If it had rubberised grips on the wheels, it would have either; A) Pulled it a lot easier. Or B) dug a hole into the ground. Either way, that's a lot of power.
@@skylark6167 what do you mean by equivalent farm tractor? If they were equal in everything then it would literally be a steam engine. if it were equal in most things except when it was made then it would perform exactly the same. If we are talking equal in torque then it would perform better, given the weight and tires. if we are talking equivalent horsepower then there ain't no way in heck that a gas engine would pull as hard as the steam engine does
nobody is talking about how this is powered by FIRE AND WATER. no turbos or diesel or fancy computers, but fire and water, and it was all hand built! insane
One of my favourite memories of running a traction engine was steaming up past all these crazy expensive new tractors made for pulls and just casually ripping a full pull plus more in a 100 year old tractor. Priceless reactions.
@@rot_studios Well there is also the traction on the ground due to the weight. A lot of tractors just would pivot over the rear axle. Lanz Bulldogs are also always worth a watch in this discipline 55hp 2 stroke glowing head diesel one cylinder engine. ( In the US proably known as the in licence build Argentinian Pampas)
Unlike infernal combustion engines, these external combustion steam engines develop maximum torque at stall, so higher RPM is for speed, but slugin' it out at near stall is where it's at for raw pulling grunt as this roller clearly demonstrated.
@@hunternelson3018 depends, emergency relief valves were put in fairly early into them. Trains had em not that long after they had more than 4 drive wheels. not sure about tractors though.
@@kristiant96 I cant tell if this is a joke or not because I was referring to how steam tractors will never die out, because they're so iconic and powerful
Steam is one of the strongest forms of tractive power, even today. We just dont use it because it creates too much pollution and cant go as fast as electric or internal combustion vehicles due to weight.
100 years old, probably around 20hp, 57 cents worth of coal and 2 gallons of water, and it cost how much for the 4,000hp modified to get stopped 30 ft short of this effort.
hp is more like 80-90, its waaaay older than 100, including warm up your looking at 100+ in coal easy, and water, several hundred gallons just to build pressure.
Have you looked at coal lately? Lol After literally a year of searching (it's hard to find coal west of Pennsylvania), it turns out my local tractor Supply actually does carry anthracite coal for my potbelly. Hint: It's not cheap.
This is a road roller. The road engines had rubber tyres. The agricultural engines had big steel treads and for soft ground they had spuds. Bolt on steel plates.
I know it was said but I’ve watched a lot of these pulls and power is usually not a problem, but the fact he went that far on slicks? that’s impressive.
That's amazing that it pulled like that without any lugs on the wheels. Even with smooth steel, and shear weight it did well. It is had any treat that would have been really something to watch.
Its funny watching the great iron horse play with its food. Make it run all slow and sound like its about to give up, then pull the throttle open to finish at full speed for the laughs.
Check out it's restoration on Facebook back to a traction engine you will be amazed how different it looks now find it on Facebook under Mclaren 1148 "HERCULES"
Two completely different companies. This is a Mclaren built by John & Henry Mclaren & Co of Leeds founded in 1876 not to be mistaken for the Mclaren sports cars which that company has only been around since the 80's. This Mclaren predates both the tractors built by Porsche and Lamborghini by a few decades.
Keep in mind this is a roller, not build for pulling. A steam tractor is geared down way more and would make a full pull. A road locomotive would not even know there was a sled behind it.
This was a traction engine, it was converted to a roller in Italy during the war and worked in Ethiopia. Search McLaren 1148 Hercules on FB to see the restoration.
It's the same concept as how a train moves. You put enough weight on the wheels combined with the torque, you get something called tractive force. Will grip better than any tire.
