Comparing British and US Healthcare Systems
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- Jocelyn Herrington from George Mason University, Virginia is studying at New College, University of Oxford. Interviewed by Director of Voices from Oxford, Dr Sung Hee Kim, she discusses the differences between European government funded healthcare systems such as the NHS and the largely private provision in the USA. Jocelyn also explains the difference between Medicare and Medicaid, and highlights the steps President Barack Obama has made to widen healthcare provision for Americans.
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When a system favours profit over the health of its population then we are in trouble.
Long live the NHS.
thurmo82..spot on.
Jim Elliott - you are so right regarding the tories. Give it a few more years and the NHS wont even exist. The tories are deliberately running the NHS into the ground to completely dismantle it. Consultants are now having to bid for funding and if the funding isn't released patients are offered pain killers and chronic pain management so the only other option of getting the treatment they need is to pay private which is all good and well if you can afford private care. Spinal injections are now on rations and if cancer patients are being denied treatment and certain drugs then people with other health problems don't stand a chance.
Jim Elliott They wont. This scare story has been around at every election since the 1950s. No sign of it yet.
The NHS is built on an ideology not practicality. There's long waiting list, difficulties in seeing GP's. No strategy for disease prevention - dealing with obesity etc. In general British people aren't healthy.
yes!
There is a parallel in the UK Insurance Industry. If I damage my vehicle the repairer will ask if I am claiming on Insurance. If it is an Insurance claim they will quote for repairs that cost up to ~80% of the 'write-off value' including 'new for old' replacements on an older vehicle. If I say that I am paying from my own pocket they will quote a much lower cost repair. Similarly, US medical services know that they can charge top dollar for procedures financed by insurance.
Only a non-profit health can be good. Otherwise, only the benefits matter, not people's health.
In the UK we pay a small deduction from our wages for National Insurance.
National Insurance Contributions do not finance the NHS. The NHS is financed through general taxation (Income Tax, VAT etc). NIC funds the State Pension for the most part.
Truth is that America is a corporate and capitalist structured economy, the harder you work the slightly better your life will be, unless you are educated in the finest schools, universities and have a few influential friends in high places then you will remain at the bottom of the ladder forever, heritage plays a hidden part in that social structure, not only do you need to know people but your grandparents and great grandparents needed to have known them too.
Also, America exists solely on debt, if you don't own a credit card or have a credit rating then you will find living in America extremely difficult, most people don't even own the stuff they have like cars or the house because it's all on finance, even their medical insurance is on finance, it's all about keeping up with the Jones's, it's a have it now pay later scenario, Americans are constantly bombarded with the "American dream" and "purchase everything in sight" mentality with no real reason to do it other than what the TV tells them ie: buy this product and you can live better, more comfortably and shove your finger up the noses of everyone you know just to show them how much better and successful you are.
America is a fraud, the whole system needs to be rewritten, the problem here is that they are importing their corrupt structure to the rest of the world to enslave the population into perpetual servitude, look at your spI-phone, one comes out nearly every single year and yet the sheep insist on buying one even though the damn thing has a planned death date due to the permanently installed battery and even then you have to buy every little piece of crap you want to load onto it, it's a money eating gadget but still people buy it because they are buying into the concept of social status, a little toy that makes people stick their noses up in the air with a smug expression on their face and the mindset of "I'm better than you! haw haw haw", well no you're not because that phone is going to be worth a fiver in a few years and I will still have my "old" phone and still have £500+ more to spend on the stuff that I want or I could just save it or maybe I'll buy some gold bars.
Americans spend so much money it's obscene but yet despite all the taxes spent on all that crap the Government still won't pay for your care when you get ill, you are getting screwed, I feel sorry for you all.
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PapaWilk THANK YOU!
2016 world health organization ranking countries healthcare systems the u.s.a. is ranked at 37 on there table thats piss poor the u.s.a. has got the worst healthcare system out of the western countries
But the US has certainly got the MOST EXPENSIVE healthcare in the world.
Wow, America has a health care system ? When did that happen ?
Comes down to one thing, who do you trust more with your personal healthcare, business or government? Simple as. I trust the tax payer and those that spend it to provide my care because they can be held accountable. Business cares about profit only, that is why I distrust business with my healthcare.
ed maybe..very good comment.
