How to turn any pool to endless swimming. If you are planning to build this type of device ,electrical connection must be done by licensed professional.
Hello, this is a great video. I absolutely love it. Can you please provide list of products used. I think it will be helpful for all the viewers of this video. Would really appreciate it. Thank you. Cheers.
1st- Jacek great job man. People are so sensitive to everything nowadays. The guy is happy with it, he already said that he is old and that he feels it is good enough for him. Everybody else that wants one put $5k - $15k of their pocket and go to scream somewhere. All risk aside I was thinking of doing something like it and went to look for some info and what I got was a very expensive well designed machines (Slipstream, etc.), but for a regular guy and his wife to do some hydro exercises with some medium current for $500 bucks is pretty awesome and I was not even was considering a box. I was setting a simpler idea on a strong board with no box, and simple on/off switch to start secure of course but when I put it together still works and it is safe. Makes me want to improve mine, but without his video my idea will remain raw. Now this guy's idea is a beautiful improvement and a solution for whom wants it, and the closest to the real super expensive thing. Thanks Jacek Suchon, great idea to develop. For the crying babies, there is no string attached snowflakes, go back to the umbilical cord.
This is a great project but I knew as soon as I saw size of the pump it's not big enough. I installed a huge pump with only 1 turn between it and the pool and even that you would struggle to swim at a decent speed. My advice for anyone reading this is get a bigger pump, have few to no corners in the pipe as it reduces flow and use 40mm pipe. If you do need to have turns then use 2 45 degrees instead of one 90, it reduces the pressure. Happy building
@@MrLtj664 Hopefully theres always that guy. Because to be honest the design in this video left a lot of performance on the table, due to all the 90degree bends.
I thought the same. Our pool return pipe is much larger also the pump it can push you away but it's not strong enough to swim against continuously. I suppose that is why the man at the end of the video was only wading and not swimming. If I had a pool like his I would do laps which are more beneficial. Unfortunately I don't have my pool anymore (I miss it everyday). Anyway your advice is helpful and important. Hopefully anyone who is seriously considering making this as a DIY will read your comment and heed your advice. 😊
When our pool was installed, i asked for a second discharge pipe with valve and up sized the pump from 1 hp to 3hp variable speed. I built a 4 head manifold with eductors that give an increase flow 4-5 times as much. Works great. This guys idea is a good solution for the after the fact installs.
Great concept idea!! 💯 for execution and neatness build...however as an FTI for Endless Pools I have seen that that the best propulsion is execute by means of propeller or turbine. Kinda like the propulsion of a jetski. Endless pools products use an underwarer hydraulic motor powered by an outside hydraulic pump motor and the water propulsion is created by means of a spining propeller inside the Fastlane housing underwarer. They have a great product and it works evenly on water surface area. These equipments cost from $7000 to $10,000 depending on installation setup. It would be great to used your concept here and use a small turbine or two with adjustable speed controls. The Fastlane is equipped with a programmed board that controls speed by remote. Its possible like I said to build a smaller version with all the new small turbine motors used today on the market for underwater aquatics. China makes ton of them😊👍
This is amazing! Can you post the list of parts you used? Do you know what the top speed is or 100 time? Any issues? Do you plug into a normal power socket? What is the liquid you poured in? Thanks!
He poured in water to prime it. I find it hard to believe that a small 120v motor produces enough force to swim against. My pool pump is considerable larger and wouldn’t produce enough flow. He is basically treading water, I don’t believe he could actually swim against it, his pump isn’t big enough. The concept is sound. They already make swim pools,look at the size of motor they use. It makes this pump look like a toy and they are all 240v. A simple teather would be super cheap and do the same thing except actually work.
Thank you Jacek for sharing! So glad I found this video. My husband made me a 7x12’ diy endless pool in our covered patio using a tether. Works great so far but I hope to consider having the option of swimming against a current using something like the one you built. I like glide swimming freestyle. Does your machine accommodates freestyle swimming stroke? My husband says that he can try to make one for me like the one on your video. Thanks again! -Naomi
Thanks again Jacek! If i can glide swim freestyle using your machine, this can be a game changer for me. We are in a very early stage of building a 45’ indoor lap pool. Huge expense and effort will be involved of course. Maintenance and heating bill the rest of the time is another big factor. If your machine would allow me to glide swim, I’ll definitely build a shorter indoor pool instead. I hope to find out if swimming against a current in a smaller pool can work for me before committing to a regular lap pool.
Purpose being? Useless without inline filter, heater, chlorinator or salt generator... Cool build but to what end? And for the love of Pete can someone plz explain what "pool is too short" means?
I tried that in an aquarium and the flow just kind of goes everywhere and still has some current circulating the opposite direction. So I think just having a shorter intake near the pump might be better than sucking the water through a longer pipe.
