Cheese, Catastrophes, & Process Control: Crash Course Engineering #25

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  • Engineering, like life, could really use a lot more cheese. This week we are looking at a cheese factory in Toronto and what it can teach us about process control systems. We’ll explore feedforward and feedback systems, and see how integrating them both with the final check of cascade control creates a system made to handle uncertainty the world throws its way.
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  • @Scott-J
    @Scott-J 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Don't let the view numbers fool you. Crash Course is the sort of long term value that the "old" internet will be remembered for. This sort of free, forever, overview course is brilliant! Your time and effort in producing it is worthwhile. The next Norman Borlaug, or Kurt Vonnegut, or any number of unrecognized engineers will get there start here.

  • @lewisfoster2514
    @lewisfoster2514 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Control Engineer here. I found this episode to be excellent, provides a brief and concise overview of control theory. I have one 'bug bear' you mentioned feedback, feedforward and cascaded but failed to mention PID control, I feel this to be the foundations of control/process control.

    • @ezequielrenovato6608
      @ezequielrenovato6608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would have liked to see split range control as well, great video nonetheless!

    • @baltakatei
      @baltakatei 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Don't want to blow their minds with the dark arts of PID (proportional, integral, and derivative) tuning.

    • @ironsmith9769
      @ironsmith9769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Control engineers were burned at the stake in medieval times for that witchery.

    • @TehSnRuB
      @TehSnRuB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah the mathematics behind PID would have been nice, it's so elegant when explained well.
      Even a mechanical visualisation 🤙

    • @HorzaPanda
      @HorzaPanda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha, yes. I covered that in control theory when doing nuclear physics :D

  • @SomethingStrange1579
    @SomethingStrange1579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wishing everyone a beautiful, productive and safe weekend 🤗🤗🤗

  • @RangerRuby
    @RangerRuby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    So basically, by thinking about what could go wrong, it helps us prepare for it so it won't happen, or at least in a way where we will learn from it.

    • @baltakatei
      @baltakatei 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See also "Layers of Protection Analysis".

    • @s3cr3tpassword
      @s3cr3tpassword 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's more like: 'I don't want to clean up this mess if it goes wrong. What do I need to do to make sure it never goes wrong? '
      Kinda situation

    • @TehSnRuB
      @TehSnRuB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Additional to LOPA, see CHAZOP 😂
      *Hot tip for anyone in attendance - take food and painkillers

  • @NotHPotter
    @NotHPotter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just started the Physics CC. It's interesting comparing the two courses to see the different ways you explain these topics. You do it really well!

  • @ezequielrenovato6608
    @ezequielrenovato6608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I work in a chemical manufacturing plant and all of this applies heavily with the process of making chemicals. Great Video!!!

  • @megs8752
    @megs8752 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m on the path to become a control/PA engineer and this video excites me!
    Cheers from Japan.

  • @TiberiusStorm
    @TiberiusStorm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice! I'm taking a program at College called "Instrumentation & Control Engineering". We learn all about a process (Water tank, DP Transmitter, Rotameter, etc) and have to calibrate it in various situations and in many different ranges (mA or psi). Most people have NO idea what it is I'm studying when I try to explain it. This video is helpful.

  • @soumyaagrawal1758
    @soumyaagrawal1758 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great video, explained in an easy way.

  • @ImagineMedia
    @ImagineMedia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    She's a cool host. I like her. Keep her around and get her more screen time.

  • @Marco_Onyxheart
    @Marco_Onyxheart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always assume imperfections in your sensors. I work with drone software. One of the research groups we work with has drones that use barometers to estimate their altitude. They figured it was a great idea to figure their drones landed when the barometer says the height is 0, and completely shut off the motors. Unfortunately, barometers aren't super accurate, and also can't measure the absolute height above ground. The drones ended up falling down a meter or so, and breaking some parts.

  • @calvinball1
    @calvinball1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this video a lot. I'm thinking about how this applies to software development and specifically test-driven development

  • @angelajaco8268
    @angelajaco8268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Hank and John,
    My name is Angela and I'm a huge fan of everything you do. I've read all John's books (waiting for xmas to read hanks,) listen to the pods, and of course LOVE vlogbrothers. I'm a musician who just recorded my first EP, but am of course still learning. I was wondering if there was a possibility you could do lessons on music theory. It's really interesting but no one has been very good at explaining it, therefore it's still very confusing to me. Thank you so much!

  • @TehSnRuB
    @TehSnRuB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you did very well to explain this simply.
    Great work, I can send this to everyone who has no idea what I do. 😂

  • @qwertyman1511
    @qwertyman1511 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    discussing murphys law often leads to fiery debates.

