DID BIG L SET MA$E UP? | S4 EP48 SHORT CLIP
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The fact that all this talent came from a group of friends is INSANE
Childhood friends at that. Biggie and Jay-Z also went to the same High School
Facts McGruff was 1 one of my early top 5
The list is endless
The universe lined everything up to turn out exactly how it all did. It was written before any of us was even born. 💯
Jay and Biggie didn't really click until they were in the game. Jay was older than him. Jaz and Jay is a better reference.
I see why Murda don’t f with nobody
And news flash, that’s just 1 story and that don’t just happen to famous 🥷’s nihs all over the world gotta go thru this in the ghetto but sun don’t live to tell it or make it big enough for it to be heard shi cold out here
I don't either. You learn (if you live long enough) to just cut down your circle. The cats closest to you be the ones. I got a ton of stories from them same blocks and don't nobody know me except for "the dude with the backpack and locs always smoking Djarums going up and down 5th, Lenox, and 7th" lmao
@@TheEsquireOfSportsstop yo cappin 😅😅😅😅!
@@gregsmith1342 lying about being a nobody...?
Are you missing chromosomes or something?
Same, set up by Big L, abandoned in LA by Puffy. It's a dirty game.
One of the best parts about this besides listening to Mase tell the story is that you can see that Cam is genuinely excited about talking about this stuff. Really enjoy listening to them talk about the old days.
Facts😂😂😂
Facts!! Real friends
Facts 😂
😅😅😅😂
Cause this gonna bring the bag everyone been waiting to hear mase side on a lot of situations
Cam want everybody to know how Dope Ma$e was and Mas$e dont give af 😂
Real friend!
Right
I actually think stories like this is why cam thought mase was soft and why he could go at him for like 20 years. Cause he know the skeletons.
Ma$e is truly in a free space right now. He could care less what anyone thinks of him. Cam never thought Mase was soft. It was that Cam was mad that Mase let a nigga like Puffy take control of his image. That's why Cam never fucked with Bad Boy
@@petej7002 cam got way more skeletons tho. tru life used to terrorize cam and dipset. he was robbing those guys every other week. wearing their chains in videos. can't forget about cam and jimmy being chased at the rucker either
Cam really love and missed Mase. You can see it in face when they go dish memory lane .
Who else picturing this story as he tell it creating ya own image of the characters lol 😂
The robbery video is on youtube
😂😂 I cried laughing 😂 mase you play too much
Lmao
I was doing the eyes 😂 pause
Nigga transported me to 90s Harlem and I’m from 🇬🇧 😭 great storyteller
“We caught” nah “ you caught”😂
😂😂
Best part of IIWII is when ya tell ya old Harlem stories
Absolutely
They should have an entire episode just doing that. I get it’s a sports show but that’s when they’re at their best
@@Christian-eq6pq exactly...
Yes but they should be careful
Cam be like, for those that don’t know, Rollie means Rolex 😂 for those that don’t know
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bro.... OMM! He said "for those that don't know.. when he said he went from 39th to 40th, he's saying he left 139th St and went to 140th" 😂😂😂
@@BRJrTheActor you'd be surprised who didn't understand, they have a new fanbase
WORD😂
Big L was exactly who he said he was and went out that way. He was easily the best out of Harlem with the most potential. And Cam and Mase got every right to feel how they feel about ol boy. They alive, he’s not. He would’ve easily fit right in on the desk 25 years later, but he was street struck.
💯 sad truth
He’d be on the desk if he took his own advice
This story breaks my heart, Big L one of my fav rappers. He was on that bullsh-- though, and that's what ultimately got him killed. Sad, nobody's perfect, he was a one of a kind talent, no one like him. RIP!
This confirm why Big L got laided down. Great Rapper but Big L was doing grimey shit. And tried it with the wrong on who was also his friend that he grew up with.
@@knatte11212”One day we stuck a dice game on the Ave/ and split the cash / Then I murdered his ass/ and took his half/ cause I’m all about ins and skins/ when you got those you don’t need no muthafuckin friends”
And his brother big lee got killed also doing the same shit
Bro a lot of NY biggest rapper/hustlers would rob back in the day. It’s a NY thing
@@frogthegodsetting up dudes you grew up with is beyond grimey
Mase was the brokest from around the way , turned around and became the richest young …. So the hate came with it from his own hood
Facts he was really struggling he was wearing cam and cudda clothes he said it in his book so when he popped off and blew big L couldn’t stomach it cause he had the deal first
This is true. We had no idea who he was or that he even existed in our space until Puff put him on.
