I just bought one of those magnet nobs.just gotta worry about losing them.the small turbo torch is my favorite one I got too.easy to carry on job.thank Steve for all the great videos and sharing your tricks of the trade.
For the 1st 3 years of being in hvac I used the oxy-ace setup... new job guy I work with uses b-tank. .. whole differnt breed.. takes some getting used to! Thanx for the video brother
Excellent video Steve. If I was in the trade I think I would use Staybrite 8 or something similar for refrigerant lines. I just don't like everything getting so hot. I believe the trade went with brazing as overkill to cover the many techs who are not good at soldering or don't want to take the time to clean the joints well.
Great video, that old Presto-lite torch brings back memories that's what I learned on , its great for lead work , Which is not used as much today. Like roof flashings, shower pans, wiped lead joints. Keep up the nice work, I really enjoy your videos.
I think I'm going to try the MC tank turbo torch with the A8 tip and I'll use my other set up for bigger stuff. I've been looking at this for awhile I hate lugging my heavy torches around on rooftops and in attics
There is an A-3 acetylene tip which is the smallest and it rated for 1/2" & 3/4" copper. The LP & map gas tips are bigger in general and have a bigger flame than acetylene. Yes the LP tips can be used with map gas. There is also an adapter so you can use the same turbo torch on both the B tank and MC tank.
B tank with a turbo torch is my choose up 1 inch brazing. Anything bigger I’ll go to the twin tank. I’ve tinned and soldiered a 6 inch brass flange with a B tank turbo but was a challenge. No leaks.
Thanks very much , you have explained all my questions about Turbo Torches , I think nobody have made such a detailed video . Hope to see more of your beautiful detailed videos soon .
Good informative idea. Wish I had seen it before I bought my setup. I bought a kit at the supply house. It was a Prestolite. It sucks compared to the Turbo Torch. Had to buy the Turbo Torch afterwards. Prestolites tips were very expensive and the heat output was mild in comparison to Turbo Torch. Prestolite called their tips " Swirljet Tips". They were physically larger but less hot. The only drawback from the TurboTorch is how loud they are. I find my head phones actually have a calming effect when I braze and I'll tend to slow things down and do a better job. Rarely do I use a B tank, I use the MC exclusively unless I'm doing a lot of brazing and large fittings. I just read the other day somewhere that the O rings on the Torch were red and black to separate them from getting mixed up one with the other. Acetylene and propane... one note on the designations of acetylene tanks is that many years ago, cars used acetelene for the head lamps/ lights, like the old Stanley Steamer cars, The designation B was for Buick, and MC stood for motorcycle... just a bit of history. The Nitrogen is sold in Cubic feet (CF) usually 15 or 40s. Co2 is usually a 60. Pressure in the Nitro should be checked when you pick it up. Full is 2000-2200psig. Some places short the tanks and you'll only get 1800. Then you'll be back sooner.
Hey Steve check out the Goss brand for the turbo air/acetylene tips. They are way quieter and have a much nicer flame, they will fit the turbo torch handle. Thanks for posting I always enjoy your videos.
For what it's worth, the numbers on the acetylene tips are the amount of gas they burn in cubic feet per hour. so an A-5 tip burns about 5 cubic feet of gas an hour.
TurboTorch Acetylene Tip are A-2 A-3 A-5 A-8 A-11 A-14 A-32 Air Acetylene Setup the strips as you call them are not for identification but are a crimp to hold the helical in place. ..
Great Video, Steve! Thanks for the detailed explanation of the various types of tips and gasses used in the trade. I'm not a plumber, and I didn't know about the B tank rig. In HVAC, acetylene is a great way to find leaks in HCFC and CFC systems. One of my friends uses an acetylene torch to locate even small leaks; as soon as the leaking refrigerant passes through the acetylene flame, it turns a bright green (phosgene gas). I know, I know, it's highly toxic! But what do you do outside in windy conditions when your H-10 ain't worth a $hit !!! Thanks for sharing. You need to train an apprentice, Steve! If and when you retire, you're going to leave the trade with a lot of valuable experience and knowledge, and these United States are hurting for technical students to replace us older guys. What better way become an exceptional technician than to train under someone like you?