  • @dan1204hc
    @dan1204hc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can work and research Process Control following the path of Electrical, Computer, Chemical or Mechanical Engineer, each with their own specificities. It's a tough field, where different engineers need to talk to each other to make it work (especially in the chemical industry!!)

  • @nsambataufeeq1748
    @nsambataufeeq1748 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Control Systems Engineering is by far the most interesting part of Mechanical Engineering

  • @HorzaPanda
    @HorzaPanda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did a module on Control Theory as part of my nuclear physics degree, and as Lewis Foster says, PID is important. I thought it might interest people to have a practical example from that:
    In order to keep a nuclear reaction steady, you want a set neutron flux in the reactor, one way to control that is with the control rods. These are materials that absorb neutrons (In a PWR you can also add boron to water, in the form of boric acid)
    Whatever you do as an intervention, there is always going to be some lag between action and effect
    Now, let's say you get a reading that's too high, so you lower the control rods/add more boric acid, you go for a linear approach, so your intervention is directly proportional to your intervention. With this approach, you'll typically overshoot and end up with too low a neutron flux, so you then raise your control rods/take some boric acid out
    Well done, you now have set off an oscillation in your neutron flux, and with a proportional/linear response that can quite easily be one that grows with each iteration. For obvious reasons, that is not a good thing to happen in a nuclear reactor.
    So you use an integral response to that initial deviation. I find it easier to think of this next bit like it's a mechanical system, with a pendulum, with that initial deviation from your norm being analogous to someone pushing your pendulum. You want to dampen that oscillation so it goes back to being steady, which is where an integral response comes in. You want a response that perfectly dampens that oscillation in the minimum possible time, not one like the linear response which is almost like your pushing it as it comes to the end of its swing
    (Note: It's been a while since I've last done this, I might be a little off in places, and I certainly can't remember exactly how to explain how the integral response works in detail)

  • @baltakatei
    @baltakatei 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    06:00 Wouldn't you want to put the steam valve at the outlet of the heat exchanger? Taking a pressure drop at the inlet would decrease the steam density and and temperature due to adiabatic expansion, wouldn't it?

  • @sceptre1067
    @sceptre1067 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    oddly now I want to hear Dr. Shini Somara do the audiobook version of Ignition by Clark on rocket propellants

  • @050zaher
    @050zaher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome

  • @tarasgirnyk8245
    @tarasgirnyk8245 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As obvious it might be to "decrease steam flow if something is too hot" it's not always the case. In reality steam is generated somewhere using the power of either engine that is cooled by this very same oil or a battery, that - guess what - is charged by the same engine..
    I think it also should be mentioned that the whole process operates under assumption that a) desired behavior is at least marginally stable b) either globally stable or at least has a decent stability region

  • @thinker8682
    @thinker8682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another episode about a subject from the field of chemical engineering. Most episodes so far are about chemical engineering.

  • @unleashingpotential-psycho9433
    @unleashingpotential-psycho9433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A lot of people are going to eat cheese after this video.

  • @6alecapristrudel
    @6alecapristrudel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simple solution for Murphy's law: intend for everything to go wrong, that way nothing will.

    • @TiberiusStorm
      @TiberiusStorm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope for the best but expect the worst!

  • @SaberusTerras
    @SaberusTerras 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The engineer cleaning up the spilled milk was crying. She should know that's nothing to cry about... Nice joke, Thought Cafe.

  • @BushidoGameRealm
    @BushidoGameRealm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey just wondering if u can make a video about cowboys era or if u had it already lmk i would like to check it thanks

  • @RSderpy
    @RSderpy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    TELL ME HOW TO COMPUTE TRANSFER FUNCTIONS!

  • @jeffthegangster6065
    @jeffthegangster6065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love from spain crash course

  • @gabedarrett1301
    @gabedarrett1301 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about PID loops?

  • @pieter1102
    @pieter1102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Murphy's Law: if something can go wrong, it will.
    Murphy's Second Law: if more than one thing can go wrong, the thing that causes the greatest damage will go wrong.
    Murphy's Third Law (also known as Sod's Law in Britain): Murphy was an optimist.
    By limiting yourself to the first law, you kept it at a nice and basic level. I expect a separate episode on the other laws!

  • @Anonarchist
    @Anonarchist 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know about spontaneous combustion, but more than one calculator has burst into flames due to my actions.

  • @charityv570
    @charityv570 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!!