It won't fit in a poly rolling case but the T's and L bows kill lower water pressure like your showing. The math can fill a page on how much you lose. but basically, you lose half volume of flow on every L-bow. You would have to heat the PVC fill with hot sand and slowly bend. as wide as you can afford. You will still lose some on the bends but nothing like half on each. You add all the L's and T's and its a lot. If you look at home jacuzzi tubs you will see the same thing to minimize loss of flow.
This is awesome but I know I am not handy enough to make that… business opportunity if u built those pre assembled and shipped them out for us that can barely use a hammer/screw driver 😀
When these are installed in real pools having watched it installed personally it had like two 4” Id returns pipes and the supply I think was 6”… the pump is huge also the volume of flow is a what your going for…
You did a very good job…… i use for me a 5$ solution 🤔… I use a 5mm textile/rubber band and a light belt around my belly This way i can even turn to swimm on my back what is close impossible with your technically perfect made solution.
@jaceksuchon4717 I cringed looking at this. It reminded me of a plugged in hair dryer sitting on an unstable shelf above a bathroom shower. The device should not be so close to the pool. If it tips and goes in the water while you are in, then expect something shocking to happen to you. Longer pipes for safety. Keep it 20-30 feet away and use some GFCI and Arc Fault interruption in your circuits at the source of the power and not inside your pump box.
You are absolutely right the circuit must be GFI protected with lnterrupter at the panel. Length of the cord supplying electricity to the box won't allowed energized box to fall in in the water. If the box moves more then 5 inches towards the pool it will unplug it self from wall receptacle, by the time the box will hit the water it won't be connected to anything You are saying my device is too close to the water. Do you enjoy hot tubes? Every time you enter one you will be only inches from 240V pumps ,heaters chlorinators ect. Great comment Thank you for watching and paying attention
@@jaceksuchon4717 I am more concerned with people copying this idea. I didn't see electrical safety mentioned in your video. Anyone wanting to copy your idea should take note and not everyone will use a short extension cord.. Longer pipes would go a long way to keep the pump from going in the water.
One other safety precaution, you need two suction pipes. Just in case you get too close to one pipe ir could create enough suction to do great body damage. Two pipes prevent this. This is why most all pools built since 1980s have two drains. Just as dangerous as not plugging into a ground fault plug.
@@jaceksuchon4717 Well, now you made me feel bad. But I really did look at the endless pool stuff years ago and came up with the simple alternative. Neighbour had an elastic lead for the dog tied off by the pool so I even did proof of concept with it. At least you don't have a live propeller in the water like the first ones had!
"Pool is just too short" is about as accurate as saying what you are doing at the end is swimming. Does everyone with an idea just have to make a video just to watch all the lemmings come and say "wow"?
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Hello, this is a great video. I absolutely love it. Can you please provide list of products used. I think it will be helpful for all the viewers of this video. Would really appreciate it. Thank you. Cheers.
Sorry but I don't have list of parts.
I build my projects as I go
Thanks for the comment
Thank you, this is doable. I built a similar setup for a small hydroponics project. This is just supersized. Great idea.
Thank you
1st- Jacek great job man. People are so sensitive to everything nowadays. The guy is happy with it, he already said that he is old and that he feels it is good enough for him.
Everybody else that wants one put $5k - $15k of their pocket and go to scream somewhere. All risk aside I was thinking of doing something like it and went to look for some info and what I got was a very expensive well designed machines (Slipstream, etc.), but for a regular guy and his wife to do some hydro exercises with some medium current for $500 bucks is pretty awesome and I was not even was considering a box. I was setting a simpler idea on a strong board with no box, and simple on/off switch to start secure of course but when I put it together still works and it is safe. Makes me want to improve mine, but without his video my idea will remain raw. Now this guy's idea is a beautiful improvement and a solution for whom wants it, and the closest to the real super expensive thing. Thanks Jacek Suchon, great idea to develop. For the crying babies, there is no string attached snowflakes, go back to the umbilical cord.
Thanks
This is a great project but I knew as soon as I saw size of the pump it's not big enough. I installed a huge pump with only 1 turn between it and the pool and even that you would struggle to swim at a decent speed. My advice for anyone reading this is get a bigger pump, have few to no corners in the pipe as it reduces flow and use 40mm pipe. If you do need to have turns then use 2 45 degrees instead of one 90, it reduces the pressure. Happy building
Thanks
There's always 'that guy'. Make your own and post it.
@@MrLtj664nothing wrong with getting additional advice on building something similar. Who wouldn’t want to have a more efficient swimming setup?
@@MrLtj664 Hopefully theres always that guy.
Because to be honest the design in this video left a lot of performance on the table, due to all the 90degree bends.
