Hi Torvald ! Thanks for all these cool videos, you managed to get me into this Abyss content. One quick question: could you please make a short video about skills for running Gilas in the Abyss? There is lot of content regarding fits, but for new players like me, it is sometimes hard to know if we are skilled enough to fly your fits safely, which skills are mandatory at which level for which tier etc. Many thanks again !
Hey, thanks for the great video I've learned a lot from your channel! I know the video is a bit old but I have a couple of questions. Do you only loot the main cashe? And do you have maybe a suggested skill list? I'm new to the game and I need to focus my training cause it takes a lot of time.
First, welcome to Eve! :D typically I do only loot the main caches unless one of the extraction nodes are close and I can grab it real quick, but I’ll usually pass them up for piloting/time purposes. Also I don’t have a skill list yet, but CCP is bringing out the new in game skill plans that I’ll be tinkering with for each fit, and hopefully I’ll be able to post the fits with a skill plan!
@@TorvaldUruz Thanks for your reply! I have also watched your video about the support skills, I learned a lot from it. Im looking forward to your future videos they are really informative. Have a great day.
You have low-grade Omega in your workbench fit, I think that was supposed to be mid-grade. Thanks for the vid! I always stayed away from Gammas due to time management, as I like to get all caches :) EDIT: I also always burn directly at marshals, to put my missiles on them to kill them faster, works also :)
Hey Torvald, tried out your fit and flew on the Testserver with it for a couple hours (around 20 sites). My average loot per site was around 40 mil only (i could not loot all side crates). It felt really smooth but i sometimes had really close calls in terms of time (under 20 seconds). I changed out the Tech II Valks with Augmented. It helped quite a bit with clear speed. Any tips on how to get more loot/caches without running out of time?
Augmented actually aren’t better due to the mixed damage, except for on the Ephiatles cruisers that have 0 resist! As for clear time and increasing, don’t worry to much about the extra nodes. If you do want to try and snag them, you can bring an MTU and launch it at the gate while using a drone to hit the nodes.
Honestly I wasn’t too worried about it because signature radius is already pretty high, but yeah, that’d probably be a good idea to watch out for haha, good call!
hey Torvald, love the video. I was using your T5 Firestorm Gila fit for a long long time before the update with great success and 0 losses. After the update hit the server a month ago I didnt really do Abyss afterwards. Yesterday, I deceided to do a few runs and got annihilated by a 3x marshal room and and 5x target painting. It wasnt even close, I jumped into the room and 6-8 seconds later I was dead. Do you have any experience with this room and what to do. I immediatly used Blue Pill and Hardshell and overheated everything but they cut through me like a hot knife through butter. Is this a killer spawn for the T5 Gila? Seems like it is to me or did I do something wrong. I tried to burn away as you usually do it against BS but I was dead so fast, I wasn't even mad, I was amazed. P.S. I didn't even spawn in a blue cloud.
Hey! That really sucks I’m sorry to hear that... It’s shitty losing something like that in the blink of an eye. I haven’t tested that old fit out yet but yeah, overheat tank and prop mod and burn directly away from their damage.
@@TorvaldUruz its fine. I earned so much with that gila, it payed itself off multiple times :D but yeah the Marshal spawns really seem to be the toughtest ones atm.
How is your Gila so fast... mine is max speed of 688. Granted I haven't made it to T5 on Afterburners yet. But that seems a lot more than 5%. Is there hidden skills for this?
Something that helps a lot is not perma-running stuff! I learned that one the hard way. While you are cap stable, don’t use the shield booster or AB unless you need it, and keep your cap up as high as possible. For those NPCs, focus T2 missiles and T2 Valks and focus fire the NPCs.
can this T5 gila be used for lower tiers? I'm quite new to abyss and so far i only do T1s with Caracal, but i was wondering if i can use that gila to slowly grind up T2->T3->T4
Absolutely. A cruiser that can do T5 with good piloting will do T3 with mediocre piloting. Id recommend easing into abyssals and doing alot of T4s before u attempt T5s. And always remember these builds are filament specific (exotic/gamma) etc, so a t5 gamma capable ship might die on a T3 dark for example. Good luck!
It depends on the situation, Tech II are better to use on Cruiser and bigger because they do more damage, Faction are better for smaller stuff or for tanking more damage than the T2
I ran this fit on sisi and it worked somewhat fine. I think its more the lack of experience than the fit itself, but i found myself struggling to keep my shield and capacitor stable. Most of the time im either at 30-40% shield or my capacitor is nearly dry. Also the damage is quite low, which is weird, i guess im using the wrong drones on the wrong ship types. Do you happen to have a chart on damagetypes and the different shiptypes?
I know this is an old video, but I hope someone can answer this. At Gallente Cruiser V, the Gila gives a 50% Thermal and Kinetic missile damage increase. I thought the site only gave a 30% boost to explosive damage. But I see that this fit uses explosive damage missiles. Am I missing something?
I didn’t have any problems! Don’t use the AB or shield booster unless you need it to conserve cap, and focus fire drones+missiles on 1 Vedmak at a time.