You ain’t never lie FAM. BTW if you get locked up for some grimy ish you better believe we will find you. Especially being from Harlem, The Heights and Inwood.
@@TheBulletzgottishow20But naw L show love picking Mase up in his cars in all and when Mase got on he wasn't showing it back Jim Jones said it
Everyone loved MASE HARLEM, don't hate we congratulate .
Someone needs to make a cartoon re-enactment of this story asap 😂
Damn right
They need to do cartoon reenactments of all their stories honestly lol
I’ll take this project on. I already begun working on some drafts and sketches
That will honestly be something positive out of a negative and be very legendary 😂
😂😂 facts
lol now Fat Joe gotta come on the show 😂
Fat Joe told the story on his show already
Word 😂
Werd we need Joe
hes gonna come eventually they all know each other anyways! from way back. Easy
Story is on youtube
And i salute these dudes because they were modest and quiet about Big L decades after he died. They respected L but thats it. No need to be fake and political about it. If he was a snake...then he was a snake.
Shout out to KILLA AND MA$E
I mean L rapped about how he would rob anyone lol
Exactly
Man it’s all about what angle you look at it from. L was probably looking at Mase as being a disrespectful snake for getting popular and not putting him on..
@@chrisconnors9449life is perspective
@@chrisconnors9449aint no angles lol
For y'all youngins who wasn't there. Mase buzz and brand was crazy hot 96-99' 🔥
This is dope...I'm glad Murda still here to talk about it...R.I.P Big L Crazy
Don't forget Big Lee HUD 6 and Kay slay 😇😇😇🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️
@@milesdiontreRIP PARTY ARTY
“He don’t have me right now” is the funniest shit I’ve heard in years.
Damn. After hearing this mase makes a lot more sense. think about his story that we know so far. That man faced a lot of betrayal
💯💯💯
He also the reason pop lotti died according to Cam multiple times.
Mase been a real one. 🤫
What does that even mean?
@@pistolpete8231If you know, you know!
He literally just said he thought about leaving his man for dead and running because he didn’t wanna give up his 1st Rolly and you just typed a comment saying Mase been a real one. Who raised you?
Mase phony af
😂😂😂hard for me to believe. I’ve seen Big L and Cam on their block many times as a kid. I saw Mase only at Rucker and that was with Diddy and bodyguards. Like the comment prior said, define “real one”.
Mase is a great story teller, hope he shares more.
Cam was the interpreter for us civilians lol
True Indeed 😂💯
It’s a book called Ethylene: The Rise And Fall Of The 139TH ST NFL Crew that goes in depth about all of this. It was a lot of treachery surrounding Big L (R.I.P), his brother Big Lee (R.I.P) and the whole 139TH ST crew. The guy that killed Big L, Big L tried to set him up to get killed prior to Big L losing his life. It was so much going on in Harlem during those days.
Allegedly one of the Junior Mafia members got robbed for Big’s (R.I.P) chain by one of Big L’s (R.I.P) crew members. When Big tried to get the chain back he was told the only way to get it back was to “take it in blood”. The chain that was taken is allegedly the chain that Big L has on for his album the Big Picture.
The guy that took the chain was from L block. He let L borrow the chain one night then he was shot n killed afterwards
@@nowbornspiral lol naw that album cover was made AFTER Big L died
We were told to stay away from "Crime Square" back when we were teenagers. My aunt worked in the State Office Building on 2-5th, and we would wander over there (Jimbo's had the best burgers and it was on that block) from time to time. One of the chicks who I knew way back moved to 141st mid-block between Lenox and 7th... she was gone from there in NO TIME. Cats just grimy all around over on that side back then.
@@cloudclub5326the pic was taken in 97
We need a book from Mase. He has some good hip hop stories. An audio book in Mase’s voice would be so dope.
He has a book out. It's on Amazon.
@@jaycwill4006wats it called
@@jaycwill4006is that the book that jim jones got mad about in that hot 97 interview?
@@gloriempaka9474yes and this story in this video is in his book but he don’t mention Big L out of respect
L was setting dudes up for Lee. That’s how he got popped. Then dude got popped when he came home years later.
Oh he was legitimately setting fools up and putting them in crosses? Lee a shit caller?
It puts things into perspective. I’ll say this him even setting Ma$e up makes him seem like a grimey ass dude and makes me look at his death different. Kind of seems like it was karma or get back and not just a fucked situation that ended up in a legend dying
That's what I was thinking, I'm like Damn So L was really setting Niggas up.
