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Somehow we got the Punk Frogs, but when dhampirs came up we didn't get Vampire Hunter D, Blade, nor even Magiere (Saga of the Noble Dead). In the words of Evil Hercules, "Very DISAPPOINTEEEED!" Edit: Also, Raphtalia from Rising of the Shield Hero would show off the Verdan thing since she goes for beastkin child to adult when she hits a certain level.
I have a kid in my group who wanted to play as a Grung after messing around on Hero Forge one day. He's low-key been the strongest member of the group playing a Swarmkeeper Ranger whose swarm resembles tadpoles, and he loves to make use of basically every racial feature he has, like jumping and climbing. I've been delighted at how much fun he's had with it and how distinctive a Grung can be.
I love the idea of a paladin dhampir that smites through their fangs as they're never unarmed and can climb up walls to possibly get to ranged or flying enemies
@@codybohyer1107 It says in the description that the fangs are considered simple melee weapon. You should be able to smite with them. Also, you can cast magic weapon on them for some reason 🤔
@@codybohyer1107 sorry, the description of the Dhampir's fangs. "Your fanged bite is a natural weapon, which counts as a simple melee weapon with which you are proficient." Since you can smite "when you hit a creature with a melee weapon attack" and that the fangs are considered simple melee weapons, I don't see the poblem.
Love that Verdan are finally getting the spotlight. It was my first race when I started playing 5e and holds a special place in my heart. They're unapologetically weird and I love everything about them.
Verdan was my first race aswell. For real i searched the web for like every race out there and now Anon (Midargh Sol'Anon) is one of my most beloved companions hehe Verdans are funny - especially if your dm always pulls the: "Oh you are a suprisingly big goblin, my friend..." And I took it to an Vrrdan bard cuz they travel and it justs suits them
Reminder about the Dhampir: the bite attack counts as a simple natural weapon, not an unarmed strike. Meaning, it can be a Monk weapon, and scale up its damage die with Monk levels, or the fun part: you can Smite with it. Also, I'm fairly certain it can become your Hex Weapon as a Hexblade Warlock. Enjoy!
Martial arts could scale it even if it were an unarmed strike, notably that makes it not become magical at 6. Paladin can smite unarmed, but not improved divine smite at 11, so slight boost there.
@@better8655 Paladins cannot smite unarmed per a Sage Advice, unfortunately. It's a whole thing with the difference between melee weapon attacks and melee attacks with a weapon. The distinction is so rare but it's something that needs to be checked here and there.
@@danieljohnson9917 divine smite specifies "melee weapon attack". The sage advice actually goes on to talk about the following line about "in addition to the weapon's damage." being what stops it. Then further stating that their choice to tie it to weapons is purely thematic, and no balance issues arise from allowing unarmed smites.
Because it counts as a weapon and not body parts you can also make a warlock that can store away his magical teeth with.. pact of the blade? If I remember correctly
I named mine 'Froggit' because he was a forgetful frog. The entire oneshot I kept make puns that were frogfully attrocious and unforgettable. My entire table was so sick of it that my friend still shutters when I remind him of my ribbeting character
@@pegaferno4429 I adore the name Froggit because if you emphasize it a certain way you're just saying a slur at the table. My group of edgy queer people would go nuts with that
I once made a Grung Genie Warlock for one reason and one reason only. I had the inside of his Genie's Vessel just be a big ol' terrarium, that was it. I just happened to have the idea and loved it so much I ran with it. Also I came up with a reborn character but haven't had a chance to play them as of yet. Simply put they're a bard and put the 'death' into death metal, the basic backstory idea was they woke up in a cemetry along with a couple others and started an undead band until a cleric saw them and jumped the gun with destroy undead, which only he survived, talked to and explained to the cleric (who then felt really bad about the whole misunderstanding). He is now on a journey to form a new band.
Grung - Frog People 0:20 Reborn - Reborn race as another race 02:33 Kalashtar - Human combined with Spirit of Realm of Dreams 06:34 Dhampir - Vampires the race 08:19 Verdan - Goblins that grow as you level up 10:25
I played a Barbarian in a game with a Kalashtar Bard and I never once considered how busted it would be if I were one as well. I wish I had! (Though it was homebrew and our DM liked to... let's say "bend" a lot of rules about races. Like that they can't dream- he made it a plot linchpin that the Kalashtar Bard... dreams. -.- )
Glad to see Verdan here. I've built a verdan Twilight Cleric and the advantage on wis saves was great, I was pretty much guaranteed to never suck a wisdom save and recover the group from their failures, as well as helping on my charisma saves. Resilient Int was the final nail on the structure so that I was the unbreakable mental wall on my group.
I had a brief opportunity to play as a Kalashtar Cleric I had made and one of the first encounters we had was with a group of Kenku. The party was on a search and rescue mission, so after fighting the Kenku, we got one to surrender, and I had the pleasure of realizing that Mind Link - by the wording of the ability - would allow me to bypass the Kenku's inability to speak outside of mimicry to have a proper conversation through telepathy. I was quite proud of myself for that one.
Thank you so much for bringing the Verdan up in your video! I've never heard of this race before but after reading up on them I officially think they have my favorite lore for a race, now I really want to play one!
You didn’t talk about it but I fell in love with shifter most recently. They used to only be able to shift once per short rest which was really situational, but now it’s tied to proficiency per long rest. One specific interaction is the Wildhunt shifter + Barbarian, while shifted no attack within 30 feet of you can benefit from advantage; so essentially if there aren’t ranged combatants you get reckless attack with no drawbacks 👍🏼
I've done a Wildhunt Barb before and the first time I recklessed and my DM tried to do the advantage attack against me, the "Well actually no" moment was great. 100% best race for Barbs.
@@Shalakor it does unfortunately. However if your dm allows it sometimes you can shift right before combat if you can see it coming, lessening the downsides. But by turn 2 you feel pretty badass
Another great way for wild hunt is ranged martials or spellcasters combined with the athlete feat. Kite them and go prone at the end of your turn, if they can't catch up, they get disadvantage, if they can catch up they don't get advantage. For ranged martials I reccomend rangers with Zephyr strike (if you can somehow get it Ashardalons stride or Kinetic jaunt or for gishes like bladesingers, swords/valor bards, armorer/battle smith, eldritch knight or arcane trickster) or echo knight for a free disengage, while only spending 5ft to get back up.
