Went to see Exorcist III a few months back in theaters 35mm (UK print because of the BBFC in the beginning) at the music box here in chicago. One of my favorite horror films even though the horror genre doesn't really do much for me. And earlier in the year, same theater, i saw one of the original prints of the 1st Exorcist before Friedkin color graded it years later after it's initial release. Henceforth, it was really tinted pink but just so cool to see it in its original form. My sister used to show me exorcist 3 when i was about 4 years old and It would scare the living daylights out of me. In highschool i would rewatch it just to surpass the trauma I endured as a child from the nightmares and paranoia whenever I was alone in school hallways or even an empty hospital. Now, I am 37 years old and it only gives me chills when i see the movie hahaha. I love it!
The 1973 film always had a cold look to it Hikiko so I've clearly never see one of the later re-hashes with a different colour grade applied. I know it best from the Super 8 editions that were released in 1980 or 1981. A masterpiece of a horror film. And I think the 1990 film is a very good sequel. If the second film hadn't have appeared in 1978 I think Exorcist III would have been held in much higher regard right from the start. It seems to have a good following today though so it got there in the end. Amazing that a UK 35mm print has turned up in Chicago. I expect that's been loaned by a film collector because it's film collectors who have kept and preserved so many of the prints, most of which were chopped up and sent to the landfill. Watch out for those giant scissors next time you're alone in a long hallway somewhere! John.
Yes, it's a very well made film. I don't think I've ever seen The Ninth Configuration but if it's done with the panache of Exorcist III, it's got to be good. John.
Brad dourif is incredibly in this film and George C Scott’s performance is both funny and serious - it makes for some interesting character moments.. It’s a fantastic procedural detective film and has insanely great horror moments. Love this film.
Some of those long takes with Brad Dourif and George C. Scott are quite incredible. Just learning the lines would be beyond me let alone staying in character to act throughout the extensively long scenes too. John.
Thank you Drago. I have been a little concerned lately that I'm perhaps not quite up to the standard of years ago but hopefully I'm getting back up there now. John.
Always considered Exorcist 3 one of the best horror movies of the 90s. Brad Dourif’s performance was outstanding and the one tear rolling down his face became his signature
His long takes and extensive dialogue sequences with George C. Scott were incredible. Apparently Mr. Blatty didn't think Jason Miller would be able to remember all the lines which is why Brad Dourif filled in for most of that character's appearances on screen. John.
Hello John. Loving your information and review on Exorcist II & III. Just to take you back to The Exorcist for a moment. When I screened that in the cinema I was working at, we had a lot of Poltergeist activity in the cinema. Pre the release, In the various West End preview theatres were films are promoted (before the release), the van taking the 35mm print around would often be involved in a crash (when the 35mm print was on board). I have DVD copies of The Exorcist unopened, as I will not play it in my home for fear of what might happen! The last time I saw The Exorcist was in Copenhagen in a large cinema and it was packed, and it still scarred the life out of me. Back to II & III, I found your breakdown regarding what was on the disc to be very informative. You then went on to Furiosa. I am not a fan of Mad Max, but I thought Furiosa was really good. I bet it looks stunning on your screen. Can I go back to The Exortcist again. There was a 4th Exorcist movie called Exorcist the Beginning as I am sure you know. Warner Bros had terrible test screenings with it, and refused to release it. It was then decided to let Renny Harlin remake the movie again. I have seen both versions. Indeeed the version that never got released was awful. I saw it at a film festival in Amsterdam. The second version by Renny Harlin was the film that got released. Loved you Vlog. Always so well presented. All the best. Spoolbox
Evening Fred. I didn't actually know there was an Exorcist 4 and then another one after that. Good grief! There's a dead horse outside so I'll just go out there and flog it! A lot of people were asking for my opinion of Exorcist Believer about a year ago but strangely, I couldn't work up the enthusiasm. I'm having similar trouble with the fifth Alien film but I will give that one a try sometime soon. I've always found The Exorcist creepy and for years it was probably the only film that I wouldn't want to sit down and watch in a dark room on my own. However, even that has passed now and I just enjoy it as a film I know far too well having had the Super 8 editions for more than 40 years. It's probably a fairly unique film because it is so scary and that probably sets our 'spider sense' tingling when it's being screened and might help to explain some of the strange goings on that have been reported from its first release up to the present day. Personally, I just have a devil of a good time with it. Don't tell anyone but I have actually watched that 4K of Furiosa and in terms of image quality it's not as good as Mad Max Fury Road. A bit of a surprise when you consider Fury Road was nine years earlier and actually downscaled to 2K before being exported at 4K for the disc release. If I remember correctly the live action was shot at 6K so I suppose that's 'the VistaVision effect' where the higher resolution master has resulted in a superior end product. I haven't looked up the technical details of Furiosa yet but I can see there's a lot more blue/green screen and computer effects work on it which have lowered the overall quality. I'm currently looking at doing an Aliens Super 8 and full memorabilia collection video so that should be next assuming I get my act together. John.
Hi John, my copy of the Shout Factory 3 disc collectors edition of Exorcist lll States the 4k disc has a New 2023 4k scan of the original Camera Negative
Loved the film when I got to see it opening weekend while on holiday to Boston Massachusetts in 1990. So I have seen this film on various formats over the years. As you say, John Great Cast and writing. The use of sound was particularly impressive. Though I did appreciate the work print on disc 2 . If you can stomach the various quality sources.
I remember going to see this film so well. I was in a particularly stressful, virtually impossible IT job at the time and watching Exorcist III did nothing to relieve the stress! It's not often I'm put on edge watching a horror film but this one did. John.
I put the 35mm print together and screened it at 1 in the morning with 3 other employees , pretty darn scary and effective…its truly an underrated movie and one of my favorites. Have a great week.
I agree, it should be held in higher regard than it is but perhaps that exorcism sequence towards the end spoiled it too much for too many people at the time. John.
Yes, it's not often that a sequel turns out as well as The Exorcist III. It probably would have fared so much better if the 1978 sequel hadn't have come first though. John.
A criminally underseen gem of a film. I love The Exorcist III. It stands on it's own however it does make an exceptional double feature paired with the original classic. I have the arrow blu ray of this wonderful film and you have me interested in upgrading to the 4k John. That being said, Arrow's blu rays are often so good the 4k versions are at times a very subtle upgrade over their blu ray counterpart. 'The Thing' from arrow looking exceptional even when compared to the beautiful 4k from universal.
Most of the time it's only the HDR application that makes the difference Conall. But the 4K of The Others does put that into question as it didn't have HDR and still looked far better than the standard Blu-ray. There's no contest between the two on my system with this Exorcist 3 pack. John.
Hi John, great review. I saw this in the cinema back in the day and the scene with the nurse, I've never seen an audience jump out of their seat like that. All the best 👍. 10:37
We saw it in the little duplex cinema that is now part of Primark on the eastern end of Oxford Street Gary and I've never forgotten how everyone jumped at that same point. That's not something that happens very often, if ever. John.
Hi John! Excellent. I've only seen the film once before and can't remember if I liked it or not. Can't be sure if i'll add this one or not. I did see Furiosa in cinemas and loved it but havn't purchased yet as it holds on to a high price still. In time it will drop and i'll add it then. I'll just say here instead of going back in time that I took up your reccomendation for White Christmas and was so happy. What a great disc and film as well so thanks. With the holiday so close that means we are getting closer to your Year in review lololol.( forgive me ,my tongue is in cheek as i make presumptions lol) Can't believe how fast time went by. Hope all is well and really look forward to you and Simon playing with the Terminator... Cheers and all the best D in BC!!
Morning Dave. I have been thinking about a video to look back over the releases this year. Two particular releases stand out for me but others that I consider to be very good actually first came out at the end of last year. I'll have to include them all somehow. Glad you like White Christmas. What a great film with wonderful performances, music and dancing but best of all, great VistaVision image quality. John.
Yes, that Mr. Blatty fellow was a rather talented chap. There's another film he made before Exorcist 3 that other commenters have told me is very good. John.
Thanks John, superb video. I can’t think of another channel that compares a film print to the 4k version , 👌🏻 I’m over the moon they included the theatrical stereo soundtrack on The Terminator I prefer it to the Dolby Atmos in some ways especially the crash scenes and gunfire.
That's interesting Dan, because I thought The Terminator was only ever released with mono sound originally. It will be interesting to hear Simon's print which I was expecting to be mono but perhaps it isn't. The Super 8 was but I re-recorded it from the DVD. I couldn't do it from the VHS because that was mono. John.
Another great review John so well explained and full of useful information, not seen the movie so will consider the purchase based on what you have said. Furiosa is reference quality both in sound and picture. I recently purchased Blazing Saddles it’s a great addition to any collection a true classic film, great picture and good sound. Keep up the excellent reviews. Paul
I have watched Furiosa Paul and it's not as good as Fury Road in terms of image quality. In fact, the difference is quite stark. I suspect a little too much green/blue screen, low quality computer effects and possibly cameras that weren't as capable as they were nine years previously. It still looks pretty terrific most of the time though. John.
I do remember quite a few sequences from Exorcist II that I liked but overall I don't recall it too fondly. Shame it was made really because 'Legion'/Exorcist 3 probably would have fared much better in cinemas. John.