This fit dies in a fire against the Dreadnought room if there are starving Leshaks in there. You can get lucky and kite them all or have the drones luck out on killing them, but, each time I have tested it, it pops. Having said that my piloting is not the best, would be great if you could make a piloting guide for the room. I get they need to be kited, but, can never keep those starving ones beyond 60km enough to live.
Hahah I actually lost this to that same room! I’m sure it can be done, but it’d be luck more than anything. I tried the kiting method and ended up getting caught and destroyed.
Honestly, this is a good fit but not as passive as it seemed, if you don't have enough drone range for the leshak room then you will die, and I would recommend for those who use this fit kill all-cap draining units as your mods are basically your life. You can get capped out and I have lost over 5bil with this fit. Again not really bashing it, there's probably more meta fits now around this price but you will need to play smart with this fit it's not invincible
Focus on Gallente/Caldari cruiser, drone skills, shield skills, and missile skills. I don’t have an actual layout, but those are the categories with all of the associated skills.
You are flying 1.6BIL ship into abyss for payout of 4mil, 17 mil and 25mil???with price of filament being over 20 mil... where is profit in abyss? And I just realized this is 3 years old video- payouts are even smaller now.
THIS!!!! finally...showing the hardest rooms only make sense if your fit is proper or not...good job Torvald...as usual...
that concord room looked real scary man, but dam this looks much easyer then expected, nice vid man, see you in the next
Really Awesome Video . That Gila tank like a beast .
Hi Torvald ! Thanks for all these cool videos, you managed to get me into this Abyss content. One quick question: could you please make a short video about skills for running Gilas in the Abyss? There is lot of content regarding fits, but for new players like me, it is sometimes hard to know if we are skilled enough to fly your fits safely, which skills are mandatory at which level for which tier etc. Many thanks again !
Hey, thanks for the great video I've learned a lot from your channel! I know the video is a bit old but I have a couple of questions. Do you only loot the main cashe? And do you have maybe a suggested skill list? I'm new to the game and I need to focus my training cause it takes a lot of time.
First, welcome to Eve! :D typically I do only loot the main caches unless one of the extraction nodes are close and I can grab it real quick, but I’ll usually pass them up for piloting/time purposes. Also I don’t have a skill list yet, but CCP is bringing out the new in game skill plans that I’ll be tinkering with for each fit, and hopefully I’ll be able to post the fits with a skill plan!
@@TorvaldUruz Thanks for your reply! I have also watched your video about the support skills, I learned a lot from it. Im looking forward to your future videos they are really informative. Have a great day.
You have low-grade Omega in your workbench fit, I think that was supposed to be mid-grade. Thanks for the vid! I always stayed away from Gammas due to time management, as I like to get all caches :)
EDIT: I also always burn directly at marshals, to put my missiles on them to kill them faster, works also :)
Good call thanks :D I’ve had a bad experience burning straight into them! Maybe I’ll give it another go hahah
Hey Torvald,
tried out your fit and flew on the Testserver with it for a couple hours (around 20 sites). My average loot per site was around 40 mil only (i could not loot all side crates).
It felt really smooth but i sometimes had really close calls in terms of time (under 20 seconds). I changed out the Tech II Valks with Augmented. It helped quite a bit with clear speed.
Any tips on how to get more loot/caches without running out of time?
Augmented actually aren’t better due to the mixed damage, except for on the Ephiatles cruisers that have 0 resist! As for clear time and increasing, don’t worry to much about the extra nodes. If you do want to try and snag them, you can bring an MTU and launch it at the gate while using a drone to hit the nodes.
Thx man, nice fit!
Looks like you were in the blue sig-radius cloud for most of the concord room. Maybe heating AB to get out ASAP would help in that situation?
Honestly I wasn’t too worried about it because signature radius is already pretty high, but yeah, that’d probably be a good idea to watch out for haha, good call!
hey Torvald, love the video. I was using your T5 Firestorm Gila fit for a long long time before the update with great success and 0 losses. After the update hit the server a month ago I didnt really do Abyss afterwards.
Yesterday, I deceided to do a few runs and got annihilated by a 3x marshal room and and 5x target painting. It wasnt even close, I jumped into the room and 6-8 seconds later I was dead.
Do you have any experience with this room and what to do. I immediatly used Blue Pill and Hardshell and overheated everything but they cut through me like a hot knife through butter.
Is this a killer spawn for the T5 Gila? Seems like it is to me or did I do something wrong. I tried to burn away as you usually do it against BS but I was dead so fast, I wasn't even mad, I was amazed.
P.S. I didn't even spawn in a blue cloud.
Hey! That really sucks I’m sorry to hear that... It’s shitty losing something like that in the blink of an eye. I haven’t tested that old fit out yet but yeah, overheat tank and prop mod and burn directly away from their damage.
@@TorvaldUruz its fine. I earned so much with that gila, it payed itself off multiple times :D but yeah the Marshal spawns really seem to be the toughtest ones atm.
