What many beginner artist failed to see (including me) is that in most scenario that 3rd vanishing point is waaaaay off screen, giving the illusion that it's a 2 point perspective. Now i know what to look out, thankyou so much!
Today, I wouldn't describe shifting the center of your composition as something you should do -- technically what's happening here at 2:34 is that the perspective is CROPPED, almost as if you've taken a photo and cropped some of it out off-center. If you can imagine the canvas of this drawing extending further to the right, the perspective would look normal in the new detail drawn in those areas, and the ORIGINAL CROP of the drawing would be far off to the left side. You CAN do this, but again, it's important to understand that what you're really doing is cropping your perspective if the vertical isn't centered with your canvas.
Does that mean a third VP is always situated in the center between the two horizon line VP's, because you say it's cropped, they would move along with it right? So no distortion should happen? When is it appropriate for distortion and why? It's the placement of the third vp horizontally that's confusing me, when and why people have it off center Also is there a method to determine the POV degree of tilt to determine the distance of the third vp from the horizon line? sorry I know this is an old video but I'm stumped on those
@@Buutaro Sorry this response is two years late -- No actually, it means the third vanishing point is centered to the *image frame* -- above or below the horizon line. It doesn't have to be centered between the vanishing points, just centered to the frame. This is why if the third vanishing point is off-center, it's effectively the same as cropping the picture in to make it off-center.
I knew about 3 point perspective but I thought that the 3rd point was on the horizon line. So I struggled when I was doing it, so I decided to look up videos and found this one. Thank you for clearing that misconception for me.
Finally someone who addressed the FOV in perspective calculations. I did some calculations today, my curiosity was the distortion degree of a 90 degree object in perspective respective of its vertical off setting from a horizon line. According to my observation the 90 degree expansion depends and is related to vertical degree of the object from a horizon. So for example a cube's top 90 deg surface angle will appear as 180-15=165 degree angle if cube is placed 15 degrees lower than a horizon line.
hey man, great video! I was hoping to find a video exactly like this, the movement of the 3rd vanishing point, towards the left or right. great explanation. thank you :)))) !
obviously, a drawing isn't limited to 3 points. There is one and two, mandatory on the horizon line, and the third creares the height axis. However, from there, if, let's say, the road defies the horizon line, it creates a 4th vanishing point. There can be hundreds of vanishing points. It's relatively easy to place them once you correctly placed the first 3 points. I'm not an expert, I'm a first year art collage student, but hopefully this helped
Hey @Matt Lawkowski, I have a question, for drawing a box on one of the side planes of a already drawn box three point perspective does have go back to third vanishing or just the 2 vanishing points on the horizon line ? This is some I have difficulty with
I have a question at 2:35 : is it that there are only 2 vanishing Points or are there 3 vanishing Points with 1 Just not being used. I am a little confused at a few Things about drawing in perspective
5-point is spherical perspective which is more complicated than I can get into in a youtube comment. But know that basically 5-point covers a 180-degree spherical panorama while 6-point covers a 360-degree spherical panorama.
@@mikewilliamsii6478 that’s a line I could have written better way back when I made these videos - but essentially, if you try to pull a lot of flashy tricks to make your work look more impressive, it may come off as a gimmick and diminish the overall impact of your body of work. When building a portfolio it’s good to show how clearly you can convey ideas and details without relying on tricks. For example, The movie Battleship Earth is famous for using Dutch Angles in almost every shot, so people remember the movie more for THAT rather than the story
No disrespect but your videos incorrect as far as the third vanishing point you can't put it off center. That excuse the buildings that makes them slanted. The vanishing point for the third point in 3-point perspective has to be perpendicular to the horizon line in dead center for the person viewing it to put it on the side of the screen is acting as if the person is viewing it from multiple directions you can only view the center of your perspective from one position. The third vanishing point is like a point on the y-axis if it was a grid you can't put the y-axis anywhere besides the middle of the page and if you move the y-axis you have to rotate the x-axis which is the horizon line which is why your picture looks skewed with the guy on the motorbike
2:28 only the perspective grid that you have in the middle is correct the other two on the right and left aren't correct because that would mean the buildings are slanted and as you know buildings are built straight up. The horizon line represents the ground. You have buildings that appear to be slanted. Buildings can lean n-word like in the middle picture because they're not actually leaning inward that's just perspective but if they lean away from you they actually are leaning away like in the outer two what perspective would cause that that's not the person viewing it isn't standing to the right or to the left so the buildings wouldn't appear to be leaning or slanted towards the left or right
@@jerrygraves6531 yeah I did these videos shortly after I got out of college (over 10 years ago.) Today I wouldn’t explain it that way at all. I believe I left a comment down here explaining why that part of the video is incorrect based on what I eventually learned instead.
