Apologies! We misspoke. While Vokey wedges are forged for Japanese and Tour models, they aren’t forged for the majority of the market. Sorry for the error and hope y’all enjoy.
The Vokeys played by the PGA Tour guys are not forged, they are cast as well. None of the Vokeys made for/sold in the US market are forged. The forged Vokeys are Japan-market only.
I feel like a lot of commenters here watched a different video than I did. I think he was fairly transparent about him obviously having bias because of his experience and the custom nature of the clubs and thats why he had a 3rd party there who said the inconsistent nature of the contact and the numbers showed that the Artisan wedges were performing better. He was also getting 4k less spin with a higher loft with the kirkland 52* compared to the Artisan 49*. Not a good thing for wedges. For people saying its hating on the people who cant afford $1,000 for wedges, he mentions he knows that its not an accessible thing for everyone and he also said the better solution than the Kirklands would be to get used wedges that are major brands for close to the same amount of money. As someone who was a fitter for major companies and who also worked in the used club space, I would agree with that. That being said, there is nothing wrong with the Kirkland clubs if thats what you have but they will limit lower handicap players moreso than some good quality used wedges from a more established brand.
Agree with most of this outside of the used wedge option. Being a fitter myself, golfers tend to use wedges far longer than they should and the grooves wear down substantially. I believe the new grooves on the Kirkland's would outperform other used wedges, this again is assuming one is paying the same price (apples-to-apples comparison). However, the moral of the story is to consider going through a wedge fitting to find out what works best.
@ashtonoppermangolf for sure on some used wedges having worn grooves but going to the used section of a golf galaxy or pga superstore, opposed to online, you can make sure the used wedge you're getting is in good shape but yes, definitely something you need to pay close attention to.
The Costco wedges are giving just what they were built for. Weekend golfer 15 to 28 handicap or new golfer. Perfectly marketed at a place where you but bulk toilet paper and ketchup. I am an 18 handicap, 67 years old and I own the Kirkland putter. I love it. My game doesn't justify a 600.00 Scottie Cameron putter. The guy who carries that putter carries personalized 1000.00 wedges. I really enjoy the channel.
The Kirklands are 10 percent the cost and play 90 plus percent as well Artisan clubs(which are fully customized to your swing). The three reasons I could think of to get the Artisan's would be to support American manufacturing, if your game is at the collegiate level or better, or you just like the idea of nice looking clubs.
You could arguably get kirklands loft, lie adjusted and ground for you, getting that last 10 percent. If you already have the shafts from your wedges, your all the way there.
why would I care about supporting American manufacturing? if the kirklands and artisan are comparable, then yes I would go for the local maker. if i am on a budget then kirkland would be my choice. i would choose artisan if I can afford it and it will improve my score.
Biggest differences between the two are going to be sole grind and tolerances. Artisan will custom grind the soles for your specific swing pattern and the turf conditions you play in most, and the wedges will be spot-on in terms of specs and weighting. The Kirklands are just cast blanks with generic, wider soles and no specific grind. Fine for most casual players, but it's amazing how much difference the right sole grind can make in terms of contact, where you contact it on the face, and getting through the sand/turf.
Interesting. I bought some of the original Kirkland wedges (just for fun) and they spin like crazy. I tested them against Vokey's (and a few others) and they (Kirks) were spinning significantly more. My only real complaint(s) are the grips feel too thin, and the they are super shiny, so they can blind you on a sunny day. But performance was as good or better than the more expensive brands, and they feel fine. Also, pretty sure Vokey's are not forged 🤔 I kind think you talked yourself (likely subconsciously) into the result you found. You definitely seemed to swing the expensive clubs with more speed and confidence.
Kirkland are great. My buddy has them and I think they’ll work as well as any non fitted wedge for you. If I was new to golf or a budget I’d get the Kirkland any day!
@@TheEdiaz91 I previously played vokey SM9 52/56 and RTX zipcore's 52/56/60 prior to that. Got the gen 2 Kirkland wedges (this years model) after trying a few rounds with last years gen 1 kirklands and for the price, they are absolutely unbelievable. I think a lot of it comes down to preference, but for the price of 3 wedges and their quality - it's unbeatable.
