytime, and seeing it setup always makes me excited to play again; Although I think I agree with Carlo's point at the end, with enough plays and more familiarity with Agricola I could see myself changing teams. Great video, fun to see two of Uwe's best games compared like this!
I think you're the first person in the comments on Team Feast who said that (about maybe changing teams one day), so thanks for that! Both games are amazing though. - Carlo
TEAM FEAST The thing is... I don't own any of this game, nor have I played them. However, the name I hear once and again since I stumble into the hobby three years ago is A Feast for Odin. So many people have talked about how interesting and fun it is to play it that I just keep thinking about giving it a go. I thing however in this debate the thing that made me take this side is the idea of showing it to people. Because I like to play a lot with different persons, often times my favorite part is watching the spark in their eyes the moment they get a game and are 200% into it. I believe Feast might be one of those games.
For sure, a lot of people fall in love with A Feast for Odin when they first play it, and I did too. I just don't think it gets better with each play in the same way Agricola does, but it's still a really good game.
Let's see, be a raiding, pillaging Viking, or a, struggle to feed your family farmer. TEAM FEAST, of course! Feast has so much to offer in a game; so many options. Agricola is a very fine game, but I prefer less cutthroat games. I'd never turn down an Uwe game though. He's a master of board game creation. Dylann, you hit the nail on the head. Feeding your Vikings is not as worrisome as feeding your family. The polyomino field below the Viking dining room allows you to plan ahead. It's actually one of the first things I do each round to assure it won't be a concern. Struggling to feed someone really stresses me out. There is additional material included in Feast, that details different aspects of Viking life which really enriches gameplay. Loved your debate. Very fun to watch!!!
Thanks Heidi! The theme of A Feast for Odin is definitely more intriguing, and you're right that feeding your family isn't as stressful in AFFO. There's just something about the way that Agricola all comes together, it just feels so satisfying and addictive. While I still love AFFO, I don't get that same pull to want to go back and play immediately. They're both still amazing games though. Thanks again for the kind words and all your support recently! - Carlo
TEAM FEAST So glad you all did this video. Just discovered your channel and have been binge watching your videos and I am loving you content! I am newer to the hobby and am wanting to get my 1st uwe rosenburg big box game. I have some of his smaller games like cottage garden and really enjoy it. But wanting something heavier. A feast is much more appealing to me than agricola and seems more unique. I would love for you guys to do a compare video of all of the uwe big box games to help someone new to the hobby understand the differences and which one might be best fit to add to their collection. Im overwhelmed by his games and dont know where to start and what the differences are. So it would be nice from “Uwe experts” like yall.
Thank you so much, Rebecca! We really appreciate the kind words and we're glad to hear you're enjoying the channel! We haven't played some of the big Uwe games yet like Le Havre, Caverna, Fields of Arle, and Ora et Labora, but I think once we've played those we'll be ready to do a video covering all of his bigger games. I just got Le Havre recently so we're one step closer! Believe me, it's one of our board gaming goals, to try all the Uwe games asap, so we hope to accomplish that soon but we'll see. - Carlo
Ola! Great content, please keep it up. I haven't played any yet but my instinct would take me to be on TEAM FEAST, because of the open possibilities and different strategies.
As someone super new to the hobby(also someone who hasn’t played either) I think I have to say team feast.. it just looks more appealing. Really enjoy your positive videos, super refreshing!
I have not played either yet. Although I’m interested in playing both, I am most interested in playing and buying AFFO. Team Feast!Everything Dylan said really resonated with me. Congrats on 10k milestone!
TEAM FEAST! The choices are so plentiful and crunchy! And the polyomino part of it satisfies such an itch! My brother introduced me to hobby board games and constantly wanted to play Agricola, I never won! Thanks for all your great content and congrats on 10k!
Me over here yelling “Caverna is the real winner!” 🤣👏🏻 just kidding, I haven’t actually ever played either Agricola or A Feast For Odin. I have heard Agricola and Caverna are similar so I will have to go Team Agricola! Would love a chance to play them both eventually! Great video guys and congrats on 10K subscribers! 👏🏻
Team Feast, but I enjoy both for different reasons. As Carlo said, Agricola feels more about mastering the game, having a predictably randomized gameplay loop. A Feast for Odin is more about exploring a shifting puzzle from different angles. The cards in Agricola ask you to see a path from the start of the game, in Feast they simply offer you a place to start. A Feast for Odin wins for me because it gives me - the person knowing and explaining the game - a chance to have a fun game exploring a weird angle, while new players enjoy themselves and have an actual chance to win. In Agricola, somebody who knows the game will either crush new players or has to play inefficient, and both aren't fun. It's a great game, but it requires players of similar skill.
I agree 100% with your comment, except for the fact that I'm on Team Agricola obviously. But you're absolutely right - if I was showing either game to a group of new players, I'd probably have more fun toying around with the system in Feast as well compared to possibly destroying new players in Agricola. Thanks for the super thoughtful comment. - Carlo
Excellent video, I was very pleased to see the comparison...as I have played neither. Even though Agricola my have a less appealing theme, I like the "take that" element in games in general...where you can do some strategic blocking, etc...I think that element is definitely a product of the games age. In our current world of participation trophies (where competitiveness and winning is "not fair for everyone")...I like that. I like to be rewarded for my creative thinking and planning in general. Also, just wanted to know what is hard to understand about a silver buying you a meal?...most people do this every week! The only thing missing, is touching on how both games solo (if at all).
Team Agricola. Love the sheer amount of variety from the cards. "fast" setup when compared to Feast for odin. Prefer feast for odin at 2, Will play agricola at much wider player count.
Big fan of Agricola! Haven't played Feast but would really like to give it a go. Came here to hear more about Feast actually, so thanks for this! So, Team Agricola, I guess...?