Brilliant to have you here. We have a lot of true film enthusiasts comment regularly on here and that's been one of the highlights of having this channel. I hope all is going well over in Argentina. It's bloomin' cold here right now, I can tell you! John.
John, Terminator is the one we have all been waiting for. I have purchased my Terminator 4K and you are in for a treat with the new Dolby Atmos mix.❤I can not wait!!!!!
I have a Dolby Stereo soundtrack on that Super 8 print Gurdip. The mono sound was good enough but I couldn't resist re-recording it from the DVD when that came out. It's a great looking film so the 35mm should be a but of a stunner which will mean the 4K is pretty terrific. John.
@Movie Collector cannot wait for the Terminator 4K 35MM comparison. Look forward to that when you and Simon are up to it! Furiosa is on my “to watch” pile that keeps growing. Loved Fury Road, and hope , like you, that Furiosa looks just as stunning.
Morning Pieter. I've had a look at Furiosa and sorry to say that it does not have the equivalent image quality of Fury Road. However, it's still very good. The sound is sensational though so that should keep a lot of people happy. John.
@ was already afraid it was less than FR but was curious and couldn’t resist buying it. The €19,99 price tag little over a month after release should had been a warning sign😄😉
@@pieterbalk-ht7kq I'm pretty sure that if you like Fury Road, you'll like Furiosa. Just don't expect it to be as good and you should be okay. I think a lot of people had raised expectations and hence were disappointed. It looks a little 'digital' at times so also be prepared for that. Too much blue screen and what looked like obvious studio work doesn't help either but overall it's still highly enjoyable tosh. John.
I really appreciated the performances and dialogue here. It’s wonderfully natural and entertaining at the same time. You can see the bones of a procedural series here, I’m not overly fond of the original Exorcist and in some ways this film is more timeless for me.
Some of the takes in Exorcist III were long, dialogue conversations and Brad Dourif was brilliant in those. Blatty wanted Jason Miller to do the part but he didn't think he'd be able to handle all the lines which Mr. Dourif explains in that 'Making Of'. Amazing performances from Dourif and Scott but everyone else was very good too. A classy horror, just a shame about the obviously added on exorcism sequence which spoiled the overall impact a little for me. John.
Fantastic job....I'm ashamed to say I have not seen this😅 I just have a thing where I don't watch sequels....if I see it on sale or a super price il pick it up ... Thanks John 👍
Yes, by all means, do another video on Aliens (and _two_ videos on The Terminator). The shot of the Aliens Super 8 print projected on your cinema screen shows that it's beautiful. I'd *love* to see Super 8 shots of The Terminator/Aliens and 35mm shots of The Terminator in the videos you may do. Erik.
Morning Erik. I'm working on that Aliens Super 8/collectables video. Getting everything together and putting some notes together so I don't leave anything out is where I'm at right now. Simon telephoned about The Terminator 35mm a few days ago so we'll look to see if we can do something in January is the weather is alright. John.
I would recommend you try the Director’s cut, John. Yes the image is a bit patchy, owing to the VHS inserts, but it removes lots of the stuff you didn’t like in the theatrical cut. Also a really good commentary on that version by Mark Kermode. Well worth a watch.
I saw some of the VHS sequences David, I found that I simply couldn't watch them. It may be one for the telly I suppose but I don't tend to watch films on our television. John.
@@moviecollector5920 John if we could perhaps persuade you, I'd at least watch the climax in the D.C. w/ Dourif because the acting is very different, and there's a very different type of denouement. I'd like to see what you think friend
I'm a big fan of Galaxy Quest but my wifey has never appreciated it like I do so that 4K disc will probably not be finding a home here. I've had the DVD since it was first released though so that will do. I have Trading Places on Blu-ray (brilliant!) and have the 4K of The Shape Of Water which I think cost me £2 in a local charity shop a couple of years ago. A much better film than I expected. John.
Because 35mm film or 35mm negative couldn't be found, 'Legion' should never have been put together. But to be fair, I expect it was all about selling home video discs and I hope it worked. John.
You are correct. Legion is the only true sequel to The Exorcist. Too bad the studio forced the Exorcist III title. I love the film and had to double dip for the Arrow release even though I have a copy of Shouts 4k. Yes The Ninth Configuration is an excellent movie.
I wonder if this film would have drawn in a bigger box office if the 'Legion' title had have been used and the added-in exorcism towards the end hadn''t have been included. It's understandable that the people who funded the film wanted to draw on the association of 'The Exorcist' but I suspect it would have had a better reputation today if it had have been 'Legion' and the tag line had have made it clear it was the true sequel to The Exorcist just as the book had. John.
I'm a big fan of The Exorcist 3,i bought the Arrow 4k too,underrated film(agree about the stupid exorcism at the end)..haven't got Furiosa yet but bought The Terminator, i did a little review of it...i think you'll be pleasantly surprised 😊
Evening Marty. I'll have a look at the 4K of The Terminator but I won't ever actually watch it. I've only bought it in the hope of producing an interesting TH-cam video or two. I'll speak to Simon soon to see what he thinks about doing something with his 35mm print next year. I might do something to compare the 4K to the Super 8 before that but probably best to hold off until after a 35mm video. We'll see. John.
✝️⚔️ EXORCIST III always delivered this uniqueness to the extension lour to it's original back story. It keeps ya gripped and left me full of intrigue throughout it. Brad Dourifs performance expecially is oscar worthy in my mind. Yeahh some things are a little iffy to the end however that never bothered me as much as others. I loved William Peter Blatty's directorial debut film The Ninth Configuration. As well William was a massive underrated creative, in so many ways it's a shame he wasn't a lot more appreciated. I love The TERMINATOR 🦾 and ALIENS 👾 as well film masterpieces that's without question. 🇬🇧
I think The Exorcist III is more highly regarded today than it was when it was new. It deserves to be too. As for Aliens and The Terminator, probably two of my three favourite films but I can't tell you which is in the number 2 spot and which is number 3 because I've never been able to decide. John.
I'm pretty sure that the exorcism scene isn't in the directors version. As you suspect it was added by the studio as you couldn't really call a film the exorcist 3 without an exorcism in it
I expected that to be the case but I did dip into the re-hashed version and couldn't get past the first VHS sequence I saw which looked ridiculous in here. John.
That's not something I'd be interested in seeing but I doubt it's on this 4K anyway as it's only the one 4K disc included. Anyone wanting to watch it in black and white only needs to drain the colour out. John.
Exorcist 3. I barely remember the plot but I liked it more than the second part. Although the second part also has an interesting side. Unfortunately, I currently only have the first part in various media in my collection. I saw Furiosa twice in the cinema and also bought the black and chrome edition, which I really like. I'll keep an eye out for the 4k Excorcist 3 because your review, John, made me want to watch it again. At the moment I have only pre-ordered a few 4Ks, some of which will be delivered before Christmas. First of all, I'm looking forward to City of darkness in the cinema. I have already pre-ordered the 4k. On Sunday Robbie Williams was in Cologne at the Cinedom to present Better Man. Nice event.
I hope you enjoy all your 4K purchases Jens. Exorcist III is a good one but you may find as I did that it's not as good the second time around. Still a very well made film though with excellent performances. John.
The Arrow Films release Austin. If the 'about the transfer' information is correct then they had further mastering work done to the cine transfer. I think there are a few bits of neg dust on occasion but it looks just about perfect as far as I'm concerned. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Do you think Arrow did any more upgrades/remastering on the Legion cut or is it just the same ol' blu ray transfer from the SF release from several years back?
I am looking forward to seeing your video about The Terminator featuring your friend Simon. I already have the disc, but I have not seen it yet because of the issues that I mentioned last time..
There never seems to be enough time nowadays Timothy. But I enjoy the interactions on here which takes up quite a lot of it and makes the whole TH-cam process worthwhile for me. I might tackle a more basic Terminator Super 8/4K video before I get a chance to get together with Simon but I'll see what he thinks sometime soon. The Aliens video we did has done very well so that's an indication something similar with The Terminator should be made. John.
@moviecollector5920 I'm not surprised that particular video is doing well. I myself watched it several times since the original viewing. As recently as Saturday in fact. I was telling my wife, how much I really love watching the two of you discussing the topics there in.
@@TimothyMathetes-e2o Thank you for your kind words Timothy, as John suggests we will try and do something early in the New Year. I am looking forward to it and intrigued to see the difference myself although I'm not yet ready to give up on 35mm.
@simonnichollsfilm you are welcome. Thank you, for responding. If I had the skills and means to have 35mm, I wouldn't want to give it up either. There's a handful of films that I so wish I could see projected again. Chief among them are: Batman 89, Gladiator and Jurassic Park.
That makes sense. I won't be able to watch that re-worked version though as I saw a couple of the VHS sequences and it's too awful on a large(ish) screen. John.
A great film to check out john...the horde (2016) it's Rambo meets the hills have eyes meets wrong turn!..now it was only released here in the uk and US on DVD but you can get a bluray / DVD mediabook from germany...check the trailer out and see what you think!🙂
Exorcist III is flawed but very good. I saw it at the cinema when it was released and that jump scene had the cinema on edge with nervous laughter when it was over. The book is very good too, it’s a shame they didn’t follow it more closely.
