I am Creole but most people only believe me because of my light skin and hair texture. I normally have to explain what Creole is in Louisiana but people still try to debate me. These are usually people outside of Louisiana with no connection to the culture. The nerve 😂
Similar to when people, usually majority, behave like self styled self appointed 'race police' especially ignoring your ancestral complexity which doesn't comport with their 'American' dichotomous only way of thinking
@@muchadoaboutninjas2659 I'm proud to be "not real french" "not real Irish" and "not real native American" Those countries and peoples didn't want my ancestors and they don't want me. I have no animosity towards them, but I'm not them.
Crazy history here. Cool channel. My grandfather was a lousiana creole with a Spanish last name who died in west Texas. My identity has been conflated with Mexican-American or Tejano but I’m fascinated by this Louisiana thing, as it’s who I am. Great info here
The "Louisiana" Creoles is exactly what he said. This culture is mainly Latin based (French/Spanish), which due to the Roman Christian creed interracial marriage among Roman Christians was blessed by the Church even when society might have not due to class.
Creole originally described those born in the new world of European descent. First used in Brazil to distinguish Portuguese born in the New World and those born in Portugal. (Criolla is the original word).
The word was actually first used in Senegal to describe the mixed children born to a Senegalese mother and a Portuguese father. It was used first for biracial persons.
My father was born in New Orleans from a French and Irish mother and Filipino father. I know a little of the geology, but I would like to research more, and this video and some others have helped, so thank you ❤. Also, any other sources would be helpful 😊
I'm going to have it to mention this to most people that are of French and Irish or mainly French descendant of Louisiana most French or they say they are French are actually mixed with indigenous afro and other races but because of the times they would often just declarate themselves as being considered a French person
I’m intrigued by the 1803 cutoff used in this video/definition. There are French and Caribbean peoples that came to New Orleans in the first 1-2 decades of the 1800’s. These people later mingled with other inhabitants of the region. Wouldn’t they be creole descendants as well? The purchase of the Louisiana territory did NOT automatically change the culture and customs of the people in the New Orleans area instantly within a short period of years. Would that be a practical statement to assume true?
Good stuff! I found my 4 times great grandfather and he’s full blooded Spaniard who married a full blooded Indian. Really strange that I’m considered African American
Only a DNA test can give you an idea if they were actually 'full blooded' anything. I have a white cousin who shares a fifth great-grandparent with me and they were supposedly white at the time, around 1802, and from the Basque country. She has 1 percent African DNA, so that can't be so.
@@Raymond_Petit you’re probably right! His mother and father came from Spain to America so I assume the child would be full blooded Spaniard. Thanks for the correction
@AliveSince1975 that's interesting my 4th or 5th great-grandmother or grandfather were probably French, Spanish, Scots, Italian, Irish, or English they could have been any or these I listed or mixed between some or all of them.
@@AliveSince1975ased on my great grandmother who was mixed I'm not sure what ethnicity of European her parents were but the ethnicities I had in my comment all are a possibly and maybe German too idk. 🤷♂️
I am, and I have all my pedigree back to the 1500’s and further back, a Louisiana Creole. Some of my family look Native American, some look White, and some have more color. But, we are all relatives and we are all accepted as so.
Cajuns migrated from Nova Scotia Canada. Creoles came from Africa and the Caribbean area during winter months they're we're brought to New Orleans when the slave boats could not make it too Ellis Island New York
Excuse me sir that's a misnomer because that's no different then taking out advertisements for mail-order brides and you can't say that that wasn't a thing cuz it was so that doesn't negate anyting actually the fact that there was advertisements
Tell me about the language. Do the so called Cajuns speak different dialect of French than the Creoles of color? I hear a difference accent between the two. I ask because you have stated that Cajun are really country Creoles. I have heard people say that the Cajun French sound much like the French in Nova Scotia Canada 🇨🇦
Louisiana creoles speak the Louisiana creole language and colonial French,Cajuns speak Cajun French derived from the Acadians of Acadia. And Cajuns technically are a sub group of creoles but they have their own specific dialect of French and some do speak the Louisiana creole language as well (usually the ones with colonial French ancestors to some extent from before the influx of Acadians as well as those from more rural areas
Often, the etymology and original meaning of a word has little to do with it's contemporary meaning in a given culture or region, aka semantic progression. The Portuguese word "crioulo" means a servant who was raised in a master's house. By the 16th century, in other European languages the word crioulo referred to someone born “native to the colonies.” In 18th century America however, the first peoples to openly identify as "Creole" were freed French slaves who lived in and around New Orleans. These free African and mixed race people stemmed from the Code Noir (Black Code), signed by King Louis XIV in 1685. It was a set of laws that governed the practice of slavery in the French colonies. It honored the sovranty of a black slave as a person, and echoed the Churches sanctity of ancestry, marriage, and family unit, including offspring between Frenchmen and African slaves, aka Pluckage. It held that if a slave owner had a child with his slave, she was to be freed, they were to be married, and their children were to be fully vested as any French Catholic family. In the 19th century following the Louisiana Purchase, the word Creole became part of the white nomenclature as French Americans reclaiming their unique culture. It's laughable that now Louisiana citizens are fighting to claim some ownership of this word as their ancestral identity. For someone of Choctaw heritage, from my perspective the European arrogance of ownership is what displaced my ancestors on The Trail of Tears to a reservation in Oklahoma.