Although Carlo's arguments are way better, as usual. I'm Team Feast on this one, love Dyllan's enthusiasm. Hope you will do more of these vids, nice twist.
Hey Kim, glad to hear you enjoyed the video but I'm not sure it's fair to say my arguments are way better. Dylann made some great points about A Feast for Odin here, and I think we have some pretty balanced discussions overall in our videos. I realize you probably meant it more as a compliment to me than an insult to Dylann, so it's all good, clearly no ill will, I just wouldn't want anyone who sees this to get the wrong impression if they haven't watched many of our other videos. Either way, thanks for watching and leaving a comment! We'll definitely do more videos comparing games going forward. - Carlo
#teamfeast. Agricola is clearly legendary, and challenging, and intricately put together, but Feast is so much more engaging and thematic and fun. Congrats on the milestone guys.
TEAM AGRICOLA! I love the farming style which reminds me of the video game, Harvest Moon. I also enjoy being able to change up the resource choices for every play 🐮🚜
Own both, love both. Only one is my all-time favourite, and that's Agricola! The ideal amount of interaction, pressure and variety. Still thrilling, a hundred plays on. Don't worry Dylann - A Feast for Odin is my favourite solo design! But with other players involved, I'm #teamagricola all the way.
I have been torn between these two since I started watching your videos! You both have such good points that it's still a really tough decision because I haven't played either yet but I think my final vote is team FEAST. Thanks for the great debate!
Great video - I confess to being Team Agricola. Had this for a long time - first learned how to play worker placement on my own (self taught) with Agricola Family Edition so the whole series has a special place in my collection. I have also purchased A Feast For Odin, and am starting to get into this, but I still find it hard marrying up why a polyomino tile of a rock on an island means you don't lose points from a thematic point of view! The amazing wealth of extra cards that have come out for Agricola Revised Edition over the years has also helped replayability - maybe more will come out for AFFO in time as well (although there are a large number in the base game! Shame the money in AFFO is quite small and hard to pick up at times in order to place on your island/dining table ;-)
Good point about the money being so small! I've been playing on BGA recently so that hasn't been an issue. And glad to hear you agree about the theme. :) Still an amazing game though, of course. - Carlo
I like both, Agricola has like you pointed out more competition between players. You can block and have to block other players. Odin I feel you more play your own game and not against each other. Agricola is a bit lighter allowing you to also socialize a bit more during the game, While Odin has so many options you are deep in your game that you are not chatting as much with your friends. Now, Caverna will bring team Odin and team Agrigola together. It is a great alternative that combines elements from both.
Congrats on 10k!! Unfortunately, I've only played Agricola so I can't vote fairly, but I will say I enjoyed the game. Feast for Odin is on my wishlist, though! Great video guys, loved the thematic intro and Carlo not being sure if he was gonna go back in time or jump 8 months into the future 😅🤣
I think this is one of my favorite videos you’ve done. Thank you for this!!! Having not played either, and solely based on the video (and having played other Uwe games including Caverna, Hallertau, and Patchwork), I think Agricola will be the first of the two I will purchase (probably tomorrow). #teamagricola #lovethisdebate #opentobeprovenwrong
Wow, thanks! We were definitely passionate about this topics, that's for sure. I know you've played Agricola since you left this comment (sorry we're so late going back through hundreds of these comments) and I'm happy to hear you're on the right team, even if A Feast for Odin is also an amazing game. - Carlo
I've played, have, and enjoy both. Prefer A Feast for Odin overall as I find there is more varied strategy you can employ. Carlo lost me at 26:09 when mentioning Terraforming Mars. If you are 2/3rds of the way through Terraforming Mars new cards should only be kept (as you have to pay to keep them) if they play heavily into your strategy and you can see them paying themselves off quickly. I will add that the issue you have with nothing to do with cards that don't play into your strategy in AFFO is fixed by The Norwegians expansion. It adds the option to get rid of an occupation when you could otherwise play it to score bonus points. I'd say it resolves most issues I had with the base game and makes it a more streamlined experience. If you haven't played it yet I highly reccomend it, I don't play without it anymore.
There is no "heavy competition" for spaces in Agricola because you can't go after only one resource (unless you plan on losing). For example, a player blocked your sheep? Go for the pigs, and wait until the next round when the other player goes for the pigs, and you take the sheep.
I'm sure you understood the rules correctly, but it doesn't sound like you understood the strategy of the game. It would never really make sense to take 1 single sheep or boar in the round immediately after someone else took a pile of them. If someone goes to one of those spaces, then next round there's only one of that resource there, and if you're taking just 1 sheep or 1 boar with an action, that alone will probably set you far behind. I've never seen anyone do that and win. And your point about there being no heavy competition doesn't make any sense. It has nothing to do with going for one single resource, I think you misunderstood what I said in the video. Everyone needs REED to build rooms and renovate their house. Building rooms allows you to get more family members. So if you're not going for reed and you let your opponent keep getting it, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose unless you have an Occupation or Minor Improvement that helps you get reed in some other way. Similarly, if you're not racing for the first Family Growth spot to get more workers, you're probably not going to be in a competitive enough spot to have a chance of winning. - Carlo
Team Agricola for me! I’m still fairly new to the game, probably played 8 times, but really enjoying it, and honestly when I’ve looked at Feast for Odin it just seemed too complicated.
Team Feast! Another thorough and entertaining video as always, thanks! BTW, I recently picked up Glass Road based on your recommendations, can't wait to try it out.
I've not yet played either but so keen on both. I think Feast just slightly wins for me, as I prefer the theme plus I'm a big fan of polyomino games at the moment!