We had a set of the Kirkland wedges and a putter donated to my work and the boss let me scoop them. I take them out as my pitch and putt set and they work well enough. In a blind shootout I think most people would have a difficult time distinguishing the Kirklands from Vokey, Cleveland whatever etc. It's only the horrendous Kirkland branding that tips them off as being "cheaper" clubs.
what choice did he have? he spent a lot of money for the artisan clubs. if they are not significantly better than the kirkland clubs, then he will appear to be as a fool!!
dude... rgc used to be my favourite yt golf channel.. until this video. I loved the artisan video. Good for you, showing off the amazing work of those guys... getting an amazing set of custom high end wedges, sweet as... but seriously, for you, and for most golfers that arn't close to the ver y top end of ball strikers, the Kirklands are extremely good value for money. At the level of you, and most golfers, strike is the most important thing as long as the club is halfway decent.
Kirkland wedges are very light, if they use s400 shafts, I bet you they will perform more like the $1000 clubs on most swings. But the custom wedges looks awesome! I am sure the bounce and grind is better for chipping around the green.
Feel is very important in golf clubs and confidence makes you hit a club better 🤷♂️ doesn’t have to be an expensive club it’s all about how the club feels and reacts in your hands
I am on my second set of wedges; nothing beats just texting Jamie and new wedges are made up! For me its the grind that is just perfect on each of the wedges. Disclaimer i have irons and putter that i also love.
How was this ever not going to be biased lol..... $200 for 3 wedges is enough to get quality that most of us mortals can apply to get to limits of our skill. All this high end stuff is reaching into the pockets of those who want to feel special about the gear.
Agreed. I am a fan of this channel but suggesting that I'm not a "real player" because I have a set of Kirkland wedges is a really privileged thing for him to have said. I'm a single handicap golfer, which I consider "real" but just so happen to be a teacher so I'm not made of money. haha I'll keep buying the clubs that I can both hit AND afford...
@@ParawayGolf I'm a fan but it took a dent today ! Not the content I support TBH. If I could buy these Kirkland Wedges here I would no probs, great to see value options IMHO. Also single handicap.
It's no different than any other tool. If you're building a deck on a single wide mobile home a Walmart hammer is fine. If you're building a custom cabinet in a nice home, you use precision tools. Put those Kirk's on the bench and I guarantee you the loft on the bottom doesn't match what they really are. I don't get the hate in this comment section.
@@thomastrain7311 There will always be the "Hooray Henrys" who buy the latest expensive kit to show off. Golf equipment is about selling hope or status. Kirkland is just saying come and play these will do the job just fine. I hear the Kirkland balls are ok as well.
@@thomastrain7311 This analogy doesn’t make much sense. Building a deck on a mobile home likely takes more skill than building a cabinet in a nice house. 😅
Interesting. Why were the first-generation Kirkland wedges used? I took mine out of the bag after 3 years and recently replaced them with Cleveland. I like the different sole grinds of the Cleveland wedges more.
Definitely looks and sounds like you all talked yourself into the Artison wedges, definitely not worth 3 and half times the price. Nice wedges but kind of ridiculous considering all the custom shops out there.
So the concussion that I'm seeing is, expensive clubs won't make a person a better ball striker. The Kirklands perform equal to or better than some big name clubs.
Cut the BS man, they play very similar. You also misinform saying the vokeys are forged? LOL you don't know what you are saying and are comparing two different wedges that play very similar. One is just better looking than the other.
I watched that to drool over the artisan wedges, 'the oven' man, if the out the box Kirkland had been better I would have been miffed, like you said at end beginner wedge set, once you have idea of bounce that suits you the second hand option good idea, I got really good deal on vega's and itobori, they hadn't been hit
Maybe a stupid question, where does one find a range like this? The only ones I can find near me are podunk knock offs of Topgolf with some bays to hit off mats and a horrible patchwork of crabgrass they call a lawn. Both of which suck to hit off of.