@foxorian it's interesting because many people get this incorrect. You're not the only one in TH-cam David Finch has a similar error in one of his video about perspective that I just watched and he's a professional comic book artist.
Everyone learns differently and different explanations work better for some people, (as evidenced by these ideas helping many, not all, but many budding artists out there.) This is why it’s good to have different people explaining things in their own words, in case a like-minded individual learns best from them. While there is some oversimplification here, I think for some people it can start the journey of a base understanding of thinking about and practicing perspective drawing, rather than being a full college course on how to master it as a craft. YMMV.
@@foxorian That's why I watched a different video, thank you for introducing me into Three Point perspective though, I'll take it from here and use what I know to learn myself. If I ever need a reference on what things should look like, I'll definitely come back either here or there to the other video. Thanks for trying! :D
What many beginner artist failed to see (including me) is that in most scenario that 3rd vanishing point is waaaaay off screen, giving the illusion that it's a 2 point perspective. Now i know what to look out, thankyou so much!
This is a video that gave me that "OH THAT'S HOW IT WORKS" moment, after the class I'm taking basically muddled through it. Thank you!
also your voice kinda reminds me of the math guy on khan academy .. which subconsciously makes me pay more attention to what you’re saying lol
Woa! What a coincidence. Thought it was just me🥲
Ah, finally.... I have watched so many videos on 3 point perspective and couldn't find anyone that actually explained it. This was very helpful 💞
This entire series is so underrated. Good job man, I find this series very helpful 👍
Never seen a video from you before, but i immediately subscribed seeing this
Today, I wouldn't describe shifting the center of your composition as something you should do -- technically what's happening here at 2:34 is that the perspective is CROPPED, almost as if you've taken a photo and cropped some of it out off-center. If you can imagine the canvas of this drawing extending further to the right, the perspective would look normal in the new detail drawn in those areas, and the ORIGINAL CROP of the drawing would be far off to the left side. You CAN do this, but again, it's important to understand that what you're really doing is cropping your perspective if the vertical isn't centered with your canvas.
Hey man thanks for the Spanish subtitles we appreciate, there's a lot of people that don't speak English and love to draw
Does that mean a third VP is always situated in the center between the two horizon line VP's, because you say it's cropped, they would move along with it right? So no distortion should happen? When is it appropriate for distortion and why? It's the placement of the third vp horizontally that's confusing me, when and why people have it off center
Also is there a method to determine the POV degree of tilt to determine the distance of the third vp from the horizon line? sorry I know this is an old video but I'm stumped on those
@@Buutaro Sorry this response is two years late -- No actually, it means the third vanishing point is centered to the *image frame* -- above or below the horizon line. It doesn't have to be centered between the vanishing points, just centered to the frame. This is why if the third vanishing point is off-center, it's effectively the same as cropping the picture in to make it off-center.
I knew about 3 point perspective but I thought that the 3rd point was on the horizon line. So I struggled when I was doing it, so I decided to look up videos and found this one. Thank you for clearing that misconception for me.
Finally someone who addressed the FOV in perspective calculations. I did some calculations today, my curiosity was the distortion degree of a 90 degree object in perspective respective of its vertical off setting from a horizon line. According to my observation the 90 degree expansion depends and is related to vertical degree of the object from a horizon. So for example a cube's top 90 deg surface angle will appear as 180-15=165 degree angle if cube is placed 15 degrees lower than a horizon line.
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after many videos I finally understood the 3 point perspective. Though a simple concept it's really confusing when drawing
Finally a good video explaining when to use which perspective
Thank you so much for putting the tips at the bottom of each slide
hey man, great video! I was hoping to find a video exactly like this, the movement of the 3rd vanishing point, towards the left or right. great explanation. thank you :)))) !
What a good explanation, I finally understand this.
great video man!
Super insightful! Thank you!