@@MarvelousJP - yeah I use to think he got screwed over and maybe even by Jayz but now hearing to real, dude was dirtball
Yea unfortunately that's what I heard too
Mase definitely the big bro. Love him and cam’s relationship
“Grew up with Big L and the dude who supposedly killed him, A week before that, though, Big L had tried to kill him What was he to do ? Please don’t get in ya feelings. When the time’s right, I will tell you about these villains. Now everybody dead, so it ain’t about squealing.”
“Love my hood but to make it out ? whoa what a feeling”.
Big L is definitely the best in Harlem, Cam is crazy putting juelz above him!! , and this story answers a lot of questions. I always wondered why Cam or Mase never put Big L on once they blew up, now we know why.
Big L was nice to me but he recycled alot and I like his freestyle better than his songs
Yeah Big L had the most talent, but I don't think that he would've made the best songs. Some cats that can spit can't make radio songs. Plenty of niggas can rap better than 50 but couldn't make radio hits like him.
Nikka big L and his brother got clapped for being grimey you not from Harlem lol everyone knows why nobody defended Big L when he got shot in his face 9 times
@@fabolousjada5070watch how you speak on OG name skud
Big l was a super shady dude, him and his brother
He always told us 139 was a grimmy place
The danger zone ofc, did you hear his bars?
He looks like it
He's looks like the type to set people up like he setups his punchlines in his songs lol FACTS
"Ninja was movin' slowly" lol
Cam did the best at keeping the story going usually you would want somebody to shut up when someone else is telling the story
Facts!
Yup, old stories for da youngins who have no clue or context of the times lol
Fat Joe was really in them streets😂
And be telling the truth
@@DNDKellinah he be lying😂😂😂
Shut up!
Until he ran into Boy George. 😂😂😂
Joe crack has motion b4 rap😂
funny thing is, he actually talks about this story in his book he wrote back in the day...but he didnt go in-depth about who really called the shot to rob him...he didnt out Big L in the book basically
Mase had that rollie Jay was like those ain't rolex diamonds what the f*@k you done to that😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆"Imaginary Players" from Streets is Watching sdtk📺📼
Yup Mase had Mart 125 diamonds in his Rolex 🤣🤣
The most jealous ones always come from your own block. Look what happened to Nip.
Ultimately, it’s that griminess that got L permanently deleted, imo. Can’t consistently do bad and think everything is sweet. A “brother” will never rob his family. L was a snake, not a brother.
That’s why everyone from Harlem always said Ma$e was the hardest (pause) lyrically 💯
Man what !!!! 😂😂😂
Murda been though a lot of shit in Harlem … from being a broke kid to the Flyest, Yung 🥷in the town give him his flowers
Big L said he was Grimey! His Brother Big Lee played no games either. RIP!
Damn L was really one of them grimey New York niggas lol smh … he’s one of my favorites tho his rapping skills is immaculate
This is why Mase felt a way when Jim Jones told him about dudes plotting on him. cam told that story on IG live a while back.
😂😂😂 More Mase stories please. At least once a week.
And yall wonder why Mase went to the ministry in Atlanta.
"we caught, nah you caught" 😆😆🤣
This story is wild but I know the public will appreciate the stories podcast era
Dem stick up kids in New York in the 70's 80's & 90's were something else lol
Facts
broad day no mask in denim shorts
Broad daylight buck fithy... seen it as far back as '88 with my own eyes.
@@TheEsquireOfSports I can verify, was there for the summer back in 86' saw a dude with shorts on, a trench coat and watched him pull a sawed off shogun out of his umbrella and started shooting 😂 wildest shit I had ever seen. Was like a damn movie, I was 11yrs old this happened in the south Bronx....
@@Forever.Remain.Nameless war zone, that borough back then. We weren't even allowed to cross the bridge without an older relative.
50 & Yayo .. Cam & Mase .. this is what friendship looks like! Salute to these gentlemen!🤙🏽
50 and Yayo is not friendship, atleast not from my perspective. They never have back and forth conversations like Cam and Mase. Its always Yayo glorifying 50 and 50 talking about Yayos loyalty. Loyalty should be a silent part of friendship, the foundation thats never seen but the people that built it understand the science behind it.
@@sebastienc.2257 you're young.. all 4 guys are child hood friends.. that was the point.. We call him 50 Yayo calls him "Boo Boo".. Cam calls Mase "Murda" Mase calls Cam "Flea" again.. that's what I mean by friends.. 🤙🏽
50 is a mixed bag when it comes to Yayo. Yayo was fucking up heavy in the beginning but 50 still kept him close. Then I see a video of 50 throwing Yayo in some bushes in front of a group of people lol
I don't know about that. Cam, Mase and Jimmy be friends one year and enemies the next. Mase diss song at Cam was hard and personal. I couldn't have a friend of mines diss me like that and then we become friends again. Them three got a weird ass friendship.