Because of free man of color despite having as much money as the white counterpart is still a free man of color ultimately and is still subjected to the segregation of his race even in the upper classes and then you free men of color chose to marry a foreign white women as well women of France or the Caribbean and not fellow free women of color from here
Alex de Tocqueville lauded Louisiana's complexity of culture and heritages as 'the way to go' to establish a truly heretofore original actual American society and people.
Could it be because theyre werent many free man of color. And since this was desired outcome for some. All were trying to better their situation economically. Makes sense because a creole could be any complexion.
Louisiana Creole is like Gumbo, a little of this, a little of that, and when finished you have the most incredible dish!
I am Creole but most people only believe me because of my light skin and hair texture. I normally have to explain what Creole is in Louisiana but people still try to debate me. These are usually people outside of Louisiana with no connection to the culture. The nerve 😂
Similar to when people, usually majority, behave like self styled self appointed 'race police' especially ignoring your ancestral complexity which doesn't comport with their 'American' dichotomous only way of thinking
tell people in texas youre cajun and all you hear is "theyre not real french". ugggh no shit. they live in louisiana
@@muchadoaboutninjas2659 I'm proud to be "not real french" "not real Irish" and "not real native American"
Those countries and peoples didn't want my ancestors and they don't want me. I have no animosity towards them, but I'm not them.
They have no connection to education 😂n probably skipped a lot of history through school bc 😂
Crazy history here. Cool channel. My grandfather was a lousiana creole with a Spanish last name who died in west Texas. My identity has been conflated with Mexican-American or Tejano but I’m fascinated by this Louisiana thing, as it’s who I am. Great info here
Thank you for the enlightening education on the matter.
Exactly the definition I use. People don’t always like it but that’s the clearest way to explain it.
My great grandmother was from Alsace and spoke German and French with a German accent.
Thoroughly enjoyed this! 💜💚💛🧿
The "Louisiana" Creoles is exactly what he said. This culture is mainly Latin based (French/Spanish), which due to the Roman Christian creed interracial marriage among Roman Christians was blessed by the Church even when society might have not due to class.
Creole originally described those born in the new world of European descent. First used in Brazil to distinguish Portuguese born in the New World and those born in Portugal. (Criolla is the original word).
Used in Africa first by Portuguese
No, it described a white person or black person not born in the new world.
The Spanish coined the phrase originally to differentiate the Spaniards born on the peninsula and Spanish born in the Americas. Period.
@@jaebee5813 right concept. . .but it comes from the Portuguese word crioulu. look at the etymology. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_peoples
The word was actually first used in Senegal to describe the mixed children born to a Senegalese mother and a Portuguese father. It was used first for biracial persons.
I really enjoyed this man y'all hit it hard in the head. Jeremy is my cousin and he's very knowledgeable!
My father was born in New Orleans from a French and Irish mother and Filipino father. I know a little of the geology, but I would like to research more, and this video and some others have helped, so thank you ❤. Also, any other sources would be helpful 😊
I'm going to have it to mention this to most people that are of French and Irish or mainly French descendant of Louisiana most French or they say they are French are actually mixed with indigenous afro and other races but because of the times they would often just declarate themselves as being considered a French person
Thanks bro. I have always felt creole is a culture not an ethnicity.
I'm from Seattle I didn't even know I was Cajun Creole my great great grandpa names Bull Jackson
Great info. I just changed my TH-cam name from Crazy Cajun to The Lost Creole!
The education of free men of color in Paris cannot be overlooked.
Ay nah Bruddas. Really enjoy yall lectures. Inspires me to do similar videos. Much Respect.
This was pretty interesting. I knew next to nothing about this subject.
I married a Simien from Plaisance, LA. His mother was from Caren Cro. They are creole. I wonder if you are related to them.
I’m intrigued by the 1803 cutoff used in this video/definition.
There are French and Caribbean peoples that came to New Orleans in the first 1-2 decades of the 1800’s. These people later mingled with other inhabitants of the region. Wouldn’t they be creole descendants as well?
The purchase of the Louisiana territory did NOT automatically change the culture and customs of the people in the New Orleans area instantly within a short period of years. Would that be a practical statement to assume true?