@@trainzguy2472 the slip is possibly why it did so well, it was able to keep turning the engine over without stalling. More grip may have stalled this beast long before this one called it quits
I wonder if the steam engines could be improved upon in any way in a modern version? One thing I would do and I'm not even experienced at Steam! That could improve power in that is Gear Up the flywheel so it is spinning at a faster speed! And with that big heavy Flywheel spinning at more RPM even at almost stall it would help keep it moving forward always! Especially through the heavy load. Where it's bearing hard on the piston where she seems she's giving out the RPM of the flywheel at faster speeds would carry it through those lulls:-) now what does somebody think of my idea?. They could have a gear cluster on the main flywheel to control the speed of it at other situations
@@andyg3 But its burning that coal efficiently, and not making much smoke. Rolling coal is when you intentionally overfuel to make thick black smoke. Diesels do get more power this way right up until the valves melt from the heat, but it makes a big mess of things. Steamers get the most power when burning clean.
I don't get it! Smooth driving wheels, by nature of what it is, yet it still managed to pull that hefty sled a good way up the pitch. I know about steam engine torque and power-to-weight ratios, but the old girl's performance is still astounding!
If that engine's about 40HP / 30kW, and the back wheels are turning at about 5RPM, the torque is about 42,250 pound-feet / 57,300 Newton-metres..... on slick steel 'tyres'! (Torque N-m = (60 x P watts) / (2 x Pi x N rpm)
I betcha if it rained just a little bit that would put an end I wonder how they worked in muddy Fields these heavy Steamroller machines and how many of them are still buried under the ground it sunk and dug themselves in and they could never get them out? I started to read an article in Wisconsin about buried smokestacks but it wanted me to email up and do cookies and I just quit reading it. I don't know much about it but I was raised on a farm just imagine your steam tractor getting buried in a wet spot in the field in a low area and then having it flood with water and not be able to start it up and fire it up so that even with the help of teams of horses and maybe another steam tractor there's no way you could get it out ever so they just left it there very sad indeed but I think this is true anybody know any history?
One of the few pullers, when done with the pull, can tun around and prep the track for he next guy.
Let us not underappreciate the fact that it pulls this well on slicks!
If it had rubberised grips on the wheels, it would have either;
A) Pulled it a lot easier.
Or B) dug a hole into the ground.
Either way, that's a lot of power.
An equivalent farm tractor would make this look so easy. Considering how much they weigh, with some actual treads there would be no wheel spin at all.
@@thomashambly3718 C) slow the rotation of the earth.
@@skylark6167 what do you mean by equivalent farm tractor? If they were equal in everything then it would literally be a steam engine. if it were equal in most things except when it was made then it would perform exactly the same. If we are talking equal in torque then it would perform better, given the weight and tires. if we are talking equivalent horsepower then there ain't no way in heck that a gas engine would pull as hard as the steam engine does
@@gormauslander Same thing but with four wheels, and some decent grip on the back.
nobody is talking about how this is powered by FIRE AND WATER. no turbos or diesel or fancy computers, but fire and water, and it was all hand built! insane
Steam engines got a ton of torque
@Fred Smith as an old oil rigger told me, "when the buildings were wood and the men were steel. Now the buildings are steel and the men are wood"
The steam powerhouses that drove the industrial revolution.
@Fred Smith Calm down.
never mind that, did you notice the steering is operated by simply pulling a chain on either side
One of my favourite memories of running a traction engine was steaming up past all these crazy expensive new tractors made for pulls and just casually ripping a full pull plus more in a 100 year old tractor. Priceless reactions.
Super entertaining to see, nothing beats all that torque and gear ratio :D
@@rot_studios Well there is also the traction on the ground due to the weight. A lot of tractors just would pivot over the rear axle. Lanz Bulldogs are also always worth a watch in this discipline 55hp 2 stroke glowing head diesel one cylinder engine. ( In the US proably known as the in licence build Argentinian Pampas)
That's the slowest burn out I've ever seen.
Unlike infernal combustion engines, these external combustion steam engines develop maximum torque at stall, so higher RPM is for speed, but slugin' it out at near stall is where it's at for raw pulling grunt as this roller clearly demonstrated.