To be fair to the studio funding 'Exorcist 3', they had to bear in mind the second film was not well received, or highly regarded, so to attempt another sequel was a big risk. Changing the novel into something more reminiscent of the 1973 film by adding an exorcism did mean they could at least use the 'Exorcist' name. I dare say calling it 'Legion' would have adversely affected distribution and therefore box office returns and that was the reason for the amendments and the resultant title of the film. It's a shame it didn't fare better than it did in the end but it does seem to be more highly regarded today. John.
Very good points, studios don’t usually take risks and yes I think it’s become more appreciated over the years. Aside from the jump scene, I remember sitting in the cinema and finding some scenes very unsettling.
@@flytetime7637 I did too. I found I was extremely tense throughout most of the film. That doesn't happen to me often these days and didn't even 33 years ago.
Although I'm a big fan of the first two Mad Max movies and especially Fury Road, I've gone back and forth on purchasing Furiosa. My first impression is that Furiosa's backstory is better left in mystery. And, I've heard from numerous people saying it has too much CGI, which kind of defeats the main reason I loved the other films so much. If I see it dip under $10 on a Christmas Amazon sale, I'll pick it up. I'd love to see a review from you on it, though.
I have actually watched Furiosa already. It's a good prequel but is not as good as Fury Road, nor does it look as good as Fury Road. I think there's blue screen or green screen usage which lowers the quality too much too often. But, I still very much like it. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks, John. I'm sure the audio alone (on a good quality system) is worth the price of admission. Sometimes a great audio track helps me get over the rough patches much easier.
It’s such a shame the actual film elements couldn’t be found to assemble the directors cut. I’ve only watched it once and found the audio and video challenging to sit through just because of how low quality the VHS footage is. That and I find Brad Dourif’s performance was too stilted compared to the theatrical version. It comes off as more of a rehearsal. He nailed it the second time round I think. Still, it’s an excellent sequel despite the unnecessary exorcist sequence.
I saw a VHS sequence on that re-hashed version and couldn't watch the rest of it as a result. It wasn't a completely pointless exercise though because it was an attempt to sell more Blu-ray copies and I expect and hope that it worked. John.
I think the screaming audience scared me more than anything in the film that night in 1991. Great to experience something like that though because I can't imagine a film having such an effect on a group of people today. John.
Yes, I expect the original Blu-ray had the theatrical version on a separate disc too. Stick with it until you see a 4K copy singing like a bird - 'cheap, cheap'. John.
I enjoyed Furiosa on 4K although your eyes get acclimatised to pretty much nothing but the bright orange Australian sand. A silly fun film. Best wishes, Dave
I have watched it Dave and just like Fury Road, it's growing on me. I need to play with the sound again as the dialogue was drowned out a few times and I need to sort that before thinking about a review. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I thought Anya Taylor-Joy was great in it as she physically transformed herself through the film. Christopher Hemsworth made me smile with that "he who drinks Australian thinks Australian" attitude.
It might be a while James. I'll see what Simon thinks and then what the weather's like before risking another long trip over there on our treacherous roads. John.
I'd love to see more of your collection, both for Aliens/Terminator and just in general. I watched my 4K copy of Terminator and it looked amazing. I was genuinely blown away by it. It's the best it's ever looked.
The Terminator was always a great looking film Andy so with the work that can be done to a digital video copy now it should look pretty sensational. Apparently it looked brilliant on some of the few huge cinema screens still remaining when it had a limited re-release earlier this year. It looks brilliant on Super 8 too and that was done in 1992 and the master was only a 35mm general release print as Orion couldn't supply a 16mm negative. John.
The only slight anomaly I had in here with the sound was the dialogue was sometimes too muted and/or muffled. I intend to check that again if I get a chance. Other than that the sound was fantastic. Different systems produce different results. John.
The directors cut is a far better film and a different film altogether and not an exorcism film so try and give it a go as it's a lot closer to the source material 🎥🎬🎞️
Hello John my friends and I saw interstellar on 70 mm imax this Saturday and well it was softer then I expected it. But there were still plenty of scenes were it did look like seeing through a window. But the sound was not something any of us were prepared for! We felt like we were either hanging from the wings or in the cockpit. We felt very shaken after leaving the theater. Definitely something my friends and I will never forget. Something interesting to note because at least for me I saw a few scenes that were soft particularly when Micheal Cain’s character was dying I noticed that his mouth was out of focus but his eyes and forehead were perfectly sharp. I’m wondering if it was a symbolic choice since in that moment he said they lied as he was dying.
I expect those scenes which appeared softer were shot anamorphic 35mm Jesse. They can stand out when you're coming off of the largest film format ever invented onto something none or ten times smaller but blown up onto the enormous frames. A lot of the 35mm blends in almost seamlessly though which is amazing when you consider the size differential. Interstellar is the best IMAX film as far as I'm concerned but the three later Nolan films all look better in terms of overall image quality. If the sound you enjoyed was anything like the BFI IMAX then... simply unbelievable!!! John.
The sound was something to behold I have to say. My friends felt like way were what imagine a hang over is like (myself and my friends that joined none of us drink). We were certainly shaken and just a little stirred. If our friend Abe and Alex had joined us in certain they would’ve needed a day for the sensory overload with that film especially for how freaking load it is. The one that I’m not sure if my friends noticed because they may not know but during the scenes were there was supposed to be silence I did here the flicker from the projector and it made everything all the more haunting to me. I have to say I did enjoy the film grain and even the occasional dust that gave me confirmed that we were watching film. At times and especially for how big the screen was I do wonder if this was what it was like to watch a 70mm movie back in say the 50’s-70’s? I agree 2001 a space odyssey for this century and frankly a much better film. 2001 may have been ground breaking but the humans were more robotic than the computer trying to kill them. This puts you just as much of an emotional roller coaster as the sound will. Also thank you for your Analysis of this film in this format it gave me a reason to go back to Arizona for the first time since before Covid and I’m glad I got to see my grandmother while there’s something left upstairs even if she acts more like she’s 3 instead of 95.
@@jessechristensen6028 The distant drumming of a film projector is all part of a visit to a cinema. It won't be for youngsters I suppose, but it is for me and always has been. There's something lifeless about video projection however much I appreciate how good it has become. I think there is about 90 minutes of IMAX in INTERSTELLAR and it is of superior quality to standard 70mm. This is because it's a horizontal shooting process which means the image is on its side whereas standard 70mm is vertical. The result is that IMAX is about 30% wider than standard 70mm and that makes a huge difference even at those scales. Have a look at the opening of my recent WHITE CHRISTMAS video again Jesse because the IMAX lightbox I use to illustrate VistaVision does have a standard 70mm strip of DUNKIRK in it too. You can see how much bigger the IMAX frames are over standard 70mm (and 35mm too for that matter) but most importantly how much wider the IMAX 15/70 frames are. Look at them together vertically and it's clear to see IMAX is three frames of standard 70mm but on its side, hence why it's known as 15/70 whereas standard 70mm is now sometimes referred to as 5/70. 15 and 5 denotes the number of sprockets along each individual frame. John. John.
Well, that re-hashed version with VHS sequences looked awful to me Gary. I can't understand why anyone would even think of putting that together but I suppose someone thought it would make for better home video sales. John.
"Sorry about this incompetence. The perpetrator has been kicked up the backside!" John, don't berate yourself over such a simple error. We all make them lol. Anyhoo, prior to the films initial release back in 1990/1991, imagine Blatty going berserk with the level of studio interference here, that ultimately compromised the film as a finished product. And as others have stated, what a crime the alternate director's cut wasn't archived on 35mm somewhere. Could it really be that difficult?! We know "director's cut" editions weren't really in vogue back then; does everybody concur it was Cameron with Aliens, and later Lucas with the Star Wars OT "special editions" that started this trend gaining traction?
I think Arrow Films had this so-called 'Director's Cut' put together themselves Andrew according to that opening caption. If it helped shift a few more home video copies and bring some money in then brilliant, but otherwise I can't see the point. It's possible the missing 35mm sequences will turn up as negative or print and someone will be able to do a better job with it. Which is what I should have done with this video! I've looked into all the possibilities with editing within TH-cam or adding a label but there doesn't seem to be anything. A kick up the backside probably wasn't quite enough for that clanger but there's nothing I'm able to do about it now. John.
@DavidDunneUK The remaster transfer comes from a 4K scan that was downscaled and FINISHED at 2K. The 4K UHD is an upscale of that 2K finish. The email you're referring to doesn't dispute this and anyone familiar with AI upscalers like Topaz will spot the AI upscaling artifacts immediately.
4K is intended to replicate the look of film more closely so it should be a good exercise once again. Remember, the main thing is HDR because the increased resolution of 4K over standard Blu-ray is rarely perceptible on our tiny home screens. John.
@moviecollector5920 Bare in mind during your review that the Terminator 4K has been AI upscaled from 2K and completely denoised in the process, with a fake film grain plate dropped on top later. Film DAMAGE evident on the remastered Blu is present, which gives away that it's from the same source, but film grain has been eliminated and replaced after the fact with a filter or plugin. What you are seeing is 'emulation' of the look of film, rather than a replication.