How many out there that can take FULL advantage of a Porsche GT3 vs a Mazda Miata? I am a new golfer and I am totally happy with my Kirkland wedges. Maybe someday I can both afford and use a more expensive set of wedges.
The moment he opened a custom set of personalized wedges from Artisan, I knew we would get some user-influenced flaws in the Kirkland’s. If I can pay $900 less and still get 85% of the performance of the $1,000 wedges, I’m saving that $900 and putting it toward lessons.
Well, I'll always play Vokeys, but if I got the Kirkland wedges, I'd take them to my friendly neighborhood club maker and have them bent to my loft (depending on the bounce), lie angle, and I'd have him put some shafts in that match my current set. Easy.
I wanted som takomo wedges but if your tall like me can't play off the rack wedges . Divot is bigger because the shafts are regular flex. If I some how got a set of artisan wedges I'd never hit them lol I wouldn't want to destroy them
I feel like all the "craftsman" narrative is 80% bs and 20% valid. I'd rather have 3 vokeys with the same weight and bounce due to cast, than one artisan with the videos of the guy meticulously eyeballing the grinds.....tour pros are using cast vokeys......that should tell u something...but i use scratch wedges (cast) from 13 yrs ago...so what do i know....
I wonder how well the Kirklands would perform with a better shaft. Dynamic Gold S300s or even Apollo shafts are not very expensive and reshafting might solve some of the contact issues you were having and improve the swing feel. Those stock shafts are probably meant for a slower swing speed player. I personally struggle with a lot of off the rack wedges because they are too light and whippy. As a result, the release is hard to control and contact is inconsistent. Stiffer, heavier wedges are just more consistent. A lot of tour players have heavier wedges as well. Thankfully, reshafting irons / wedges with steel shafts is relatively easy to do. Alternatively, you could partner with a local custom club maker to reshaft them, get the flex profile, total weight, length, lie, and swing weight to be similar to the more expensive wedges, then retest. I highly doubt you would end up spending $900 to refit those wedge heads. A follow-up video would be great to see and perhaps spark an interesting adventure into the world of custom clubs (Maltby, etc.).
Not to be that guy but to totally be that guy there's a fundamental misunderstanding in the difference between forged and cast clubs here. Same steel composition with the same heat treatment 99% of people won't notice the difference. The difference people claim there is between forged and cast in terms of feel is a fallacy of perception of price and "quality". High end forged clubs will "out perform" lower end cast because the high end starts with a very homogenous billet of good steel and will have countless hours of work put into them. Compare that to a cheaper cast club that may not have the best steel and just run through an assembly line to get as many out the door as possible. It just comes down to do you want to sell a little for a lot or sell a lot for a little. Like people have been saying in the comments Vokeys aren't forged but people think they're forged because of the price, perception, and reputation. Also scientifically speaking there is no measurable difference between raw face and coated face wedges.
As I watch the Women’s US Open, I think the next Breaking should be where they play. As a 4 handicap I always think I could do ok, but I am delusional! I want to see how much they dominate golf vs us hacks.
Kirklands are good not great wedges. I had an instant improvement when I switched to vokeys the weighting is way superior. Pure spin I’m sure they are similar.
Only minutes in and I can tell this vid is CAP. of course you have a lower loft it’s gonna go further. Ofcourse if the loft is higher you’ll have a deeper divot. I don’t own Kirkland but there is NO WAY your clubs are 10X better.
As much as I would love to get my hands on Artisans wedges, i can't justify the cost versus the Kirkland. 1, my wife would kill me and 2 I would be wasting my money. Being a high handicapper and playing once or twice a month, the Kirkland wedges is perfect for me in terms of cost.......especially cost, playability and everything else. If I was swimming in a money everyday, then sure why not but otherwise no thanks.