Good stuff! I found my 4 times great grandfather and he’s full blooded Spaniard who married a full blooded Indian. Really strange that I’m considered African American
It's all about what you consider yourself
Only a DNA test can give you an idea if they were actually 'full blooded' anything. I have a white cousin who shares a fifth great-grandparent with me and they were supposedly white at the time, around 1802, and from the Basque country. She has 1 percent African DNA, so that can't be so.
@@Raymond_Petit you’re probably right! His mother and father came from Spain to America so I assume the child would be full blooded Spaniard. Thanks for the correction
@AliveSince1975 that's interesting my 4th or 5th great-grandmother or grandfather were probably French, Spanish, Scots, Italian, Irish, or English they could have been any or these I listed or mixed between some or all of them.
@@AliveSince1975ased on my great grandmother who was mixed I'm not sure what ethnicity of European her parents were but the ethnicities I had in my comment all are a possibly and maybe German too idk. 🤷♂️
I am, and I have all my pedigree back to the 1500’s and further back, a Louisiana Creole. Some of my family look Native American, some look White, and some have more color. But, we are all relatives and we are all accepted as so.
They left out high german was mixed in the language also alot creole with german surname with x added in there name
What about Germans who came pre 1803? Can they be called "CREOLE"?
Rare breed but it does exist Sinclairs
Cajuns migrated from Nova Scotia Canada. Creoles came from Africa and the Caribbean area during winter months they're we're brought to New Orleans when the slave boats could not make it too Ellis Island New York
Excuse me sir that's a misnomer because that's no different then taking out advertisements for mail-order brides and you can't say that that wasn't a thing cuz it was so that doesn't negate anyting actually the fact that there was advertisements
I concur ! Good job 👍
German coast German Creoles
Yes that would be an interesting video…I’m related to the Darensbourgs from St. John the Baptist
Had some as some of my ancestors
I found a German ancestor hiding under Creole 😊
Yea that’s a thing down in hahnville we call them bohunks
Tell me about the language. Do the so called Cajuns speak different dialect of French than the Creoles of color? I hear a difference accent between the two. I ask because you have stated that Cajun are really country Creoles. I have heard people say that the Cajun French sound much like the French in Nova Scotia Canada 🇨🇦
Different accents and vocab. Creole French sounds like the French of the last century, old timey language.
We speak Louis Creole called kourvine
Louisiana creoles speak the Louisiana creole language and colonial French,Cajuns speak Cajun French derived from the Acadians of Acadia. And Cajuns technically are a sub group of creoles but they have their own specific dialect of French and some do speak the Louisiana creole language as well (usually the ones with colonial French ancestors to some extent from before the influx of Acadians as well as those from more rural areas
Where can the article mentioned be read?
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We are washitawv
Certainly I certainly have to challenge you on that the Louisiana Creole speak a dialect of French with an African brooch just as the Haitians
Often, the etymology and original meaning of a word has little to do with it's contemporary meaning in a given culture or region, aka semantic progression. The Portuguese word "crioulo" means a servant who was raised in a master's house. By the 16th century, in other European languages the word crioulo referred to someone born “native to the colonies.” In 18th century America however, the first peoples to openly identify as "Creole" were freed French slaves who lived in and around New Orleans. These free African and mixed race people stemmed from the Code Noir (Black Code), signed by King Louis XIV in 1685. It was a set of laws that governed the practice of slavery in the French colonies. It honored the sovranty of a black slave as a person, and echoed the Churches sanctity of ancestry, marriage, and family unit, including offspring between Frenchmen and African slaves, aka Pluckage. It held that if a slave owner had a child with his slave, she was to be freed, they were to be married, and their children were to be fully vested as any French Catholic family. In the 19th century following the Louisiana Purchase, the word Creole became part of the white nomenclature as French Americans reclaiming their unique culture. It's laughable that now Louisiana citizens are fighting to claim some ownership of this word as their ancestral identity. For someone of Choctaw heritage, from my perspective the European arrogance of ownership is what displaced my ancestors on The Trail of Tears to a reservation in Oklahoma.
Because of free man of color despite having as much money as the white counterpart is still a free man of color ultimately and is still subjected to the segregation of his race even in the upper classes and then you free men of color chose to marry a foreign white women as well women of France or the Caribbean and not fellow free women of color from here
Alex de Tocqueville lauded Louisiana's complexity of culture and heritages as 'the way to go' to establish a truly heretofore original actual American society and people.
Could it be because theyre werent many free man of color. And since this was desired outcome for some. All were trying to better their situation economically. Makes sense because a creole could be any complexion.
Jeremey, I have no idea whether placage was a thing, but your assertion is without any real substantive support, sheer speculation.