I’m in LV but used to live in phx - I’ve been following this story since day 1. I’m on the edge of my seat to know the details of the cel phone records.
As an armchair detective, my guess is he met someone online after getting home from Las Vegas that person stayed at his house as a hookup / they played dress up and then things got ugly that person panicked hence the phone in the canal and the car being torched whoever did this was looking to erase any connection they had with him so likely it was someone who was closeted, and any real information is going to come from the phone, the data with/from apps like facebook, tinder and grinder.
So truly touching that there are still folks that care about each other in this way. Never stop loving the people in your life. And always stand up for them when here and gone. He deserves the answers. Thanks for the report and thanks for showing folks what friends are. Make your day amazing!
I’m pretty sure he got lured from a dating app. Vegas is poor and dangerous, lots of ghetto and thousands of miles of just desert. The friends are awesome but I would have never stopped following the car they saw, at least not until I get a picture, follow them until cops arrive, etc. It also seems a case fully with a digital footprint but since he was gay, cops don’t care, imo.
already impatient after only 2 years? in 1988 my mother died after a brief battle with a murderer for whom, to date, has yet to be identified, so i get it, but also give it time; it gets worse good luck ❤️
Seems like he was participating in something secretly and things went wrong. Whatever it was he was hiding but ironically they dumped him with fish nets on, revealing the hidden😔
Talk about scene preservation, the area where the dude was found has people walking around the area. Bystanders just gallivanting through the sand destroying evidence. Did that first cop on scene even go to the police academy?? He didn’t have a clue.🤦♂️
The Insanity behind this is heartbreaking it reminds me of Daniel Robinson the missing Geologist. I spent almost a week out there looking for Daniel with his father, as Military we take care of our own. Yet we found nothing and are still left in a quandary trying to understand how people can simply vanish or end up like this poor guy. These cases their victims and their families deserve answers and justice. My heart goes out to the victims and their families, someone out there knows something and someone will talk they always do. Just heartbreaking!!
What amazing friends! Ben was lucky to have people who loved him so much, but I’m sure they would tell you that they were the lucky ones. Rest in peace, Ben. I hope this all comes to light and that charges are filed. ❤🕊️
It’s not like they’re criminal masterminds… you’d think they would’ve been caught rather quickly so they wouldn’t have the opportunity to hurt,maim, & kill anyone else who happened to cross their path as well as serve justice for this man who already had to endure such an awful fate!
2 attempts?! By the same person? Who did you make angry? That’s not a normal reason people use to move away from some place. That doesn’t sound like an Arizona problem, and it doesn’t sound like a political problem. Collectively it sounds like a “you” problem.
Arizona has become a full democrat state today. I grew up there for 13 years. I left at age 23. Because of 2 attempts against my life had drove me to move away to save my life. I’m so glad I did. Police were also a danger.
Everybody needs best friends like these 2.
I’m in LV but used to live in phx - I’ve been following this story since day 1. I’m on the edge of my seat to know the details of the cel phone records.
I hope that his friends and loved ones get answers and justice soon.
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As an armchair detective, my guess is he met someone online after getting home from Las Vegas that person stayed at his house as a hookup / they played dress up and then things got ugly that person panicked hence the phone in the canal and the car being torched whoever did this was looking to erase any connection they had with him so likely it was someone who was closeted, and any real information is going to come from the phone, the data with/from apps like facebook, tinder and grinder.
@@8309barbie definitely sounds like another Grindr gone bad burglary story.
So truly touching that there are still folks that care about each other in this way. Never stop loving the people in your life. And always stand up for them when here and gone. He deserves the answers. Thanks for the report and thanks for showing folks what friends are. Make your day amazing!
Thanks for sharing his story. Very tragic.😢😮
No security cameras in all these places. His neighbors, the parking lot, the hotel, no one has a camera seriously?
Old dude told me, "The people you think you know" Some are very evil. Sorry for the friends and family.
I’m pretty sure he got lured from a dating app. Vegas is poor and dangerous, lots of ghetto and thousands of miles of just desert. The friends are awesome but I would have never stopped following the car they saw, at least not until I get a picture, follow them until cops arrive, etc.
It also seems a case fully with a digital footprint but since he was gay, cops don’t care, imo.
already impatient after only 2 years? in 1988 my mother died after a brief battle with a murderer for whom, to date, has yet to be identified, so i get it, but also give it time; it gets worse
good luck ❤️
I'm sorry - that's rough to go decades without knowing who is responsible. Any chance DNA can be traced by these new labs?
Seems like he was participating in something secretly and things went wrong. Whatever it was he was hiding but ironically they dumped him with fish nets on, revealing the hidden😔
Wait a minute....how are the tires not melted on that car?? What are they made out of? C'mon now.
And what happened to the doors?
Hookup culture is dangerous. Random strangers in the middle of the night . His phone has all the answers .
Lazy cops. Imagine that!
All the way to Mesa?
From where?
Awesome friends…my heart goes out
Talk about scene preservation, the area where the dude was found has people walking around the area.
Bystanders just gallivanting through the sand destroying evidence. Did that first cop on scene even go to the police academy??
He didn’t have a clue.🤦♂️
The Insanity behind this is heartbreaking it reminds me of Daniel Robinson the missing Geologist. I spent almost a week out there looking for Daniel with his father, as Military we take care of our own. Yet we found nothing and are still left in a quandary trying to understand how people can simply vanish or end up like this poor guy.
These cases their victims and their families deserve answers and justice.
My heart goes out to the victims and their families, someone out there knows something and someone will talk they always do. Just heartbreaking!!
What amazing friends! Ben was lucky to have people who loved him so much, but I’m sure they would tell you that they were the lucky ones. Rest in peace, Ben. I hope this all comes to light and that charges are filed. ❤🕊️
It’s not like they’re criminal masterminds… you’d think they would’ve been caught rather quickly so they wouldn’t have the opportunity to hurt,maim, & kill anyone else who happened to cross their path as well as serve justice for this man who already had to endure such an awful fate!
2 attempts?! By the same person? Who did you make angry? That’s not a normal reason people use to move away from some place. That doesn’t sound like an Arizona problem, and it doesn’t sound like a political problem. Collectively it sounds like a “you” problem.
Arizona has become a full democrat state today. I grew up there for 13 years. I left at age 23. Because of 2 attempts against my life had drove me to move away to save my life. I’m so glad I did. Police were also a danger.
Dude was wearing fishnet stockings. 😮 👀
I’m sure there were a lot of things these two “friends” didn’t know about Big Ben 🤷♂️
bit the wrong pillow