It's a rare thing indeed..... to see a steam roller wheel spin, serious power being shown there, a delight to see...:)
No matter how old they are, no matter how slow they are, no matter how looked down upon they are..... *They. Won't. Die*
Sari Sumdac unless you forget to refill the boiler, then the tractor and the driver will die.
@@hunternelson3018 depends, emergency relief valves were put in fairly early into them. Trains had em not that long after they had more than 4 drive wheels. not sure about tractors though.
jesus christ take ie easy.
@@kristiant96 I cant tell if this is a joke or not because I was referring to how steam tractors will never die out, because they're so iconic and powerful
@@midgeholt8863 new technology will do it better and faster, but old technology with always do it.
How much torque?
Enough
It doesn't have torque and horses its measured in jobs
@@YEET-yh6qc 😂
All of it.
How much torque do you need mr mclaren?
*yes*
9000 horse power tractor pulls
mrmrmrmrmrUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHH *something breaks*
100-90 horse power steam tractors: chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug
Sən mənim qınsimi yirsən babıl oğlu babıl
all about that torque and mechanical advantage
@@telekom4577 heç yaza da bilmirsən
Its about 30 hp I believe
Steam is one of the strongest forms of tractive power, even today. We just dont use it because it creates too much pollution and cant go as fast as electric or internal combustion vehicles due to weight.
Tractor sled weight - approx. 65,000 pounds / Steamroller weight = the moon
steamroller may weight same as the tractor sled, torque ,very big, the gear reduction is approx 100:1 torque? 6000kgr.m
@@nomon95 on the upside....that track has never been smother in its history lol
Oh they had the power at the beginning of the industrial revolution. And pulling with slicks even!
100 years old, probably around 20hp, 57 cents worth of coal and 2 gallons of water, and it cost how much for the 4,000hp modified to get stopped 30 ft short of this effort.
hp is more like 80-90, its waaaay older than 100, including warm up your looking at 100+ in coal easy, and water, several hundred gallons just to build pressure.
Right!!! Lol
Have you looked at coal lately? Lol After literally a year of searching (it's hard to find coal west of Pennsylvania), it turns out my local tractor Supply actually does carry anthracite coal for my potbelly. Hint: It's not cheap.
112 to be exact
Put that 4000 hp engine in this thing with this much weight, it would full pull no problem...it's a weight issue
Old school stuff that actually works don't mess with it
Bill clinton will try and put a cataletic converter on it
Imagine if they welded some square shafts to the wheels to give traction
Look up the 100 case pull. It's got traction wheels
This is a road roller. The road engines had rubber tyres. The agricultural engines had big steel treads and for soft ground they had spuds. Bolt on steel plates.
I know it was said but I’ve watched a lot of these pulls and power is usually not a problem, but the fact he went that far on slicks? that’s impressive.
That's amazing that it pulled like that without any lugs on the wheels. Even with smooth steel, and shear weight it did well. It is had any treat that would have been really something to watch.
No traction at all and STILL out pulls anything out there, today.
@noah lawrence do rollers really need high speeds? Pretty sure the modern day diesel ones are just as slow considering it's a slow job...
Smooth metal wheels is all you need when you weigh as much as 3 moons
@@SUPRAMIKE18 🤣😂😂👍👍👍👍👍
@noah lawrence slowly but surely wins the race!
not necessarily.. there are still some old case steam tractors around that would tear this Mclaren in half
wow, that calls old is gold. thanks for your video. I ever saw. Thanks for posting this.
Absolutley! And built to last!
Just imagine how far he'd of gotten with any kind of treds on those rear wheels . . .
by far the best "torque"
talking vid, on the tube of u
on smooth pavement wheels too. impressive!
Wow. It did that on slicks and the sled wheels were up. Amazing!