Thanks for this informative video!!! Is "MAPP" gas the same thing as "Propylene" gas?!.... What would you prefer to use it on, and what would be the best torch?!.... Can any or all of these torches be used to do actual "welding", or, are they only good for soldering?!....
Ah ok i just need like a small tank for my self to braze I was told the one they sell at home depo wont do and I should just buy a B tank. I could check ebay for a regulator.
Hey Steve NICE video on the torches, I will use the little trick for cleaning the torch, Did you always braze HVAC joints? The first company I started with back in 2004 would sliver solder using the Harris 7% silver solder on the R22 units. Had very few problems with leaks as long as you cleaned the copper real well and used a good quality flux. When R410a units came along they moved to brazing the joints.
Great Choice of Torches. But for allot of HVAC work we use smaller torches, generally. But if you are doing a larger job, you will want to opt in to the bigger torches. Basic propane and mapp gasses are still both viable choices for many small level jobs. However, I do allot of steel work and welding lately, where the bigger torches are much more applicable.
I grew up using the oxygen / acetylene and I've really been thinking about trying a turbo torch set up like you have with the smaller tank, the one you use for attic work. Do you have any suggestions on a brand?
Enjoyed your video Steven, but I was taught to open the Acetylene turbo torch MC tank valve all the way open. And at the turbo torch TIP all the way open, Do you agree?
I am having a problem with my B tank.I picked it up a few years ago when I worked in the HVAC trade. I broke it out and the tip gets cherry red . The tip has only one ring around the tip, and I am using acedelne. I had to braze shut 3/16 copper tubing for auto application brake line. I was able to but had to stop quickly due to the tip turning cherry red. I dont recall it ever doing that, Normally it would upon adjustment with the regulator prove a blue flame. What may be wrong?
I learned to solder with a regular soft solder tip and braze with a turbo tip. To take the state exam you must use an oxy acetylene. Now I had some experience using the cutting torch, cutting steel. But for copper you have to be real careful using oxygen. You can burn a hole through it. That's why the state makes you use it. They want to know you can control the heat.
Hey Steve did u find that little black round knob in the woods , I think Ralph threw it there in one of his videos , just kidding . Nice vid explaining what u run for different issues .
justin henning the problem with the nobe is there is no leverage to open or shut off the tank ,,,maybe thats why he tossed it in the woods .or maybe he was trying to kill a bird for supper .i do not think his old lady cooks much lol
Steve, that was great. When we figured out how to use fire, it changed the world.
Thanks for the demonstration on the welding tips and the different setups. Great video.
I just bought one of those magnet nobs.just gotta worry about losing them.the small turbo torch is my favorite one I got too.easy to carry on job.thank Steve for all the great videos and sharing your tricks of the trade.
For the 1st 3 years of being in hvac I used the oxy-ace setup... new job guy I work with uses b-tank. .. whole differnt breed.. takes some getting used to! Thanx for the video brother
Learned again from your old vids👍
Thanks for the cleaning tip. I wasnt aware of how to reverse that through the handle. Good video.
Thanks Steve, very helpful video like a classroom on the air.
Finally someone that answers the question on the turbo torch tips. Much appreciate it!
Very informative video. I appreciate the detail on all the tips and setups. Good work all the way around. 👍
*Great info and video, Stevo. You are **_The Man_** of the HVAC community.*
Cooll Asice thanks for commenting asice
Steve thanks so much for sharing your knowledge brother.
Great video liked how you explained the different tips and what you like to use.
AirOasis Mechanical HVAC thanks for watching
Very nice video. Thank You Steve !