@@systemmonitor5295 As long as the end result is good, it doesn't matter how it's been achieved. But I will always prefer to watch a real film print so I've just purchased this 4K in the hope of creating an interesting TH-cam video or two. I'll probably never actually watch the 4K disc. John.
Thanks for pointing that out Chris. One day I'll have a go at correcting it. I did pull the right poster down for that very sequence too. What an idiot! John.
If you get chance, watch the Directors cut, its much better, its how it should have been before the studio messed with it putting in the forced exorcism
Unfortunately I did see a couple of the VHS sequences in that which render it unwatchable. It might be alright on a telly I suppose but I don't tend to watch movies on a television. Perhaps one day the 35mm negative sections or rush prints will turn up and then an almost professional assembly can be put together. John.
Furiosa, while an enjoyable film, was a bit of a let down in visual department as I recall from my theatrical experience. Fury Road has a saturated look throughout but Furiosa has tonally naturalist look and that might seem easy on the eyes at first, but the visual effects elements come off as fake-ish in it, particularly in the shots with obvious green screen. I haven't watched any behind the scenes and making of it so I could be wrong about those shots. However in comparison to Fury Road, Furiosa looked altogether inferior to me. Now I don't know if it would look any better in 4K with Dolby vision or HDR. Personally, to enjoy this duology I prefer to watch Furiosa first, as it's the prequel, skip its credits, then proceed with Fury Road as a 2 hour bombastic finale.
I have looked at Furiosa and you're spot on - obvious blue/green screen on quite a few occasions. I think much has a studio bound look, the stunts often look like computer additions and overall the image quality is not up to the film of nine years ago. The sound is pretty fabulous though. I had some trouble with the dialogue at times so I had to turn that up. I intend to play with that again before I think about doing a review. John.
The 1973 original is one of the most historic films ever made Paul. Many imitations have diluted its impact somewhat since then but put your mind back into the early 1970's era and you should still see a masterpiece. A horror made in almost documentary style which is why it had such an impact. The 1990 film is a very good sequel. The 1978 film wasn't. John.
Sometimes video can be messed up by the settings we have on on our systems. Perhaps just double-check again that nothing has switched itself on. I know I keep going on about it but 'sharpen' is the worst offender. That bloody setting engaged itself back on twice on my older 4K video projector and it caused me problems each time before I spotted what had happened. The Terminator should look exceptionally good on every format because it looked exceptional in the first place. I expect the new 4K was done to look best on huge cinema screens (the few that are left!) so that's likely a factor. Put it on our tiny home screens and it might look too clean and clear. John.
@@MidnightsEdgeAfterDark If it looks good then what does it matter what has been done to get it there. But if you're happy with the original Blu-ray then stick to that copy. Whatever I think of the 4K, I'll be sticking with the Super 8 feature. John.
@@moviecollector5920 The super 8 is probably the way to go. IT's really sad mainly because it was unnesissary there are a few AI anomolies and it's overly smooth with fake grain laid over top. At least it's working from a 4K source so not as bad as True Lies or Aliens
@@MidnightsEdgeAfterDark I only bought my copy so I could use it in a TH-cam video. I know it's a waste of £20 but what can you get for £20 these days? Not much. If I were to hunt down a Super 8 feature print today I'd probably be looking at around £1K. If new prints were struck they'd be around that figure too. I would expect a 35mm print to cost even more. What I'm saying is, people shouldn't get so worked up about their disappointment with a particular home video disc because they're so comparatively cheap. Watch them again a few years down the line and they may look a whole lot more satisfactory. John.
The trouble with the directors cut is that it's too on the nose, and unnecessary close-up shots of things that we need to take notice. It lacks the subtlety that was in the original Exorcist. I was listening to the Mark Kermode and Kim Newman commentary, and Mark was explaining to Kim what certain scenes meant etc, and I was thinking, if he is having to explain to a horror expert what this scene meant and what that meant, then the film has failed completely. Maybe William Friedkin would've been better off directing this sequel rather than directing the awful horror movie The Guardian. The theatrical version is the better of the compromised two, but like Blatty's previous film The Ninth Configuration, which is also a compromised mess & has a multiple versions, he would've been better off just being the script writer rather than a director.
Most of us think Exorcist 3 is a very good sequel Floyd. I shouldn't bother listening to commentaries unless they're featuring the people who made the film, primarily the director, otherwise you might actually be listening to a complete load of tosh. Better to watch the film a second time to get a deeper understanding of what you've seen... or perhaps just stick it on the shelf and get it out again a few years later. John.
First time viewer. Your video popped up on my TH-cam page. *Wow* you have a *8mm negative print* of *terminator* ? What the.... How did you get a negative print of Arnie's 1984 machine movie ? You mentioned _your friend_ has a *35mm print of terminator* .. What's the quality like when displaying a negative print compared to the _digital 4k print_ ? Have you/ TH-camrs brought the amazing *three disc set* of *Garbage pail kids movie* ? Merry Christmas 2024 everyone
Good to have you here. Derann Film Services issued a whole lot of the top Orion Pictures product in the early 1990's and The Terminator was one of them. It's a first run print so we've had it a long time. I haven't seen Simon's 35mm print - yet - but I did see a general release print in 1984 and it looked pretty terrific. The Terminator has always looked pretty terrific. To my eyes, film is always a more natural looking projected image than video but some of the best cinemas do have exceptionally good video projectors that I probably would still frequent if I hadn't have left London. Most haven't though so I only venture to a cinema these days if I know a film print is being screened. If you've grown up with video though, I dare say most would see video as superior. I grew up with film and that's probably got a lot to do with my love of real film. John.
Sorry Maxwell, I don't know what your saying or asking me here. Please elaborate a little but if you're asking me to make longer videos, I do upload some longer ones on occasion. John.
@ oh, my apologies, kinda a joke. If you’ve noticed, YT content in general has trended toward longer videos, often much longer. In the past it was thought attention spans would not permit it, long after the length limit was lifted by google. Just throwing my vote in the comments that if you thought your viewers expect videos on the tighter side, I vote that they can be as long as you want. But it’s only license to go off if you want, not that I’m upset that you didn’t. Was also drunk heh. Thanks nice work.
@@Maxwell-u5c Interesting. I tend to find that shorter videos, where I'm reviewing a single 4K disc release, tend to fare better than longer ones. However, when it comes to more interesting subjects such as visits to cinema projection boxes, those can be quite lengthy and generate far bigger numbers of views. It almost seems that the longer they are, the better. John.
Went to see Exorcist III a few months back in theaters 35mm (UK print because of the BBFC in the beginning) at the music box here in chicago. One of my favorite horror films even though the horror genre doesn't really do much for me.
And earlier in the year, same theater, i saw one of the original prints of the 1st Exorcist before Friedkin color graded it years later after it's initial release. Henceforth, it was really tinted pink but just so cool to see it in its original form.
My sister used to show me exorcist 3 when i was about 4 years old and It would scare the living daylights out of me. In highschool i would rewatch it just to surpass the trauma I endured as a child from the nightmares and paranoia whenever I was alone in school hallways or even an empty hospital. Now, I am 37 years old and it only gives me chills when i see the movie hahaha. I love it!
The 1973 film always had a cold look to it Hikiko so I've clearly never see one of the later re-hashes with a different colour grade applied. I know it best from the Super 8 editions that were released in 1980 or 1981. A masterpiece of a horror film. And I think the 1990 film is a very good sequel. If the second film hadn't have appeared in 1978 I think Exorcist III would have been held in much higher regard right from the start. It seems to have a good following today though so it got there in the end.
Amazing that a UK 35mm print has turned up in Chicago. I expect that's been loaned by a film collector because it's film collectors who have kept and preserved so many of the prints, most of which were chopped up and sent to the landfill.
Watch out for those giant scissors next time you're alone in a long hallway somewhere!
John.
@@Hikikomorisama same. Music box 👍👏
Blatty proves with Exorcist 3 that he's as good of a director as he is writer. The Ninth Configuration is also a must see.
Yes, it's a very well made film. I don't think I've ever seen The Ninth Configuration but if it's done with the panache of Exorcist III, it's got to be good.
John.
The Ninth Configuration is a fantastic film!
Brad dourif is incredibly in this film and George C Scott’s performance is both funny and serious - it makes for some interesting character moments.. It’s a fantastic procedural detective film and has insanely great horror moments. Love this film.
Some of those long takes with Brad Dourif and George C. Scott are quite incredible. Just learning the lines would be beyond me let alone staying in character to act throughout the extensively long scenes too. John.
Amazing reviews John, great to see you steadily improving your craft and videos. Thank you!
Thank you Drago. I have been a little concerned lately that I'm perhaps not quite up to the standard of years ago but hopefully I'm getting back up there now.
John.
Always considered Exorcist 3 one of the best horror movies of the 90s. Brad Dourif’s performance was outstanding and the one tear rolling down his face became his signature
His long takes and extensive dialogue sequences with George C. Scott were incredible. Apparently Mr. Blatty didn't think Jason Miller would be able to remember all the lines which is why Brad Dourif filled in for most of that character's appearances on screen. John.