Man I love your content but trying to sell people on 1000 dollar wedges is crazy I play vokey wedges but I use the Kirkland irons I’m a 15 handicap and let me tell you they work just as good as regular “expensive” irons it’s the player not the club
Vokey is not FORGED. And I remember when you started. Now it’s beneath you to play a brand like Kirkland. A have an old friend that was on Tour. Grew up poor. Very poor. He once said he would have played with anything you would have given him. No fitting available. I think if your game holds up, it holds up. Artisian will not win you majors. 😂
Apologies! We misspoke. While Vokey wedges are forged for Japanese and Tour models, they aren’t forged for the majority of the market.
Sorry for the error and hope y’all enjoy.
This makes a massive difference to my life and I don’t know what to do with myself. Like many here, my life is now completely conflicted. Ffs
The Vokeys played by the PGA Tour guys are not forged, they are cast as well. None of the Vokeys made for/sold in the US market are forged. The forged Vokeys are Japan-market only.
When did RGC become a hypebeast premium offering? Come on guys.
I feel like a lot of commenters here watched a different video than I did. I think he was fairly transparent about him obviously having bias because of his experience and the custom nature of the clubs and thats why he had a 3rd party there who said the inconsistent nature of the contact and the numbers showed that the Artisan wedges were performing better. He was also getting 4k less spin with a higher loft with the kirkland 52* compared to the Artisan 49*. Not a good thing for wedges. For people saying its hating on the people who cant afford $1,000 for wedges, he mentions he knows that its not an accessible thing for everyone and he also said the better solution than the Kirklands would be to get used wedges that are major brands for close to the same amount of money. As someone who was a fitter for major companies and who also worked in the used club space, I would agree with that. That being said, there is nothing wrong with the Kirkland clubs if thats what you have but they will limit lower handicap players moreso than some good quality used wedges from a more established brand.
Agree with most of this outside of the used wedge option. Being a fitter myself, golfers tend to use wedges far longer than they should and the grooves wear down substantially. I believe the new grooves on the Kirkland's would outperform other used wedges, this again is assuming one is paying the same price (apples-to-apples comparison). However, the moral of the story is to consider going through a wedge fitting to find out what works best.
@ashtonoppermangolf for sure on some used wedges having worn grooves but going to the used section of a golf galaxy or pga superstore, opposed to online, you can make sure the used wedge you're getting is in good shape but yes, definitely something you need to pay close attention to.
@@jameszaimes7407what do you guys think about sites like Rock Bottom Golf to get used irons and wedges?
The Costco wedges are giving just what they were built for. Weekend golfer 15 to 28 handicap or new golfer. Perfectly marketed at a place where you but bulk toilet paper and ketchup. I am an 18 handicap, 67 years old and I own the Kirkland putter. I love it. My game doesn't justify a 600.00 Scottie Cameron putter. The guy who carries that putter carries personalized 1000.00 wedges. I really enjoy the channel.
The Kirklands are 10 percent the cost and play 90 plus percent as well Artisan clubs(which are fully customized to your swing). The three reasons I could think of to get the Artisan's would be to support American manufacturing, if your game is at the collegiate level or better, or you just like the idea of nice looking clubs.
Fourth reason: You can afford it.
You could arguably get kirklands loft, lie adjusted and ground for you, getting that last 10 percent. If you already have the shafts from your wedges, your all the way there.
@@tubopedia true
why would I care about supporting American manufacturing? if the kirklands and artisan are comparable, then yes I would go for the local maker. if i am on a budget then kirkland would be my choice. i would choose artisan if I can afford it and it will improve my score.
Biggest differences between the two are going to be sole grind and tolerances. Artisan will custom grind the soles for your specific swing pattern and the turf conditions you play in most, and the wedges will be spot-on in terms of specs and weighting. The Kirklands are just cast blanks with generic, wider soles and no specific grind. Fine for most casual players, but it's amazing how much difference the right sole grind can make in terms of contact, where you contact it on the face, and getting through the sand/turf.
Interesting. I bought some of the original Kirkland wedges (just for fun) and they spin like crazy. I tested them against Vokey's (and a few others) and they (Kirks) were spinning significantly more. My only real complaint(s) are the grips feel too thin, and the they are super shiny, so they can blind you on a sunny day. But performance was as good or better than the more expensive brands, and they feel fine. Also, pretty sure Vokey's are not forged 🤔 I kind think you talked yourself (likely subconsciously) into the result you found. You definitely seemed to swing the expensive clubs with more speed and confidence.
