Is Self-Realization Also Maya? | Swami Sarvapriyananda
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- Swami Sarvapriyananda speaks on the question, "Isn't Enlightenment or Self-Realization also part of Maya?".
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Lord Sri Krishna... Always take care of Swami sarvapriyananda. 🙏🙏
@greglejacques1094 He was a male... He married with queens... And had sons as well... Read History (Mahabharata) Child, then you will learn Child.
@Greg LeJacques Lord is not bound to any gender.. Krishna is Param Purush (Purush×=Man)... Whenever u think of Supreme being whether Brahaman or God ..they all are Purusha....
@@amanenergy4181 yes he will .... do u know Swamiji's previous name was Biswaroop 🙏🏽...So, if u r thinking as he talks about brahman & Advaita bedanta.. he doesn't follow bhakti... that's wrong... In Ramkrishna order everyone follow the path of Bhakti as well.. it's iskcon's narrative that who are not vaishnav they are "Mayabadi"...
@Greg LeJacques & i know from where all this shit is comming in ur head which also expressed from ur language.. though it's quite amazing that u always hear such videos or podcast... good for you 🤣🤣🤣🤣 i wonder if u r not like all these why are u bothering about all these at all ??
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My father, Late Syam Sundar Chaudhury was a Sanskrit Pandit of 1950's. When I was 14 he would chant all these verses of Uponishads to me and would try to explain God as it is, as Uddalok to Shewtaketu. I was never interested but he would try. After a journey of 60 years of life now I feel how a father should be. After hearing Swami Swarbapriyanandji I recall him and recall one thing that my father did not attain the highest but achieved one thing in his life, he achieved to be free from Krodha and Dwesa (anger and jealousy). So it will take birth after birth to attain the highest and he will try to teach his son in every life. My father was my spiritual Guru in real sense but I could not recognise.
Thankyou for bringing out highest level of knowledge. Pranaams Swaamijee .😊
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Thank you Swamiji 🙏🙏🙏
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What perfect logic !
Thank you for sharing 🙏🥰✨
This is why Vedantins do not attempt to be liberated and, as Ishopanishad says, go from darkness to greater darkness.
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Please give lecture on vidya maya and avidya maya
He just did.
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disagree .
Pronam Maharaj
Yes Maharaj it is exactly The Vidya Maya and through this cognitively empirical evolving journey of Vidya Maya which is nothing else than devoting the self for the enrichment of the auspiciousity in humanity this realisation become assimilated in the holy sublime ideal pure heartfulness that The Eternal Absolute Freedom must have to be the absolute truth is understable very easily if we thoroughly discriminate the evolvement procedures of human lives along with the human civilization in basis of most finely tuned absolute rationality where it is vey much appreciable to be accepted that after attaining the absolute sublime ultimate pure ideal divinity in the character which enrich the humanity with ultimate auspiciousity suddenly just can not become degraded most irrationally and here it shows the significance of The Eternal Absolute Freedom as the underlying philosophical rationality of humanity with the meaningfulness of obviously having one the causal factor for the manifestational transformation of all the probable existences beyond any question as the ultimate reasoning of the existence itself
Punctuation exists.
@@josef2012 Punctuation exists, but is unattached, in/to the long text.
And an Advaita State is an unbroken ceaseless continuum, so punctuation has no reason or place, to come and set up, breaks and pauses and barriers in the continuum.
Which never started does not have an end. 😆😆
Enlightenment is so ordinary. It’s just this. No more thinking about it. No more striving to be more enlightened. 😹😹😹
👁SEER👁 = Self/Samsara/Sentience/Somebody/Sannyâsin-Exist-Exit-Realize❗
Song of the Sannyâs scene😊
Requiem for a Sannyâsin..
👁"For the mind (Sannyâsin) that masters view (Samsâra) emptiness dawns in the content seen (Sannyâs scene). Not even one Sannyâsin exists.