TEAM FEAST. Love the area on the board. How you get the items can at times feels a little stale but always love the puzzle of fitting the pieces together
Team Feast. The Viking theme is more appealing and I think it would be easier to persuade my family to play with me. Would be happy to try argricola too
Fun discussion! I haven't had the opportunity to play either, but I posted earlier that I was on team Feast based on what I knew.. but after watching your video I'm switching to TEAM FEAST. I like the idea that the decisions you make have consequences.. some might call it 'punishment', but to me it adds enjoyable weight to the decisions you make. I also admit that adherence to theme is something that bothers me more than it should. I'd disagree that polyominos are inherently hard to incorporate into a them. You mentioned Patchwork.. but also Cottage Garden, Isle of Cats, Cartographers, etc are games the incorporate polyominoes well into the theme. I could imagine a version of feast where maybe polys placed on the island represented villages and roads, and maybe polys placed on a banquet table could be plates of food, etc. Great work!
I'm not sure if you meant Agricola in one of those instances in your first paragraph there, I'm hoping you meant that you switched to Team Agricola! But no hard feelings either way. I like where your head's at re: polyominoes and themes! - Carlo
TEAM AGRICOLA! .....and the reason? I just love how punishing this game is. You have to build your engine while thinking about how you can feed your family at the end of the harvest season and have at least one of everything. And like what Carlos' said, you have to think if you should take the resources now before it's gets better for your opponent next round. I'm also curious to know for Carlos - agricola or caverna? Sorry Dylann! But congrats on 10K subs!
Glad to hear you appreciate those crucial timing elements in Agricola too! I haven't played Caverna yet so I can't compare the two yet, but hopefully one day soon! - Carlo
TEAM FEAST! I've played both of these games on BGA. I like how Agricola in some ways is very simple, and I like building the farm a lot, but when comparing cards to polyominos, I like the polyominos (and AFfO's massive amount of actions!) more. I want to try Uwe Rosenberg's other worker placement "Harvest" games too to compare them! Plus, Nusfjord and Hallertau look pretty...
In my opinion, AFfO is representative of the "modern day euro", with its focus on letting all players always do what they want, with little conflict or worry. A crowd pleaser for the masses that have joined the hobby in the last 5 years or so. But to me, that barely even qualifies as a game. More like a shared experience. Does winning or losing even matter if there was no competition? Agricola is on the opposite end of that spectrum. It represents what it truly means to be a good game. Players groan at moves you make. They have to rework their failed strategies. Wins feel earned and fought for. I'm happy that Uwe produced Nusfjord to bring back this tradition of design. It packs a lot of the same punch into a shorter, easier game. Of course, anyone that complains about (or enjoys!) how punishing Agricola is should have to play the game that inspired it: Antiquity, by Splotter. Not only is that game a marvel, but it is also one in which every player at the table can lose. And no, it isn't cooperative.
It may be by default, but Team Agricola here! Love that game, it was one of my first ever games that got me into the hobby and remains an absolute favourite. Feast has been on the wishlist for a while though, so hoping to get to try it soon!
A lot of people who play Agricola early in their gaming days seem to really enjoy it. I feel like once it sinks its hooks into you, it's tough for other games to live up to that level of depth. - Carlo
Team feast! I didn’t think to compare these two. I always thought Agricola vs caverna was the rivalry. But this was a great comparison and video! Keep up the great work!
Thanks, Michael! If we had played Caverna we probably would've done that instead, but it just so happens that these are each of our favourite Uwe Rosenberg games, at least for now. Since we filmed this video, I bought Le Havre but we still need to play it. - Carlo
Ive never played either of them so I can't say fairly which one I love more. Feast seems more interesting to me just from how you both describe them. Hopefully I win and get to try one out 😄
I think I'll go for Agricola for the cards impact on your game, the price and the competition on the placements. Then, I'll go for Feast, when I'll have enought to buy it.
The puzzle Tetris aspect of Feast for Odin is very engaging, especially trying to acquire the bonus resource items as you are doing it. In addition, going for even more territory like acquiring islands and buildings makes it even more exciting. The Board Game Arena version of Feast is extremely awesome and has a few quirks on the iPad (with rotating and placing) but it’s getting to be near perfection. If BGA gets the expansion for Feast, this will be a powerhouse beast of a game, and will definitely be my most played. The bonus cards on Feast (to me) are not as exciting as Agricola and most of the time I ignore them cause they are not worth the effort, but I guess using them would add direction and goals for increasing victory points. Agricola is fun because of the cards, but the gameplay is definitely more stressful than Feast for Odin as there are so many other choices in Odin that if someone takes your spot, you still can maneuver your way around it. The feeding aspect on Agricola is extremely limiting and punishing for other goals you wanna do, but on Odin it’s not as bad as you can accomplish it quickly and concentrate on other things. I like the productivity of my cows and sheep on Odin too rather than just a source for food on Agricola. I guess you can you can utilize animal productivity besides meat in Agricola, but I remember it as being too much work, needing the right cards, and being too late in the game as an engine to provide any benefit. The “-1s” on the Odin player mats look scary, but as you get near the end they fill up quickly somehow. For me, I like the Agricola variability of the cards and the iOS app, but for replay-ability, I have to side with Feast for Odin as you can take different paths to victory and feeling satisfied at the end, even if I lose.
Both games are really well done on BGA and we're lucky to be able to play these games over and over on there for free. I think I agree with almost everything you said about both games here, and I'm really hoping the Norwegians expansion makes it to BGA too. - Carlo
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I haven't played either but I've looked at Feast for Odin before. And after watching this I think I am TEAM FEAST.
But I would like to play both at some point.
Chloe! Congratulations, your comment was randomly selected as the winner of the giveaway! If you can reply to this comment as receipt that you've seen that you've won and then also email us at allyoucanboard@gmail.com, we can work on getting the prize sent to you! Congrats again, thanks for watching and, of course, thanks for choosing the CORRECT side. Team Feast. ;) - Dylann
Thank you so much.
@@chloebackshall4588 Congratulations!!!
