I think it might be because they don’t look as steep as what you’d normally see in a typical sent of stairs, makes them more accessible for carrying things up them but also more bouncy without that support
As a professional carpenter as well as a professional house framer of 30 yrs, This is 100% accurate and some really good info for those who need it. Good job guy!
@MyUnquenchableThirst you can put pressure treated wood ontop of concrete but otherwise you should really be using a vapor barrier. Exterior walls need it regardless for air sealing. Concrete has a high alkalinity and can rot the wood over time so why take the risk? Do you and/or your customers a service and lay down a barrier.
So... exactly WHY did you build the without support in the first place? My only thought was it would give you an opportunity to make this video for clicks
If you were ever going to build a wall in the basement, this is the exact steps you take to do it spot on step-by-step word for word. Absolutely correct. Great job!
@@hausplans yeah I learned this trick 20 years ago. The hard way , iwas framing the wall in the basement. I was like, piece of cake to realize that the distance from cieling to the floor can vary along the length of your wall making it not fit. In some cases, we call it stick framing is the most accurate way.
I like the extra side cuts on the under stair board. Super clean, going above and beyond to make it not only very strong but also very pleasing to the eyes. Well done 👍🏼
Yeah it seems a little bit unnecessary but it's one of those things that people who know what they are looking at will appreciate and everybody else will sort of have an understanding that things in that house are built a little bit better even if they don't know why.
I'm not a carpenter or anything, but these videos are very interesting and informative on some things that I may even find myself engaging in sometime in the future.
I'm a finish carpenter. I took a stair framing class years ago. All the students had to frame a small set of stairs with a landing in the middle. Almost every student's stairs, including mine, looked like crap. One guy's was perfect, we couldn't figure out why he was in the class. LOL! I've used most brands of miter saws, in the field the 12", dual bevel Dewalt is the best, imo.
I second the dewalt. It is by far the best to keep straight and stay In line. They all have there own little nuances to get good cuts but dewalt has the least imo
@@keithtreisch6890 No doubt the Kapex would be great for trim work but who wants to leave a $1600 saw on a jobsite overnight or pack it in your truck every day? One reason I like the Dewalt is for the bevel lock knob. It's big and locks securely with not much turning. I have a Makita LS1219L in my garage, nice saw but the bevel lock knob feels loose and junky and requires quite a few turns to lock it.
@ThekiBoran yep 10-4. I feel the same way. I prefer the dewalt mitre saws. Used a lot of brands and they usually are the most reliable for cutting compounds etc. The dual compound is awesome I def. Think it's a must for any trim carpenter no matter the brand , Crown moulding etc. Fun stuff. And to each there own !
@@ThekiBoran I worked with an engineer who used engineer tools to work wood...(sandpaper out, flapper disc on an angle grinder...in!) He bought that beautiful De Walt and the extension legs etc for it, Every night it was disassembled, placed in his van and taken home. In the morning it came back to the jobsite. Seeing as how he was 6ft 6 and used to be a.50 BMG gunner who had to hump that around...he had no problem with the De Walt.... he also used a Miller Wood Welder....amazing man!
@@cam58161st floor and 2nd floor fire separation is really important, and stairs without a fire wall are a huge weak point. The house can go up like a tinderbox if there was a fire on the first floor and not proper separation via your framing/cladding - and residents are usually sleeping on the second floor.
It's so sweet to squeeze the steps into the treated beams: you saw where the steps are supposed to stay, both the ends and the space between them, and you chisel the thin tabs out. You can bolt and glue the steps after. The structural support is enormous, you literally need to bend a long 2x6 by standing on it... not a chance
I actually just had that convo with my teen the other day. The complaint about learning a unit, then taking the test and moving on to the next unit. I told them if they were actually taught the application of the math and why you need to know the formulas it would help them remember and learn more easily. The things I’ve actually put to use over the years helped me make more sense of the math I was taught.
Geometry. I started these concepts with my elementary students and it continues through to Geometry. There also can be algebraic concepts used in construction.
@@robertepley4339pressure treated isn’t gonna stop the moisture building up between the wood and the concrete(concrete sweats a lot too) it won’t last all that long
He's the new guy. Doesn't really do the best work (if any) and likes to give orders to everyone. No one says anything for obvious reasons, though. I mean, would you want to possibly risk your safety for telling him something that he may take the wrong way? Not me, at least.