A seer (Sannyâsin) and seen (Samsâra) refined until they're gone
This way of realizing view (Sannyâs), it works quite well.
I'm a gone Nobody impersonating impersonality❗
Why so 👁️seerious👁️❓
You may 👁see👁 I'm a 👁seer👁 but I'm not anyone❗
Say what now?
@@josef2012 In this world of Maya, drifting off still more; and once again speaking and defining Maya. Just let it be.
@@josef2012 For the mind that masters view the emptiness dawns
In the content seen Not even an atom exists
A seer and seen refined until they’re gone
This way of realizing view, it works quite well. - The Profound Definitive Meaning
by Milarepa
Not sure..but the if enlightenment is also Maya..then it's like a dream only..if u are realised then it's a sweet dream if u are engrossed in avidhya Maya then probably it's a horror dream. When u wake up both ends..so how does it matter if u observe Vidya or avidya Maya? when u wake up both of them end only doesn't matter whatever be the taste.(sweet/bitter/horror).so basically it seems to me for the first time that so much hoohoohaahaa about spirituality is not worth. Too much of Advait vedanta is also very depressing.
What matters is, at the end of it, are YOU ( rather I) freed from bondage ( to, body, mind, world ), suffering and worry, anxiety, birth and death, and have lasting contentment and peace, and do not have any sense of lack of anything, which you need to strive for ( you don't hanker after your dream objects, once you have got outside the appearance and illusions of the dream).
The reality of the pudding is in the eating.
@@ramakrishnanpanchapakesan299 Thank you so much for your reply..I so much agree with you. But after hearing this answer of Swami ji, let me try to put out once more: if striving for freedom also is Maya, and the final freedom(enlightenment) is also Maya. Then it doesn't matter if you were striving or not striving coz the Maya bubble is going to break at once. And then nothing matters. Because even the great avatars have lived with sadness and sufferings and disease at times (and they were well aware of them at that time), so we ordinary beings can't be spared. These things will come and pass with the influence of Maya. What Swami ji says over here is the pudding (that u have mentioned) is also maya so what are u actually eating when there is no pudding that exists?
@@winteriscoming7493 While the illusion lasts, you are still in the sway of Maya. So you may strive , from within Maya, to get over the illusion, because through reasoning, luck, or Lectures, you Intuit or glimpse a peep into the Free, Not in Bondage, Not in illusion State. All the striving has a component of Maya, which still has its hold on you, though you may not be fully covered or immersed in it ( like striving to get out of a muddy Swamp).
And to say the Maya Bubble will anyway burst, with or without your striving (which is also at least somewhat within Maya) is Wrong. Unless the striving is there, and thereby one attempts to loosen Maya's grips, by at least intuiting that " YOU / I" is beyond Body, Mind etc., Maya on its own, will never release you from its grips, and the hold on you may only increase, in myriad forms.
While " snapping out of a dream" , may occur on its own, snapping out of Maya, needs effort or striving, within the realm of Maya ( hence named Vidya Maya).
Like an oft used analogy, you use a thorn to remove a thorn and then throw both thorns away.
On Waking up ALL THE REALITY SEEN AND EXPERIENCED IN DREAM, INCLUDING HAPPINESS, FEAR AND PAIN etc. are known to be unreal, illusory, and Never did Really Exist, so also when the last grip of Maya is shaken out and you are no longer in its grip ( like being in the midst/ grip of a dream, during dream experience), you realise that YOU/ I was the only True Reality all along, and were never Bound or Limited by anything, and Maya too is seen to be a Truly NonExistent Illusion.
The reference to the proof of the pudding, was to the realised experience. In that state, there is no hunger ( desire to have or consume or possess anything), so no eating or desire to eat. Yet you have Everything, and are always without Want. For YOU are ALL in ONE, and ONE in ALL.