I thought the same. Our pool return pipe is much larger also the pump it can push you away but it's not strong enough to swim against continuously. I suppose that is why the man at the end of the video was only wading and not swimming. If I had a pool like his I would do laps which are more beneficial. Unfortunately I don't have my pool anymore (I miss it everyday). Anyway your advice is helpful and important. Hopefully anyone who is seriously considering making this as a DIY will read your comment and heed your advice. 😊
When our pool was installed, i asked for a second discharge pipe with valve and up sized the pump from 1 hp to 3hp variable speed. I built a 4 head manifold with eductors that give an increase flow 4-5 times as much. Works great. This guys idea is a good solution for the after the fact installs.
Thanks
Did this work well for swimming, I am in the planning stage for a pool and havent found any good info on a pump style endless pool?
Great concept idea!! 💯 for execution and neatness build...however as an FTI for Endless Pools I have seen that that the best propulsion is execute by means of propeller or turbine. Kinda like the propulsion of a jetski. Endless pools products use an underwarer hydraulic motor powered by an outside hydraulic pump motor and the water propulsion is created by means of a spining propeller inside the Fastlane housing underwarer. They have a great product and it works evenly on water surface area. These equipments cost from $7000 to $10,000 depending on installation setup. It would be great to used your concept here and use a small turbine or two with adjustable speed controls. The Fastlane is equipped with a programmed board that controls speed by remote. Its possible like I said to build a smaller version with all the new small turbine motors used today on the market for underwater aquatics. China makes ton of them😊👍
Thanks
This is amazing! Can you post the list of parts you used? Do you know what the top speed is or 100 time? Any issues? Do you plug into a normal power socket? What is the liquid you poured in? Thanks!
Sorry I don't have list of parts
You can get all of them in any pool store
So far no issues
I use dedicated circuit GFI protected
He poured in water to prime it. I find it hard to believe that a small 120v motor produces enough force to swim against. My pool pump is considerable larger and wouldn’t produce enough flow. He is basically treading water, I don’t believe he could actually swim against it, his pump isn’t big enough. The concept is sound. They already make swim pools,look at the size of motor they use. It makes this pump look like a toy and they are all 240v. A simple teather would be super cheap and do the same thing except actually work.
I freaking Love it!! Great job seriously!
Glad you like it!
Quite impressive❤
Can you also do water feature?
I will be very interested
Thank you
Sorry no water feature
Thank you Jacek for sharing! So glad I found this video. My husband made me a 7x12’ diy endless pool in our covered patio using a tether. Works great so far but I hope to consider having the option of swimming against a current using something like the one you built. I like glide swimming freestyle. Does your machine accommodates freestyle swimming stroke? My husband says that he can try to make one for me like the one on your video. Thanks again! -Naomi
Hi
Not sure about swimming stroke but I am glad you like it
Thanks again Jacek! If i can glide swim freestyle using your machine, this can be a game changer for me. We are in a very early stage of building a 45’ indoor lap pool. Huge expense and effort will be involved of course. Maintenance and heating bill the rest of the time is another big factor. If your machine would allow me to glide swim, I’ll definitely build a shorter indoor pool instead. I hope to find out if swimming against a current in a smaller pool can work for me before committing to a regular lap pool.
This great solution. Do you have the specs for this project?
Thanks
Sorry no specs
THAT'S DEDICATION! THUMBS UP
Thanks
Brilliant Jacek! Well done!!! Can you please tell us the pump brand and model? and how many m3/h or gallon per hour it outputs?
Any 6.5 HP Hot Tub pump
this is awesome gave me a great idea on making mine thank you!!
Thank you
Purpose being? Useless without inline filter, heater, chlorinator or salt generator... Cool build but to what end? And for the love of Pete can someone plz explain what "pool is too short" means?
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Knob controls the force/current that provides resistance while the user swims towards it. Resistance swimming pool is another term.
I just stubbled across this. Brilliant! and I'm not a swimmer! ;-)
Thanks
What are the specs for the pump and list of equipment used
My pump is only 2 KW but I recommend using most powerful pump you can find .
Sorry I didn't have list of equipment
What i s the rating of the pump? 2hp?...
Is 2 KW pump
For better results use biggest pump you can find
Would it make it better if the return plumbing was at the back so as to keep the water stream in line?
There is only one way to find out
I tried that in an aquarium and the flow just kind of goes everywhere and still has some current circulating the opposite direction. So I think just having a shorter intake near the pump might be better than sucking the water through a longer pipe.
This is a great project you did there.
It would be great if you documented it somewhere.
Thanks
Axial flow pump would be the way to go. More flow, less head. And there is little to no head needed for this.
You are absolutely right
Great effort
Thanks
How about using a ski pump system?
Good idea
Hello
Could u plz share details about the pump that was used.