Finally I see some love for the Verdan race. I made a Verdan Barbarian that lived for centuries due to plot reasons and his appearance is that of a small, old, and frail goblin, but when he rages he gets taller, stronger, and noticeably younger (example: from 80 to 40).
I once played a human barbarian of the beast, but as a vampire, draining bite, walking on walls, supernatural strenght. He presented himself as a bard and only used a longsword. His main weapons were his bit and coiling grasp tattoo which he used to grapple enemies at a distance and 'take a bite". He was by far my most unique barbarian given that he just looked like a pale white haired guy with black pants and a white shirt. His main focus was roleplay and intrigue which he exceeded at.
Saw the first Verdan picture, thought "she's cute", saw the others and realized "That's Piccolo! They did Piccolo's species from Dragon Ball Z!" And the abilities seem to bear that out, too!
I was very glad to see the Reborn and Dhampir when they were released, because I remember the good old days of abusing the hell out of templates in 3.5. I went heavy on the minmaxing and weirdness when I played one, making a Reborn Aarakocra Aberrant Sorcerer. Some fishermen dredged a drowned bird man out of the bay, who woke up to discover that most of his memories had been scooped out and replaced by a... presence from so deep in the Feywild that it was hard to tell apart from the Far Realm...
@@Lostangel1000 honestly, after I commented. I looked up whether or not a portable hole can carry water. My DM is going to be starting a new campaign soon, I think I'll ask if I can have a one. I know they're rare but would be cool. Like a portable pool to take my long/short rests in.
Honestly, a bit homebrew, but XGE grants you a free common magical item. I would argue that a wetsuit (a cloth keeping your skin moist in any environment) would be trinket to common level at best. And it makes sense that the grung would team up with water genasi for their adventurers to overcome such a limitation.
I have a dhampir druid and I love him :) we had a big fight where I went unconscious and our barbarian forced my fangs into his arm to allow me to heal back to consciousness. It was fuckin awesome!
I use the 5th Edition Character Sheet App, and I'm assuming the Kalashtar was renamed as Dreamtouched in it. Lol sounds like a great character to build
I'm actually playing a Grunk Monk and it's a lot of fun, though we worked out with the DM that the poison only applies on grappled or spear (in my pc's case) - a fist is not enough surface. I solved the Water thing with a Mage Initiate Cleric for Shape Water. Although you missed *1 more downside to Grund - they don't get Common by default, only Grung* so you need to take a Background that give you a language option.
Shape Water isn't on the cleric list, and while it would be helpful, it requires you to already have some water. I assume you mean Create and Destroy Water. That's actually kind of smart. Magic Initiate only gives you one free casting per long rest, which matches the frequency you need to soak in water.
@@Greywander87 Sorry, meant to say Druid (forgot which one, I remembered it was the Wis based), I got Create and Destroy Water, Shape Water and Guidance with it.
The Ancestral Legacy lineage stuff like replacing existing character traits and the movespeeds are only for when the template is applied to an existing character, it even states directly in the ancestral legacy portion "If you don't keep any of those elements or you choose this lineage at character creation, you gain proficiency in two skills of your choice." If you pick the Reborn at character creation, all you get is 2 free skill proficiencies, still pretty decent. Only way to be a flying Reborn is if you pick a flying race at creation and then later your DM allows you to become reborn
Just remeber to check with your DM, since RAW you can't create an owlin-dhampir straight on the character sheet, check out the Ancestral Legacy part of the lineage
A reborn flying tiefling sound super cool. A tiefling that had wings stitched on it and brought back to life, his purpose is to figure out how he even died and why he was specifically brought back to life.
In a game I ran, 1 of my players played a Grung Druid who I allowed to ride on the shoulders of the Warforged Fighter since they have resistance to poison, they also had a blowgun that they covered the darts with there own poison
This video actually helped me finish up a character concept I've been working on. I'm building a Frankenstein-ish Monk, and just could not figure out how to do the race option as I had no idea that Reborn was a thing.
One combination I love to use is the goliath spellcaster. Sorcerers are notorious for being squishy, not so much with a goliath. Especially if you use a goliath hexblade warlock, pact of the blade. Can be a very nice combination.
I was about to comment that being a Grung is pretty awesome, I used my secretion of poison to make poison weapons such as sack of poison, poison smoke when burning it (teas a stretch), antidotes, and poison tipped weapons such as spears, javelins, daggers, arrows, etc. Loved playing it and will definitely play more similar characters.
Gotta love my minotaur melee characters since if you take sentinel, you can action attack, bonus action hammering horns to shove your enemy 10 ft away, triggering sentinel for another attack and setting their movement speed to 0 (Also, love your content!)
Shoves/forced movements (other than "force them to use their movement speed to move" a la Dissonant Whispers/Fear) do not provoke Attacks of Opportunity
Fun trick with damphir: If you take the spell alter self (and your DM approves this) You can buff your bite attack to 1d6. in addition, if you can add additional damage to the attack (like Giants Might on Rune Carver for example, it could stack with the bite damage. So potentially, you could have a damphir with a bonus 2d6 + Con damage, healing or buffing yourself. (I do this maybe too often at my table)
4:25 this feature saved me in curse of strahd. The dm had me make an inteligence check to launch a nuke destroying Strahd’s castle and I added this d6 which just barely made the DC 25
Played a monk grunge once with the poisoner feat. Nothing like high jumping in an allyway, sticking to the wall and jump attacking someone for 1d6 + 2d4 (shortsword+grunge poison) and/or damage, 2d8 (poisoner feat poison, you have a free supply of poisonin your skin) and then punching them for the chance to give them the poisoned condition
4:43 reborns are awesome even without flight. Knowledge from a past life has made my grave cleric a meme, between that, Guidance and inspiration from the group's bard my cleric can turn a 13 in a 23 in a skill check. I'm using it for knowledge checks, which is cool since it gives the master the right to infodump the lore of his world.
I think people forget about the Verdan due to it being only in the Acquisitions Inc. book. I'm also shocked you didn't bring up the Hexblood...or did you do that one already? I can't remember. Some of these races are also dependent on your DM. I played Shifters and Kalashtar since 3rd edition and I really love both those races. However, Hexblood really took a spot recently.
All the Van Richten lineages are awesome. Dhampir barbarian would be nutty since you only really need is str, con, dex. Now just picture a hungry raging person charging up a wall to slash at you.