@@ramakrishnanpanchapakesan299 the highest truth with respect to advait is that : nobody is in bondage, no sansaara exists, nobody practicing spiritual disciplines, there are no seekers, nobody wants liberation, nobody is enlightened..if bondage is not true then freedom is also not true. Liberation is also a part of Maya. Now all this appears very theoretical. Hence not acceptable. That's why I said too much of Advait becomes depressing. Now coming to concept of jivan muktas. Again that is very very rare concept, that of a jivan mukta, our holy scriptures have mentioned that even the avataras have experienced mental agonies and they were well aware of the same, but still experienced. Even Shree Ramakrishna suffered medical conditions and he was well aware of the same. Just saying that body is experiencing and not me..coz I am the Atman is again very theoretical. It just tells ok you have accepted the medical condition/ or the mental agony..which is good in a away, but incomplete and theoretical. Coz ur Atman is aware that body has problems. Coz of the body all the experiences are there even the Atman experience is there. If I say body dies and I will not die, I will be there, I was there..what does that mean? Do I mean of experiences that my I had or my I will have? So that's again very incomplete..coz I still desire to be there after this body, coz I knew I was there also. And those desires shall be fulfilled how ? Thru some more experiences ..in next birth. So how cum am I enlightened and free from birth and death cycle.
@@winteriscoming7493 A seeker of Truth or Reality has to go through four stages. First is Sravana, hearing the Truth ( ideally from a Living Guru in his presence). We are all at various stages of this Sravana only now.
Then comes Manana, when we have to cogitate on this and resolve all conflicting conceptions, through repetitively mulling over what was heard. This Manana is an individual's own effort and others can't help him much.
After one has through Manana, resolved conflicts in the concepts, one has to make constant efforts to achieve and stay in the Non Dual State, as an Experiential and not Theoretical knowledge. When this stage reaches its fulfilment, then one can be like Ramana, effortlessly and ceaselessly remain in the Advaitic State, and yet interact with the world and people, as a Jivan Muktha.
Since I am yet to reach even the Sravana stage, I cannot help resolve your queries or doubts, beyond a limit. A sincere and serious seeker is assured of getting timely guidance in this path. ( For Sravana, youtube listening is not the same as hearing from a Qualified Realised Guru; it may at the most, whet the intellectual appetite)
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@greglejacques1094 Blessings to you and your excrement!
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ENLIGHTENMENT to excrement, is the west.
Excrement to ENLIGHTENMENT, is the east.
The twain shall never meet.
@Greg LeJacques I guess you could say that excrement is enlightenment of the anus
No matter how bad i feel i must remind myself that this all is a manifestation of my highest self. Everything is exactly as it should be. Everything is perfect
Introspection is must before deriving the conclusion u just drew..enquire who is feeling like this, what is making this feeling, why are u feeling like this. Only mind borne sufferings can be removed with the mind rationaling. The sufferings of body and sufferings inflicted by nature can't be dealt with mind rationaling, they will be there. Measures to some extent can be taken to alleviate them.
if you do finally manifest $2B and feel good with yourself, make a point of manifesting $2.1B and sending me the 100 million, then we can both be happy
NAMASKAR Thankyu Swamiji Excellent Excellent
Thank you very very much Swamiji and rest of the members involved in uploading this video on internet.Vedanta and it's beautiful,blissful explanation by Swamiji is helping me to know and understand more about Spirituality.
I pray for the Spiritual elevation of each and every person in this Universe🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hari Om! Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti I .
🙏❤ I love listening to you dear Swami, what you share with us is such refreshing, enlightening food. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! 🙏❤
Namaste.
So, - “Is Self-Realization Also Maya? - It is !”