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💥10K SUBS GIVEWAWAY💥
Reply to this video by taking a side, either TEAM FEAST or TEAM AGRICOLA. This automatically enters you in the giveaway. On March 7, we'll reply to the comment of the winner who is randomly selected, so make sure to check back to see if you were picked! The winner will receive either A Feast for Odin or Agricola (their choice) sent to their address! If you own both already, you can choose another Uwe Rosenberg game of your choice (as long as it's readily available and we can buy it for you!)
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TEAM FEAST!! although the setup is a beast, I find it more relaxing and less restrictive
Great video. I would say .. if you are gonna spend a whole hour comparing these two games (they absolutely deserve it!) .. but at that point I do think it’s fair to include the expansions in the discussion of which is ultimately the better game. Sounds like y’all haven’t played with Norwegians much but for me this is what places Feast as the clear number one. Team FEAST! That said when I think about which game I could play forever it might be Agricola as I think at a certain point Feast becomes more clear on what strategies are most viable (not there yet but I suspect this could be more possible since the cards are so much less relevant to the broader strategy). Thanks for the vid!
We haven't played any expansions for either game actually! Aside from some additional card decks for Agricola. But Dylann recently got The Norwegians finally, so we'll try it out soon. Sounds like your assessment of your short-term vs long-term enjoyment of both games could mirror exactly how I feel, it just so happens I've played Agricola over 150 times now and I've played Feast around 20 or 25 times. I've lost the urge to play Feast a bit (hopefully The Norwegians changes that) but I still absolutely love Agricola with every play. Thanks for watching!
- Carlo
Great 10k special! Enjoyed hearing both of your thoughts and you're quickly becoming my favorite board game channel. Also Team Feast.
That's some high praise, thank you very much!
I play games mainly at 2P with my wife and we are definitely TEAM AGRICOLA. Love how tight the game is, where every single decision is not only impactful, but also cascades down to future actions. There is a certain amount of meanness to it that I really enjoy too. If we wanted to play a Uwe tile laying game, we'd go with Patchwork or New York Zoo instead!
Yup, that cascade effect is definitely more present in Agricola than A Feast for Odin. As for polyomino tile-laying, if you like Patchwork and New York Zoo I'd recommend Spring Meadow! Of all his lighter polyomino games, Patchwork and Spring Meadow are the two I enjoy most. - Carlo
What an epic 10k special. You guys never disappoint. TEAM AGRICOLA ALL DAY
You two continue to make me smile. I have no personal experience with either game, but I happened to recently watch Amy and Maggie's video on AFFO and it was very compelling! Some of your arguments here, including your own concessions Carlo, have tipped me to team Feast
Amy and Maggie are wonderful, and A Feast for Odin is a great game! I'd be curious to hear what you think once you've played them both if you get around to it. Let us know in the Discord if you do!
@@AllYouCanBoard I will. I'm Lyrai there, if you couldn't tell
I know I passed the give away day, but I just wanted to say Team Feast of Odin! Mind you, I haven’t played either game but FoO seems really cool, and it is on my next by list!
A Feast for Odin can’t be beat. Best game ever, particularly for solo.
You love to hear it.
TEAM FEAST! Always look forward to y'all's videos. Keep up the awesome work you two.
Silver AND beans!!! 😂 What a wonderful comparison & super fun video... thank you so much for having us take part. "you might not enjoy Agricola more after 10 or even 20 games" 😏 team feast forever !!!!!! 💕
Thank you so much for taking the time to put together such a great little video clip! Even though I'm a LITTLE sad you chose Team Feast, I can absolutely respect it, and I'll hold out hope that maybe one day Agricola will overtake A Feast For Odin for you once you get above 20 plays, hehe... and if not, your #1 game of all-time is still amazing. Hope to play either game with you both some day! - Carlo
Silver and beans, silver and beans, I'm a little lad who loves silver and beeeeeeeeans. 🎵
Team Agricola! But the correct answer is actually Fields of Arle
Interesting pick! We really need to play that one, I've been trying to buy it for a while. - Carlo
Dude I just played Feast a few days ago and it became my favorite game ever. It was my first heavy game or score above 3 in complexity on BGG. It was my first big Uwe game. I loved the possibilities and choices and im itching to go back and refine my strategy and explore. People don’t like dice but I even found the hunting thrilling lol
Woooo! You love to hear it.
You need to play more "heavy" games.
Team FEAST!! I love the Viking theme, and even though I've never played it I have been wanting to for years. I've watched and read many reviews and I know this game is for me. Hopefully I will take the plunge and buy it this year
Gotta go with Agricola. The tightness of the game coupled with the game changing cards is unmatched. Although there is certainly room for both on my shelf. Uwe is the man.
The tightness of Agricola is what makes it unpopular with my some of my more casual peeps (including my girlfriend) so Feast for Odin sees table time, while Agricola just kinda collects dust because people are afraid of having a bad time.
Agricola, despite the inviting theme is very deceiving. People often think "oh I can manage my own farm and grow animals and stuff!" -> No, as a beginner you're constantly on the verge of starving and by the end of the game MAYBE you'll have something that resembles a farm but just when you start feeling good about yourself, the game ends.
So to me Agricola is much more of a "Gamer's Game" (especially with the card drafting, which is really the way to play but everyone NEEDS to know how to play the game well) while Feast of Odin, despite the complexity, you can absolutely this game inflict even on new players. And even if comparatively they might be doing horribly, that will mostly be reflected by a lower score at the end but even the last player will have filled up most of their homeboard and an island and generally have accomplished some stuff and feel okay about themselves. Meanwhile in Agricola, a first time player who did badly might be lucky to not be in the negative scores.
My wife and I both really enjoy playing Agricola. Neither of us have ever played A Feast for Odin but I am interested in playing it. I like the tension and suspense in Agricola.