Great video I really like all your videos and I really appreciate them and you for taking the time. Thanks again your the man
MIKE HERBERT thanks for the support
Great video! Have learned a ton from your videos.
Thanks for making this video. Perfect for what I was looking for.
Nice video Steve, very well done. Take care, Brett
hvactecster79 thanks brett
Very informative. Appreciate your videos.
Great video Steve, a lot of good information. Thank you.
DC Rickerson thanks for watching
Great video Steve, thank you!!
thank you for all the info . great video
Great video steven lavimoniere good informative! Thanks!!!!!
leanorlando thanks for watching
Thanks for the video brother, very informative
Thank you so much I've learned a lot from you
Great vid Steven.
Daniel Zamora thanks for watching
Nice video.
Thanks for sharing
Great video. Thanks for posting.
S Sam thanks for watching
Excellent video Steve. If I was in the trade I think I would use Staybrite 8 or something similar for refrigerant lines. I just don't like everything getting so hot. I believe the trade went with brazing as overkill to cover the many techs who are not good at soldering or don't want to take the time to clean the joints well.
Nicholas CeeA ya staybrite 8 seems like a good thing i might run with it
A nice compilation of torches there Steve , you sure carry a lot of equipment in your truck........!
Keep up the good work buddy..... : )
yensabi thanks for commenting
Very informative... Thank you.
Thanks Steven for taking the time on the weekend to make this video. I appreciate it. I'm learning everyday from your videos!
Brad1237202 thanks for the support
Great video, that old Presto-lite torch brings back memories that's what I learned on , its great for lead work , Which is not used as much today. Like roof flashings, shower pans, wiped lead joints. Keep up the nice work, I really enjoy your videos.
gerry mcadams turbo torches are alive and well ,,still being used today ,and every day
that Presto-lite is not a turbo torch ? right
your right .. presto light is old style,, sorry i read the comment wrong
That's ok,
thank's steve for sharing!!!!!
very informative ,a Loyal follower
I think I'm going to try the MC tank turbo torch with the A8 tip and I'll use my other set up for bigger stuff. I've been looking at this for awhile I hate lugging my heavy torches around on rooftops and in attics
Great video.
good video, thanks for the tricks, You're the best
Hybrid nj thanks for commenting n.j.
There is an A-3 acetylene tip which is the smallest and it rated for 1/2" & 3/4" copper.
The LP & map gas tips are bigger in general and have a bigger flame than acetylene.
Yes the LP tips can be used with map gas. There is also an adapter so you can use the same turbo torch on both the B tank and MC tank.
Great vid learned from the best
thanks really good information
Loved this.
we need more torch safety vids on youtube
I've installed several supermarkets with just the turbo tourch only, my favorite. I've got a cart for my B tank, I'll rope it up on store roofs.
***** turbo torch will do .like i said its just a bigger flame .some guys just love the oxy /acti set up
B tank with a turbo torch is my choose up 1 inch brazing. Anything bigger I’ll go to the twin tank. I’ve tinned and soldiered a 6 inch brass flange with a B tank turbo but was a challenge. No leaks.
Thanks very much , you have explained all my questions about Turbo Torches , I think nobody have made such a detailed video .
Hope to see more of your beautiful detailed videos soon .
salehhamid i will be doing more for sure
Keep up the tech tip Steve ls great!! nice torch collection !!!!!
Harry Dickson thanks for watching
Nice video Steve. I use the oxy/acetylene or the B-tank. Not much propane here.
Rob HVAC thanks for commenting rob
great video Steve, and your sub Curt Shackelford left a great comment in regards to acetylene, keep the vids coming.
Marcus English thanks for commenting
Great video. Thanks !