@@Bullet44 Yea he looks serious and likes to bark orders. He is always in the dog house with the old man. He told me he goes for walks and tired of being on the short leash. It's not going to get better because the dog days of summer are here.
Im not sure I seen this guys content but I know theres chichi Charlie and they too are cute lol I like this little guys red helmet. to be fair any dogs doing human tasks makes me laugh
They are called “strong backs”. They suck. This is FAR better. When I first started building decks and stairs, my boss would always tell me to do the strong backs when some stairs were long and bouncy. I did it about three times. Every single time I ended up having to drop some posts in the middle of the run. I never experienced strong backs make a significant difference. Maybe if you have like 7-9 stairs, and just a little bounce, but it won’t be as solid as what this guy did. I have never done strong backs since. It takes about the same time as doing it right like in the video.
Get your cdl. Many different types of companies are desperate for drivers, and you'll make at least $70k to start. It's easy to break into the 6 figure range with lots of ot once you get a little experience. Or you can make that from the jump. It just depends on many factors, but you will be making great cash regardless. The beauty of it is that there are many many different types of trucking jobs as well to fit your personality and work type. It's really not as difficult as your mind may make it out to be.
The bounce makes me remember of the old hut in the Alps I used to go to with my family back when I was little. Basically most of it was wood, and the stairs also were kinda bouncy. But it all was quality work, from more than 100 years ago
Spent three days at all the lowes and home depots within a fifty mile radius looking for masonary screws. Finally gave up and went with masonry screws. Hope they work.
Wow! Somebody on the internet actually did something completely correctly and did a good job!
Close, screws don't stop squeaks, it just takes longer to squeak than nails. Silicone adhesive will stop squeaks forever!
We always used glue to eliminate squeaks, if you had to go back and change something, was a pain in the azz getting it apart.
Minus the lack of adhesive and who knows of those were structural screws...nails are still king.
No nailer for the sheetrock
@@bigcountryjd Yup, he forgot the backing, and glue!
Damn, those things were built up pretty well too. I’m surprised they bounce as much as they do. Love watching!
Surprised...It's was no support.
Thanks
I think it might be because they don’t look as steep as what you’d normally see in a typical sent of stairs, makes them more accessible for carrying things up them but also more bouncy without that support
Long spans have bounce especially when they have no little load.
@@hausplanscan't you just screw the studs to the stringers? Why do you need a top plate?
As a professional carpenter as well as a professional house framer of 30 yrs, This is 100% accurate and some really good info for those who need it. Good job guy!
Wow, thanks!
There should also be a vapor barrier between the 2x4 & the concrete floor. Wood should never touch concrete!
@@LatmaTVulpanstudent i agree! At least pressure treated.
@@LatmaTVulpanstudent never? Like never? I'm incredulous because I screw wood to concrete twice a week with just tapcons
@MyUnquenchableThirst you can put pressure treated wood ontop of concrete but otherwise you should really be using a vapor barrier. Exterior walls need it regardless for air sealing. Concrete has a high alkalinity and can rot the wood over time so why take the risk? Do you and/or your customers a service and lay down a barrier.
The perfect DIY video. No yapping. Just straight up what you did and how you did it.
Thanks
You know it was done well when that BEAST walked down at the end without a flex!!!
haha great comment mate!! 😂 thanks for the laugh, needed it. cheers from finland!
Chihuahua POWER ! FOLKS😅
@@Nakkiteline nakkivene
This is THE comment 😂
No fluff, no time padding, just helpful content and fine work. Exactly as it should be. Instantly subbed.
thank you!
Same here was a clean explanation and clean cuts and no BS. Definitely subbed.
Not sure about that. Little fluff at the end with a helmet on
@@rib6483They can keep that fluff coming!
@@rib6483 yes! Bravo 👏👏👏
I love how the supervisor was checking your work at end of video😂😂😂 APPROVED!!!
🦺🐶😂
Thats Mr. George lol
@@theItalianshamrock lol
Awesome!
And the OSHA supervisor was wearing his hard hat. Even better.
Finally someone using pressure treated wood for ground/cement contact!!!!!! Excellent
Thanks 👍
It’s building code in the IRC
@@louisavila9450 it’s code damn near everywhere, but these TH-cam videos rarely show work that’s up to code….. this was great!