It might be a little less mechanically cheesy, but my favorite subclass for a kalashtar barbarian has to be Ancestral Guardian. I just love the character concept of being tied to this spirit that manifests in your body and beats up your enemies for you when you rage. (Also an incredible hook for a warlock patron, especially since I can think of more than one subclass you could plausibly reskin.)
Great choices, would like to point out that Vedalken get advantage on intelligence, wisdom and charisma saving throws. But that's about it so I see why they didn't make the list. Love the content that you make, keep up the great work.
That was super fun, thanks for sharing! Also, you gave me a fantastic idea for one of the characters I play. He's an ancestral barbarian, goliath, with eldritch claw tattoos so he can literally punch ghosts. His team is called the Ghost Punchers, and we "investigate" supernatural events. And punch them. I'm going to talk to our most frequent DM to see what he thinks about making him Reborn.
I love thr Kenku, the little birdpeople with the ability to mimic voices and noises... Dont know if the race is still in the game, it has been on 3.5 😅
So I know he didn't mean for that Yuan-Ti Abomination to be taken literally, but I just thought it was funny that the monster he used for the Grung poison discussion is immune to poison
I had an idea for a Grung Way of the Shadows monk named Gren. In order to counter his need to submerge himself, he would carry a gord on his back full of water that he could sleep or meditate in. That way he got his much needed hydration and also fun role play tidbits. Like having party members knock on the gord to wake him up. lol
A neat thing with dhampir monks is that their bite can be used as a monk weapon. Technically, you still have to use Con for the attacks since the martial arts feature allows Dex instead of Strength. If you’re lucky, maybe your DM would let you use Dex. The real benefit, however, is that your bite will increase with your martial arts die. So, either more healing or higher bonus potential as you grow in levels. Plus, who doesn’t want to stunning strike after a chomp?
Better yet, kensei monks can use some (but not all) of their features to make the bite even better. Add a martial arts die to the bite, make it a magical +3, and you've got a pretty nice attack which then gives pretty big healing/bonus to a check.
Thanks for featuring Verdan. I hadn't ever heard of them, but them like a good choice for a mounted build, since they can grow with their mounts., and maybe talk to them as well. Plus they are Gobo, and I heart Gobo!
3:22 I went þo check and the first trait for any lineage says: Ancestral Legacy. If you replace a race with this lineage, you can keep the following elements of that race: any skill proficiencies you gained from it and any climbing, flying, or swimming speed you gained from it. If you don't keep any of those elements or you choose this lineage at character creation, you gain proficiency in two skills of your choice. Important part: If you choose this lineage at character creation, you gain proficency in two skill So no, you can not start the game as flying reborn
In one of my campaigns, my character was this huge, super buff Tiefling paladin, and one of my friends was playing a Grong monk. I had a big barrel full of water on my back that I carried around so my friend could hop into it whenever he needed. It also made for some pretty good surprise attacks
I'm playing as an Owlin Reborn in a game. It's kind of bonkers. Owlin Dhampir are also very good, since the fly speed matches the walking speed. Plus, Spider Climb+Flight offers unparalleled mobility.
I played a Verdan Bardlock in my last campaign, I had a lot of fun roleplaying the growth spurt over a few sessions and had him sleep a lot more than normal while it was happening. I also had him wearing clothes like skirts and loose shirts with rolled up sleeves until he'd finished growing.
I have a Grung who was once a human investigator before an evil wizard cursed him to life as Grung. He's like a Sherlock/Noir detective and I love that character so much, LOL.
I've been running a Dhampir Bloodhunter as my favorite race/class combo since I started playing DnD. The bloodhunter is amazing with it because the health you lose can be mitigated by Vampiric Bite. Order of the Lycan or Ghostslayer is amazing with it.
@@jayredharpstudios9672 They are an interesting class created by Matt Mercer who is a well renowned creator of rules which a lot of people consider to be true rules. Anyway, bloodhunters are a class that trades health in order to increase attack damage. They're pretty much purely stat checkers which is always nice. I was a lvl 3 with 22 AC and as Dhmapir you can heal yourself through biting as your attack or at higher levels use bonus action for it. Different lvl 3 branches you can take different bonuses, even turning into a Lycan who has even higher stats.
@@Wittehh ah, I see I never watched any with Matt Mercer in it so I guess I don't understand the high pedestal that people put him and now I get the whole thing with Bloodhunters
Just played a reborn this week. I was hoping to get knocked down so I could roll death saves, but hasn't come up yet. Advantage on death saves is very powerful. Most characters have at least a +2 to CON so you are probably making the save most of the time. And you have a 1 in 400 chance of rolling two nat 1's, so you probably won't get the dreaded double fail.
I made a Grung Lore Bard/Spore Druid for this one shot that was a dungeon crawler, Using his sticky hands, jump distance/height and invisibility he was able traverse the dungeon pretty freely, then if I was ever pressed in battle I could combine the claw attack druids have with my poison skin for a nasty combo, then I was immune to poison, and had the Absorb element reaction spell from druid as well. It was just a nasty build and I definitely plan on making another Grung in the future.
When I was younger I watched a show called kulipari. It was a cartoon about super-powered frogs with special venom, and now I can play them with the grung race.
You tecnically don't start the game as an owlin reborn, because the lineage system says that if you pick this lineage at character creation you just choose 2 skills (which is why you have to earn the lineage through roleplay so you can have your flying zombie / swimming witch / centaur dhampir characters)
I'm currently using Reborn to play a civil war era soldier who has been isekai'd by the Raven Queen to serve as one of her elite assassins in a fantasy campaign. (fighter/warlock/sorc)
Ooh my DM actually let me play a Kalashtar who was apart of a cult that forcibly replaced the spirit she originally had with fragments of their gods! It was super super fun and I loved playing it out. The telepathy mind link they have was also really fun to play with.
This is my favourite DnD races video ever, mostly cos all the races I've played are in this lmao. My first character was a Verdan, the second, a Reborn and the newest, a Dhampir
pro tip for anyone making a Dhampir character sneak attack is great for Vampiric Bite because you regain hit points equal to how much piercing damage you do so if you do more damage you regain more hit points and sneak attacks add a certain amount of D6's to the damage roll depending on your rogue level if you have advantage or are within 5ft and since your biting someone your probably within 5ft
Hands down my favourite character I've ever played was Frunk, the funky, krunk fighting monk Grung. That used canoe salesman led to some of the most fun I've ever had, poisoned punches for everyone!