Hello John. Loving your information and review on Exorcist II & III. Just to take you back to The Exorcist for a moment. When I screened that in the cinema I was working at, we had a lot of Poltergeist activity in the cinema. Pre the release, In the various West End preview theatres were films are promoted (before the release), the van taking the 35mm print around would often be involved in a crash (when the 35mm print was on board). I have DVD copies of The Exorcist unopened, as I will not play it in my home for fear of what might happen! The last time I saw The Exorcist was in Copenhagen in a large cinema and it was packed, and it still scarred the life out of me. Back to II & III, I found your breakdown regarding what was on the disc to be very informative. You then went on to Furiosa. I am not a fan of Mad Max, but I thought Furiosa was really good. I bet it looks stunning on your screen. Can I go back to The Exortcist again. There was a 4th Exorcist movie called Exorcist the Beginning as I am sure you know. Warner Bros had terrible test screenings with it, and refused to release it. It was then decided to let Renny Harlin remake the movie again. I have seen both versions. Indeeed the version that never got released was awful. I saw it at a film festival in Amsterdam. The second version by Renny Harlin was the film that got released. Loved you Vlog. Always so well presented. All the best. Spoolbox
Evening Fred. I didn't actually know there was an Exorcist 4 and then another one after that. Good grief! There's a dead horse outside so I'll just go out there and flog it! A lot of people were asking for my opinion of Exorcist Believer about a year ago but strangely, I couldn't work up the enthusiasm. I'm having similar trouble with the fifth Alien film but I will give that one a try sometime soon. I've always found The Exorcist creepy and for years it was probably the only film that I wouldn't want to sit down and watch in a dark room on my own. However, even that has passed now and I just enjoy it as a film I know far too well having had the Super 8 editions for more than 40 years. It's probably a fairly unique film because it is so scary and that probably sets our 'spider sense' tingling when it's being screened and might help to explain some of the strange goings on that have been reported from its first release up to the present day. Personally, I just have a devil of a good time with it.
Don't tell anyone but I have actually watched that 4K of Furiosa and in terms of image quality it's not as good as Mad Max Fury Road. A bit of a surprise when you consider Fury Road was nine years earlier and actually downscaled to 2K before being exported at 4K for the disc release. If I remember correctly the live action was shot at 6K so I suppose that's 'the VistaVision effect' where the higher resolution master has resulted in a superior end product. I haven't looked up the technical details of Furiosa yet but I can see there's a lot more blue/green screen and computer effects work on it which have lowered the overall quality.
I'm currently looking at doing an Aliens Super 8 and full memorabilia collection video so that should be next assuming I get my act together.
John.
Congratulations on 30k subscribers 🎆🎆
Thank you Roy. I was aware of the subscriber count shooting up since the Aliens 35mm/4K video went up four weeks ago today. John.
Hi John, my copy of the Shout Factory 3 disc collectors edition of Exorcist lll
States the 4k disc has a New 2023 4k scan of the original Camera Negative
That's interesting. I wonder why the Arrow Films booklet didn't state that. Quite an omission. John.
Loved the film when I got to see it opening weekend while on holiday to Boston Massachusetts in 1990. So I have seen this film on various formats over the years. As you say, John Great Cast and writing. The use of sound was particularly impressive. Though I did appreciate the work print on disc 2 . If you can stomach the various quality sources.
I remember going to see this film so well. I was in a particularly stressful, virtually impossible IT job at the time and watching Exorcist III did nothing to relieve the stress! It's not often I'm put on edge watching a horror film but this one did.
John.
I put the 35mm print together and screened it at 1 in the morning with 3 other employees , pretty darn scary and effective…its truly an underrated movie and one of my favorites. Have a great week.
I agree, it should be held in higher regard than it is but perhaps that exorcism sequence towards the end spoiled it too much for too many people at the time. John.
Thank you John.
Thanks Cheekster, as always. John.
Thanks, John. A great movie, George C. Scott was a great actor.
Yes, it's not often that a sequel turns out as well as The Exorcist III. It probably would have fared so much better if the 1978 sequel hadn't have come first though. John.
A criminally underseen gem of a film. I love The Exorcist III. It stands on it's own however it does make an exceptional double feature paired with the original classic. I have the arrow blu ray of this wonderful film and you have me interested in upgrading to the 4k John. That being said, Arrow's blu rays are often so good the 4k versions are at times a very subtle upgrade over their blu ray counterpart. 'The Thing' from arrow looking exceptional even when compared to the beautiful 4k from universal.
Most of the time it's only the HDR application that makes the difference Conall. But the 4K of The Others does put that into question as it didn't have HDR and still looked far better than the standard Blu-ray. There's no contest between the two on my system with this Exorcist 3 pack.
John.
Look forward to your thoughts on T1
One of the best films ever made... according to me! It's always had exceptionally good image quality so I expect the same of the 4K. John.
Hi John, great review. I saw this in the cinema back in the day and the scene with the nurse, I've never seen an audience jump out of their seat like that. All the best 👍. 10:37
We saw it in the little duplex cinema that is now part of Primark on the eastern end of Oxford Street Gary and I've never forgotten how everyone jumped at that same point. That's not something that happens very often, if ever. John.
salut voila encore une bonne Vidèo sur le 4 k UHD merci
Merci Alain. John.
Love this film. Good review John 👍
Thank you. I think Exorcist III deserved more plaudits than it seemed to get back in 1990 and 91. John.
Hi John! Excellent. I've only seen the film once before and can't remember if I liked it or not. Can't be sure if i'll add this one or not. I did see Furiosa in cinemas and loved it but havn't purchased yet as it holds on to a high price still. In time it will drop and i'll add it then. I'll just say here instead of going back in time that I took up your reccomendation for White Christmas and was so happy. What a great disc and film as well so thanks. With the holiday so close that means we are getting closer to your Year in review lololol.( forgive me ,my tongue is in cheek as i make presumptions lol) Can't believe how fast time went by. Hope all is well and really look forward to you and Simon playing with the Terminator... Cheers and all the best D in BC!!
Morning Dave. I have been thinking about a video to look back over the releases this year. Two particular releases stand out for me but others that I consider to be very good actually first came out at the end of last year. I'll have to include them all somehow. Glad you like White Christmas. What a great film with wonderful performances, music and dancing but best of all, great VistaVision image quality. John.
I didn't know that the writer of The Exorcist wrote and directed part 3. I always liked George C. Scott and Brad Dourif's performances.
Yes, that Mr. Blatty fellow was a rather talented chap. There's another film he made before Exorcist 3 that other commenters have told me is very good. John.
I have never seen this one, John, I'm going to have to check it out. Excellent review.
It is a very good sequel in my opinion and that's quite a rare thing in itself. John.
Thanks John, superb video. I can’t think of another channel that compares a film print to the 4k version , 👌🏻 I’m over the moon they included the theatrical stereo soundtrack on The Terminator I prefer it to the Dolby Atmos in some ways especially the crash scenes and gunfire.
That's interesting Dan, because I thought The Terminator was only ever released with mono sound originally. It will be interesting to hear Simon's print which I was expecting to be mono but perhaps it isn't. The Super 8 was but I re-recorded it from the DVD. I couldn't do it from the VHS because that was mono.
John.
@ your right John the original sound is in mono. And the disc is 2.0 dts mono, I made a mistake stating stereo 👍🏼
Another great review John so well explained and full of useful information, not seen the movie so will consider the purchase based on what you have said. Furiosa is reference quality both in sound and picture. I recently purchased Blazing Saddles it’s a great addition to any collection a true classic film, great picture and good sound. Keep up the excellent reviews. Paul
I have watched Furiosa Paul and it's not as good as Fury Road in terms of image quality. In fact, the difference is quite stark. I suspect a little too much green/blue screen, low quality computer effects and possibly cameras that weren't as capable as they were nine years previously. It still looks pretty terrific most of the time though. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hi John, really appreciate your reply and thoughts, and Fury road is a very good film. Looking forward to your next review. 👍🏻
Great review John :) I agree that it's a pretty good horror film and well worth watching. It's definitely better than The Exorcist II.
I do remember quite a few sequences from Exorcist II that I liked but overall I don't recall it too fondly. Shame it was made really because 'Legion'/Exorcist 3 probably would have fared much better in cinemas. John.
Very good film,I really enjoyed it and the presentation from Arrow is fantastic,Top disc 👍🏻
Arrow Films have done some exceptional work over the years and this is another one Gazza. John.
great youtube video as per usual, imo III is the natural successor to the original Exorcist
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Yes, it probably would have been a much more successful film if Exorcist II The Heretic hadn't have been made. John.
I LOVE your Channel .🎉 I see you from Buenos Aires .
Brilliant to have you here. We have a lot of true film enthusiasts comment regularly on here and that's been one of the highlights of having this channel. I hope all is going well over in Argentina. It's bloomin' cold here right now, I can tell you!
John.
One of my faves, looking forward to this
Yes, Exorcist III is a very good sequel and there haven't been many of those down the years... Aliens is a bit of a stand out though. John.
John, Terminator is the one we have all been waiting for. I have purchased my Terminator 4K and you are in for a treat with the new Dolby Atmos mix.❤I can not wait!!!!!
I have a Dolby Stereo soundtrack on that Super 8 print Gurdip. The mono sound was good enough but I couldn't resist re-recording it from the DVD when that came out. It's a great looking film so the 35mm should be a but of a stunner which will mean the 4K is pretty terrific. John.
@Movie Collector cannot wait for the Terminator 4K 35MM comparison.