I regripped mine and I replaced the 52 with a 50 but I'm hard pressed to change the 56 or the 60 from a cost perspective
Kirkland are great. My buddy has them and I think they’ll work as well as any non fitted wedge for you. If I was new to golf or a budget I’d get the Kirkland any day!
@@TheEdiaz91 I previously played vokey SM9 52/56 and RTX zipcore's 52/56/60 prior to that. Got the gen 2 Kirkland wedges (this years model) after trying a few rounds with last years gen 1 kirklands and for the price, they are absolutely unbelievable. I think a lot of it comes down to preference, but for the price of 3 wedges and their quality - it's unbeatable.
@@ReelHookedCo yeah, they're awesome. This video is not fair because of he was more excited to play with his new custom wedges. I would be too
USDM Vokey's are NOT FORGED.
I was about to say the same thing
Mine are ordered them from Japan. Vokeys in Japan are all forged
Yeah, vokeys are definitely cast clubs
Yeah, not forged. Shame thousands of folks will now take what the video says as gospel
They both have such limited knowledge about golf and equipment.
All of a sudden Erik is a PGA player. So if we have not so good divots, we should leave. Gettin big headed ay RGC seems real inclusive 😂
We had a set of the Kirkland wedges and a putter donated to my work and the boss let me scoop them. I take them out as my pitch and putt set and they work well enough. In a blind shootout I think most people would have a difficult time distinguishing the Kirklands from Vokey, Cleveland whatever etc. It's only the horrendous Kirkland branding that tips them off as being "cheaper" clubs.
I would disagree, the Kirkland wedges are noticably lighter clubs.
You never gave the kirks a chance. You were hating on them before you ever hit them.
I use Kirkland wedges and can confirm that they work just fine. In fact, for the price, they are really good.
what choice did he have? he spent a lot of money for the artisan clubs. if they are not significantly better than the kirkland clubs, then he will appear to be as a fool!!
dude... rgc used to be my favourite yt golf channel.. until this video. I loved the artisan video. Good for you, showing off the amazing work of those guys... getting an amazing set of custom high end wedges, sweet as... but seriously, for you, and for most golfers that arn't close to the ver y top end of ball strikers, the Kirklands are extremely good value for money. At the level of you, and most golfers, strike is the most important thing as long as the club is halfway decent.
Kirkland wedges are very light, if they use s400 shafts, I bet you they will perform more like the $1000 clubs on most swings. But the custom wedges looks awesome! I am sure the bounce and grind is better for chipping around the green.
Yea I could never get used to how light they are
Man those Artisan Wedges are just incredible looking.....great video!
Feel is very important in golf clubs and confidence makes you hit a club better 🤷♂️ doesn’t have to be an expensive club it’s all about how the club feels and reacts in your hands
I am on my second set of wedges; nothing beats just texting Jamie and new wedges are made up! For me its the grind that is just perfect on each of the wedges. Disclaimer i have irons and putter that i also love.
ARTISAN TO THE MOON🔥🔥🔥
I like the way you went about yr golf games, definitely smth everyone should try to demean their golf games on. Just stress-free and fun!!
Great video , scanning qr code only takes me to your website not a link to enter any giveaway, anyone else have same problem?
16:15 amazing comparison. Can normally tell a high quality firearm just picking it up even if youre blindfolded. Same with good clubs
You need to reshaft the Kirkland clubs with stiff shafts and redo this test!
How was this ever not going to be biased lol.....
$200 for 3 wedges is enough to get quality that most of us mortals can apply to get to limits of our skill.
All this high end stuff is reaching into the pockets of those who want to feel special about the gear.
Agreed. I am a fan of this channel but suggesting that I'm not a "real player" because I have a set of Kirkland wedges is a really privileged thing for him to have said. I'm a single handicap golfer, which I consider "real" but just so happen to be a teacher so I'm not made of money. haha I'll keep buying the clubs that I can both hit AND afford...