TEAM FEAST....I've played Feast of Odin many times and absolutely love the game. Haven't played Argicola yet. Would love to add both games to our family's collection of board games. Keep up the great content and congratulations on 10k!!!
Team Agricola! I love how every action you take in the game is basically crucial to the final result. The theme is perfectly combined with the tension of making your farmers eat during the ending of the plague. The game is incredibly variable due to the cards you will draft at the start of the game, therefore the long-term strategy will always be different in every game. I never played AFfO because I was always afraid of the big box...but I would love to try it! Love from Rome! 🇮🇹
If you've played Agricola, you have nothing to be scared of in A Feast for Odin. It's a more complicated game, but it's not more complex, if you know what I mean. There are more things to learn, but it's easier to play and make decisions throughout the game. But I totally agree with your comments on Agricola, especially the importance of each action and also the cards. - Carlo
Team Feast! I’ve had it on my wishlist for a while. It looks amazing and I love the theme.
TEAM FEAST! I haven’t played either yet and I think I’d love both, but I think I’d pick Feast for Odin to try/buy first. Love the video! Thanks!
TEAM AGRICOLA it was my first "modern boardgame" and I dont own Feast, and I am werry excited to try that out. I enjoy your channel and you guys aproch and attitude werry much, keep up the good work :-)
Thanks for the kind words, Peter!
I just bought AFFO... in French... the new edition by Super Meeple (nothing changed)... that was 130 before tax...
TEAM FEAST the theme and mechanics are both interesting, and the puzzle of how to arrange the polyominoes is fun every round.
TEAM FEAST all about that tile placement, seems like a best-of of Uwe's mechanics in a box
Such a fun video! I have yet to play either, but looking forward to trying them both. I feel like given descriptions on gameplay, I will probably be TEAM AGRICOLA!
Team Feast! It's a joy everytime, and seeing it setup always makes me excited to play again; Although I think I agree with Carlo's point at the end, with enough plays and more familiarity with Agricola I could see myself changing teams. Great video, fun to see two of Uwe's best games compared like this!
I think you're the first person in the comments on Team Feast who said that (about maybe changing teams one day), so thanks for that! Both games are amazing though. - Carlo
Great job pulling in videos from other you-tubers!
TEAM FEAST
The thing is... I don't own any of this game, nor have I played them. However, the name I hear once and again since I stumble into the hobby three years ago is A Feast for Odin. So many people have talked about how interesting and fun it is to play it that I just keep thinking about giving it a go. I thing however in this debate the thing that made me take this side is the idea of showing it to people. Because I like to play a lot with different persons, often times my favorite part is watching the spark in their eyes the moment they get a game and are 200% into it. I believe Feast might be one of those games.
For sure, a lot of people fall in love with A Feast for Odin when they first play it, and I did too. I just don't think it gets better with each play in the same way Agricola does, but it's still a really good game.
I haven’t played either game but to me Agricola seems more like something I would love to play!
You guys are one of my go to for game info. Congrats on the 10K. Big milestone.
#team Feast
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Thanks for the contest gents - both games are in my collection and both deserve to be there!
Team Feast! Love the theme and gameplay! definitely on my wish list :) Congrats on 10k!
Definitely TEAM FEAST. So many options, so much fun.
I haven’t played either yet but Dylann has convinced me, Team Feast!!!
TEAM AGRICOLA!... mainly because I haven't played Feast for Odin. Definitely want to try after hearing it talked up so much by you guys!
TEAM AGRICOLA! Thank you for doing this.
Let's see, be a raiding, pillaging Viking, or a, struggle to feed your family farmer. TEAM FEAST, of course! Feast has so much to offer in a game; so many options. Agricola is a very fine game, but I prefer less cutthroat games. I'd never turn down an Uwe game though. He's a master of board game creation. Dylann, you hit the nail on the head. Feeding your Vikings is not as worrisome as feeding your family. The polyomino field below the Viking dining room allows you to plan ahead. It's actually one of the first things I do each round to assure it won't be a concern. Struggling to feed someone really stresses me out. There is additional material included in Feast, that details different aspects of Viking life which really enriches gameplay. Loved your debate. Very fun to watch!!!
Thanks Heidi! The theme of A Feast for Odin is definitely more intriguing, and you're right that feeding your family isn't as stressful in AFFO. There's just something about the way that Agricola all comes together, it just feels so satisfying and addictive. While I still love AFFO, I don't get that same pull to want to go back and play immediately. They're both still amazing games though. Thanks again for the kind words and all your support recently! - Carlo
TEAM FEAST
So glad you all did this video. Just discovered your channel and have been binge watching your videos and I am loving you content! I am newer to the hobby and am wanting to get my 1st uwe rosenburg big box game. I have some of his smaller games like cottage garden and really enjoy it. But wanting something heavier.
A feast is much more appealing to me than agricola and seems more unique.
I would love for you guys to do a compare video of all of the uwe big box games to help someone new to the hobby understand the differences and which one might be best fit to add to their collection. Im overwhelmed by his games and dont know where to start and what the differences are. So it would be nice from “Uwe experts” like yall.
Thank you so much, Rebecca! We really appreciate the kind words and we're glad to hear you're enjoying the channel!
We haven't played some of the big Uwe games yet like Le Havre, Caverna, Fields of Arle, and Ora et Labora, but I think once we've played those we'll be ready to do a video covering all of his bigger games. I just got Le Havre recently so we're one step closer! Believe me, it's one of our board gaming goals, to try all the Uwe games asap, so we hope to accomplish that soon but we'll see. - Carlo
Great video. Made me laugh a lot in many occasions. Thanks for that! Pains me to choose, but I have to go with team Feast!
Ola! Great content, please keep it up. I haven't played any yet but my instinct would take me to be on TEAM FEAST, because of the open possibilities and different strategies.