I’ve played a (slightly home brewed) grung and I wanna say playing one of these funky guys is awesome and I wish to see a frog army campaign come into existence someday
So ages ago I made an Elven Dhampir Rogue/Paladin. My DM just looked at me wondering who hurt me in the past... LOL Still was funny to see a Paladin walking on the walls, or when it was upside down walking along the underside of a tree branch. Also... Paladin of Glory.. so... 35 walking speed and Haste equaled a monk who couldn't understand why the Paladin in breastplate armor could go faster than she could.
Grung: I'd say there's an issue with how good the poisoned condition is here because so many things are resistant or immune to poison that you're building around an ability that'll get stuffed in time, and anything with a halfway decent con-save will eventually become effectively immune to it.
If you start the game as a lineage, you cant get any of the special movements like flying 'If you replace a race with this lineage, you can keep the following elements of that race: any skill proficiencies you gained from it and any climbing, flying, or swimming speed you gained from it. If you don't keep any of those elements or YOU CHOSE THIS LINEAGE AT CHARCTER CREATION, you gain proficiency in two skills of your choice.'
@@cado9281 A DM could give any race flying speed due to rule 0, but the text of the Ancestral Legacy feature makes it clear that if you select one of the lineages at character creation you do not have the option to gain flying speed as part of that feature.
i recently played a Dhampir Astral Self Monk. My DM worked with me cos i wanted to incorporate the bite ability into attacks so we reworked it allowing me to substitute 1 attack per turn with it (still limited by prof bonus/rest), made the damage and healing scale with the martial arts dice and changed it from alternatively granted a flat bonus based on damage dealt, to instead grant advantage on the next attack role made against that target. since we were playing a campaign where a d8 was the highest hit dice of all the players, it made it much more enjoyable from a thematic perspective and meant that our only front line character wasnt instantly dead or heavily damage with little to save himself with when combat would go south. put less stress on the cleric who was the only one able to heal anyone else and allowed us alot more freedom to enjoy the game (Monk, Cleric, Warlock, Sorcerer was the party make up)
I once played a Grung Druid. My brother, who was DMing at the time, was a bit iffy on the idea because he couldn't find any official source for them. But he allowed it. Basically he ran a challenge tower where each floor was randomly generated, with a different set of enemies for each of them. Well we got to a vampire, and I had this bright idea where my brother's friend threw a bag of bone meal, and use a fire spell (I forgot which) on it. Suffice to say Dale's Pseudo Fireball is now banned from our table.
@@cooltrainervaultboy-39 oh snap, he did it in an enclosed space? Haha, wow, that reminds me of a meme where the wizard cast fireball at an object that amplified magic 100x it's normal power. Definitely earned the ire of the table, lol.
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Somehow we got the Punk Frogs, but when dhampirs came up we didn't get Vampire Hunter D, Blade, nor even Magiere (Saga of the Noble Dead). In the words of Evil Hercules, "Very DISAPPOINTEEEED!"
Edit: Also, Raphtalia from Rising of the Shield Hero would show off the Verdan thing since she goes for beastkin child to adult when she hits a certain level.
Verdan + sun soul monk +star druid = Piccolo
I kinda want to see you do a Collab with Dungeon Dad. Not sure how it would work.
Except that vampires cant cross running water and also treat it like acid
I have a kid in my group who wanted to play as a Grung after messing around on Hero Forge one day. He's low-key been the strongest member of the group playing a Swarmkeeper Ranger whose swarm resembles tadpoles, and he loves to make use of basically every racial feature he has, like jumping and climbing. I've been delighted at how much fun he's had with it and how distinctive a Grung can be.
Thats actually such an interesting concept ngl
All hail grung bou
thats kinda awesome
I created a reborn minotaur character that is the party's resident necromancer, and it's hilarious how scary powerful he is.
@@nicwaples6020 honestly that's pretty awesome
As a Reborn you only get the "movespeed" like the flying speed of your previous race. That means you can wear heavy armor and still fly.
yeah, but common sense exist lol
I would guess its up to rulings honestly. Because I would guess if u get conditional move speed it should remain conditional
RAW that may be true, but 9 in 10 DM's will reject that.
@@RealLifeIronMan I'm the only one lol
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With a decent strength score i would allow it at my table
I love the idea of a paladin dhampir that smites through their fangs as they're never unarmed and can climb up walls to possibly get to ranged or flying enemies
Unfortunately you can't smite with unarmed strikes or natural weapons, unless there is an errata that I am not aware of.
@@codybohyer1107 It says in the description that the fangs are considered simple melee weapon. You should be able to smite with them. Also, you can cast magic weapon on them for some reason 🤔
@@bozieu in the description of what? Please cite sources.
@@codybohyer1107 sorry, the description of the Dhampir's fangs. "Your fanged bite is a natural weapon, which counts as a simple melee weapon with which you are proficient."
Since you can smite "when you hit a creature with a melee weapon attack" and that the fangs are considered simple melee weapons, I don't see the poblem.
@@bozieu oh cool, so it's a racial ability specific to them that lets it count as a weapon. That's awesome. Thank you for enlightening me.
Love that Verdan are finally getting the spotlight. It was my first race when I started playing 5e and holds a special place in my heart. They're unapologetically weird and I love everything about them.
I, too, have a Verdan - a bard, who paints and likes shoes and is definitely not a horny bard.
I don't think many people know acquisitions incorporated is a thing honestly. Never heard of verdan before
@@Vawk20 never heard of them either.
Verdan was my first race aswell. For real i searched the web for like every race out there and now Anon (Midargh Sol'Anon) is one of my most beloved companions hehe Verdans are funny - especially if your dm always pulls the: "Oh you are a suprisingly big goblin, my friend..."
And I took it to an Vrrdan bard cuz they travel and it justs suits them
Reminder about the Dhampir: the bite attack counts as a simple natural weapon, not an unarmed strike. Meaning, it can be a Monk weapon, and scale up its damage die with Monk levels, or the fun part: you can Smite with it. Also, I'm fairly certain it can become your Hex Weapon as a Hexblade Warlock. Enjoy!