Swamiji frequently tells a story about the washerman and his donkey. One day he forgets the rope to tie the donkey, so he pretends to tie up the donkey, and the donkey thinks it is in bondage and stays still, not trying to escape. Then his washing done, he loads the donkey’s back with the wash clothes but the donkey won’t budge. He understood the problem and pretends to untie the donkey and it starts to walk with the washed load. I think we can connect it here…
Avidya maya is the wasehrman pretending to tie the donkey and Vidya maya is the washerman pretending to untie the donkey. Both together form Maya. Bondage has to be false for one to be free by getting knowledge. If the bondage was real, then knowledge will only be able to let you know you are in bondage, it cannot free you from the false bondage into the realization that you are ever free.
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OMG, now I understand that zen koan: Nangaku sits in meditation, Basho asks him what's he doing. Nangaku says, " to be a buddha" . So Basho picks up a title and starts to polish it. Intrigued, Nangaku asks him why? Basho, says he intends to polish it into a mirror. " mirror? but it's a tile, doesn't matter how much you do it, it'll never be a mirror! " To this Basho replies, " and how can sitting in meditation help you become a buddha? " Everyone is already awakened, the searching for awakening and the idea of awakening itself are all just Maya. A profound paradox.
Mankind must be extremely grateful to Vedanta Society of New York for bringing out this beautiful ancient Hindu Philosophy for the entire world.
Maya or Mithya is to be uncovered by Vidya or understanding the Ultimate.
The inner revelation and self contentment making one ,
No one can really explain Tne Ultimate as it’s beyond senses , unexplainable; one can feel but can’t explain. It’s an experiential process only
Swamiji: why are you so far away in a distant land doing this work when we need you here in your homeland, that of Sri Ramakrishna and Swami Vivekananda and of millions of fellow Indians who need your wisdom and guidance? Please return and tour the country and share the wisdom of advaita?
Everything is Maya. For The First Ty In This Time Space Reality, We Humans have Access To Here & Now through The Highest Technology in Spiritual Science. You Can Choose to Drink From The Cup Or Open Your Fountain ❤ Thanks to Science and Spirituality we Are The Most Fortunate. Be Still And Know, Ye Are Gods. Go Within & You’ll never Be Without ❤
Namaskar
Swami Sarvapriyanda is not only for India, he is the asset and gem for the world. Indians are fool of the highest grade..
He is continuing what Swami Vivekananda started, teaching the whole world :)
Probably the most enlightened being on the planet. A Spiritual star, spreading Light n Love. My pranams and eternal gratitude dear Swami. 🙏
There is no such thing really as mostly or almost Enlightened. Either one is or one is not. And kindly don't assume things out of nowhere. Probably you live in a materialistic world and rarely come across spiritually advanced individuals but in societies which value religion or spirituality more it need not be the case.
Self-Realization is the moment you understand you are the Eternal Creator of All Things.....!! The only REALITY!!
Adi Shankara actually wrote there are layers of Maya, layers and layers that had to be peeled off. (Whereas the non-Advaita Vedanta path of Ramanuja has said there is only one layer. BUT, the writings of the Six Goswamis actually asked where did the Maya come from - us or Lord Vishnu or Shiva or whoever - and if we got rid of it, can it come back?)
When the zen master asks you if you have awakened and you think you have and say "yes" and then he slaps you, you know directly what Maya is and even feels like in space/time. Maya is just a doorway. Fall all the way through. Great explanation Swamij i!!!
Time (kal) is the ultimate maya. It forms the "closed circle mind" within which the jiva (kala) circles birth after birth (niyoti) due to false sense of knowledge (vidya) and emotions (raga) i.e. pancha konchuk. Meditation break down time to its most infinitesimal division crossing which the mind with all its stuff (emotion, intelligence, feeling etc which are nothing more than subtle vibrations and hence time bound) vanishes liberating the jiva.
If I plant a garden and then die. I won't be reborn because I have to inherit my garden. I'll be reborn because I confuse the Self to be a gardener.