So... exactly WHY did you build the without support in the first place? My only thought was it would give you an opportunity to make this video for clicks
@@TonyM1961 architects are not builders
If you were ever going to build a wall in the basement, this is the exact steps you take to do it spot on step-by-step word for word. Absolutely correct. Great job!
Thanks
@@hausplans yeah I learned this trick 20 years ago. The hard way , iwas framing the wall in the basement. I was like, piece of cake to realize that the distance from cieling to the floor can vary along the length of your wall making it not fit. In some cases, we call it stick framing is the most accurate way.
When we frame on basement slabs we stretch a string across the top and measure each stud
The bevel on the cross piece was not necessary. But absolutely improved the aesthetic look when the edges of it and the verticals match
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It makes the drywallers job easier doesn't it?
Then it was
Did he rip a 2x6 to do that?
@@kirnzy7836i was thinking that too, I think so.
That support wall will also allow for two individual storage closets! Awesome
Or to house a orphan wizard.
@@WeItenspinner Nah. Harry's cupboard had no support, it was moving too much with Dudley's stomps...
Or just a little space to go in, crouch, and scream, "NNNYYEEHHHHHH!!"
Could be made into a playhouse for the kids.
It's always nice to see people perform quality work.
Thanks
I like the extra side cuts on the under stair board. Super clean, going above and beyond to make it not only very strong but also very pleasing to the eyes. Well done 👍🏼
Yeah it seems a little bit unnecessary but it's one of those things that people who know what they are looking at will appreciate and everybody else will sort of have an understanding that things in that house are built a little bit better even if they don't know why.
I'm not a carpenter or anything, but these videos are very interesting and informative on some things that I may even find myself engaging in sometime in the future.
I really appreciate that you explained what you're doing, what materials you use, how you're doing it, and why.
Thanks
I'm a finish carpenter. I took a stair framing class years ago. All the students had to frame a small set of stairs with a landing in the middle. Almost every student's stairs, including mine, looked like crap. One guy's was perfect, we couldn't figure out why he was in the class. LOL!
I've used most brands of miter saws, in the field the 12", dual bevel Dewalt is the best, imo.
That guy was probably sent by his employer, because they send everyone they hire.
FWIW I use a double bevel 12" DeWalt saw myself.
I second the dewalt. It is by far the best to keep straight and stay In line. They all have there own little nuances to get good cuts but dewalt has the least imo
@@keithtreisch6890
No doubt the Kapex would be great for trim work but who wants to leave a $1600 saw on a jobsite overnight or pack it in your truck every day?
One reason I like the Dewalt is for the bevel lock knob. It's big and locks securely with not much turning. I have a Makita LS1219L in my garage, nice saw but the bevel lock knob feels loose and junky and requires quite a few turns to lock it.
@ThekiBoran yep 10-4. I feel the same way. I prefer the dewalt mitre saws. Used a lot of brands and they usually are the most reliable for cutting compounds etc. The dual compound is awesome I def. Think it's a must for any trim carpenter no matter the brand , Crown moulding etc. Fun stuff. And to each there own !
@@ThekiBoran
I worked with an engineer who used engineer tools to work wood...(sandpaper out, flapper disc on an angle grinder...in!)
He bought that beautiful De Walt and the extension legs etc for it,
Every night it was disassembled, placed in his van and taken home.
In the morning it came back to the jobsite.
Seeing as how he was 6ft 6 and used to be a.50 BMG gunner who had to hump that around...he had no problem with the De Walt....
he also used a Miller Wood Welder....amazing man!
Absolutely love the simple explanation of steps. Not too fast or slow.
The bevel on that stringer is perfect! True craftsmanship.
Bonus storage locker under the stairs too! Nice.
Pretty sure a 1hr firewall is required under the stairs
@@johnypitman2368a what?
Edit: why?
@@cam58161st floor and 2nd floor fire separation is really important, and stairs without a fire wall are a huge weak point. The house can go up like a tinderbox if there was a fire on the first floor and not proper separation via your framing/cladding - and residents are usually sleeping on the second floor.
@@johnypitman2368 Firewall is required if the area under the stairs is enclosed.
@@TreeStump-and-CheeseKetchupIT yes
I think your little dog is a key aspect of the video. Bravo!
That's not a little dog. That's a "guard dog".