Amazing sound
All I imagine when hearing this is someone banging the shit out of a sheet of tin for no reason whatsoever.
@@skully214 well thanks now i cant unhear that
What a nice time travel with those piece of engineering
It does have the added advantage that it also pre-preps the track for you after each pull.
Its funny watching the great iron horse play with its food. Make it run all slow and sound like its about to give up, then pull the throttle open to finish at full speed for the laughs.
How much HP?
Around 100 i guess
How much torque is that?
All of it
What a incredibly powerful steam roller! Like this! It shows that steam is a great unstoppable Force!💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Anyone know what kind of cams he’s running? Want to put the same in my swapped horse buggy
A+ Comedy. Thats fuckin hilarious.
But in all seriousness, he's running Walschertz valve gear. So mild to raunchy.
Check out it's restoration on Facebook back to a traction engine you will be amazed how different it looks now find it on Facebook under Mclaren 1148 "HERCULES"
The man on the throttle is really good!
That we me lol
Wait Mclaren? The car company that makes supercars used too make tractors? I know Lamborghini and Porsche did but i did not know Maclaren did
Two completely different companies. This is a Mclaren built by John & Henry Mclaren & Co of Leeds founded in 1876 not to be mistaken for the Mclaren sports cars which that company has only been around since the 80's. This Mclaren predates both the tractors built by Porsche and Lamborghini by a few decades.
Keep in mind this is a roller, not build for pulling. A steam tractor is geared down way more and would make a full pull. A road locomotive would not even know there was a sled behind it.
This was a traction engine, it was converted to a roller in Italy during the war and worked in Ethiopia. Search McLaren 1148 Hercules on FB to see the restoration.
Just a little more heat, and some cleats on the back wheels. The weight was all the way to the front, just a few feet from the start.
That defeats the purpose of it being a steam ROLLER with smooth wheels for rolling
Finally! A tractor that can pull Rosie O’Donnell away from a buffet.
These old beauty's are the definition of old is gold
You know there some serious weight being pulled when a steam rollers wheels begin to spin
I wouldn't have thought a roller would be able to dig in enough to pull a sled that far! Guess I was wrong.
michigandon that have a huge amount if torgu but low horsepower and very hevey
It's the same concept as how a train moves. You put enough weight on the wheels combined with the torque, you get something called tractive force. Will grip better than any tire.
It is slipping considerably though. If it had knobby tires like a normal steam tractor it would pull faster.
@@MrWolfSnack which is why you need heavier engines more than you need more powerful ones. It's all about weight on the driving wheels.
@@trainzguy2472 the slip is possibly why it did so well, it was able to keep turning the engine over without stalling. More grip may have stalled this beast long before this one called it quits
And hes running slicks! Lol
Hmm, nice slo-mo video! 👍🏻😁
Never get to see actual "steam rollers" so this is double cool.
Is this why McClaren are not doing very well in Formula 1? Lol
This got me thinking - how do you stall a steam engine?
You can always try to put it in front of a concrete wall, or just decrease its steam output.
You do know that when the sled stops that is the end of the pull right ?
Meh tractor didnt seem to notice
WOW! Thanks for this video. What a job!
That's what I call a great match of Torque & Traction!
The little engine that could. Ain’t no power like steam power.
this what gave birth to automotive engine idea its amazing
What was the official distance?
Engineers of steam engines: how much torque do u want?
Farmers: yes
“Yeah baby I drive a McLaren. I’ll pick you up at 9”
When steam engines going into ‘slow drag mood’, they have tremendous power.
How much torque?
*yes*
Was it a full pull or did he give up before finish line?
What an AMAZING performance ...... AND on steel slicks!!!!!! ROFL!
THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!