Jeremiah Shea It is as simple as that though. I trust an NHS doctor because they are motivated by the Hippocratic oath, a private doctor is motivated by money.
Ed Maybe - its getting exactly the same over here in the UK with the NHS. We have the conservative government to blame for the state of the NHS. They are deliberately running the NHS into the ground to make the healthcare system operate as it does in America. We have paid huge amounts of National Insurance and taxes over the years towards healthcare and the minute you need something from the system you cant access anything. The NHS is operating as a profit organisation and in a few more years the NHS will be no existent. It saddens me how the NHS was once the envy of the world but sadly this is no longer the case.
Nhs is best so poops to yanks
Ed Maybe. Your ignorance is astounding. The (obvious) truth is exactly opposite to your stupid belief. Capitalism works because everyone is held to account. Exactly opposite to what happens in the public sector. Standards are constantly improved as businesses compete for business. Do you honestly think Apple would constantly improve their phones and technology if they weren't frightened that another company will take their business? The NHS provides a pretty awful standard because, ultimately, no one cares. It's extremely unlikely that anyone will get the sack when things go wrong. Like checking for sepsis for instance. Thousands who could survive and lead normal lives, die every year because no one really cares, no one gets the sack. If a hospital has a bad reputation it doesn't go broke. It just carries on. Never in the history of mankind has there ever been, or will there ever be, a well managed, efficient government run organisation.
The American systems great IF you can afford it
But you are paying massively for it. You are paying much more than you should be and giving the medical and pharma corporations massive profits
Mostly worse outcomes, average life expectancy lower and twice as expensive, it's not even good if you can afford it.
America has an insurance industry between the people and the medics. Insurance has to be taken out of the American system and in so doing the cost of it would be reduced greatly. The cost of the American health system cost so much more due to their being so many middle men.
It's called Capitalism.
when has this interview actually taken place?
No contest! UK all the way! A far better and more enlightened system. Trump is a clown!
This was pre Trump
@@finallyfinally9317 Pre Trump or not, the statement holds up. Get your point.
The NHS isn't free though to people who live and work here, you have to pay a small tax out of your wages each week/month which pays towards the NHS, yeah those payments probably dont cover the cost of the treatment you receive but still, technically not free.
Mass_Killer_SJM I do not pay tax. I have an inheritance.
Still are far more enlightened and fairer system! Private healthcare? You can keep it and continue to let your people die
Yeh. But those of us in America who are working pay into Medicaid in our taxes and yet a majority of us can't get medicaid. So we're basically paying into a system we can't benefit from.
On top of paying Medicaid taxes that people like me can't benefit from we either have to pay extra for insurance, somehow come up with rediculous amounts of money on hospital bills or go without and simply die off.
some people pay no tax
Is it a system if run by insurance companies or just private business?
The government doesn't directly employ doctors and nurses etc. The government collect the taxes and set the national health policy and strategy. Actual employment of doctors etc is by local NHS organisations who then decide what health services are required.
I wish Miss Herrington was running for President. She is intelligent, modest and is an absolute credit to the US... and on the other hand you have Trump!
+winnywin I'd second that!
+winnywin If I won half a million or a million pounds on the National Lottery over here, I'd be set up for life. An American friend of mine told me that half a million or even a million would not keep me secure for long in the USA. How true is that?
+The Batman ..interesting comment/question..of course it realy depends on how u spend it..u know that saying"a fool and is money r easily parted".
Jeremiah Shea Fair point. I've just heard that unless I found a decent job, it'd be eaten away pretty fast. Over here a Million or even a Half million would set me up for the rest of my life.
The US must be the only 'developed' country that sees intelligence and liberalism as bad. To be liberal means to be tolerant of other peoples views. There is no liberty without liberal thoughts and actions.
Thank you :)
And things will change only when politicians listen to experts that present results of studies contrary to the opinion of their paymasters, the corporations, and other vested interests. Only then will things change.
Did Oxford not teach her that there are no degrees of uniqueness?
From my understanding European healthcare systems done fine people $2,000 per year if they don't sign up for healthcare.
Am I right or wrong you tell me since I have not been able to get that information from anyone in the US.
