Yes Heath and Rachel I can see what it does at all settings. You have to watch it when you turn it all the Way up. Could be very Dangerous and bad as it would keep going and propell a piece of Wood like a Rocket. I have been Sharpening my Stihl Chains at an Angle of 26 to 28 degrees, on a 63gauge Rapid Super Chain. 3/16 File. Chain is Extremely Sharp, holds its edge longer and also less time to Sharpen it. I found out the Hard Way When I fell out the Wood Pile and the Saw landed on me. Cut me Good, and even with the Chain Brake on. I now Cut the Rounds and use a Fiskers Hookaroon to retrieve them. Great Video as always Heath. See you at the Next one hopefully in 1 piece. Ron from the Woodyard in Duanesburg NY.
Great video Heath!! Great recovery LOL!!! I would recommend that nobody touch their bypass pressure adjustment (on the control valve) without installing a gauge in their system first. That's the adjustment that can be dangerous and get you into some serious trouble. With a gauge you know.... without, you're just guessing and hoping. 3000 psi is probably safe for any commercially produced splitter out there. If you set your bypass above 3000psi, you'd better know what you're doing and what your components are rated for. Overpressure can and eventually will cause whatever the weakest component is in your system to rupture. Hydraulic fluid escaping at 3000+ psi can easily pierce and inject through your skin and into your body through your clothes.... not something you want to mess around with. That would be a trip to the hospital for sure.
Thanks, this system is rated at 4,000psi according to the manual. I agree I am looking in to installing a gauge. I would definitely say this splitter came from the store with that bypass too high. I had to loosen it a little to keep the engine from nearly stalling.
When you adjust the valve on the pump. You are adjusting the unloading valve. The unloading valve controls the high volume side of the pump only. There is no adjustment on the high pressure side of the pump. The high pressure side is putting oil into the system all the time it's running. The valve on the control valve would be the safety relief valve. That should be set to whatever the lowest pressure component is rated for. for example: if the hose is rated for 2500 psi. Then the safety relief would be set to a max of 2500 psi.
Great Video, I have a question since you seem more knowledgeable of hydraulics then I do. My box store splitter 28 ton after about an hour of running my cylinder gets very hot to the touch and seems to lose its splitting power. Could adjusting the pump or the valve help with this issue?
I have a Piece of old Horse Mat on My foot plate for the Stringy stuff. The wedge goes all the way down to the Mat and cuts it clean My wedge goes closer to the Foot plate than Your does tho..
Great video Heath just wanted to let you know that old school Waze is very important and I know you’ve had yours just like I’ve had mine. People can understand when you show them something and it’s very important. Sometime I would love to have a chat have a few questions, I guess we’ll have to see if you trust me or not lol anyway excellent video
You shouldn’t watch this video Phil. Lol. Don’t turn it up too high or you could blow the system and inject yourself with hot hydraulic fluid whit I bet would feel too good.
I have an old yard man I bought from My last Boss's mom and I have no idea how old it is. It would not kick in to stage 2 so that's probably what's worng with it. That and it was not towable is why I bought the 25 ton Country Tuff. Now I want to find a motor for the yard man just to see if that would fix it lol. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for responding. I just bought one of these machines, and was planning on adding a filter. I called tool tuff and they said they were having problems with the filters because of the high flow rate of the splitter (for speed) so they stopped putting filters on them. Might return the splitter but not sure yet.
Another awesome video sir heath your videos are so interesting and informative your a good man mr heath And a big hello to the lovely Mrs Rachel ❤❤❤ Take care god bless love you both
PSI X GPM ÷ 1714 = . the amount of hp needed to generate a given amount of hydraulic force, without taking losses in efficiency in to account. . So say 3,500psi X 16gpm ÷ 1714 = 32-ish hp With a one stage pump, you would need that much hp to generate the force. Stage 2 gpm amounts are rarely advertised.
@@BGWenterprises The flow rates are actually printed/stamped right onto the pump itself. I’ve been able to take every splitter I’ve looked at and go to the catalog at surplus hydraulic and look up the flow rates, max pressure and transfer pressures.
No issues. My country pro (same as a county line) 25T has a transfer pressure at 800 psi and a stall pressure of 3600 psi. Look at the model data plate. You’ll see the model number most likely start with YTL. So most of those box store splitters are made by YTL. So what color do you want? I’d say find the lowest priced machine. I mounted a pressure gauge on mine. If people have the county line, they seriously would want to consider converting from a 13mm pump to valve hose and go to a 19mm or 3/4” hose. One MAJOR thing to point out. Cheap hydraulic hoses are often only rated for 2200-2500 psi. You can blow a line like that if you are installed it on a machine putting out 3500-4000 psi pressure.
That makes sense. If you get a gauge on your machine, I’d adjust that pressure relief to 3900 psi. The pump you should be able to find the specs in the catalog at surplus hydraulic. But you can set it to 900 psi. That would be a top notch running machine.