Haven't played either yet but just got a copy of Agricola! Excited to try it out :)
Awesome, I hope you like it as much as I do! - Carlo
Haven’t played Feast for Odin yet so i guess team Agricola. Wanting to try it one day! Keep up the great work fellas!
As someone super new to the hobby(also someone who hasn’t played either) I think I have to say team feast.. it just looks more appealing. Really enjoy your positive videos, super refreshing!
Thanks for the kind words!
I have not played either yet. Although I’m interested in playing both, I am most interested in playing and buying AFFO. Team Feast!Everything Dylan said really resonated with me. Congrats on 10k milestone!
Woow!!! You both pulled out the friends for support hahahha. Hysterical! Great video guys
Haha, we had no choice! And thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Team Feast! Love the open-world experience, just so much to discover in this game.
Really want to play both after watching you guys talk so much about them across videos! I'm team Agricola since it seems more my speed however :D
Happy to hear you're on Team Agricola but definitely still check out A Feast for Odin if you can! Both games are amazing. - Carlo
TEAM FEAST! The choices are so plentiful and crunchy! And the polyomino part of it satisfies such an itch!
My brother introduced me to hobby board games and constantly wanted to play Agricola, I never won!
Thanks for all your great content and congrats on 10k!
Me over here yelling “Caverna is the real winner!” 🤣👏🏻 just kidding, I haven’t actually ever played either Agricola or A Feast For Odin. I have heard Agricola and Caverna are similar so I will have to go Team Agricola! Would love a chance to play them both eventually! Great video guys and congrats on 10K subscribers! 👏🏻
Thanks, Jenna! Haha, we really need to try Caverna still! Who knows - maybe it'll move way up the list for us one day.
Absolutely TEAM FEAST!! One of the best games! Great video comparing the two! Cheers!
Team Feast, but I enjoy both for different reasons. As Carlo said, Agricola feels more about mastering the game, having a predictably randomized gameplay loop. A Feast for Odin is more about exploring a shifting puzzle from different angles.
The cards in Agricola ask you to see a path from the start of the game, in Feast they simply offer you a place to start.
A Feast for Odin wins for me because it gives me - the person knowing and explaining the game - a chance to have a fun game exploring a weird angle, while new players enjoy themselves and have an actual chance to win. In Agricola, somebody who knows the game will either crush new players or has to play inefficient, and both aren't fun. It's a great game, but it requires players of similar skill.
I agree 100% with your comment, except for the fact that I'm on Team Agricola obviously. But you're absolutely right - if I was showing either game to a group of new players, I'd probably have more fun toying around with the system in Feast as well compared to possibly destroying new players in Agricola. Thanks for the super thoughtful comment. - Carlo
Excellent video, I was very pleased to see the comparison...as I have played neither. Even though Agricola my have a less appealing theme, I like the "take that" element in games in general...where you can do some strategic blocking, etc...I think that element is definitely a product of the games age. In our current world of participation trophies (where competitiveness and winning is "not fair for everyone")...I like that. I like to be rewarded for my creative thinking and planning in general. Also, just wanted to know what is hard to understand about a silver buying you a meal?...most people do this every week! The only thing missing, is touching on how both games solo (if at all).
Team Agricola. Love the sheer amount of variety from the cards. "fast" setup when compared to Feast for odin. Prefer feast for odin at 2, Will play agricola at much wider player count.
Big fan of Agricola! Haven't played Feast but would really like to give it a go. Came here to hear more about Feast actually, so thanks for this! So, Team Agricola, I guess...?
Although Carlo's arguments are way better, as usual. I'm Team Feast on this one, love Dyllan's enthusiasm.
Hope you will do more of these vids, nice twist.
Hey Kim, glad to hear you enjoyed the video but I'm not sure it's fair to say my arguments are way better. Dylann made some great points about A Feast for Odin here, and I think we have some pretty balanced discussions overall in our videos. I realize you probably meant it more as a compliment to me than an insult to Dylann, so it's all good, clearly no ill will, I just wouldn't want anyone who sees this to get the wrong impression if they haven't watched many of our other videos.
Either way, thanks for watching and leaving a comment! We'll definitely do more videos comparing games going forward. - Carlo
#teamfeast. Agricola is clearly legendary, and challenging, and intricately put together, but Feast is so much more engaging and thematic and fun. Congrats on the milestone guys.
TEAM AGRICOLA! I love the farming style which reminds me of the video game, Harvest Moon. I also enjoy being able to change up the resource choices for every play 🐮🚜
Own both, love both. Only one is my all-time favourite, and that's Agricola! The ideal amount of interaction, pressure and variety. Still thrilling, a hundred plays on. Don't worry Dylann - A Feast for Odin is my favourite solo design! But with other players involved, I'm #teamagricola all the way.
I actually think I'd like A Feast for Odin most as a solo game too, I've only played it 2-4 so far.
Oh, and #teamagricola for life!
- Carlo
I have been torn between these two since I started watching your videos! You both have such good points that it's still a really tough decision because I haven't played either yet but I think my final vote is team FEAST. Thanks for the great debate!
I’m just learning Agricola now, so for the time being I guess I’m TEAM AGRICOLA but would love to try Feast.
Great video - I confess to being Team Agricola. Had this for a long time - first learned how to play worker placement on my own (self taught) with Agricola Family Edition so the whole series has a special place in my collection. I have also purchased A Feast For Odin, and am starting to get into this, but I still find it hard marrying up why a polyomino tile of a rock on an island means you don't lose points from a thematic point of view! The amazing wealth of extra cards that have come out for Agricola Revised Edition over the years has also helped replayability - maybe more will come out for AFFO in time as well (although there are a large number in the base game! Shame the money in AFFO is quite small and hard to pick up at times in order to place on your island/dining table ;-)
Good point about the money being so small! I've been playing on BGA recently so that hasn't been an issue. And glad to hear you agree about the theme. :) Still an amazing game though, of course. - Carlo
Both great games. I prefer Feast but you can't go wrong with Agricola. So Team FEAST. Keep up the great content fellas.