Most powerful hot tub pump You can find
6.5 HP is the best
What is the spec of your pump
2 KW hot tub pump, good enough for me
For serious swimming way bigger pump is needed
How much did everything cost to build?
$ 450 more or less
6:39 I thought he was gonna throw some raw chicken on that cutting board and start making some lunch!
Ha haha 😄
So a black tool box with a pump in it that churns the water. Oh ya, it also has a lever that can go left & right & left & back to the right. Yeah!!!
Yeah!!!
I believe you will need to leave the lid open when operating so electric motor has adequate air for cooling.
No problem with overheating
It won't fit in a poly rolling case but the T's and L bows kill lower water pressure like your showing. The math can fill a page on how much you lose. but basically, you lose half volume of flow on every L-bow. You would have to heat the PVC fill with hot sand and slowly bend. as wide as you can afford. You will still lose some on the bends but nothing like half on each. You add all the L's and T's and its a lot. If you look at home jacuzzi tubs you will see the same thing to minimize loss of flow.
Good point
This is awesome but I know I am not handy enough to make that… business opportunity if u built those pre assembled and shipped them out for us that can barely use a hammer/screw driver 😀
Thanks
I think it is more of a huge lawsuit opportunity. People who have no common sense would be getting electrocuted.
Clever guy!!! 😮
Thanks
When these are installed in real pools having watched it installed personally it had like two 4” Id returns pipes and the supply I think was 6”… the pump is huge also the volume of flow is a what your going for…
I am an old dude
Is powerful enough for me
This is super cool
Glad you like it
Why are you wearing gloves? Maybe safety glasses and a hardhat?
Good idea 💡
Safety first!!!
Thank you for your sharing.
My pleasure!
You did a very good job…… i use for me a 5$ solution 🤔…
I use a 5mm textile/rubber band and a light belt around my belly
This way i can even turn to swimm on my back what is close impossible with your technically perfect made solution.
Thanks
If you can see it, you can build it. I have the problem of seeing. Although having a problem that bugs you can open your eyes sometimes.
True
Man this gives me the info i was looking for thanks i hope i can remember it all
Glad I could help
More than you even know
@jaceksuchon4717
I cringed looking at this. It reminded me of a plugged in hair dryer sitting on an unstable shelf above a bathroom shower.
The device should not be so close to the pool. If it tips and goes in the water while you are in, then expect something shocking to happen to you. Longer pipes for safety. Keep it 20-30 feet away and use some GFCI and Arc Fault interruption in your circuits at the source of the power and not inside your pump box.
You are absolutely right the circuit must be GFI protected with lnterrupter at the panel.
Length of the cord supplying electricity to the box won't allowed energized box to fall in in the water. If the box moves more then 5 inches towards the pool it will unplug it self from wall receptacle, by the time the box will hit the water it won't be connected to anything
You are saying my device is too close to the water.
Do you enjoy hot tubes?
Every time you enter one you will be only inches from 240V pumps ,heaters chlorinators ect.
Great comment
Thank you for watching and paying attention
@@jaceksuchon4717
I am more concerned with people copying this idea. I didn't see electrical safety mentioned in your video. Anyone wanting to copy your idea should take note and not everyone will use a short extension cord..
Longer pipes would go a long way to keep the pump from going in the water.
One other safety precaution, you need two suction pipes. Just in case you get too close to one pipe ir could create enough suction to do great body damage. Two pipes prevent this. This is why most all pools built since 1980s have two drains. Just as dangerous as not plugging into a ground fault plug.
@@robertt8273 Good point
Polak potrafi!
Się wie!
Cool, but I would never make anything like that. Don’t know how to ,dose anybody that knows how to do it and just make one and sell it to me?
Sorry can't help you but thanks for the comment
He's gonna be pissed when I tell him that a bungee cord to back belt loop is so much cheaper and easier.
Who will be pissed?
Pool pumps are supposed to be bonded to the pool structure with a 8 gauge solid wire
Check your local code
Calm down.
PVC connections will last much longer if you use primer
You are absolutely right
👍
Thanks
I wear cargo shorts and put a bungee cord from my back belt loop to the ladder or any hook. Joe Dirt? Maybe, but easier than all this nonsense.
Thank you
@@jaceksuchon4717 Well, now you made me feel bad. But I really did look at the endless pool stuff years ago and came up with the simple alternative. Neighbour had an elastic lead for the dog tied off by the pool so I even did proof of concept with it. At least you don't have a live propeller in the water like the first ones had!
:)
👍
When you're too lazy to turn in your pool this is probably not going to help you either.....
Yeah!!!
"Pool is just too short" is about as accurate as saying what you are doing at the end is swimming. Does everyone with an idea just have to make a video just to watch all the lemmings come and say "wow"?
Maybe?
Exactly my thoughts. His pump was to small to actually swim agains hence the treading.