15 haters gave this great video a thumbs down?? Always gotta be haters no matter what!
thanks for the video
Good informative idea. Wish I had seen it before I bought my setup. I bought a kit at the supply house. It was a Prestolite. It sucks compared to the Turbo Torch. Had to buy the Turbo Torch afterwards. Prestolites tips were very expensive and the heat output was mild in comparison to Turbo Torch. Prestolite called their tips " Swirljet Tips". They were physically larger but less hot. The only drawback from the TurboTorch is how loud they are. I find my head phones actually have a calming effect when I braze and I'll tend to slow things down and do a better job. Rarely do I use a B tank, I use the MC exclusively unless I'm doing a lot of brazing and large fittings. I just read the other day somewhere that the O rings on the Torch were red and black to separate them from getting mixed up one with the other. Acetylene and propane... one note on the designations of acetylene tanks is that many years ago, cars used acetelene for the head lamps/ lights, like the old Stanley Steamer cars, The designation B was for Buick, and MC stood for motorcycle... just a bit of history. The Nitrogen is sold in Cubic feet (CF) usually 15 or 40s. Co2 is usually a 60. Pressure in the Nitro should be checked when you pick it up. Full is 2000-2200psig. Some places short the tanks and you'll only get 1800. Then you'll be back sooner.
Hey Steve check out the Goss brand for the turbo air/acetylene tips. They are way quieter and have a much nicer flame, they will fit the turbo torch handle. Thanks for posting I always enjoy your videos.
Stephen Brawner thanks for watching
I love the J tips from goss
Great video Steven, nice to see the differences in the units. Keep up the good work.
Ray
Over50TXtech thanks for commenting
This was very informative. And I really liked the demonstrations. Thanks for the awesome video.
+Terry Candlestick thanks for watching
For what it's worth, the numbers on the acetylene tips are the amount of gas they burn in cubic feet per hour. so an A-5 tip burns about 5 cubic feet of gas an hour.
Best videos!!
Nice job !
Lance The HVAC Guy thanks for watching
excellent,and thanks
This is the video I've been waiting for. Thanks so much Steve. Very informative.
crvinva thanks for watching
You save so much money with the either air(natural air that's sucked in ) acetylene or turbotorch mapp.
TurboTorch Acetylene Tip are A-2 A-3 A-5 A-8 A-11 A-14 A-32 Air Acetylene Setup the strips as you call them are not for identification but are a crimp to hold the helical in place. ..
Great Video, Steve! Thanks for the detailed explanation of the various types of tips and gasses used in the trade. I'm not a plumber, and I didn't know about the B tank rig. In HVAC, acetylene is a great way to find leaks in HCFC and CFC systems. One of my friends uses an acetylene torch to locate even small leaks; as soon as the leaking refrigerant passes through the acetylene flame, it turns a bright green (phosgene gas). I know, I know, it's highly toxic! But what do you do outside in windy conditions when your H-10 ain't worth a $hit !!!
Thanks for sharing. You need to train an apprentice, Steve! If and when you retire, you're going to leave the trade with a lot of valuable experience and knowledge, and these United States are hurting for technical students to replace us older guys. What better way become an exceptional technician than to train under someone like you?
Outstanding
Once again Steve another great video keep up the good work you are the man
patrick fermo thanks for commenting
Thank you !
Thanks for this informative video!!! Is "MAPP" gas the same thing as "Propylene" gas?!.... What would you prefer to use it on, and what would be the best torch?!....
Can any or all of these torches be used to do actual "welding", or, are they only good for soldering?!....
Great video steve ! I need to get a MC tank for my self.
67tr876 them regulators for the m.c. tanks are hard to find
Ah ok i just need like a small tank for my self to braze I was told the one they sell at home depo wont do and I should just buy a B tank. I could check ebay for a regulator.
m.c.tank is just a smaller then the b tank same acetylene in side what ever just get the b tank there easer to find anyway .its just heavy
@Justin Henning, I had the same thought about Ralph when I saw Steve pull out that knob
Marcus English the problem with the knob is you get no leverage with it hard to shut of tightly or open if you use a lever tool to close
Thank you
Hi Steven, Thanks for doing this video. It really explained the torches very well. Very helpful to me. Thanks again.