@@ParawayGolf I'm a fan but it took a dent today ! Not the content I support TBH.
If I could buy these Kirkland Wedges here I would no probs, great to see value options IMHO. Also single handicap.
It's no different than any other tool. If you're building a deck on a single wide mobile home a Walmart hammer is fine. If you're building a custom cabinet in a nice home, you use precision tools. Put those Kirk's on the bench and I guarantee you the loft on the bottom doesn't match what they really are. I don't get the hate in this comment section.
@@thomastrain7311 There will always be the "Hooray Henrys" who buy the latest expensive kit to show off. Golf equipment is about selling hope or status.
Kirkland is just saying come and play these will do the job just fine. I hear the Kirkland balls are ok as well.
@@thomastrain7311 This analogy doesn’t make much sense. Building a deck on a mobile home likely takes more skill than building a cabinet in a nice house. 😅
Erik man I love that videos and I just gotta say I love your style dude, making the golf game ultra casual in the best way 👌🏼
I would be interested in seeing you do those Kirkland signatures vs the gen 2's.
Not drinking the coolaid.
2 mins into vid and sad
11 hcp use the Kirkland ball and wedges. 115 club head speed with driver and they work fine for me. Maybe my tempo is smoother 🤷🏽♂️
I bought those Tomo x RGC golf shoes when they first released and they are the worst shoes i’ve ever worn😂😂 i keep them only for the sick RGC logo 🔥
The toe digging on the Kirklands could be due to flatter lie angle or the softer shafts causing a bit more droop resulting in the toe digging
Interesting. Why were the first-generation Kirkland wedges used?
I took mine out of the bag after 3 years and recently replaced them with Cleveland. I like the different sole grinds of the Cleveland wedges more.
Definitely looks and sounds like you all talked yourself into the Artison wedges, definitely not worth 3 and half times the price. Nice wedges but kind of ridiculous considering all the custom shops out there.
So the concussion that I'm seeing is, expensive clubs won't make a person a better ball striker.
The Kirklands perform equal to or better than some big name clubs.
In golf, it's the driver not the car.....
Respect Kirkland!
Cut the BS man, they play very similar. You also misinform saying the vokeys are forged? LOL you don't know what you are saying and are comparing two different wedges that play very similar. One is just better looking than the other.
You obviously didnt watch the previous video detailing how much work goes into the fitting and building of an Artisan wedge.
@@jamesprestontx you obviously didn't watch the video when they were talking about Vokeys... cmon james you really need to hush
@@HL.1211 they mentioned Vokeys twice. Pipe down.
@@jamesprestontx tone down buddy. meet me at the course
Ive been waiting for this since it was teased in the claire hogel WITB video 😍
Who is that guy and why is he trying to make you spend more money? I did not see much difference…
Before we started testing I actually thought that the Kirklands would perform much better and more consistently than they actually did.
I watched that to drool over the artisan wedges, 'the oven' man, if the out the box Kirkland had been better I would have been miffed, like you said at end beginner wedge set, once you have idea of bounce that suits you the second hand option good idea, I got really good deal on vega's and itobori, they hadn't been hit
You should make a video where someone turns the Kirkland into a more artisan wedge itd be neat
This dude smokes crack with my friend in Vancouver Canada. We had a good time.
Hastings St?😁😁
@ hell yeah
that launch monitor is rad.
i'm just so jaded when it comes to these 'raffles'
GL for the winner
Ive had the kirklands for 2 years. They're much easier to hit than the vokeys. Which i had a set of 3 for almost 10 years.
Maybe a stupid question, where does one find a range like this? The only ones I can find near me are podunk knock offs of Topgolf with some bays to hit off mats and a horrible patchwork of crabgrass they call a lawn. Both of which suck to hit off of.
Why are you wanting a low ball with a lob wedge?
Random Golf Club - Golf for everyone, if you can afford it!
Coco crisp pull was smooth asf
Glad someone caught that!
First thing noticed arccos sensors in new clubs out the box. Interesting.