I like both, Agricola has like you pointed out more competition between players. You can block and have to block other players. Odin I feel you more play your own game and not against each other. Agricola is a bit lighter allowing you to also socialize a bit more during the game, While Odin has so many options you are deep in your game that you are not chatting as much with your friends.
Now, Caverna will bring team Odin and team Agrigola together. It is a great alternative that combines elements from both.
Team Feast! Clever, thoughtful but still fun and actually quite easy to learn - after a few turns!
Great video guys, haven't played neither yet but from what I've seen I believe I'm team Feast!
Congrats on 10k!! Unfortunately, I've only played Agricola so I can't vote fairly, but I will say I enjoyed the game. Feast for Odin is on my wishlist, though! Great video guys, loved the thematic intro and Carlo not being sure if he was gonna go back in time or jump 8 months into the future 😅🤣
Haha yeah, I'm not sure what happened in my brain there with the dates, definitely short circuited!
Wha... What about Caverna?
Team Agricola because it is what got me interested in Uwe's games!
We just haven't tried Caverna yet! But as soon as we do, we'll try to feature it on the channel.
Team Agricola! I haven’t played either yet but I recently got Agricola and looking forward to playing it!
I think this is one of my favorite videos you’ve done. Thank you for this!!!
Having not played either, and solely based on the video (and having played other Uwe games including Caverna, Hallertau, and Patchwork), I think Agricola will be the first of the two I will purchase (probably tomorrow).
#teamagricola
#lovethisdebate
#opentobeprovenwrong
Wow, thanks! We were definitely passionate about this topics, that's for sure. I know you've played Agricola since you left this comment (sorry we're so late going back through hundreds of these comments) and I'm happy to hear you're on the right team, even if A Feast for Odin is also an amazing game. - Carlo
I've played, have, and enjoy both. Prefer A Feast for Odin overall as I find there is more varied strategy you can employ. Carlo lost me at 26:09 when mentioning Terraforming Mars. If you are 2/3rds of the way through Terraforming Mars new cards should only be kept (as you have to pay to keep them) if they play heavily into your strategy and you can see them paying themselves off quickly.
I will add that the issue you have with nothing to do with cards that don't play into your strategy in AFFO is fixed by The Norwegians expansion. It adds the option to get rid of an occupation when you could otherwise play it to score bonus points. I'd say it resolves most issues I had with the base game and makes it a more streamlined experience. If you haven't played it yet I highly reccomend it, I don't play without it anymore.
There is no "heavy competition" for spaces in Agricola because you can't go after only one resource (unless you plan on losing). For example, a player blocked your sheep? Go for the pigs, and wait until the next round when the other player goes for the pigs, and you take the sheep.
I'm sure you understood the rules correctly, but it doesn't sound like you understood the strategy of the game. It would never really make sense to take 1 single sheep or boar in the round immediately after someone else took a pile of them. If someone goes to one of those spaces, then next round there's only one of that resource there, and if you're taking just 1 sheep or 1 boar with an action, that alone will probably set you far behind. I've never seen anyone do that and win.
And your point about there being no heavy competition doesn't make any sense. It has nothing to do with going for one single resource, I think you misunderstood what I said in the video.
Everyone needs REED to build rooms and renovate their house. Building rooms allows you to get more family members. So if you're not going for reed and you let your opponent keep getting it, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose unless you have an Occupation or Minor Improvement that helps you get reed in some other way. Similarly, if you're not racing for the first Family Growth spot to get more workers, you're probably not going to be in a competitive enough spot to have a chance of winning.
- Carlo
@@AllYouCanBoard - Thank you for proving my point, that if you don't get the cards, you lose.
I haven't played either yet but Feast looks more up my alley so gotta go TEAM FEAST.
Team Agricola for me! I’m still fairly new to the game, probably played 8 times, but really enjoying it, and honestly when I’ve looked at Feast for Odin it just seemed too complicated.
Team Feast!
Another thorough and entertaining video as always, thanks! BTW, I recently picked up Glass Road based on your recommendations, can't wait to try it out.
Awesome! Glass Road is amazing too, I actually like it more than A Feast for Odin. I hope you like it! - Carlo
Feast for Odin is my choice. Love the sandbox play and spatial puzzle.
Team Feast! Congratulations on your 10k subscribers and love your intro!
I'm like Carlo where most of my plays have been Agricola. But playing Agricola with my kids now has reminded me why I love it so #teamAgricola
Playing Agricola with your kids... oh man, that's the dream! - Carlo
I've not yet played either but so keen on both. I think Feast just slightly wins for me, as I prefer the theme plus I'm a big fan of polyomino games at the moment!
TEAM FEAST. Love the area on the board. How you get the items can at times feels a little stale but always love the puzzle of fitting the pieces together
Team Feast. The Viking theme is more appealing and I think it would be easier to persuade my family to play with me. Would be happy to try argricola too
Fun discussion! I haven't had the opportunity to play either, but I posted earlier that I was on team Feast based on what I knew.. but after watching your video I'm switching to TEAM FEAST. I like the idea that the decisions you make have consequences.. some might call it 'punishment', but to me it adds enjoyable weight to the decisions you make.
I also admit that adherence to theme is something that bothers me more than it should. I'd disagree that polyominos are inherently hard to incorporate into a them. You mentioned Patchwork.. but also Cottage Garden, Isle of Cats, Cartographers, etc are games the incorporate polyominoes well into the theme. I could imagine a version of feast where maybe polys placed on the island represented villages and roads, and maybe polys placed on a banquet table could be plates of food, etc.
Great work!