The I consciousness (jiva) is intricately intertwined with the apparent external universe, both being formed simultaneously by different attributes of time (sense organs of the jiva and the five mahabhutas which is perceived by these as forming the external reality). That is why it is stressed that getting rid of the I is so very important in the process of realizing the true Self or Brahma. But it is not easy due to vikshep shakti (outward motion of energy during its workable manifestation) which keeps the infinitesimal divisions of time appear as continuous external world. Only powerful inward withdrawal with detachment from external world can gradually sever this falsely appearing continuum
@@GRay-fp2kb The jiva is a thought. Although it is said to responsible for liberating itself, the thing it's responsible for is falsely believing itself to be responsible. The nature of mind/ego is control.
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5:50. Divinity oriented Vidya maya ; ignorance based avidya maya
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It’s a very meaningful question, to become truly free you have to let go the path which brought you to this realization! It’s all a play of the mind. ❤
When one reaches d destination i.e universal truth..then d attachment to d path itself sheds away..it wont matter anymore..Infact nothing will matter any more..
A while ago, I was contemplating existence and more specifically my existence. Eventually as scanned through mind's wonderings and I stopped to investigate a thought: Maya is Brahman and Brahman is Maya. From then, my prospective evolved just tad bit more, but ultimately it was inevitably circular - however, I still haven't found the words or phrases to make that thought digestible outside of myself. If only I knew.
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Namaste,
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Maya is the inherent power of brahman, so one can say maya is brahman, but we cannot say brahman is maya. Brahman ‘as such’ is attributeless, thus 'powerless'. Maya is the power of brahman to appear as though with attributes. Maya power is name form and utility attributes that appear in brahman.
The analogy of clay and pot is used to bring out clarity.
Like clay and pot. Clay is attributeless, but the pot has name, form, and utility. Substantially, there is only clay, pot is an empty word signifying only name, form and utility of clay. Clay is independent existence. Pot is a dependent existence dependant on clay. Pot is, when and because clay is. Clay is, regardless of whether pot is or not (say broken). Wherever you touch on the pot is clay. The pot does not weigh even 1 gram more than the clay from which it is made. The form, name and utility has not added a single gram tto the weight of clay in the pot. I can show you a substance called clay, but I cannot show you a substance called either name or form or utility/ Name, form and Utility are empty words. Yet they are all clay. Clay is none of these.
It may seem circular, but it is not. It is not a free fall down a bottom less pit. You will hit ground and the ground is brahman.
Everything is deniable and denied, except thee ground on which the ‘things’ need to be grounded on.
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Beautiful... experience AND freedom in simply being.
न चैकं तदन्यद् द्वितीयं कुतः स्यात्
न केवलत्वं न चाकेवलत्वम् ।
न शून्यं न चाशून्यमद्वैतकत्वात्
कथं सर्ववेदान्तसिद्धं ब्रवीमि ॥
Swami's lectures are wisdom personified. Blessed are we, to listen to such great disclosures.
Beautiful answer!! Quoting Madukya upanishads to answer this question was apt. The enlightened will know that there is nobody who is enlightened. Just like a thorn is used to remove another thorn and then both discarded, Vidhya Maya is used to remove Avidya Maya and both are discarded. Pranams .
True gems are here in this channel. Thank you so much Swami and thank you all the listeners. It's reall Very sad thing that this kind of channel is not having 1 cr subscription. Imagine what kind of content people of India are going through
I resonate with ur words....really where are 1 crore like subscription going towards wen we Indians have so much rich vedas and spiritual content to enlighten us...isn't all this more important than other aspects in life actually only this is most important than other things in life.....
@@Geetanjali-inspired it's really impact of maya.... Trust me i tried very hard to aware about these things ( to know why we exist) to people but less than 1 percent people want to know.. Others are literally hypnotized by maya... They die but they don't even question nor they curious about existence
Google Bhagwad Geeta 7/3.
It's because most of the Indians prefer Hindi or regional lectures. Though they're interested in these topics but listening to mother language keeps attention and curiosity.