1290457 thanks for watching
Hey Steve NICE video on the torches, I will use the little trick for cleaning the torch, Did you always braze HVAC joints?
The first company I started with back in 2004 would sliver solder using the Harris 7% silver solder on the R22 units. Had very few problems with leaks as long as you cleaned the copper real well and used a good quality flux. When R410a units came along they moved to brazing the joints.
That turbo torch mc set up was nasty,I was expecting it to be smoothe and quiet but maybe every tip was dirty
The turbo torches make a lout whistling/shrieking noise. that's normal.
Great Choice of Torches. But for allot of HVAC work we use smaller torches, generally. But if you are doing a larger job, you will want to opt in to the bigger torches. Basic propane and mapp gasses are still both viable choices for many small level jobs. However, I do allot of steel work and welding lately, where the bigger torches are much more applicable.
I just want to install a HVAC unit for myself. CAn I just buy the Acytelyne tank rather than the acetyline/Oxygen.
@@sh2697 yes
Great job, MC tank with a Turbo Torch has got the job done for me for over 20 years.
Pops McCartney i have no problem with the m.c. tank /turbo torch my self
I grew up using the oxygen / acetylene and I've really been thinking about trying a turbo torch set up like you have with the smaller tank, the one you use for attic work. Do you have any suggestions on a brand?
thank you!
MrPantsfullofshit thanks for watching
Enjoyed your video Steven, but I was taught to open the Acetylene turbo torch MC tank valve all the way open. And at the turbo torch TIP all the way open, Do you agree?
awesome ty
Do you ever use the cutting tip for the oxy acetylene torch?
What torches will work for stay brite 8 on residential ac?
Is it TurboTorch Swirl on the acetylene MC tank (rather than TurboTorch Sof-Flame)? Thanks.
I am having a problem with my B tank.I picked it up a few years ago when I worked in the HVAC trade. I broke it out and the tip gets cherry red . The tip has only one ring around the tip, and I am using acedelne. I had to braze shut 3/16 copper tubing for auto application brake line. I was able to but had to stop quickly due to the tip turning cherry red. I dont recall it ever doing that, Normally it would upon adjustment with the regulator prove a blue flame. What may be wrong?
Steve where do you get your propane soft solder set up? I’ve been looking and can’t seem to find a similar tank or torch kit
What turbo torch tip do I need to braze a 3/8 through 7/8?
thanks! so your alu tank uses gas or something else? can you use MC tank for plumbing?
Like the video!!
Can you use the MC tank/torch for 1/2 soft soldier?
nice
Is the MC tank size is the same as oxygen acetylene tank I am trying to buy a turbo torch ?
What is the tip/attachment for the oxy acetylene torch that lets you run it on acetylene only?
found it! that was awesome
+Lex Vance thanks for the support lex
thanks
The number after the A on an air acetylene tip signifies how many cubic feet per hour of acetylene it burns. An A-11 will burn 11 CFH of acetylene
like to light the torch safely ive been told the regulators keep it from going past 15 psi is that true
I learned to solder with a regular soft solder tip and braze with a turbo tip. To take the state exam you must use an oxy acetylene. Now I had some experience using the cutting torch, cutting steel. But for copper you have to be real careful using oxygen. You can burn a hole through it. That's why the state makes you use it. They want to know you can control the heat.
Do you have the name or style number for the adapter
Which 1 burn hotter mapp or acetylene
Hey Steve did u find that little black round knob in the woods , I think Ralph threw it there in one of his videos , just kidding . Nice vid explaining what u run for different issues .
justin henning the problem with the nobe is there is no leverage to open or shut off the tank ,,,maybe thats why he tossed it in the woods .or maybe he was trying to kill a bird for supper .i do not think his old lady cooks much lol
steven lavimoni
Can you use mc tank to solder or its only for brazing
yes you can just gets hotter faster