I like how they both perform similarly out of the bunker.
How many out there that can take FULL advantage of a Porsche GT3 vs a Mazda Miata? I am a new golfer and I am totally happy with my Kirkland wedges. Maybe someday I can both afford and use a more expensive set of wedges.
suggesting RPM differences >3000 is a result of the club and not the impact is insane
The moment he opened a custom set of personalized wedges from Artisan, I knew we would get some user-influenced flaws in the Kirkland’s.
If I can pay $900 less and still get 85% of the performance of the $1,000 wedges, I’m saving that $900 and putting it toward lessons.
It's crazy to see Francis just stair down the divots Eric was making. Didn't even need to look at the ball flight. Best coach in the game!
Dude!!! The divots always tell the story. Thanks Raul!
EAL has invoked the wrath of the $5 chicken and YT fact checkers... may he find safe haven through this turbulent time. Sick wedges dude.
Well, I'll always play Vokeys, but if I got the Kirkland wedges, I'd take them to my friendly neighborhood club maker and have them bent to my loft (depending on the bounce), lie angle, and I'd have him put some shafts in that match my current set. Easy.
Digging those golf pants, what brand are you rocking?
Definitely a biased review.
My pal tried Kirkland, and the grooves were dreadful after 2 months, started beautifully, span and played well, but didn’t stand the test of time.
Why so much hate, but the side eye on not owning a gun was great 😂😂😂 God Bless Texas
Lets see Artisan vs Takoma wedges next.
I'm sure BOB and TITLEIST are loving the perception that they are forged. LMAO
Takomo vs Artisan next
Inconsistency in the swing is crazy for how much this guy plays
I wanted som takomo wedges but if your tall like me can't play off the rack wedges . Divot is bigger because the shafts are regular flex. If I some how got a set of artisan wedges I'd never hit them lol I wouldn't want to destroy them
Mate just love all your vids. I love your vibe man! Love your work brother ✌️👊
I feel like all the "craftsman" narrative is 80% bs and 20% valid. I'd rather have 3 vokeys with the same weight and bounce due to cast, than one artisan with the videos of the guy meticulously eyeballing the grinds.....tour pros are using cast vokeys......that should tell u something...but i use scratch wedges (cast) from 13 yrs ago...so what do i know....
I wonder how well the Kirklands would perform with a better shaft. Dynamic Gold S300s or even Apollo shafts are not very expensive and reshafting might solve some of the contact issues you were having and improve the swing feel. Those stock shafts are probably meant for a slower swing speed player. I personally struggle with a lot of off the rack wedges because they are too light and whippy. As a result, the release is hard to control and contact is inconsistent. Stiffer, heavier wedges are just more consistent. A lot of tour players have heavier wedges as well. Thankfully, reshafting irons / wedges with steel shafts is relatively easy to do. Alternatively, you could partner with a local custom club maker to reshaft them, get the flex profile, total weight, length, lie, and swing weight to be similar to the more expensive wedges, then retest. I highly doubt you would end up spending $900 to refit those wedge heads. A follow-up video would be great to see and perhaps spark an interesting adventure into the world of custom clubs (Maltby, etc.).
Why is it that I knew exactly what he meant when he said "these just feel like a gun" . . .
Well right off the bat those carbon steel artisan are forged and those #Titleist Vokeys are absolutely not forged at least here in the US. Carry on.
Call this video: how to talk yourself into that you spending $1000 was worth it, when you could have spent $160.
Really wanna go to the Pittsburgh meet up scramble. 😮 Anyone going!?
Not to be that guy but to totally be that guy there's a fundamental misunderstanding in the difference between forged and cast clubs here. Same steel composition with the same heat treatment 99% of people won't notice the difference. The difference people claim there is between forged and cast in terms of feel is a fallacy of perception of price and "quality". High end forged clubs will "out perform" lower end cast because the high end starts with a very homogenous billet of good steel and will have countless hours of work put into them. Compare that to a cheaper cast club that may not have the best steel and just run through an assembly line to get as many out the door as possible. It just comes down to do you want to sell a little for a lot or sell a lot for a little.