Martial arts could scale it even if it were an unarmed strike, notably that makes it not become magical at 6. Paladin can smite unarmed, but not improved divine smite at 11, so slight boost there.
@@better8655 Paladins cannot smite unarmed per a Sage Advice, unfortunately. It's a whole thing with the difference between melee weapon attacks and melee attacks with a weapon. The distinction is so rare but it's something that needs to be checked here and there.
@@danieljohnson9917 divine smite specifies "melee weapon attack". The sage advice actually goes on to talk about the following line about "in addition to the weapon's damage." being what stops it. Then further stating that their choice to tie it to weapons is purely thematic, and no balance issues arise from allowing unarmed smites.
It'd also trigger with the war cleric 8th level ability giving you another 2d8 piercing damage to add to the healing or bonus to rolls
Because it counts as a weapon and not body parts you can also make a warlock that can store away his magical teeth with.. pact of the blade? If I remember correctly
My first group I was banned from playing Grung because they didn't like my Kermit voice, I have never been more discriminated for success
Did you also lust after pigs and sing songs?
How dare they
I named mine 'Froggit' because he was a forgetful frog. The entire oneshot I kept make puns that were frogfully attrocious and unforgettable. My entire table was so sick of it that my friend still shutters when I remind him of my ribbeting character
@@pegaferno4429 I adore the name Froggit because if you emphasize it a certain way you're just saying a slur at the table. My group of edgy queer people would go nuts with that
@@abj6920 I've never leaped to that conclusion before, the possibilities are ribbiting.
I once made a Grung Genie Warlock for one reason and one reason only. I had the inside of his Genie's Vessel just be a big ol' terrarium, that was it. I just happened to have the idea and loved it so much I ran with it.
Also I came up with a reborn character but haven't had a chance to play them as of yet. Simply put they're a bard and put the 'death' into death metal, the basic backstory idea was they woke up in a cemetry along with a couple others and started an undead band until a cleric saw them and jumped the gun with destroy undead, which only he survived, talked to and explained to the cleric (who then felt really bad about the whole misunderstanding). He is now on a journey to form a new band.
This sounds amazing
Love both those concepts!
Love it!!!
Grung - Frog People 0:20
Reborn - Reborn race as another race 02:33
Kalashtar - Human combined with Spirit of Realm of Dreams 06:34
Dhampir - Vampires the race 08:19
Verdan - Goblins that grow as you level up 10:25
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I like the idea of a Verdan Hexblade with their pact Longsword hitting 5th level and the next time they summon their pact weapon, it's a Greatsword.
Oooo, now that's a cool idea.
I have to admit I felt " Dirty" playing a Kalastar Barbarian, and I loved it.
*Laughs in Emerald dragonborn bear totem* i love it so much lmao.
I assume you mean a totem barbarian as there are tons of subclasses, my favorite of which is the ancestral one. So tanky you make others tank.
I played a Barbarian in a game with a Kalashtar Bard and I never once considered how busted it would be if I were one as well. I wish I had! (Though it was homebrew and our DM liked to... let's say "bend" a lot of rules about races. Like that they can't dream- he made it a plot linchpin that the Kalashtar Bard... dreams. -.- )
Glad to see Verdan here. I've built a verdan Twilight Cleric and the advantage on wis saves was great, I was pretty much guaranteed to never suck a wisdom save and recover the group from their failures, as well as helping on my charisma saves. Resilient Int was the final nail on the structure so that I was the unbreakable mental wall on my group.
I had a brief opportunity to play as a Kalashtar Cleric I had made and one of the first encounters we had was with a group of Kenku. The party was on a search and rescue mission, so after fighting the Kenku, we got one to surrender, and I had the pleasure of realizing that Mind Link - by the wording of the ability - would allow me to bypass the Kenku's inability to speak outside of mimicry to have a proper conversation through telepathy. I was quite proud of myself for that one.
Thank you so much for bringing the Verdan up in your video! I've never heard of this race before but after reading up on them I officially think they have my favorite lore for a race, now I really want to play one!
You didn’t talk about it but I fell in love with shifter most recently. They used to only be able to shift once per short rest which was really situational, but now it’s tied to proficiency per long rest.
One specific interaction is the Wildhunt shifter + Barbarian, while shifted no attack within 30 feet of you can benefit from advantage; so essentially if there aren’t ranged combatants you get reckless attack with no drawbacks 👍🏼
I've done a Wildhunt Barb before and the first time I recklessed and my DM tried to do the advantage attack against me, the "Well actually no" moment was great. 100% best race for Barbs.
It does take until turn 2 to set up, though, right? Since Shifting and Rage are both bonus actions? That's a bit of a tradeoff/drawback.
@@Shalakor it does unfortunately. However if your dm allows it sometimes you can shift right before combat if you can see it coming, lessening the downsides. But by turn 2 you feel pretty badass
Another great way for wild hunt is ranged martials or spellcasters combined with the athlete feat. Kite them and go prone at the end of your turn, if they can't catch up, they get disadvantage, if they can catch up they don't get advantage. For ranged martials I reccomend rangers with Zephyr strike (if you can somehow get it Ashardalons stride or Kinetic jaunt or for gishes like bladesingers, swords/valor bards, armorer/battle smith, eldritch knight or arcane trickster) or echo knight for a free disengage, while only spending 5ft to get back up.
Finally I see some love for the Verdan race. I made a Verdan Barbarian that lived for centuries due to plot reasons and his appearance is that of a small, old, and frail goblin, but when he rages he gets taller, stronger, and noticeably younger (example: from 80 to 40).
I remember making a Verdan at some point and my DM said no since he didn't want homebrew in his campaign.... So yeah the Verdan aren't that well known
Should have shown him the official rulebook. You are lucky if you play in english, cuz it hasn't been translated yet - at least not into german
I once played a human barbarian of the beast, but as a vampire, draining bite, walking on walls, supernatural strenght. He presented himself as a bard and only used a longsword. His main weapons were his bit and coiling grasp tattoo which he used to grapple enemies at a distance and 'take a bite". He was by far my most unique barbarian given that he just looked like a pale white haired guy with black pants and a white shirt. His main focus was roleplay and intrigue which he exceeded at.
Cant wait for you to talk about the plasmoids, it’s my favorite race.
He already did i think
Saw the first Verdan picture, thought "she's cute", saw the others and realized "That's Piccolo! They did Piccolo's species from Dragon Ball Z!" And the abilities seem to bear that out, too!