I can't agree with this video because Joe public is going to try this and not knowing how powerful hydraulic is and could possibly get hurt then it's your fault I hope I'm wrong, I would not have done any adjustments without a pressure gauge. I've worked 45 years in the marine industry and I've seen what hydraulics can do, it's not a toy or pretty.
Ben, I appreciate the honest feedback. I am truly Joe public learning as I go. Do you disagree with the 1-2 stage adjustment or the hydraulic bypass? Again trying to learn and share.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors I usually work the valve with a gauge with the customer watching but no way I'll give him information why and how I do the adjustments. For the simple reason if at home he turns the pressure up, keep in mind a 1/4 turn means trouble. I have a book for piston size and psi that's what scares me.
Hey Guys. That would be fun to mess around with and test the different transfers. Thanks for showing.
Kenny, it’s amazing how much the proper settings can improve a splitter.
Yes Heath and Rachel I can see what it does at all settings. You have to watch it when you turn it all the Way up. Could be very Dangerous and bad as it would keep going and propell a piece of Wood like a Rocket.
I have been Sharpening my Stihl Chains at an Angle of 26 to 28 degrees, on a 63gauge Rapid Super Chain. 3/16 File. Chain is Extremely Sharp, holds its edge longer and also less time to Sharpen it.
I found out the Hard Way When I fell out the Wood Pile and the Saw landed on me. Cut me Good, and even with the Chain Brake on.
I now Cut the Rounds and use a Fiskers Hookaroon to retrieve them. Great Video as always Heath. See you at the Next one hopefully in 1 piece. Ron from the Woodyard in Duanesburg NY.
Thanks Ron, definitely glad nothing bad happened. It’s properly adjusted now!
Great video Heath!! Great recovery LOL!!!
I would recommend that nobody touch their bypass pressure adjustment (on the control valve) without installing a gauge in their system first. That's the adjustment that can be dangerous and get you into some serious trouble. With a gauge you know.... without, you're just guessing and hoping. 3000 psi is probably safe for any commercially produced splitter out there. If you set your bypass above 3000psi, you'd better know what you're doing and what your components are rated for. Overpressure can and eventually will cause whatever the weakest component is in your system to rupture. Hydraulic fluid escaping at 3000+ psi can easily pierce and inject through your skin and into your body through your clothes.... not something you want to mess around with. That would be a trip to the hospital for sure.
Thanks, this system is rated at 4,000psi according to the manual. I agree I am looking in to installing a gauge. I would definitely say this splitter came from the store with that bypass too high. I had to loosen it a little to keep the engine from nearly stalling.
Great video. Really cool you are a normal person who makes mistakes. You did a fantastic job explaining the fix.
Thank you, I definitely make mistakes from time to time. I learn from them and try to help others learn as well.
When you adjust the valve on the pump. You are adjusting the unloading valve. The unloading valve controls the high volume side of the pump only. There is no adjustment on the high pressure side of the pump. The high pressure side is putting oil into the system all the time it's running. The valve on the control valve would be the safety relief valve. That should be set to whatever the lowest pressure component is rated for. for example: if the hose is rated for 2500 psi. Then the safety relief would be set to a max of 2500 psi.
Thank you George. I am going to look into adding a gauge to it for safety!
Great video!! Lots of people don't know this!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Thanks David, I agree!
Hello Heath I love your channel because of your honesty & getting to the point with great truth Thank You Heath for being awesome.....
Thank you Ryan! Appreciate the feedback.
This is a good learning tool, thanks Heath😃
Thanks Brian.
Thanks Heath for not taking mine and others comments as just being another “safety sally” stab.
Good job on explaining both settings in this video 👍
Absolutely, I know hydraulics are nothing to take lightly. I did my best to share what I learned. Always learning and trying to help others.
Great Tutorial Mr Heath
Thanks Mike.
Great explanation Heath. We might need to start calling you “Hydraulic Working Man”!
lol, not to sure about that. I am learning though.
Great Video, I have a question since you seem more knowledgeable of hydraulics then I do. My box store splitter 28 ton after about an hour of running my cylinder gets very hot to the touch and seems to lose its splitting power. Could adjusting the pump or the valve help with this issue?
Sorry, I am not sure on this one.
That is a good tutorial. Nice job.
Thanks Russ !
I have a Piece of old Horse Mat on My foot plate for the Stringy stuff.
The wedge goes all the way down to the Mat and cuts it clean
My wedge goes closer to the Foot plate than Your does tho..
That’s a good idea.
Great video as always, brother. Thank you for the good information! Chip
Thanks Chip!
Great video Heath just wanted to let you know that old school Waze is very important and I know you’ve had yours just like I’ve had mine. People can understand when you show them something and it’s very important.
Sometime I would love to have a chat have a few questions, I guess we’ll have to see if you trust me or not lol anyway excellent video
Definitely! Appreciate the feedback and always learning.
Well now I know why Dana has never shown me how to do this 😂 he always makes me turn around when he’s adjusting ole buster .
I adjust and modify every thing lol .
Phill scrub that from your mind..