Like people have been saying in the comments Vokeys aren't forged but people think they're forged because of the price, perception, and reputation.
Also scientifically speaking there is no measurable difference between raw face and coated face wedges.
So, you think the Kirklands are Vokey ripoffs, but not the Artisan? The Artisan look like the SM 9s and SM 10s way more than the Kirklands do.
Ball striking was different and inconsistent so results are inconclusive
I've also noticed that a BMW X7 is a little nicer than my Hyundai Palisade.
As I watch the Women’s US Open, I think the next Breaking should be where they play. As a 4 handicap I always think I could do ok, but I am delusional! I want to see how much they dominate golf vs us hacks.
Kirklands are good not great wedges. I had an instant improvement when I switched to vokeys the weighting is way superior. Pure spin I’m sure they are similar.
Vokeys are cast, not forged.
I mean, cool videos. But you wanted the Artisan to be better from the outset. Hard to see this as fair.
without watching the video, i already know what is the conclusion!!
Kirkland 56 has higher bounce and is aimed at use in bunkers, not the lob wedge. Big fail
the toe is digging because the kirklands are too flat for you.
EAL you need to work on your null hypotheses... Best, SAL
Only minutes in and I can tell this vid is CAP. of course you have a lower loft it’s gonna go further. Ofcourse if the loft is higher you’ll have a deeper divot. I don’t own Kirkland but there is NO WAY your clubs are 10X better.
It's wild. The guy he is with acts shocked that a club that's 3* stronger is launching a little lower and going farther.
Man this guy is easily my least favorite YT golf personality.
Never gave the k sigs a chance
As much as I would love to get my hands on Artisans wedges, i can't justify the cost versus the Kirkland. 1, my wife would kill me and 2 I would be wasting my money. Being a high handicapper and playing once or twice a month, the Kirkland wedges is perfect for me in terms of cost.......especially cost, playability and everything else. If I was swimming in a money everyday, then sure why not but otherwise no thanks.
What about the giveaway?
Man I love your content but trying to sell people on 1000 dollar wedges is crazy I play vokey wedges but I use the Kirkland irons I’m a 15 handicap and let me tell you they work just as good as regular “expensive” irons it’s the player not the club
I just got called not a "real player" by Random Gold Club. 😂
Literally unwatchable because of the lesson being given so loudly in the background
Not related to the video but what balls is Erik using ??
This is the weirdest episode of Welcome to Wrexham I’ve ever seen. Rob Mcelhenney looking good tho, didn’t know he was in to golf
You forgot "repeatability" lol 😂
Vokeys aren’t forged
QR Code not working? Just linking to website but no mention of a contest? Artisan wedges looks amazing, but damn, what a price. I'll prob pass :p
Vokey is not FORGED. And I remember when you started. Now it’s beneath you to play a brand like Kirkland. A have an old friend that was on Tour. Grew up poor. Very poor. He once said he would have played with anything you would have given him. No fitting available. I think if your game holds up, it holds up. Artisian will not win you majors. 😂
Vokeys aren’t forged 😂
Take the Costco, get it bent and put your shafts into it and then see the difference!!
Those cast heads will break at the hosel
@@thomastrain7311 only if you need +/- 2° of bend. Cast are still able to be bent! it's metal, not glass :)
I’ll use the kirkland wedges I think I can beat you
This is allllll for his app sponsors. Good players can play anything.
never been paid by Artisan nor are they a sponsor
@@RandomGolfClubFilms apologies. Suppose it’s only LAB, Uneekor, Caddy Talk, Ecco, Abercrombie… good on you, make that $.
95% of golfers should be using a cavity back wedge. 99% can game the Kirkland and still chunk it the same.
Oh damn, didn't realize this was going to be a hit job.... I get the support the industry take, but didn't feel objective.
Vokey wedges are cast. Most wedges are cast.
100$ Canadian is literally worth nothing
Incorrect. It's worth $100 CDN dollars.
Those Artisan clubs are sexy looking.