Within the UK when you are born you are given a Medical Card with a unique number and as such are enrolled into the health system. When you begin work you are then given a National Insurance (NI) number, without a NI number you cannot find legal work. When you are paid your employer deducts your income tax and NI contribution and that goes to the government. Your employer also has to pay NI for your employment. NI payments go to cover the cost of your health care, your pension for when you retire and a proportion goes towards social benefits like unemployment costs. Most European systems work the same or in a very similar way. I have never heard of anybody getting fined for not signing up for healthcare. In the UK because every woman goes to see her doctor when she is pregnant the doctors are aware their is a baby on the way. When the child is born the hospital or if born at home the midwife will give both the mother a letter and inform the GP (general practitioner) that a live birth has taken place and the doctors surgery will begin the process of registering the child with that practice. To not register with a doctor would take a great deal of effort and because of what is on offer you would be mad not to do so. I think what you have heard is a scare story put out by vested interests in the USA who don't want to lose a very lucrative income. Having checked on the NHS website there is no mention there of fining you if you don't register.
very unique perspective
Most universities in the uk have turtorial systems . I had them at Manchester university and Manchester metropolitan university
Is that something to do with turtles, or did you mean TUTORIAL..?
Obamacare will get more people insured,,,, but insurance is not the same as access, as Ms Herrington says. The next step is to make sure that the medical system works effectively. The UK NHS never tracks cost at the patient level. But the US system does and it adds greatly to the overheads in the US system.
No contest uk wins all the way
US healthcare is wonderful if your wealthy but for everyone else you pay a lot and have to hope you or a loved one don't get anything too serious medical wise or you'll end up on the street homeless.
John Maddin it's not wonderful, it's not even good, you have worse outcomes for most problems and lower life expectancy, you have been conned.
British is best in everything.
Especially their teeth!
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workers can pay for all of it.
Not at it's own expense its tax money that EVERYONE pays .
Only those working and earning above the lower earnings limit
It costs half as much , Americans pay almost as much to support Medicaid and Medicare as we pay for the whole of the NHS, Americans are being lied to and ripped off.
@@paulm2467 Actually, Americans pay a little more for Medicaid, Medicare and Veteran's Affairs (VA) Healthcare per capita. An average, ill-educated, brain-washed US citizen will soon reply with "I be 'Murican, its a huge country, we are the best an we have five times the population of England". President Trump will give us clean coal ". Unfortunately, the average US citizen has no idea what 'GDP' or 'per-capita' means and believes the lies, on both sides of their politics.
@@TheAlanSaunders that wouldn't surprise me at all, I never new that vets were in a separate program. I think that it's probably impossible to counter the amount of propaganda that the US government and the insurance /medical industries put out. I hope that America does well in the current crisis but I really fear for them.
There are more than two countries in the world.
Im here from 2020 haha
I know this is 7 years ago but I would say the NHS and any other form of Universal Healthcare system is a philosophical question first, this shapes economic system and this shapes laws. So look at the philosophy of why we have a NHS and why US is different.
NHS is about social good from which economic benefits flow, US system is about economic system from which social benefits flow. The former is direct and efficiently the latter is indirect and inefficient and the data is there to prove.
Then I would add "brainwashing' vs "experiences" - the US's commercially backed stakeholders are funding a strong brainwashing programme to villainide universal healthcare calling "Socialised Heathrow" as if anyone who wants Socialism is a nothing less than a communist or Marxist. This is propaganda to protect profits. In contrast the NHS is an experienced system and UK love the NHS, they just want Conservative Govts to increase its funding and not keep starving it with cuts. Also the UK are culturally cynical and complainers because we always want things to get better but that's not a reason for US propaganda system to use this and blow it out of proportion.
Anyway since this video there are huge amounts of research and anecdotal evidence that says the US are absolutely bananas to not be on universal healthcare system and why people should relegate it to the bottom of rhe list of places to live
LONG STORY SHORT: The Brits give you a helping hand.
In America, all you get is the middle finger!
I find her very attractive................Jocelyn I mean, not the one wearing the purple jacket!
Britain is best full stop.
UK health care works us healthcare doesn't
Oxford what should have gone to Cambridge.
Not very difficult to understand the difference between the US and the UK. There is no societal responsibility in the US, it's all about individual wants (a me me me culture), fear is prevalent and nurtured, its money driven and stepping on people to rise is encouraged; the exact opposite of the UK.
Jocelyn...why don't you stay in Europe.
Known_Terrestrial fuck off
Don't worry, most of us intend to.