@@arjunvakil3287 yes brother really agree with u ..true very true... i too have seen in and around me less than 1 percent are interested in spiritual aspect more on material worldly acquisitions...yes maya deep effect of maya...only wen calamity strikes or suffering in material world or for few old age wisdom sets in do they turn towards bhagwat geeta for wisdom or solace yet pleasantly on other hand I have seen youth fervently into spiritual aspect to quote some see his holiness amrendra iskcon...also see kabir cafe youth also see sadho band young boys I am glad many many such youth have taken timely spiritual path.. actually once we go spiritual it automatically will empower all of us in acquiring watever our hearts desire in materialworld too...otherwise too it will give us immense bliss contentment to surf in this world ocean smoothly....also one must follow youth sessions of hita ambrish ji....or mukundanandji or sarvapriyanandaji....🙏
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Experience of nature.. Freedom of nature... Striking....
Freedom *from nature
Strike me and i forgot about preposition... 🙏thank you🙏
Swami ji sarvapriyanandaji...I bow to you....your depth of explaining us nature of prakriti and moksha...Vidya n avidya...everything u explain... what trap maya can give us and at the same time freedom too is enveloped in Maya...both freedom mokha are intertwined finely woven one must be able to unveil....so much explanation with such clarity only swami ji u can give us all we mere materialistic trapped humans are highly indebted to knowledge that u impart to us all....we part by part try shedding this dualistic material aspects hearing n learning from u n gradually turning towards advaita non dualistic approach of life...thank u swami ji to help me n all people with all ur deep profound divine so simplistic way of explaining us all on vedanta thank u bowing to u thank u revered swami ji thank u so much my life transitions from material to nondualistic pathways for everything indebted to ur teachings....thank u thank u 🙏
Thank you Swamiji. Thank God for Holy company 🙏🕉️
Fun little summary but I think Swami skipped the "hard question of self realization", which was asked, namely what if all this "going beyond sentimentality, materiality etc" is just another level of sentimentality and materiality with it's own delusions, for example the delusion that all is Brahman. Almost like an atheist critique of religion "this is all just opium", but meta, next level post-realization atheism :)
No, the rise of Jnana by the grace of Lord VISHNU is REAL
This one video is powerful enough for liberation
swamiji please visit northeast and drive us out of ignorance.. This part of the country is suffering all sorts of evil, hate and crimes due to zero spiritual awareness
He is in America bro
What an amazing explanation!
Na Dharmo Na Charto Na Kamo Na Mokshaha
Pranam to Sri Thakurji and to all
I am tempted at all times to first attend your vdos Swami ji🙏🏼…even if I am running out of time😊…it helps me for future course of action 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼💐in a very smooth way …
Through enquiry Maya becomes more and more transparent and turns into Knowledge. Knowledge is thus born of Maya and is therefore said to be the daughter of Maya. In the last days of enquiry Maya brings forth the Knowledge necessary for her own destruction. Thus, mother Maya is burned to ashes by her own daughter.
I like that. Maya gives knowledge of her own destruction.
What is the real after all?
All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. BH.
Someone thought they got a clever question to find a loophole in non-dualism philosophy but Swamiji is facing it like a free-hit in Cricket.😀🤣
Haha....if self realisation is Maya... Thn I better be mayawadi... Bcoz after self realisation I automatically gave up materialistic desires... Without even reading scriptures...
The purpose of Maya is love.
The purpose is surrender
The byproduct is love
This lecture is full of confusion. Whether 'self realization a maya' regarding this he talks about 'vidya and avidya' maya. But self realization transends this kind of bifurcation. This Realization comes not from senses, not from psychological condition. If everything falls in maya, then no talking about the removal of maya doesnot arise.
Please don't spread falls conceptions regarding this REALIZATION'. this is we the people who have now became too much dependent on you like swamijis. So try to do the best thing for everyone. Go for self realization please. Then what was maya and where you were.
But you're not head of the Ramakrishna order,are you? Citation needed for your sources.