Don't confuse their public personas with how they are in real life. Real friends & family have falling outs & get back together.. the issue is everyone with an opinion. Their personal lives & relationships don't reflect the reality they feel these celebrities should have.. so when I hear "perspective" I tube out.. yikes!
Party Arty a battle rap legend. Fire shout out in that story (RIP).
139 and Lennox is the danger zone where no man can withstand to hold his own -Big L
Children of the corn is a classic. Love hearing these old stories from back in the day. Rip Big L and Bloodshed AKA Blood Dibiase. Salute to Cam and Mase.
Cam filling in the little details 😂🙏🏾
Story more solidified now
Especially the part where the watch was at the precinct for months cuz Mase wouldn’t give a statement then got it back cuz the case was over
@@kennycooper4038 facts I was thinking the same thing. You already know they would’ve tried to run with a story like he told.
"Dead rappers get better promotion" explains Big L perfectly.
Yessir
This story is wild. I see why Ma$e started moving the way he did.
What’s crazy, is that this answered my question on why “ya’ll never produced an bio pic about Big L” thanks for telling us you’re side of the story
💯
Facts 2Pac got like a hundred documentaries cuz he didn’t snake his crew
Meanwhile Big L crew stand offish with real subtle salutes 🫡
Cuz he snaked the crew
We need a whole biopic of C.O.C. and D.I.T.C., then maybe a little bit of dipset
Rich and Poe without the betrayal … y’all so smart keep going up killa n Murda 😂😂😂😂😂
Cam suit game is way up there. Him n Murda is hilarious
Had no idea big L was this type of guy
Look at songs and lyrics lol he made a song called "Devil's Son" Big L was grimey as they come brotha lol
All them dudes was grimey
One of the dopest stories thus far. Cam and Mase transparency is what sets them apart. And the thing is a really heard these names in the early raps. Shouts out to IIWII. Ppl find it hard to believe the hate and jealousy was real.
For years I'm looking at Big L like damn. Now I know why certain shit be happening
My man said well I got to tell you about the 1st time he tried to have me rob ....... lmao 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 word
Mase citing "I Really Mean It" and Cam ain't eeeem catch it lmao
😂😂😂😂
What timeline what he say😂
@@r.a.h.hrealauthentichiphop147 Talking about not wanting to be Ricky from Boyz in the Hood, toward the end (can't listen to pinpoint for now).
@@r.a.h.hrealauthentichiphop147 Fuck it, 11:45, I was able to get it quickly enough without disturbing ol' girl lmao
Tk Kirkland stealing Eddie Murphy rolex, and this story is wild..
😂😂😂😂T.K. is the Forrest Gump of HipHop
Damn RIP Party Arty I still remember that "When I was in Rikers you was in diapers I was in Cyphers rhyming with lifers" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I say that line randomly every now and then.
@@mathamatix582 shit is classic from that smack dvd era 💯💯
You was at home trying to get tighter, rhyming off beat, I was popping off Heat!!! Destroyed Murda Mook!! Only battle Mook lost
@@readyrose3558naw I thought mook won that one
Big L looks and raps like a grimey dude lol
Hip hop history really wild lmao
& there’s so much people don’t even know
Way more stories they can never tell on here, because of statutes for some of the cats involved. The little bit I was around before leaving Harlem in '99, I can verify there is way more that the public will likely never know. You had to have your head on a swivel even in front of your own building back then.
Keep the stories coming! You guys are killing it 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Everyone was jealous of mase at that moment
Big L and Big Lee broke everybody heart. Them dudes was bout themselves it seems 😢
When mase talks about the story when he reveals about L try to line him up look at his face he was hurt about dat dam but uhm yea I enjoy the story😅👏🏿
Party Arty! Everybody wanna party with Arty!
"Mookie!!! YA BARZ IZ WACK AAAAAAAAAAAAND YA LINGO!!!!!"
Hardy
@@loopspringsteen1479Lmaoo classic
When I was in Rikers you was in diapers I was in cyphas rhyming with lifas!
@@loopspringsteen1479I pop ya top….like a can of pringles
I like these hip hop stories from time to time from these legends. These really be legendary moments low key.
Storytelling top tier 🤣🤣🤣
FYI most Men who hate Mase....it's over a chick. CAU, AUC, Spelman
😂😂😂😂
Samantha from Clark Atlanta!
I think L had a grimy side to him! L & his brother was shaky! And it’s the reason he was Killed! Trying to line a childhood friend up for his brother and it backfired!