That's the new guy
It's so sweet to squeeze the steps into the treated beams: you saw where the steps are supposed to stay, both the ends and the space between them, and you chisel the thin tabs out. You can bolt and glue the steps after. The structural support is enormous, you literally need to bend a long 2x6 by standing on it... not a chance
Lining the studs up with the stringers is a nice touch
Thanks
Math class would actually be fun and useful if we learn these things
You do in geometry class that’s basic 10th grade math
I actually just had that convo with my teen the other day. The complaint about learning a unit, then taking the test and moving on to the next unit. I told them if they were actually taught the application of the math and why you need to know the formulas it would help them remember and learn more easily. The things I’ve actually put to use over the years helped me make more sense of the math I was taught.
Your comment is both enlightening and heartbreaking at the same time. It tells us that they're not teaching you this in school which is heartbreaking.
You just have a shitty teacher or a shotty brain sorry
Geometry. I started these concepts with my elementary students and it continues through to Geometry. There also can be algebraic concepts used in construction.
Such a pleasant change of pace to see a guy on TH-cam who actually knows what hes doing.
Even with PT wood you may want to add a sill plate gasket underneath before you lag it down to the concrete.
Bottom plate is pressure treated, but extra protection is never a bad thing ! Great comment !😊
@@robertepley4339pressure treated isn’t gonna stop the moisture building up between the wood and the concrete(concrete sweats a lot too) it won’t last all that long
Here in Ontario it's illegal to use PT wood indoors. We would need to use Blue wood instead
The bottom board is pressure-treated and rated to make direct contact with the concrete. Also, this concrete slab has a moisture barrier below it.
@@hausplanshe would have known that if he was following along!
I don't know a ton about this subject but your work looks great to me!
I appreciate that!
+1 for humility and self-awareness. Cheers, fellow human.
One of the few videos that actually show you how to do it.
That dog is so cute with the hard hat lol
I Agree ; We need More Puppy 8 - )
He's the new guy. Doesn't really do the best work (if any) and likes to give orders to everyone. No one says anything for obvious reasons, though. I mean, would you want to possibly risk your safety for telling him something that he may take the wrong way? Not me, at least.
@@Bullet44 Yea he looks serious and likes to bark orders. He is always in the dog house with the old man. He told me he goes for walks and tired of being on the short leash. It's not going to get better because the dog days of summer are here.
Im not sure I seen this guys content but I know theres chichi Charlie and they too are cute lol I like this little guys red helmet. to be fair any dogs doing human tasks makes me laugh
The dog at the end 😍
Beautiful! Simple, precise, no outrageously expensive tools. Great explanation and easy to follow. And it's super sturdy!👍👍👍
even showed how to properly use a speed square.
Even got the big dog to come test the stairs and it didn’t bounce, amazing job!
Usually you would have 2x4’s running along the inside of the cut stringers which stiffens them up.
I don't think many know about that. Helps a lot. Easy quality.
They are called “strong backs”. They suck. This is FAR better. When I first started building decks and stairs, my boss would always tell me to do the strong backs when some stairs were long and bouncy. I did it about three times. Every single time I ended up having to drop some posts in the middle of the run. I never experienced strong backs make a significant difference. Maybe if you have like 7-9 stairs, and just a little bounce, but it won’t be as solid as what this guy did. I have never done strong backs since. It takes about the same time as doing it right like in the video.
Clean work, well explained and even the logic behind the steps, no extraneous hock being pedalled.
Impressive very clean and steady install
Thanks 👍
Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks for watching 👍
I took a construction elective in high school and the math was advanced and challenging. Respect to these guys!
I just came here for the doggie 🐶
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When did the new guy become a supervisor? 🐕
This is an excellent tutorial.
On top of this idea, those spaces under stairs like this, i always want to frame in, to make closets/storage
We just posted a video finishing out that space
Learned everything he knows from watching Diaz videos.
Can you do a repair like this but to my life
Based comment
Get your cdl. Many different types of companies are desperate for drivers, and you'll make at least $70k to start. It's easy to break into the 6 figure range with lots of ot once you get a little experience. Or you can make that from the jump. It just depends on many factors, but you will be making great cash regardless. The beauty of it is that there are many many different types of trucking jobs as well to fit your personality and work type. It's really not as difficult as your mind may make it out to be.
@@Bullet44That’s always my advice to people.
Consider a "support" group. lol
Subscribed. I wish more people made clean, lean videos like this. Thank you.