I so much agree with you, there are some drawbacks of advait philosophy I feel, that's why bhakti is required to be pursued alongside Gyan. Only knowledge of advait makes u like the answer of swami was. Agree realisation if coming from senses then it's also an object.
If enlightenment is also Maya then it is also like a dream only. If one is realised then it's a sweet dream if one is engrossed in avidhya Maya then probably it's a horror dream . When you wake up both will end( end of this body), so how does it matter if u observe vidhya or avidhya Maya? When u wake up both will end so how does it matter whatever be the taste( sweet/bitter/horror) . It seems to me for the first time that so much of hohoohuhuhahaa about spirituality is not worth. Too much of Advait is depressing
@@winteriscoming7493 Enlightenment is maya, as Swamiji said, this is the higher truth. This is the experience of those you reached that state imo. Like I can say, that I am already enlightened. Sure. Is this just a saying for me, just intellectual knowledge, jnana, or a true experience, vijnana. If its just jnana, then I move towards vidhya maya from avidya maya. Then i pray to God, even though he/she is only maya as well. Even Sri Ramakrishna use to say: as long as I experience myself as body/mind, I should practice bhakti as well.
@@zotharr question was whether self-realization a maya. Here swamiji replied 'yes it is'. And this is wrong from all perspective. Self realization never has been any part of 'vidya' or 'avidya' maya.
I am no part of this family. I am a sadhaka doing sadhana. Bokkish lecture not always works..
@@josef2012 if it addresses me, i strongly admit that, i belong to no 'sect'. I live on my own, trying to live a spiritul life with 'no lectures'. I only knew there is a goal little far from me and i am approaching that with true blessings of god.
I had the similar question, now its clear. Thanks swamiji!
Very powerful video. Most ultimate philosophy explained so amazingly, thank you swamiji 🙏 this video helped me a lot!!
Beautifully answered!
Brahman alone exists. Maya is just the belief, misconception, and misunderstanding that something else exists.
A beautiful self realized soul can witness the presence in the current moment against the backdrop of infinite darkness and can experience everything as a movie.
This magical creation by the self unfolds every moment for one to experience and cherish.
Listening and observing deeply within can bring the experience for a self realized human being to witness this paradise.
There is no limit to this experiences as there are no boundaries if one’s consciousness is merged into the eternal consciousness.
Therefore, every moment the magic unfolds in front of this beautiful soul to experience, cherish and repeat in the world of infinite possibilities.
A sudden sadness and dread has enveloped me. How long will this confusion last? Is there ever a chance to reach a state where this existential dread is no longer present?
Who is this me? You are beyond sadness and pleasure !
Happens to me often. All I can do is tell myself a very true fact. It will pass. It is temporary. And this implies the good states will also pass and is temporary too... while this seems depressing actually there is a peace there. I think at the end of the day we are not looking for good times and pleasure we are really wanting deep peace. We are not the happy or sad or dreadful states, we are the one who notices these passing states. This is the truth. Maya will pull you hard to get involved on the pleasures and dread of life.. try to stay in the truth. The awareness
The peace
And your mind will slowly calm down and still like deep relaxation.
Do this for as long as it takes. Be it days or years. Persist
I can’t vouch for that dread no longer being present, but one thing that helps me a lot during such times is turning a witness to these experiences….once you become your own witness then any state will stop affecting you…. they’ll come and go yet you won’t bother….it’ll just be a part of life. Just go with the flow and things will fall into place….just have faith things will work out eventually and be in absolutely no hurry…
Thanks for the replies! Yes, the knowledge is there but the application is missing from my side.