I know Mase ain't lying (though he lies about SOME things lmao) but I used to be on that block all the time. Lived on 34th and 7th, family on 19th downtown between Lenox and 7th where I also lived, and was also in the 9 for a minute myself on the east side.
But between Jimbo's and the chicken spot he mentioned across from the park, I can picture that scenario VERBATIM. Can't make that up.
Yeah you can tell he’s being honest here just by how he’s delivering the story. Mase is not a good liar lol usually is very obvious when he’s just making up something.
Made a solid individual. He only lies about texting certain niggas about coming to title town 😂
I just want to s/o to Cam for the contextual commentary. This is top tier story telling.
yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! We need more of these segments! (Story time with the crew)
Children Of The Corn!
R.I.P Bloodshed & Big L
Don't forget HUD 6 and Kay slay they also Harlem's royalty 🕊️🕊️😇😇🙏🙏
One of the BEST story time with Ma$e sessions to date, #pause They cut out the part about when Ma$e said the cat who got’em said L was the cat who put’em on, #pause
So that part was cut out. Around the 7:25 mark I assume.
I was watching the podcast early this morning and all of a sudden YT malfunctioned, I thought.
That must be when they took it down and edited it.
@@millenialbroadcast Yeah it’s in the last 30 seconds of this version though
th-cam.com/video/bSwA1uapi9k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Z5hkKIdLppT5FnCM
They cut it out because there was a part in the story where Mase said, "It's over for Big L," and they didn't want that part to be misinterpreted. Someone could use that clip to support the theory that Mase was responsible for L's death.
Friends turn to haters when ya talent starts shining
We all got some back door stories it's wild out here
NYC was so crazy in the 90's kats 🗣️"Really" don't understand
depending on the year 1000 to over 2000 murders a hear … shit was dangerous
You really couldn't wear your jewelry unless you was like that and even if you was it's always one person who doesn't care about who you think you are.
@@WillieWoods-lr9dm you had to keep your chains and medallions tucked.. Perfect example: Wu-Tang. As deep as they were, they still kept their medallions tucked in, because of how grimey they grew up.. The only time they took them out, is during video shoots..💯
The stories my dad told me bout him n his right hand in the Bronx in the 90s .. sound like Krazy n fun times lol
Worse in the 80s.
90s were deceptive because the blocks were gentrifying and old burned out shells that USED to be for druggies and turning tricks were now rehabbed and looking great, but cats who would still buck fifty you over a watch lived right across the block. Had cats thinking it was sweet out there.
To this day, even on my own old blocks -- like Mase, I lived all over HW -- I don't wear anything flashy and keep my headphones around my neck, not my ears, so I don't get got (but I ain't been back to this NEW Harlem since CV).
You can be famous from your block. What makes the hood , the hood meaning the jealousy, envy, and deceit are still where you left it. In the hood .
Dope Throwback storyline Thanks for sharing Mase 😊….R.I.P Big L
Mase keeping 💯. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mase is hilarious! 😂
🗣️This was #Dope Good storytelling, great memories...💪🏾😎
Cam really love mase like a brother, u can tell. Dope they were able to squash their issues.
Crazy they were all in a group together.. Children of the corn!
they cut out the part where Mase said the Spanish dude got beat for information in prison and Mase finds out and says "oh it's over for Big L"
Got it. I was wondering what they said at the 7:25 mark that got cut off.
@@itsvictoroyedeji yup, they clipped it but it lives on Twitter forever
Good looks bro I didn’t even peep something got cut out I just went and listened to the full story
It don’t mean anything tho. If anything it’s was prolly out of respect. If you from NYC, you know Mase has nothin to do with Big L death. That rabbit hole takes you no where.
@@GMNYC but it honestly does put things in perspective L basically got killed over doing this same kinda shit and mase telling this story confirms L was a little grimey
That was a dope hood story! Love whem Ma$e shares his war stories
Big L crew was all haters.. they even ki**ed each other.. smh 39th street "danger zone"
Died over jealousy
Word?
Yep
It was Cam and mase friends too !!@
“You take dough from Mase, you might as well send it back/ I got thugs everywhere, where you goin spending that?” - Mason Betha, N’s Wanna Act
Gotta love a good hood story😂
These stories are GOLD!
Yooo that’s 1 of the Dopest stories… Killa don’t 4get to talk about Al’s Brother Lee 😂😂
Being from Harlem we know all of these stories 💯💯🫡
So mase was tough in Harlem run Big L to the other side of the street is what you saying
When Cam adds context to Ma$e story >>>>>
Hope they share more of these type stories we all here for it🔥🔥
That was dope. You guys need to tell more stories like that.