  • @janschilling8364
    @janschilling8364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀CHEEEEEEEESE

  • @leoarenque9917
    @leoarenque9917 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I see people with cheese on their heads I remember GB Packers fans

  • @WildEngineering
    @WildEngineering 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    PIDs what? lol

    • @Theblueraajaa
      @Theblueraajaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Proportional
      Integral
      Derivative

    • @CH-tv1cy
      @CH-tv1cy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pee In Doodle

  • @Danilego
    @Danilego 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:19 Thanos approves

  • @TheMrPandaMaster
    @TheMrPandaMaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wisconsin thumbnail?

  • @freakingdudes2205
    @freakingdudes2205 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The example about the calculater is flawed because the law states that anything that can go wrong and a calculator is not made up of materials supporting spontaneous combustion

  • @CandLProd
    @CandLProd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Go Pack Go 🧀🧀🧀

    • @ToddThiner
      @ToddThiner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      CandLProd packers suck

  • @irwainnornossa4605
    @irwainnornossa4605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    298 K in my room? Do you want to boil me? Who would do that?
    294, 295 max is the best.

  • @eproulx
    @eproulx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Around the 3 minutes 40 seconds mark there's a typo

    • @eproulx
      @eproulx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish there was some kind of process to control the quality of the text

    • @idndyzgaming
      @idndyzgaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eproulx Nice play on words.

  • @trumanshow162
    @trumanshow162 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Process control will be vital tech as related ( peripheral ) technology when we use AI as a main ( core, hub ) technology.
    It is important for us not to create the worst threat to humanity 😱,
    as well as biotechnology ( or bionics ) or applied informatics to help AI save the human civilization 🌈.
    I was reminded that technology is a double-edged sword and the more it’s useful, the more it must be treated carefully.

  • @thinker8682
    @thinker8682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I can't skip ads now? Ok, wow YouYube

  • @TheSUPERHAPPY1
    @TheSUPERHAPPY1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch “Dairy is Scary” on youtube 🧀

  • @Jason-bi1em
    @Jason-bi1em 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet, I didn't have to go through my assigned reading because of this haha

  • @AnitaBetterScreenname
    @AnitaBetterScreenname 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Importantly, the 1st amendment to Murphy's law is ..."at the worst possible moment."

  • @rparl
    @rparl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mention hunting, where the controls keep pushing the system too far in opposite directions.

  • @baltakatei
    @baltakatei 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    😍😍😍

  • @kimon114
    @kimon114 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You bet you gorgeous dark eyes, Murphy's law rules!!

  • @lizardstreet4297
    @lizardstreet4297 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Сделайте пожалуйста видео ускоренного курса про Украину, безумно интересно что скажут об этом ваши историки

  • @geoffmelnick1472
    @geoffmelnick1472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 3:41 "its" not "it's".

  • @oldcowbb
    @oldcowbb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    just stay out of my right half plane

  • @JeeWeeD
    @JeeWeeD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "it's controlled variables"? Keep paying attention to your writing, people! ;-)

  • @vicenterivera188
    @vicenterivera188 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheese heads! Go Packers!

  • @candleduck9339
    @candleduck9339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a crash course on cheese, watch “Dairy is Scary” on yt

  • @DougOfTheAntarctic
    @DougOfTheAntarctic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thumbs up for unapologetic use of the Metric System at 3:49!

  • @wisco_simple
    @wisco_simple 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    cheese heads

  • @ryze5431
    @ryze5431 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

  • @darknightexex
    @darknightexex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why are crash course views less that stupid meme compilations ?

  • @ToddThiner
    @ToddThiner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Swiss is a nasty cheese I said it fite me

  • @janschilling8364
    @janschilling8364 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hiiii

  • @user-jt7rb1dt8f
    @user-jt7rb1dt8f 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Translation to Arabic please

  • @actionkey8042
    @actionkey8042 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CrashCourse
    - hi install hi-tech light bulb or other staff

  • @batoola4986
    @batoola4986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First comment :))) hii

  • @Bunjamin27
    @Bunjamin27 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's John Green? He is, by far, the best host of Crash Course

    • @baltakatei
      @baltakatei 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No! She's wonderful!

    • @Bunjamin27
      @Bunjamin27 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@baltakatei - Why are you pretending someone said she's not wonderful? You crazy or something? John Green is, by far, the best host of Crash Course!

  • @ayanacarson301
    @ayanacarson301 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss hank and john ...

  • @graememacaulay6157
    @graememacaulay6157 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg, marry me

  • @T0m0m4r
    @T0m0m4r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Canadian cheese is bad anyway, just throw everything away and come to France