@@asofotida443 yes, this phase is like the final exam which may take years (and lives), and that’s why realisation seems tough practically even though it seems easy theoretically. I have the same problem and a lot of times I feel like giving up but with all the knowledge it definitely is becoming manageable enough to keep going. One day we will get there for sure, cheers 🌺
Swami Vivekananda say Although man cannot know the nature of this illusive Maya it can however transcend it And beyond it Without a name form of stan In Him is Maya dreaming all this dream The Witness He appears as soul Nature
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Whats the point of this self realization when the one (jiva) who needs to achieve it is itself a product of maya -- brahman/atman covered under specific mayic upadhis makes manifestation as jiva possible ? Brahman is in no need of this self realization. If jiva ceases to exist the moment self realization dawns then this self realization itself ceases to exist because the one who became realized itself does not exist anymore. Who has this self realization then and whats the point ?
Besides why in the first place would Brahman described as shudha chaitanya which has no relation to anyone, no desire etc (refer mandukya definition of Turiya and other similar statements in upanisads) ... get into the business of manifestation as diversity constituting of names and forms imposed on one indivisible absolute atman of nature of bliss, existence and consciousness via agency of maya ?
Is maya another real principle like Brahman ? Is maya Brahman under specific upadhis ? If maya is Brahman under specific upadhis, then what is the source/cause of those upadhis ? Also, what is real nature of that source then ? This will go into infinite regress. When pushed into corner in this way Advaitins say maya is sat asat vilakshan (neither real nor unreal) and it is anirvacinya (inconceivable). To people who use common sense and reason none of this makes sense. Hence most other acharyas have vehemently disagreed with Sri Sankara's advaita vedanta interpretation of Prashan traya.
Enlightenment is when all the nonsensical guru nonsense becomes the only sensical thing. And when all sensical things in turn become the nonsense.
It's a complete switch.
But we're very good at doing partial switches.
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Om To be Quite&Serene by All means,is to Know VIDYA MAYA AND AVIDYA MAY, That's All.Hari Om.
Invaluable...🙏
Sankaracharya say Maya is neither absolutely existent nor nonexistent nor does it partake of both characters it is most wonderful and nature cannot be defined it can be destroyed by the realisation of pure Brahman the one without a second
So from what I understand, avidya Maya can be equated to instincts, Vidya Maya to intellect/knowledge and ultimately liberation to intuition/wisdom…
Music to my ears. 🎼🎶🎸
Thakur told Swami Premananda... keep low and be humble...
reminds me of Nagarjuna's Mulamadhyamakakarika
True
Sounds like the diamond sutra.
Infinitely best!🙏🙏🙏
So why aren't people clapping after this explanation ?
🙏 Cleared my long standing doubts. 🙏
Swamiji, is it difficult to retain body after self realisation
Great question, wonderful insight! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Maya who know the maya play with the maya and who do not know the maya, the maya play with that maya.
I may be wrong, but my perception is, the endgoal of Advaita Vedanta is to convince us that, our life and our actions (karma) is a meaningless pursuit, and thus it leads to nihilism, and subsequently leads to suicide..
Nihilism is what Buddhists try to achieve
In case of Adwaita its completeness
Disagree. Life is not simply images or like movies. Not true. If true why,Krisna ask Arjuna to fight? What Arjuna saw in Kurusetra was real, thats why Krisna intruct Arjuna to act. What is not real on earth is You, because you are not suppose to be here. Earth is not your purvika, you are the intruder in this part of universe.
Are you an iskCONite just asking
This question is not even worth investing any mental energy into.
Superb explanation of sankhya philosophy.
Plz make more videos on sankhya and other philosophies.
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🙏🙏🙏pranam Maharaj thank you so much
None of this ppl can do anything supernatural or anything extraordinary , Why should we listen to them.
Who is forcing you to? Go seek your miracles.
Yato vaacha nivartante appraaya Manasa Saha
nicely explained
Freedom from nature... experience of nature !!!
Maya is a diversion to reach the ultimate goal which an individual decide.
The ultimate goal is the individual to decide? Am I understanding what you wrote as you intended?
Go listen to UG KRISHNAMURTI. all this shit will fall off
Ok so don't shit here.
Pranaam Swami Saravpriyananda ji
PRONAM MAHARAJ.