I was very glad to see the Reborn and Dhampir when they were released, because I remember the good old days of abusing the hell out of templates in 3.5. I went heavy on the minmaxing and weirdness when I played one, making a Reborn Aarakocra Aberrant Sorcerer. Some fishermen dredged a drowned bird man out of the bay, who woke up to discover that most of his memories had been scooped out and replaced by a... presence from so deep in the Feywild that it was hard to tell apart from the Far Realm...
I've honestly never heard of the Verdan race before but I need to try them out
I think that came from the Acquisitions Incorporated book.
I wanted to play a Grung, but the need to be submerged in water was too much to overcome in the campaign we were playing. Water wasn't very abundant.
Decanter of Endless Water and a barrel?
@@Lostangel1000 Probably a desert setting, where water is for the rich or smth.
@@Lostangel1000 honestly, after I commented. I looked up whether or not a portable hole can carry water. My DM is going to be starting a new campaign soon, I think I'll ask if I can have a one. I know they're rare but would be cool. Like a portable pool to take my long/short rests in.
Honestly, a bit homebrew, but XGE grants you a free common magical item.
I would argue that a wetsuit (a cloth keeping your skin moist in any environment) would be trinket to common level at best. And it makes sense that the grung would team up with water genasi for their adventurers to overcome such a limitation.
Cleric/warlock multiclass so you can cast create water and regain it on a short rest.
I have a dhampir druid and I love him :) we had a big fight where I went unconscious and our barbarian forced my fangs into his arm to allow me to heal back to consciousness. It was fuckin awesome!
I use the 5th Edition Character Sheet App, and I'm assuming the Kalashtar was renamed as Dreamtouched in it. Lol sounds like a great character to build
That's correct 👍 great app
I'm actually playing a Grunk Monk and it's a lot of fun, though we worked out with the DM that the poison only applies on grappled or spear (in my pc's case) - a fist is not enough surface.
I solved the Water thing with a Mage Initiate Cleric for Shape Water. Although you missed *1 more downside to Grund - they don't get Common by default, only Grung* so you need to take a Background that give you a language option.
Shape Water isn't on the cleric list, and while it would be helpful, it requires you to already have some water. I assume you mean Create and Destroy Water. That's actually kind of smart. Magic Initiate only gives you one free casting per long rest, which matches the frequency you need to soak in water.
Please say they are a Drunken master eith personal hygiene issues so you can poison people with the Funk of the Drunk Grunk Monk
@@Greywander87 I think he meant Druid.
@@Greywander87 Sorry, meant to say Druid (forgot which one, I remembered it was the Wis based), I got Create and Destroy Water, Shape Water and Guidance with it.
@@owenthompson4071 Sorry, Astral Self - he's a purple Frog with a Stand ^^
I don't play DnD but I'm fascinated by the lore. Love this channel just for the charisma and enthusiasm you bring to the topic. Great job buddy
The Ancestral Legacy lineage stuff like replacing existing character traits and the movespeeds are only for when the template is applied to an existing character, it even states directly in the ancestral legacy portion "If you don't keep any of those elements or you choose this lineage at character creation, you gain proficiency in two skills of your choice." If you pick the Reborn at character creation, all you get is 2 free skill proficiencies, still pretty decent.
Only way to be a flying Reborn is if you pick a flying race at creation and then later your DM allows you to become reborn
Having played a Grung Monk, that poison damage is no joke. Carried me through several encounters!
So now I need to try and slip a Reborn Man-Bat (reflavored Owling) into my next game. SO cool!
Just remeber to check with your DM, since RAW you can't create an owlin-dhampir straight on the character sheet, check out the Ancestral Legacy part of the lineage
Reborn Aarakocra… flavored as a humanoid Pelican … with the Sailor background.
Name ?
Popeye, obviously!
My first DnD campaign started around 1.5months ago and I've been playing as a Kalashtar Barbarian after remembering this video.
Grung pirates sound like a lot of fun. Either as something you play or as a crew of fun characters that your players can bump into on their adventure.
A reborn flying tiefling sound super cool. A tiefling that had wings stitched on it and brought back to life, his purpose is to figure out how he even died and why he was specifically brought back to life.
Editing is improving with every video
Too bad about the spelling...
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 boohoo
In a game I ran, 1 of my players played a Grung Druid who I allowed to ride on the shoulders of the Warforged Fighter since they have resistance to poison, they also had a blowgun that they covered the darts with there own poison
Finally some Verdan appreciation
This video actually helped me finish up a character concept I've been working on. I'm building a Frankenstein-ish Monk, and just could not figure out how to do the race option as I had no idea that Reborn was a thing.
One combination I love to use is the goliath spellcaster. Sorcerers are notorious for being squishy, not so much with a goliath. Especially if you use a goliath hexblade warlock, pact of the blade. Can be a very nice combination.
My first d&d character was a Dhampyr. The campaign fizzled out after the fourth session, but I had fun playing a half-vampire monk while it lasted. :)
I was about to comment that being a Grung is pretty awesome, I used my secretion of poison to make poison weapons such as sack of poison, poison smoke when burning it (teas a stretch), antidotes, and poison tipped weapons such as spears, javelins, daggers, arrows, etc. Loved playing it and will definitely play more similar characters.
the grung suits the variant feature ranger because of the tireless feature at level 10 negating the exhaustion
Gotta love my minotaur melee characters since if you take sentinel, you can action attack, bonus action hammering horns to shove your enemy 10 ft away, triggering sentinel for another attack and setting their movement speed to 0
(Also, love your content!)
If I recall correctly, forced movement does not trigger opportunity attacks.
Shoves/forced movements (other than "force them to use their movement speed to move" a la Dissonant Whispers/Fear) do not provoke Attacks of Opportunity
Fun trick with damphir:
If you take the spell alter self (and your DM approves this) You can buff your bite attack to 1d6. in addition, if you can add additional damage to the attack (like Giants Might on Rune Carver for example, it could stack with the bite damage. So potentially, you could have a damphir with a bonus 2d6 + Con damage, healing or buffing yourself. (I do this maybe too often at my table)
4:25 this feature saved me in curse of strahd. The dm had me make an inteligence check to launch a nuke destroying Strahd’s castle and I added this d6 which just barely made the DC 25
Verdan are awesome! Thanks for covering them.