Hey, do you have a cheapish or safe T4 fit? Died yesterday in a 1.2b fit because I got neuted out so I’m looking for fits that may be better
Nice video!
How is your Gila so fast... mine is max speed of 688. Granted I haven't made it to T5 on Afterburners yet. But that seems a lot more than 5%. Is there hidden skills for this?
I am getting wrecked everytime by room with dissipator *10 or starving damavik / vedmak *6. I must do something wrong, how do you handle those rooms ?
Something that helps a lot is not perma-running stuff! I learned that one the hard way. While you are cap stable, don’t use the shield booster or AB unless you need it, and keep your cap up as high as possible. For those NPCs, focus T2 missiles and T2 Valks and focus fire the NPCs.
@@TorvaldUruz Thanks for the reply. I should have refilled my cap before switching room. And also thanks for all your vidz always a pleasure :)
can this T5 gila be used for lower tiers? I'm quite new to abyss and so far i only do T1s with Caracal, but i was wondering if i can use that gila to slowly grind up T2->T3->T4
Absolutely. A cruiser that can do T5 with good piloting will do T3 with mediocre piloting. Id recommend easing into abyssals and doing alot of T4s before u attempt T5s.
And always remember these builds are filament specific (exotic/gamma) etc, so a t5 gamma capable ship might die on a T3 dark for example.
Good luck!
Has anyone tested that this fit is still up to date and works in december 2021?
Yep this one still works! I use this, the exotic Gila, and electrical Stormbringer pretty regularly and they’re still good!
I can't survive the room with the starving damaviks and vedmaks even if i focus them immediately. How do you survive them with this fit?
Why do you use Valkyrie II instead of Republic Fleet Valkyries?
It depends on the situation, Tech II are better to use on Cruiser and bigger because they do more damage, Faction are better for smaller stuff or for tanking more damage than the T2
I ran this fit on sisi and it worked somewhat fine. I think its more the lack of experience than the fit itself, but i found myself struggling to keep my shield and capacitor stable. Most of the time im either at 30-40% shield or my capacitor is nearly dry. Also the damage is quite low, which is weird, i guess im using the wrong drones on the wrong ship types. Do you happen to have a chart on damagetypes and the different shiptypes?
How do you test on Sisi? I couldn't buy the items to test...what am I missing?
I know this is an old video, but I hope someone can answer this. At Gallente Cruiser V, the Gila gives a 50% Thermal and Kinetic missile damage increase. I thought the site only gave a 30% boost to explosive damage. But I see that this fit uses explosive damage missiles. Am I missing something?
Just read that in Tier 4 and 5 sites that can contain pockets with -70% resistance! =O
How does this fit fair in the Starving Vedmak room?
I didn’t have any problems! Don’t use the AB or shield booster unless you need it to conserve cap, and focus fire drones+missiles on 1 Vedmak at a time.
This fit dies in a fire against the Dreadnought room if there are starving Leshaks in there. You can get lucky and kite them all or have the drones luck out on killing them, but, each time I have tested it, it pops. Having said that my piloting is not the best, would be great if you could make a piloting guide for the room. I get they need to be kited, but, can never keep those starving ones beyond 60km enough to live.
Hahah I actually lost this to that same room! I’m sure it can be done, but it’d be luck more than anything. I tried the kiting method and ended up getting caught and destroyed.
@@TorvaldUruz I have been testing it and have died five times now on SiSi. I think it's just not cap capable
Please consider increasing your voiceover volume and decreasing the music level.
Good call - I should have double checked that, I’ll fix it for next time thank you! :)
Why do u mix passive and active tank??
What about Vagabond in Firestorm ? do it need an update ?
I haven’t tested it yet so not sure, but I plan on doing it sometime!
Hey thanx for video! name of last song please?
Steppe by Myrne :)
Honestly, this is a good fit but not as passive as it seemed, if you don't have enough drone range for the leshak room then you will die, and I would recommend for those who use this fit kill all-cap draining units as your mods are basically your life. You can get capped out and I have lost over 5bil with this fit. Again not really bashing it, there's probably more meta fits now around this price but you will need to play smart with this fit it's not invincible
nice one :_D Works fine
T6? ive been away tooooo long , i need a reason to come back..... I miss abyssal pvp. (malango)
Hey Mango! :D man new abyssal content is hard hahah, definitely more challenging now! How ya been?
*question* with this build t3 easy ??
Can I get a skill planner for this? Or all skill I need
Focus on Gallente/Caldari cruiser, drone skills, shield skills, and missile skills. I don’t have an actual layout, but those are the categories with all of the associated skills.
@@TorvaldUruz okay I will work something out
T2 Valk or Aug Valk?
Ty for this. Marshalls is ***** resp(
You are flying 1.6BIL ship into abyss for payout of 4mil, 17 mil and 25mil???with price of filament being over 20 mil...
where is profit in abyss?
And I just realized this is 3 years old video- payouts are even smaller now.
6:40 - You say: "loot can be anywhere from 20 to 200 isk".
Your loot- 12mil isk.
why lying?