I wonder if the steam engines could be improved upon in any way in a modern version? One thing I would do and I'm not even experienced at Steam! That could improve power in that is Gear Up the flywheel so it is spinning at a faster speed! And with that big heavy Flywheel spinning at more RPM even at almost stall it would help keep it moving forward always! Especially through the heavy load. Where it's bearing hard on the piston where she seems she's giving out the RPM of the flywheel at faster speeds would carry it through those lulls:-) now what does somebody think of my idea?. They could have a gear cluster on the main flywheel to control the speed of it at other situations
That's how you polish the wheels
Little steamtrain uphill : aa tink aa can !...aa tink aa can ! Downhill : i, thought I could !...I thought could ! Tractor also very good !
wish they continued to make steam powered equipment, the sound alone should be good enough reason
That was very impressive
A 100 year old piece of equipment with more torque than modern equipment.
She may be slow but she doesn’t stop…
Doesn't even roal coal to make Power
What?
it does run on coal...
@@andyg3 But its burning that coal efficiently, and not making much smoke. Rolling coal is when you intentionally overfuel to make thick black smoke. Diesels do get more power this way right up until the valves melt from the heat, but it makes a big mess of things. Steamers get the most power when burning clean.
If he had 3 wheel drive could have turned the earth's rotation backwards, best piece of rare steam equipment I ever saw
17,947-lbs. of torque... at 27-rpm.
Damn, Mclaren has come a long way!
old steam girl says : how many horsepower I have? enough to eat you
All that power and no smoke
Steamers may not be quick, but they have TORQUE!!
Fantastic. Thanks for a great video.
Traction on those smooth wheels was always gonna be the problem. But steam never stops.
- How much torque?
- Yes.
What of we use gas to heat up steam and then power up these monsters. Woupd be epic.
Just imagine what it would do with traction from runber
That's simply fantastic.
Raw Power!
“Railways Are No Good! Turn Em Into Roads!”
"Ripping up rails!" he chortled
"What a life."
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can is going through my mind
it's steam. it knows it can, it's trolling us.
I don't get it! Smooth driving wheels, by nature of what it is, yet it still managed to pull that hefty sled a good way up the pitch. I know about steam engine torque and power-to-weight ratios, but the old girl's performance is still astounding!
Wooo, look that that wheel spinning. Steam powered drift tractor.
Olha ai vix não tem tecnologia más força 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
why not front wheel off the ground
That "front wheel" weighs more than your car.
Tyler Wagner you mean, 3 cars.
If that engine's about 40HP / 30kW, and the back wheels are turning at about 5RPM, the torque is about 42,250 pound-feet / 57,300 Newton-metres..... on slick steel 'tyres'! (Torque N-m = (60 x P watts) / (2 x Pi x N rpm)
Modern Era: 3200hp and 3400lb-ft torque at 4500rpm. $150k
Good Old Days: 150hp and 3500lb-ft torque at 250rpm. $3600
*I'll take the steam engine*
Slow Motion Pulling at it's best !!
they dont have to worry about overheating
Good work
Liked his mate giving him a hoot
I betcha if it rained just a little bit that would put an end I wonder how they worked in muddy Fields these heavy Steamroller machines and how many of them are still buried under the ground it sunk and dug themselves in and they could never get them out? I started to read an article in Wisconsin about buried smokestacks but it wanted me to email up and do cookies and I just quit reading it. I don't know much about it but I was raised on a farm just imagine your steam tractor getting buried in a wet spot in the field in a low area and then having it flood with water and not be able to start it up and fire it up so that even with the help of teams of horses and maybe another steam tractor there's no way you could get it out ever so they just left it there very sad indeed but I think this is true anybody know any history?
There wasn't even tread on rims , just smooth.
absolutely AWESOME !!!! thank you
Sounds like someone pushing a shopping cart down some steps.
Hate to think of the forces on the boiler
Science teacher: remember class you can't see torque. plays this video on the projector
Me: you sure about that
Smooth wheels and nothing slow this thing down
Old technology...AWESOME power!
Super sound steamer!
Beautiful machine
What a Valliant Effort way to go