Played a monk grunge once with the poisoner feat. Nothing like high jumping in an allyway, sticking to the wall and jump attacking someone for 1d6 + 2d4 (shortsword+grunge poison) and/or damage, 2d8 (poisoner feat poison, you have a free supply of poisonin your skin) and then punching them for the chance to give them the poisoned condition
4:43 reborns are awesome even without flight. Knowledge from a past life has made my grave cleric a meme, between that, Guidance and inspiration from the group's bard my cleric can turn a 13 in a 23 in a skill check. I'm using it for knowledge checks, which is cool since it gives the master the right to infodump the lore of his world.
I… did not know about 3 of these… looks like I’m going to be spending the next 24 hours straight diving into D&D races again 😅
I currently play a Reborn Bloodhunter Artificer multiclass. It's amazing.
I think people forget about the Verdan due to it being only in the Acquisitions Inc. book. I'm also shocked you didn't bring up the Hexblood...or did you do that one already? I can't remember. Some of these races are also dependent on your DM. I played Shifters and Kalashtar since 3rd edition and I really love both those races. However, Hexblood really took a spot recently.
All the Van Richten lineages are awesome. Dhampir barbarian would be nutty since you only really need is str, con, dex. Now just picture a hungry raging person charging up a wall to slash at you.
Awesome video keep up the great work! Verdan looks really cool think I'll try that out in the next campaign I'm in!
It might be a little less mechanically cheesy, but my favorite subclass for a kalashtar barbarian has to be Ancestral Guardian. I just love the character concept of being tied to this spirit that manifests in your body and beats up your enemies for you when you rage. (Also an incredible hook for a warlock patron, especially since I can think of more than one subclass you could plausibly reskin.)
I currently play a Verdan and I love the flavour they get and the 5level size boost was so fun to integrate in our story
Great choices, would like to point out that Vedalken get advantage on intelligence, wisdom and charisma saving throws. But that's about it so I see why they didn't make the list. Love the content that you make, keep up the great work.
Always appreciate your hard work, Shorts. Helps me to figure out what resource books to look at. 📚✌️
That was super fun, thanks for sharing! Also, you gave me a fantastic idea for one of the characters I play. He's an ancestral barbarian, goliath, with eldritch claw tattoos so he can literally punch ghosts. His team is called the Ghost Punchers, and we "investigate" supernatural events. And punch them. I'm going to talk to our most frequent DM to see what he thinks about making him Reborn.
I love thr Kenku, the little birdpeople with the ability to mimic voices and noises... Dont know if the race is still in the game, it has been on 3.5 😅
So I know he didn't mean for that Yuan-Ti Abomination to be taken literally, but I just thought it was funny that the monster he used for the Grung poison discussion is immune to poison
I had an idea for a Grung Way of the Shadows monk named Gren. In order to counter his need to submerge himself, he would carry a gord on his back full of water that he could sleep or meditate in. That way he got his much needed hydration and also fun role play tidbits. Like having party members knock on the gord to wake him up. lol
A neat thing with dhampir monks is that their bite can be used as a monk weapon. Technically, you still have to use Con for the attacks since the martial arts feature allows Dex instead of Strength. If you’re lucky, maybe your DM would let you use Dex. The real benefit, however, is that your bite will increase with your martial arts die. So, either more healing or higher bonus potential as you grow in levels.
Plus, who doesn’t want to stunning strike after a chomp?
Better yet, kensei monks can use some (but not all) of their features to make the bite even better. Add a martial arts die to the bite, make it a magical +3, and you've got a pretty nice attack which then gives pretty big healing/bonus to a check.
My current character for the tomb of annihilation is a grung divination wizard named tiddalick. A lot of fun to play but definately a challenge.
Thematically, a Reborn makes an awesome Path of the Zealot Barbarian…
Hell yeah!! Thanks for covering the Verdan.
Thanks for featuring Verdan.
I hadn't ever heard of them, but them like a good choice for a mounted build, since they can grow with their mounts., and maybe talk to them as well.
Plus they are Gobo, and I heart Gobo!
3:22 I went þo check and the first trait for any lineage says:
Ancestral Legacy.
If you replace a race with this lineage, you can keep the following elements of that race: any skill proficiencies you gained from it and any climbing, flying, or swimming speed you gained from it.
If you don't keep any of those elements or you choose this lineage at character creation, you gain proficiency in two skills of your choice.
Important part: If you choose this lineage at character creation, you gain proficency in two skill
So no, you can not start the game as flying reborn
In one of my campaigns, my character was this huge, super buff Tiefling paladin, and one of my friends was playing a Grong monk. I had a big barrel full of water on my back that I carried around so my friend could hop into it whenever he needed. It also made for some pretty good surprise attacks
The Kalashtar sounds amazing, thats my favorite out of the 5. Second place is Grung. If i ever get to play D&D in my life, i will be a Kalashtar!
If Spelljammer gave us anything it's gotta be the Autognome. Very awesome race.
I'm playing as an Owlin Reborn in a game. It's kind of bonkers.
Owlin Dhampir are also very good, since the fly speed matches the walking speed. Plus, Spider Climb+Flight offers unparalleled mobility.
I played a Verdan Bardlock in my last campaign, I had a lot of fun roleplaying the growth spurt over a few sessions and had him sleep a lot more than normal while it was happening. I also had him wearing clothes like skirts and loose shirts with rolled up sleeves until he'd finished growing.
I have a Grung who was once a human investigator before an evil wizard cursed him to life as Grung. He's like a Sherlock/Noir detective and I love that character so much, LOL.
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0:43 Did he say Sticky Fingers?!???? That’s a Jojo Reference
I've been running a Dhampir Bloodhunter as my favorite race/class combo since I started playing DnD. The bloodhunter is amazing with it because the health you lose can be mitigated by Vampiric Bite. Order of the Lycan or Ghostslayer is amazing with it.
What are Bloodhunters? I'm relatively new to DnD and I don't watch Critical Role or any DnD campaigns
@@jayredharpstudios9672 They are an interesting class created by Matt Mercer who is a well renowned creator of rules which a lot of people consider to be true rules. Anyway, bloodhunters are a class that trades health in order to increase attack damage. They're pretty much purely stat checkers which is always nice. I was a lvl 3 with 22 AC and as Dhmapir you can heal yourself through biting as your attack or at higher levels use bonus action for it. Different lvl 3 branches you can take different bonuses, even turning into a Lycan who has even higher stats.