Look forward to that when you and Simon are up to it!
Furiosa is on my “to watch” pile that keeps growing. Loved Fury Road, and hope , like you, that Furiosa looks just as stunning.
Morning Pieter. I've had a look at Furiosa and sorry to say that it does not have the equivalent image quality of Fury Road. However, it's still very good. The sound is sensational though so that should keep a lot of people happy. John.
@ was already afraid it was less than FR but was curious and couldn’t resist buying it. The €19,99 price tag little over a month after release should had been a warning sign😄😉
@@pieterbalk-ht7kq I'm pretty sure that if you like Fury Road, you'll like Furiosa. Just don't expect it to be as good and you should be okay. I think a lot of people had raised expectations and hence were disappointed. It looks a little 'digital' at times so also be prepared for that. Too much blue screen and what looked like obvious studio work doesn't help either but overall it's still highly enjoyable tosh. John.
I really appreciated the performances and dialogue here. It’s wonderfully natural and entertaining at the same time. You can see the bones of a procedural series here, I’m not overly fond of the original Exorcist and in some ways this film is more timeless for me.
Some of the takes in Exorcist III were long, dialogue conversations and Brad Dourif was brilliant in those. Blatty wanted Jason Miller to do the part but he didn't think he'd be able to handle all the lines which Mr. Dourif explains in that 'Making Of'. Amazing performances from Dourif and Scott but everyone else was very good too. A classy horror, just a shame about the obviously added on exorcism sequence which spoiled the overall impact a little for me.
John.
Fantastic job....I'm ashamed to say I have not seen this😅 I just have a thing where I don't watch sequels....if I see it on sale or a super price il pick it up ... Thanks John 👍
It's quite a good sequel Roy which is a rare thing in itself. John.
Yes, by all means, do another video on Aliens (and _two_ videos on The Terminator). The shot of the Aliens Super 8 print projected on your cinema screen shows that it's beautiful. I'd *love* to see Super 8 shots of The Terminator/Aliens and 35mm shots of The Terminator in the videos you may do.
Erik.
Morning Erik. I'm working on that Aliens Super 8/collectables video. Getting everything together and putting some notes together so I don't leave anything out is where I'm at right now. Simon telephoned about The Terminator 35mm a few days ago so we'll look to see if we can do something in January is the weather is alright. John.
Never seen this movie , maybe one to add to my collection , great review .
If you find horror films a little frightening at times then this one might be right up your street. John.
I would recommend you try the Director’s cut, John. Yes the image is a bit patchy, owing to the VHS inserts, but it removes lots of the stuff you didn’t like in the theatrical cut. Also a really good commentary on that version by Mark Kermode. Well worth a watch.
I saw some of the VHS sequences David, I found that I simply couldn't watch them. It may be one for the telly I suppose but I don't tend to watch films on our television. John.
@@moviecollector5920 John if we could perhaps persuade you, I'd at least watch the climax in the D.C. w/ Dourif because the acting is very different, and there's a very different type of denouement. I'd like to see what you think friend
@@pewburrito I'll try to remember to take a look at just the ending sequence. I don't think I ever want to see that re-hash of the film though. John.
Good job, John. My latest gets , Trading Places and Galaxy Quest. Watched The Shape of Water a certainly unique movie.
I'm a big fan of Galaxy Quest but my wifey has never appreciated it like I do so that 4K disc will probably not be finding a home here. I've had the DVD since it was first released though so that will do. I have Trading Places on Blu-ray (brilliant!) and have the 4K of The Shape Of Water which I think cost me £2 in a local charity shop a couple of years ago. A much better film than I expected.
John.
Any Trekki has to appreciate the satire in GQ. My wife doesn’t get a vote. I was going to brag about getting SoW for $6 , but you win!
@@garyharper2943 Wifey isn't quite the Trekkie I am Gary. But I have trained and educated her significantly over the years so she's getting there.
Keep up the fine work.
Thank you. I'll try to. John.
Mad Max F. I really enjoyed. Terminator is always fun to way to watch. Thanks John
I think The Terminator is one of the greatest films ever made Craig. Fury Road ain't at all bad either. John.
I prefer the Legion cut. Makes more sense. A shame they couldn't source the film elements to complete it properly.
Because 35mm film or 35mm negative couldn't be found, 'Legion' should never have been put together. But to be fair, I expect it was all about selling home video discs and I hope it worked. John.
You are correct. Legion is the only true sequel to The Exorcist. Too bad the studio forced the Exorcist III title. I love the film and had to double dip for the Arrow release even though I have a copy of Shouts 4k. Yes The Ninth Configuration is an excellent movie.
I wonder if this film would have drawn in a bigger box office if the 'Legion' title had have been used and the added-in exorcism towards the end hadn''t have been included. It's understandable that the people who funded the film wanted to draw on the association of 'The Exorcist' but I suspect it would have had a better reputation today if it had have been 'Legion' and the tag line had have made it clear it was the true sequel to The Exorcist just as the book had.
John.
I'm a big fan of The Exorcist 3,i bought the Arrow 4k too,underrated film(agree about the stupid exorcism at the end)..haven't got Furiosa yet but bought The Terminator, i did a little review of it...i think you'll be pleasantly surprised 😊
Evening Marty. I'll have a look at the 4K of The Terminator but I won't ever actually watch it. I've only bought it in the hope of producing an interesting TH-cam video or two. I'll speak to Simon soon to see what he thinks about doing something with his 35mm print next year. I might do something to compare the 4K to the Super 8 before that but probably best to hold off until after a 35mm video. We'll see.
John.
✝️⚔️ EXORCIST III always delivered this uniqueness to the extension lour to it's original back story. It keeps ya gripped and left me full of intrigue throughout it. Brad Dourifs performance expecially is oscar worthy in my mind.
Yeahh some things are a little iffy to the end however that never bothered me as much as others.
I loved William Peter Blatty's directorial debut film The Ninth Configuration. As well William was a massive underrated creative, in so many ways it's a shame he wasn't a lot more appreciated.
I love The TERMINATOR 🦾 and ALIENS 👾 as well film masterpieces that's without question. 🇬🇧
I think The Exorcist III is more highly regarded today than it was when it was new. It deserves to be too. As for Aliens and The Terminator, probably two of my three favourite films but I can't tell you which is in the number 2 spot and which is number 3 because I've never been able to decide.
John.
I'm pretty sure that the exorcism scene isn't in the directors version. As you suspect it was added by the studio as you couldn't really call a film the exorcist 3 without an exorcism in it
I expected that to be the case but I did dip into the re-hashed version and couldn't get past the first VHS sequence I saw which looked ridiculous in here. John.
There is a Furiosa black & chrome edition. Its certainly different. Not sure if it will be in the version you have.
That's not something I'd be interested in seeing but I doubt it's on this 4K anyway as it's only the one 4K disc included. Anyone wanting to watch it in black and white only needs to drain the colour out. John.
Exorcist 3. I barely remember the plot but I liked it more than the second part. Although the second part also has an interesting side. Unfortunately, I currently only have the first part in various media in my collection. I saw Furiosa twice in the cinema and also bought the black and chrome edition, which I really like. I'll keep an eye out for the 4k Excorcist 3 because your review, John, made me want to watch it again. At the moment I have only pre-ordered a few 4Ks, some of which will be delivered before Christmas. First of all, I'm looking forward to City of darkness in the cinema. I have already pre-ordered the 4k. On Sunday Robbie Williams was in Cologne at the Cinedom to present Better Man. Nice event.
I hope you enjoy all your 4K purchases Jens. Exorcist III is a good one but you may find as I did that it's not as good the second time around. Still a very well made film though with excellent performances. John.
Which do you think would be the better Exorcist 3 4K to get, the Arrow or the US Scream Factory?
The Arrow Films release Austin. If the 'about the transfer' information is correct then they had further mastering work done to the cine transfer. I think there are a few bits of neg dust on occasion but it looks just about perfect as far as I'm concerned. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Do you think Arrow did any more upgrades/remastering on the Legion cut or is it just the same ol' blu ray transfer from the SF release from several years back?
I am looking forward to seeing your video about The Terminator featuring your friend Simon. I already have the disc, but I have not seen it yet because of the issues that I mentioned last time..
There never seems to be enough time nowadays Timothy. But I enjoy the interactions on here which takes up quite a lot of it and makes the whole TH-cam process worthwhile for me. I might tackle a more basic Terminator Super 8/4K video before I get a chance to get together with Simon but I'll see what he thinks sometime soon. The Aliens video we did has done very well so that's an indication something similar with The Terminator should be made.
John.
@moviecollector5920 I'm not surprised that particular video is doing well. I myself watched it several times since the original viewing. As recently as Saturday in fact. I was telling my wife, how much I really love watching the two of you discussing the topics there in.
@@TimothyMathetes-e2o Thank you for your kind words Timothy, as John suggests we will try and do something early in the New Year. I am looking forward to it and intrigued to see the difference myself although I'm not yet ready to give up on 35mm.
@simonnichollsfilm you are welcome. Thank you, for responding. If I had the skills and means to have 35mm, I wouldn't want to give it up either. There's a handful of films that I so wish I could see projected again. Chief among them are: Batman 89, Gladiator and Jurassic Park.