Thanks for the sub
Masonary? That what happens when a missionary and a mason get together?
😂 I realized, I mispronounced the word after I posted
@@hausplans It's ok. I know many Masons that actually say it that way. (even though it makes me crazy)
it took entirely too long for me to find someone else who caught this too
you could have simply reinforced the stringers .. no wall needed..
Yeah but have you seen the rest of this build? He's going overboard on everything
@@kaydotzbetter to be safe than to be dead am i right
i will never complain about too much support, lol. you could pull a car motor with those stairs.
So satisfying
Damn when you lifted that first stud up and it lined up perfectly! love it!
I do alot of construction, but I can really learn more by watching thing like this from other people.
Thanks for watching
Looks so easy. I could probably try that all day and would never get that correct angle. Amazing 👏👏
I wouldn’t sell yourself short
I love watching people do stuff like this I find it cathartic
Above and beyond,with that bevel ,nice work
Well you did something right. No comments anywhere harping on your work.
Excellent job with easy to understand steps. Thanks.
Thanks for watching
I don’t own any tools or know anything about carpentry but this video was cool! And makes working with wood look very interesting
Thanks
I can't even hammer a nail in straight, I've lots of respect for this fella. A real craftsman
This video is the best to help with a semi beginner who doesn’t have a whole lot of vocab in this trade! Thank you so much!
Thanks for watching
Except he says masonary, which is not a word. It's masonry. hehe
The bounce makes me remember of the old hut in the Alps I used to go to with my family back when I was little. Basically most of it was wood, and the stairs also were kinda bouncy. But it all was quality work, from more than 100 years ago
Not one cut was off.. nor guessed.. all work was neat and professional.. that is a real carpenter..!
. . . wow - what an outstanding marvel of ingenuity !
So very well done, now that IS a craftsman!
As a journeyman Carpenter. In Framing carpentry, Stairs and Roofs, are the most complicated to learn. The "Tri-Square" is your most valuable tool!
Glad to see this. Practical and helpful. Smart carpenter!
Thanks
What a crazy precision! On my market saw angle accuracy is +-5 deg :D
Bom trabalho.
Gostei muito das ferramentas....
Magnificent very impressed. Wonderful job😊
That's a great solution! I love your precision.
Thanks!
i love seeing a post that doesnt enrage me, great work!
I appreciate that!
Good stuff. Cute dog. Thanks.
had to watch more than once, glad atleast I understand a speed square a bit more now, always struggled with angles like that
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Tbose angels lined up so nice! Now let's see the storage solutions for underneath 😊
Such precision- excellent
Awesome work brother love the “new guy” don’t forget though “glue and screw” (proper adhesive and fasteners) but phenomenal work.
Very nice work. The only thing to add is some drywall backer at the wall T.
I love This video because I love wooden work and I'm a dog lover 😃😊😃
And now you know just what is needed .Thanks.
Great step-by-step explanation.
I'm so glad there are people in the world who do these things so I never have to....
you can't believe the feeling of pride when you create something you can physically touch.
Beautiful!!!! 👌🏾 nice work man!
Best video on TH-cam, well done 👏
Wow, thanks 😊
Man, that actually looks great. I like the way you did the angle cut on the top plate
Thanks
I see the new guy is still hard at work! 👍
🦺🐶👍
Nice, it looked quite good to me. I didn't read every comment. But there wasn't a bunch of bashing going on I can tell you that!
Nice job
You know what you are doing.
I can watch this all day
Beautiful work.
I love how this guy goes from massive food to actual construction tips
Spent three days at all the lowes and home depots within a fifty mile radius looking for masonary screws. Finally gave up and went with masonry screws. Hope they work.
not going to lie - that was a clean job
Awesome video. THank you for sharing. Your doggy is sooo cute!!
Thanks for watching, we actually just built him an office under those stairs. Should be posting soon.🐶🦺😊👍
Excellent work ❤
Excellent work!
That was perfection!
Quality work, good job ! 👍💯
This was satisfying to watch
This guy knows his stuff !
_Its good to check before cutting all_
Thats the best line ever.
This is very satisfying to watch
Thanks
I've never liked and subscribed so obediently after seeing their first video
Thanks for the sub!
Perfect job.
Love the dog with the helmet, safety first!
Beautiful measurements
Thanks