@@Wittehh ah, I see I never watched any with Matt Mercer in it so I guess I don't understand the high pedestal that people put him and now I get the whole thing with Bloodhunters
One of these days I am going to make a Grung Assassin Rogue
i played Kalashtar moon druid and being able to communicate while in wild shape is very nice
The underrated races just keep coming
Just played a reborn this week. I was hoping to get knocked down so I could roll death saves, but hasn't come up yet. Advantage on death saves is very powerful. Most characters have at least a +2 to CON so you are probably making the save most of the time. And you have a 1 in 400 chance of rolling two nat 1's, so you probably won't get the dreaded double fail.
I want to be a Gring whose skin excretes a hallucinogenic. Straight poison is cool, but make the enemy tripping balls? Even better.
For a one-shot, I played a grung bloodhunter and dealt that extra poison damage alongside Crimson rite damage, it was so fun
I made a Grung Lore Bard/Spore Druid for this one shot that was a dungeon crawler, Using his sticky hands, jump distance/height and invisibility he was able traverse the dungeon pretty freely, then if I was ever pressed in battle I could combine the claw attack druids have with my poison skin for a nasty combo, then I was immune to poison, and had the Absorb element reaction spell from druid as well. It was just a nasty build and I definitely plan on making another Grung in the future.
I love the Grung. I wrote a Grung Monk/Druid Circle of land (swamp obviously). He's awesome.
When I was younger I watched a show called kulipari. It was a cartoon about super-powered frogs with special venom, and now I can play them with the grung race.
You tecnically don't start the game as an owlin reborn, because the lineage system says that if you pick this lineage at character creation you just choose 2 skills (which is why you have to earn the lineage through roleplay so you can have your flying zombie / swimming witch / centaur dhampir characters)
It also is more fair that way. Because you'd NEVER play just an owlin if you could heal with blood, do witch things, or us zombie powers.
Ayo the bg for Dhampr @ 8:19
I'm currently using Reborn to play a civil war era soldier who has been isekai'd by the Raven Queen to serve as one of her elite assassins in a fantasy campaign. (fighter/warlock/sorc)
Ooh my DM actually let me play a Kalashtar who was apart of a cult that forcibly replaced the spirit she originally had with fragments of their gods! It was super super fun and I loved playing it out. The telepathy mind link they have was also really fun to play with.
This helped me so much dude thank you so much
This is my favourite DnD races video ever, mostly cos all the races I've played are in this lmao. My first character was a Verdan, the second, a Reborn and the newest, a Dhampir
pro tip for anyone making a Dhampir character sneak attack is great for Vampiric Bite because you regain hit points equal to how much piercing damage you do so if you do more damage you regain more hit points and sneak attacks add a certain amount of D6's to the damage roll depending on your rogue level if you have advantage or are within 5ft and since your biting someone your probably within 5ft
A bite isn't a ranged or finesse weapon. Can't sneak attack with it.
@@Stormthorn67 thanks for correcting me, I completely forgot I made this comment so I probably forgot that rule as a well
Hands down my favourite character I've ever played was Frunk, the funky, krunk fighting monk Grung. That used canoe salesman led to some of the most fun I've ever had, poisoned punches for everyone!
I’ve played a (slightly home brewed) grung and I wanna say playing one of these funky guys is awesome and I wish to see a frog army campaign come into existence someday
So ages ago I made an Elven Dhampir Rogue/Paladin. My DM just looked at me wondering who hurt me in the past... LOL Still was funny to see a Paladin walking on the walls, or when it was upside down walking along the underside of a tree branch. Also... Paladin of Glory.. so... 35 walking speed and Haste equaled a monk who couldn't understand why the Paladin in breastplate armor could go faster than she could.
Grung: I'd say there's an issue with how good the poisoned condition is here because so many things are resistant or immune to poison that you're building around an ability that'll get stuffed in time, and anything with a halfway decent con-save will eventually become effectively immune to it.
If you start the game as a lineage, you cant get any of the special movements like flying
'If you replace a race with this lineage, you can keep the following elements of that race: any skill proficiencies you gained from it and any climbing, flying, or swimming speed you gained from it.
If you don't keep any of those elements or YOU CHOSE THIS LINEAGE AT CHARCTER CREATION, you gain proficiency in two skills of your choice.'
Depends on the dm
@@cado9281 A DM could give any race flying speed due to rule 0, but the text of the Ancestral Legacy feature makes it clear that if you select one of the lineages at character creation you do not have the option to gain flying speed as part of that feature.
@@rowanjohnson6947 I completely agree, I just feel it is more likely for a dm to allow a reborn flyspeed than, say, a tortle
I made a Khalashtar Grave cleric on a curse of Strahd campaign, it was so much fun the whole way
i recently played a Dhampir Astral Self Monk. My DM worked with me cos i wanted to incorporate the bite ability into attacks so we reworked it allowing me to substitute 1 attack per turn with it (still limited by prof bonus/rest), made the damage and healing scale with the martial arts dice and changed it from alternatively granted a flat bonus based on damage dealt, to instead grant advantage on the next attack role made against that target.
since we were playing a campaign where a d8 was the highest hit dice of all the players, it made it much more enjoyable from a thematic perspective and meant that our only front line character wasnt instantly dead or heavily damage with little to save himself with when combat would go south. put less stress on the cleric who was the only one able to heal anyone else and allowed us alot more freedom to enjoy the game (Monk, Cleric, Warlock, Sorcerer was the party make up)
I once played a Grung Druid. My brother, who was DMing at the time, was a bit iffy on the idea because he couldn't find any official source for them. But he allowed it.
Basically he ran a challenge tower where each floor was randomly generated, with a different set of enemies for each of them. Well we got to a vampire, and I had this bright idea where my brother's friend threw a bag of bone meal, and use a fire spell (I forgot which) on it. Suffice to say Dale's Pseudo Fireball is now banned from our table.
Not sure why he banned it. That's an awesome use of smarts.
@@chastaylor7372 it resulted in an almost TPK.
@@cooltrainervaultboy-39 oh snap, he did it in an enclosed space? Haha, wow, that reminds me of a meme where the wizard cast fireball at an object that amplified magic 100x it's normal power. Definitely earned the ire of the table, lol.