The directors cut the vhs tape doesn't include the exorcist at the end as the studio insisted there to be a exorcist.
That makes sense. I won't be able to watch that re-worked version though as I saw a couple of the VHS sequences and it's too awful on a large(ish) screen. John.
A great film to check out john...the horde (2016) it's Rambo meets the hills have eyes meets wrong turn!..now it was only released here in the uk and US on DVD but you can get a bluray / DVD mediabook from germany...check the trailer out and see what you think!🙂
I'll try to remember to take a look for the trailer of The Horde Steven. Rather pushed for time at the moment so don't let me forget. John.
The Exorcist, The 9th Configuration and Legion is the true Exorcist trillogy.
I've never seen The 9th Configuration Mark. Don't think I've ever heard of it before so I must look it up. John.
@moviecollector5920 Wow needs to be a priority.
Exorcist III is flawed but very good. I saw it at the cinema when it was released and that jump scene had the cinema on edge with nervous laughter when it was over. The book is very good too, it’s a shame they didn’t follow it more closely.
To be fair to the studio funding 'Exorcist 3', they had to bear in mind the second film was not well received, or highly regarded, so to attempt another sequel was a big risk. Changing the novel into something more reminiscent of the 1973 film by adding an exorcism did mean they could at least use the 'Exorcist' name. I dare say calling it 'Legion' would have adversely affected distribution and therefore box office returns and that was the reason for the amendments and the resultant title of the film. It's a shame it didn't fare better than it did in the end but it does seem to be more highly regarded today.
John.
Very good points, studios don’t usually take risks and yes I think it’s become more appreciated over the years. Aside from the jump scene, I remember sitting in the cinema and finding some scenes very unsettling.
@@flytetime7637 I did too. I found I was extremely tense throughout most of the film. That doesn't happen to me often these days and didn't even 33 years ago.
Although I'm a big fan of the first two Mad Max movies and especially Fury Road, I've gone back and forth on purchasing Furiosa. My first impression is that Furiosa's backstory is better left in mystery. And, I've heard from numerous people saying it has too much CGI, which kind of defeats the main reason I loved the other films so much. If I see it dip under $10 on a Christmas Amazon sale, I'll pick it up. I'd love to see a review from you on it, though.
I have actually watched Furiosa already. It's a good prequel but is not as good as Fury Road, nor does it look as good as Fury Road. I think there's blue screen or green screen usage which lowers the quality too much too often. But, I still very much like it. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks, John. I'm sure the audio alone (on a good quality system) is worth the price of admission. Sometimes a great audio track helps me get over the rough patches much easier.
It’s such a shame the actual film elements couldn’t be found to assemble the directors cut. I’ve only watched it once and found the audio and video challenging to sit through just because of how low quality the VHS footage is. That and I find Brad Dourif’s performance was too stilted compared to the theatrical version. It comes off as more of a rehearsal. He nailed it the second time round I think. Still, it’s an excellent sequel despite the unnecessary exorcist sequence.
I saw a VHS sequence on that re-hashed version and couldn't watch the rest of it as a result. It wasn't a completely pointless exercise though because it was an attempt to sell more Blu-ray copies and I expect and hope that it worked. John.
That scene always scares me and i even know it's coming!😂
I think the screaming audience scared me more than anything in the film that night in 1991. Great to experience something like that though because I can't imagine a film having such an effect on a group of people today. John.
I've got the original Blu-ray that Arrow released, I think that will do for me unless this finds it's into some sort of promotion.
Yes, I expect the original Blu-ray had the theatrical version on a separate disc too. Stick with it until you see a 4K copy singing like a bird - 'cheap, cheap'.
John.
@moviecollector5920 HaHa indeed, keep the videos coming John, you've never steered me wrong 👍
Looking forward to the Terminator
One of the greatest films ever made in the opinion of me!
I enjoyed Furiosa on 4K although your eyes get acclimatised to pretty much nothing but the bright orange Australian sand. A silly fun film. Best wishes, Dave
I have watched it Dave and just like Fury Road, it's growing on me. I need to play with the sound again as the dialogue was drowned out a few times and I need to sort that before thinking about a review. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I thought Anya Taylor-Joy was great in it as she physically transformed herself through the film. Christopher Hemsworth made me smile with that "he who drinks Australian thinks Australian" attitude.
@@loftlegacy And the little girl who played Furiosa Dave, she was brilliant!
Look forward to the Terminator review
It might be a while James. I'll see what Simon thinks and then what the weather's like before risking another long trip over there on our treacherous roads. John.
I'd love to see more of your collection, both for Aliens/Terminator and just in general. I watched my 4K copy of Terminator and it looked amazing. I was genuinely blown away by it. It's the best it's ever looked.
The Terminator was always a great looking film Andy so with the work that can be done to a digital video copy now it should look pretty sensational. Apparently it looked brilliant on some of the few huge cinema screens still remaining when it had a limited re-release earlier this year. It looks brilliant on Super 8 too and that was done in 1992 and the master was only a 35mm general release print as Orion couldn't supply a 16mm negative. John.
Hope its not a spoiler but the sound on furiosa was a disappointment for me especially compared to fury road, thanks John always helpful.
The only slight anomaly I had in here with the sound was the dialogue was sometimes too muted and/or muffled. I intend to check that again if I get a chance. Other than that the sound was fantastic. Different systems produce different results.
John.
The directors cut is a far better film and a different film altogether and not an exorcism film so try and give it a go as it's a lot closer to the source material 🎥🎬🎞️
I did dip into it but the VHS sequences rendered it unwatchable for me which is a shame. John.
Hello John my friends and I saw interstellar on 70 mm imax this Saturday and well it was softer then I expected it. But there were still plenty of scenes were it did look like seeing through a window. But the sound was not something any of us were prepared for! We felt like we were either hanging from the wings or in the cockpit. We felt very shaken after leaving the theater. Definitely something my friends and I will never forget. Something interesting to note because at least for me I saw a few scenes that were soft particularly when Micheal Cain’s character was dying I noticed that his mouth was out of focus but his eyes and forehead were perfectly sharp. I’m wondering if it was a symbolic choice since in that moment he said they lied as he was dying.
I expect those scenes which appeared softer were shot anamorphic 35mm Jesse. They can stand out when you're coming off of the largest film format ever invented onto something none or ten times smaller but blown up onto the enormous frames. A lot of the 35mm blends in almost seamlessly though which is amazing when you consider the size differential.
Interstellar is the best IMAX film as far as I'm concerned but the three later Nolan films all look better in terms of overall image quality. If the sound you enjoyed was anything like the BFI IMAX then... simply unbelievable!!!
John.
The sound was something to behold I have to say. My friends felt like way were what imagine a hang over is like (myself and my friends that joined none of us drink). We were certainly shaken and just a little stirred. If our friend Abe and Alex had joined us in certain they would’ve needed a day for the sensory overload with that film especially for how freaking load it is. The one that I’m not sure if my friends noticed because they may not know but during the scenes were there was supposed to be silence I did here the flicker from the projector and it made everything all the more haunting to me. I have to say I did enjoy the film grain and even the occasional dust that gave me confirmed that we were watching film. At times and especially for how big the screen was I do wonder if this was what it was like to watch a 70mm movie back in say the 50’s-70’s? I agree 2001 a space odyssey for this century and frankly a much better film. 2001 may have been ground breaking but the humans were more robotic than the computer trying to kill them. This puts you just as much of an emotional roller coaster as the sound will. Also thank you for your Analysis of this film in this format it gave me a reason to go back to Arizona for the first time since before Covid and I’m glad I got to see my grandmother while there’s something left upstairs even if she acts more like she’s 3 instead of 95.
@@jessechristensen6028 The distant drumming of a film projector is all part of a visit to a cinema. It won't be for youngsters I suppose, but it is for me and always has been. There's something lifeless about video projection however much I appreciate how good it has become. I think there is about 90 minutes of IMAX in INTERSTELLAR and it is of superior quality to standard 70mm. This is because it's a horizontal shooting process which means the image is on its side whereas standard 70mm is vertical. The result is that IMAX is about 30% wider than standard 70mm and that makes a huge difference even at those scales. Have a look at the opening of my recent WHITE CHRISTMAS video again Jesse because the IMAX lightbox I use to illustrate VistaVision does have a standard 70mm strip of DUNKIRK in it too. You can see how much bigger the IMAX frames are over standard 70mm (and 35mm too for that matter) but most importantly how much wider the IMAX 15/70 frames are. Look at them together vertically and it's clear to see IMAX is three frames of standard 70mm but on its side, hence why it's known as 15/70 whereas standard 70mm is now sometimes referred to as 5/70. 15 and 5 denotes the number of sprockets along each individual frame.
John.
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When you show the Budget, it has the image of Exorcist 2 instead of 3. Unless I missed something, Great video though!
Nope, complete cock up by the idiot who made put this video together who should be fired. I might be able to correct it sometime. John.
I much prefer the theatrical version with the exorcism at the end, it's a much better ending in my opinion.
Well, that re-hashed version with VHS sequences looked awful to me Gary. I can't understand why anyone would even think of putting that together but I suppose someone thought it would make for better home video sales. John.
"Sorry about this incompetence. The perpetrator has been kicked up the backside!" John, don't berate yourself over such a simple error. We all make them lol.