You shouldn’t watch this video Phil. Lol. Don’t turn it up too high or you could blow the system and inject yourself with hot hydraulic fluid whit I bet would feel too good.
Great video. Well explained. That gap at the end of the stroke is so you don’t cut your fingers off. That’s my guess. 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋
I think so as well or to speed up the stated cycle time. Thanks Noel.
👍🏻
Great video
Thank you.
I have an old yard man I bought from My last Boss's mom and I have no idea how old it is. It would not kick in to stage 2 so that's probably what's worng with it. That and it was not towable is why I bought the 25 ton Country Tuff. Now I want to find a motor for the yard man just to see if that would fix it lol. Thanks for the info.
I bet there’s a good chance that was it.
Tool tuff is where I got the 19gpm pump I was talking about lol
I know they make a variety of items.
Heath great 👍 advice and excellent camera work Rachel 😮😊❤
Thanks Todd. She did great also. The sun was tuff to contend with.
Hey Heath , good info . 👍🏻
Thank you Del!
What do think of the hyper split not having a hydraulic oil filter?
I really wish it had one and may add one myself. Seems like a non worthwhile skimp on their part.
Thanks for responding. I just bought one of these machines, and was planning on adding a filter. I called tool tuff and they said they were having problems with the filters because of the high flow rate of the splitter (for speed) so they stopped putting filters on them. Might return the splitter but not sure yet.
Good info! I wondered.
Thanks Robert!
Another awesome video sir heath your videos are so interesting and informative your a good man mr heath
And a big hello to the lovely Mrs Rachel ❤❤❤
Take care god bless love you both
Thanks David!
Is there any adjustment that I can make to make my cycle time faster
Bigger hoses, pump, or different cylinder but empty cycle time doesn’t have an adjustment that I know of.
hi there fun show , the fast splitter is a signal stage , it never slows down , best to all john
yep... but you need a LOT of horsepower for the tough stuff if you want to go fast!
Yes, I was telling Bobby from All Wood about your splitter again the other day. He said it was really nice meeting you at Bunyan.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors hi there all those guys were a step above , john
Good stuff Heath👊🏻🇺🇸
Thanks Todd!
Hello Heath, good info👍🇺🇸
Thanks guys! By no means an expert but I love learning and sharing.
PSI X GPM ÷ 1714 =
.
the amount of hp needed to generate a given amount of hydraulic force, without taking losses in efficiency in to account.
.
So say 3,500psi X 16gpm ÷ 1714 = 32-ish hp
With a one stage pump, you would need that much hp to generate the force.
Stage 2 gpm amounts are rarely advertised.
@@BGWenterprises
The flow rates are actually printed/stamped right onto the pump itself.
I’ve been able to take every splitter I’ve looked at and go to the catalog at surplus hydraulic and look up the flow rates, max pressure and transfer pressures.
Thanks, some good information!
You'll know just by the performance. You. don't need an injection injury.
True. Hopefully it helps others know how to adjust it and the possible risks that was initially unaware of.
I forgot to thank you how abhorrent is that?
@@stephenreiner1523 no worries! As always we appreciate the feedback and comments!
Hiii friend 👍
Hello!
That’s called transfer pressure.
Most 2-stage pumps want that pressure around 800-1000 psi.
Thanks, definitely not an expert on terminology. Just trying to help with what I’ve benefited from.
No issues.
My country pro (same as a county line) 25T has a transfer pressure at 800 psi and a stall pressure of 3600 psi.
Look at the model data plate. You’ll see the model number most likely start with YTL. So most of those box store splitters are made by YTL. So what color do you want? I’d say find the lowest priced machine.
I mounted a pressure gauge on mine.
If people have the county line, they seriously would want to consider converting from a 13mm pump to valve hose and go to a 19mm or 3/4” hose.
One MAJOR thing to point out.
Cheap hydraulic hoses are often only rated for 2200-2500 psi.
You can blow a line like that if you are installed it on a machine putting out 3500-4000 psi pressure.
@@diywithjonandpebbles according to the manual this unit is rated at 4,000psi.
That makes sense.
If you get a gauge on your machine, I’d adjust that pressure relief to 3900 psi.
The pump you should be able to find the specs in the catalog at surplus hydraulic. But you can set it to 900 psi. That would be a top notch running machine.
I can't agree with this video because Joe public is going to try this and not knowing how powerful hydraulic is and could possibly get hurt then it's your fault I hope I'm wrong, I would not have done any adjustments without a pressure gauge. I've worked 45 years in the marine industry and I've seen what hydraulics can do, it's not a toy or pretty.
Ben, I appreciate the honest feedback. I am truly Joe public learning as I go. Do you disagree with the 1-2 stage adjustment or the hydraulic bypass? Again trying to learn and share.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors I usually work the valve with a gauge with the customer watching but no way I'll give him information why and how I do the adjustments. For the simple reason if at home he turns the pressure up, keep in mind a 1/4 turn means trouble. I have a book for piston size and psi that's what scares me.
@@bendugas8632 thank you.