I'm not sure if you meant Agricola in one of those instances in your first paragraph there, I'm hoping you meant that you switched to Team Agricola! But no hard feelings either way. I like where your head's at re: polyominoes and themes! - Carlo
@@AllYouCanBoard Ha oops. My mistake.. yes, Team Agricola!
TEAM AGRICOLA! .....and the reason? I just love how punishing this game is. You have to build your engine while thinking about how you can feed your family at the end of the harvest season and have at least one of everything. And like what Carlos' said, you have to think if you should take the resources now before it's gets better for your opponent next round.
I'm also curious to know for Carlos - agricola or caverna?
Sorry Dylann! But congrats on 10K subs!
Glad to hear you appreciate those crucial timing elements in Agricola too! I haven't played Caverna yet so I can't compare the two yet, but hopefully one day soon! - Carlo
Team Feast !!! Snacks and Vikings how could you go wrong !
TEAM FEAST!
I've played both of these games on BGA. I like how Agricola in some ways is very simple, and I like building the farm a lot, but when comparing cards to polyominos, I like the polyominos (and AFfO's massive amount of actions!) more. I want to try Uwe Rosenberg's other worker placement "Harvest" games too to compare them! Plus, Nusfjord and Hallertau look pretty...
I totally understand, DeyDey! Of the other two Uwe games you mentioned, I would recommend Nusfjord first but Hallertau is really good too. - Carlo
Team Feast! I haven’t played either game but A Feast For Odin is on my list of games to buy.
Congrats on 10K! I’m totally Team Feast! Best of luck!
Haven’t played either but keen too
Definitely TEAM FEAST!
Keep up the great content guys :)
The intro was awesome Dylann!
In my opinion, AFfO is representative of the "modern day euro", with its focus on letting all players always do what they want, with little conflict or worry. A crowd pleaser for the masses that have joined the hobby in the last 5 years or so. But to me, that barely even qualifies as a game. More like a shared experience. Does winning or losing even matter if there was no competition?
Agricola is on the opposite end of that spectrum. It represents what it truly means to be a good game. Players groan at moves you make. They have to rework their failed strategies. Wins feel earned and fought for. I'm happy that Uwe produced Nusfjord to bring back this tradition of design. It packs a lot of the same punch into a shorter, easier game.
Of course, anyone that complains about (or enjoys!) how punishing Agricola is should have to play the game that inspired it: Antiquity, by Splotter. Not only is that game a marvel, but it is also one in which every player at the table can lose. And no, it isn't cooperative.
I've heard of Antiquity but had no idea it inspired Agricola, that's interesting. And yes, I agree about Nusfjord, fantastic game.
- Carlo
Team Feast here, but both games are fun (which is the point, of course!) 🍺
It may be by default, but Team Agricola here! Love that game, it was one of my first ever games that got me into the hobby and remains an absolute favourite. Feast has been on the wishlist for a while though, so hoping to get to try it soon!
A lot of people who play Agricola early in their gaming days seem to really enjoy it. I feel like once it sinks its hooks into you, it's tough for other games to live up to that level of depth. - Carlo
Team feast! I didn’t think to compare these two. I always thought Agricola vs caverna was the rivalry. But this was a great comparison and video! Keep up the great work!
Thanks, Michael! If we had played Caverna we probably would've done that instead, but it just so happens that these are each of our favourite Uwe Rosenberg games, at least for now. Since we filmed this video, I bought Le Havre but we still need to play it. - Carlo
Team Agricola here. Liking the mixture of in depth discussion and chirping each other. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, Robbie! Happy to have you on Team Agricola, and glad you enjoy the chirping, that part comes pretty naturally between us, haha. - Carlo
Team Agricola! Purely for the nostalgia of it being the very first heavier board game I was introduced to by friends. Very good memories 🌾🐑
Ive never played either of them so I can't say fairly which one I love more. Feast seems more interesting to me just from how you both describe them. Hopefully I win and get to try one out 😄
I think I'll go for Agricola for the cards impact on your game, the price and the competition on the placements. Then, I'll go for Feast, when I'll have enought to buy it.
The puzzle Tetris aspect of Feast for Odin is very engaging, especially trying to acquire the bonus resource items as you are doing it. In addition, going for even more territory like acquiring islands and buildings makes it even more exciting. The Board Game Arena version of Feast is extremely awesome and has a few quirks on the iPad (with rotating and placing) but it’s getting to be near perfection. If BGA gets the expansion for Feast, this will be a powerhouse beast of a game, and will definitely be my most played. The bonus cards on Feast (to me) are not as exciting as Agricola and most of the time I ignore them cause they are not worth the effort, but I guess using them would add direction and goals for increasing victory points.
Agricola is fun because of the cards, but the gameplay is definitely more stressful than Feast for Odin as there are so many other choices in Odin that if someone takes your spot, you still can maneuver your way around it. The feeding aspect on Agricola is extremely limiting and punishing for other goals you wanna do, but on Odin it’s not as bad as you can accomplish it quickly and concentrate on other things. I like the productivity of my cows and sheep on Odin too rather than just a source for food on Agricola. I guess you can you can utilize animal productivity besides meat in Agricola, but I remember it as being too much work, needing the right cards, and being too late in the game as an engine to provide any benefit. The “-1s” on the Odin player mats look scary, but as you get near the end they fill up quickly somehow. For me, I like the Agricola variability of the cards and the iOS app, but for replay-ability, I have to side with Feast for Odin as you can take different paths to victory and feeling satisfied at the end, even if I lose.
Both games are really well done on BGA and we're lucky to be able to play these games over and over on there for free. I think I agree with almost everything you said about both games here, and I'm really hoping the Norwegians expansion makes it to BGA too. - Carlo
TEAM FEAST....based entirely on the fact that I played agricola and didn't enjoy it, but would love to try Feast for Odin