Anyhoo, prior to the films initial release back in 1990/1991, imagine Blatty going berserk with the level of studio interference here, that ultimately compromised the film as a finished product.
And as others have stated, what a crime the alternate director's cut wasn't archived on 35mm somewhere. Could it really be that difficult?!
We know "director's cut" editions weren't really in vogue back then; does everybody concur it was Cameron with Aliens, and later Lucas with the Star Wars OT "special editions" that started this trend gaining traction?
I think Arrow Films had this so-called 'Director's Cut' put together themselves Andrew according to that opening caption. If it helped shift a few more home video copies and bring some money in then brilliant, but otherwise I can't see the point. It's possible the missing 35mm sequences will turn up as negative or print and someone will be able to do a better job with it. Which is what I should have done with this video! I've looked into all the possibilities with editing within TH-cam or adding a label but there doesn't seem to be anything. A kick up the backside probably wasn't quite enough for that clanger but there's nothing I'm able to do about it now.
John.
Can you see the difference between 2K and 4K? Yes, you can.
On a huge screen I expect you can. But on our tiny home screens you'd have to project them both side by side. John.
"You want to compare The Terminator to 35mm, not the Blu-ray."
Well... it IS an upscale of the Blu-ray's 2K transfer. So...
It’s not. It’s a 4K scan. That has been verified now by the studio.
@DavidDunneUK The remaster transfer comes from a 4K scan that was downscaled and FINISHED at 2K. The 4K UHD is an upscale of that 2K finish. The email you're referring to doesn't dispute this and anyone familiar with AI upscalers like Topaz will spot the AI upscaling artifacts immediately.
4K is intended to replicate the look of film more closely so it should be a good exercise once again. Remember, the main thing is HDR because the increased resolution of 4K over standard Blu-ray is rarely perceptible on our tiny home screens.
John.
@moviecollector5920 Bare in mind during your review that the Terminator 4K has been AI upscaled from 2K and completely denoised in the process, with a fake film grain plate dropped on top later. Film DAMAGE evident on the remastered Blu is present, which gives away that it's from the same source, but film grain has been eliminated and replaced after the fact with a filter or plugin. What you are seeing is 'emulation' of the look of film, rather than a replication.
@@systemmonitor5295 As long as the end result is good, it doesn't matter how it's been achieved. But I will always prefer to watch a real film print so I've just purchased this 4K in the hope of creating an interesting TH-cam video or two. I'll probably never actually watch the 4K disc. John.
Good video however you used the heretic poster for the box office info
Thanks for pointing that out Chris. One day I'll have a go at correcting it. I did pull the right poster down for that very sequence too. What an idiot! John.
@moviecollector5920 easily done
@@chrisburns7979 I'm looking at the possibility of editing that incorrect sequence within TH-cam right now. I won't hold my breath.
@@chrisburns7979 Nope, can't be corrected now it's up. What a surprise... not.
We dont mind John, always enjoy your vids 🫶🏼
If you get chance, watch the Directors cut, its much better, its how it should have been before the studio messed with it putting in the forced exorcism
Unfortunately I did see a couple of the VHS sequences in that which render it unwatchable. It might be alright on a telly I suppose but I don't tend to watch movies on a television. Perhaps one day the 35mm negative sections or rush prints will turn up and then an almost professional assembly can be put together. John.
Furiosa, while an enjoyable film, was a bit of a let down in visual department as I recall from my theatrical experience. Fury Road has a saturated look throughout but Furiosa has tonally naturalist look and that might seem easy on the eyes at first, but the visual effects elements come off as fake-ish in it, particularly in the shots with obvious green screen. I haven't watched any behind the scenes and making of it so I could be wrong about those shots. However in comparison to Fury Road, Furiosa looked altogether inferior to me. Now I don't know if it would look any better in 4K with Dolby vision or HDR. Personally, to enjoy this duology I prefer to watch Furiosa first, as it's the prequel, skip its credits, then proceed with Fury Road as a 2 hour bombastic finale.
I have looked at Furiosa and you're spot on - obvious blue/green screen on quite a few occasions. I think much has a studio bound look, the stunts often look like computer additions and overall the image quality is not up to the film of nine years ago. The sound is pretty fabulous though. I had some trouble with the dialogue at times so I had to turn that up. I intend to play with that again before I think about doing a review. John.
I have never actually watched any of the Exorcist movies
The 1973 original is one of the most historic films ever made Paul. Many imitations have diluted its impact somewhat since then but put your mind back into the early 1970's era and you should still see a masterpiece. A horror made in almost documentary style which is why it had such an impact. The 1990 film is a very good sequel. The 1978 film wasn't. John.
too bad Cameron had to use his Ai Crayons on Terminator... the Blu-Ray from the same scan looks so much more natural
Sometimes video can be messed up by the settings we have on on our systems. Perhaps just double-check again that nothing has switched itself on. I know I keep going on about it but 'sharpen' is the worst offender. That bloody setting engaged itself back on twice on my older 4K video projector and it caused me problems each time before I spotted what had happened.
The Terminator should look exceptionally good on every format because it looked exceptional in the first place. I expect the new 4K was done to look best on huge cinema screens (the few that are left!) so that's likely a factor. Put it on our tiny home screens and it might look too clean and clear.
John.
@moviecollector5920 oh no this has been verified
@@MidnightsEdgeAfterDark If it looks good then what does it matter what has been done to get it there. But if you're happy with the original Blu-ray then stick to that copy. Whatever I think of the 4K, I'll be sticking with the Super 8 feature. John.
@@moviecollector5920 The super 8 is probably the way to go. IT's really sad mainly because it was unnesissary there are a few AI anomolies and it's overly smooth with fake grain laid over top. At least it's working from a 4K source so not as bad as True Lies or Aliens
@@MidnightsEdgeAfterDark I only bought my copy so I could use it in a TH-cam video. I know it's a waste of £20 but what can you get for £20 these days? Not much. If I were to hunt down a Super 8 feature print today I'd probably be looking at around £1K. If new prints were struck they'd be around that figure too. I would expect a 35mm print to cost even more. What I'm saying is, people shouldn't get so worked up about their disappointment with a particular home video disc because they're so comparatively cheap. Watch them again a few years down the line and they may look a whole lot more satisfactory.
John.
The trouble with the directors cut is that it's too on the nose, and unnecessary close-up shots of things that we need to take notice.
It lacks the subtlety that was in the original Exorcist.
I was listening to the Mark Kermode and Kim Newman commentary, and Mark was explaining to Kim what certain scenes meant etc, and I was thinking, if he is having to explain to a horror expert what this scene meant and what that meant, then the film has failed completely.
Maybe William Friedkin would've been better off directing this sequel rather than directing the awful horror movie The Guardian.
The theatrical version is the better of the compromised two, but like Blatty's previous film The Ninth Configuration, which is also a compromised mess & has a multiple versions, he would've been better off just being the script writer rather than a director.
Most of us think Exorcist 3 is a very good sequel Floyd. I shouldn't bother listening to commentaries unless they're featuring the people who made the film, primarily the director, otherwise you might actually be listening to a complete load of tosh. Better to watch the film a second time to get a deeper understanding of what you've seen... or perhaps just stick it on the shelf and get it out again a few years later.
John.
First time viewer.
Your video popped up on my TH-cam page.
*Wow* you have a *8mm negative print* of *terminator* ? What the....
How did you get a negative print of Arnie's 1984 machine movie ?
You mentioned _your friend_ has a *35mm print of terminator* ..
What's the quality like when displaying a negative print compared to the _digital 4k print_ ?
Have you/ TH-camrs brought the amazing *three disc set* of *Garbage pail kids movie* ?
Merry Christmas 2024 everyone
Good to have you here. Derann Film Services issued a whole lot of the top Orion Pictures product in the early 1990's and The Terminator was one of them. It's a first run print so we've had it a long time. I haven't seen Simon's 35mm print - yet - but I did see a general release print in 1984 and it looked pretty terrific. The Terminator has always looked pretty terrific. To my eyes, film is always a more natural looking projected image than video but some of the best cinemas do have exceptionally good video projectors that I probably would still frequent if I hadn't have left London. Most haven't though so I only venture to a cinema these days if I know a film print is being screened. If you've grown up with video though, I dare say most would see video as superior. I grew up with film and that's probably got a lot to do with my love of real film.
John.
Longer videos. Go,off
Sorry Maxwell, I don't know what your saying or asking me here. Please elaborate a little but if you're asking me to make longer videos, I do upload some longer ones on occasion.
John.
@ oh, my apologies, kinda a joke. If you’ve noticed, YT content in general has trended toward longer videos, often much longer. In the past it was thought attention spans would not permit it, long after the length limit was lifted by google. Just throwing my vote in the comments that if you thought your viewers expect videos on the tighter side, I vote that they can be as long as you want. But it’s only license to go off if you want, not that I’m upset that you didn’t. Was also drunk heh. Thanks nice work.
@@Maxwell-u5c Interesting. I tend to find that shorter videos, where I'm reviewing a single 4K disc release, tend to fare better than longer ones. However, when it comes to more interesting subjects such as visits to cinema projection boxes, those can be quite lengthy and generate far bigger numbers of views. It almost seems that the longer they are, the better.
John.