Hello I would like to ask about drawing curves in perspective such as curved roads or curved walls. How would you go about them?
Probably four point perspective or use google, idk sorry
Check modern day James
@@amplexian8376 ill try that thanks
@@Aidan-ku6tz its fine
obviously, a drawing isn't limited to 3 points. There is one and two, mandatory on the horizon line, and the third creares the height axis. However, from there, if, let's say, the road defies the horizon line, it creates a 4th vanishing point. There can be hundreds of vanishing points. It's relatively easy to place them once you correctly placed the first 3 points. I'm not an expert, I'm a first year art collage student, but hopefully this helped
PERFECT video thanks
Amazing. Thank you
This video is amazing, why did he stop posting? Miss you man!❤
This was really really helpful thanks!
great explanation, thanks man
Thanks!
Excellent sir
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Thank you
Best explanation ever! However I need help to understand that compass analogy because I didn't really get it.
For those that want some insane examples check out Kim Jung Gi.
Would a 4 (or even more) point perspective be possible?
And if not, why? Somehow my brain cant process this question..
Hey @Matt Lawkowski, I have a question, for drawing a box on one of the side planes of a already drawn box three point perspective does have go back to third vanishing or just the 2 vanishing points on the horizon line ? This is some I have difficulty with
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I have a question at 2:35 : is it that there are only 2 vanishing Points or are there 3 vanishing Points with 1 Just not being used. I am a little confused at a few Things about drawing in perspective
Any tips for 5 point perspective?
5-point is spherical perspective which is more complicated than I can get into in a youtube comment. But know that basically 5-point covers a 180-degree spherical panorama while 6-point covers a 360-degree spherical panorama.
@@foxorian i see, thanks for the quick reply!
Hey! Question
Is it possible to have over 2 vanishing points on 1 horizon line?
Also, is it possible to have over 1 horizon line in a drawing?
sir how do we know where to plot the points
What do you mean by gimmicky when you mention that you always try to go overboard with crazy angles and how it dominates your portfolio?
@@mikewilliamsii6478 that’s a line I could have written better way back when I made these videos - but essentially, if you try to pull a lot of flashy tricks to make your work look more impressive, it may come off as a gimmick and diminish the overall impact of your body of work. When building a portfolio it’s good to show how clearly you can convey ideas and details without relying on tricks. For example, The movie Battleship Earth is famous for using Dutch Angles in almost every shot, so people remember the movie more for THAT rather than the story
can you explain more deeply about the curve
No disrespect but your videos incorrect as far as the third vanishing point you can't put it off center. That excuse the buildings that makes them slanted. The vanishing point for the third point in 3-point perspective has to be perpendicular to the horizon line in dead center for the person viewing it to put it on the side of the screen is acting as if the person is viewing it from multiple directions you can only view the center of your perspective from one position. The third vanishing point is like a point on the y-axis if it was a grid you can't put the y-axis anywhere besides the middle of the page and if you move the y-axis you have to rotate the x-axis which is the horizon line which is why your picture looks skewed with the guy on the motorbike
2:28 only the perspective grid that you have in the middle is correct the other two on the right and left aren't correct because that would mean the buildings are slanted and as you know buildings are built straight up. The horizon line represents the ground. You have buildings that appear to be slanted. Buildings can lean n-word like in the middle picture because they're not actually leaning inward that's just perspective but if they lean away from you they actually are leaning away like in the outer two what perspective would cause that that's not the person viewing it isn't standing to the right or to the left so the buildings wouldn't appear to be leaning or slanted towards the left or right
@@jerrygraves6531 yeah I did these videos shortly after I got out of college (over 10 years ago.) Today I wouldn’t explain it that way at all. I believe I left a comment down here explaining why that part of the video is incorrect based on what I eventually learned instead.
@foxorian it's interesting because many people get this incorrect. You're not the only one in TH-cam David Finch has a similar error in one of his video about perspective that I just watched and he's a professional comic book artist.
This didn't help much, too much oversimplication. A common mistake most teachers make
Everyone learns differently and different explanations work better for some people, (as evidenced by these ideas helping many, not all, but many budding artists out there.) This is why it’s good to have different people explaining things in their own words, in case a like-minded individual learns best from them. While there is some oversimplification here, I think for some people it can start the journey of a base understanding of thinking about and practicing perspective drawing, rather than being a full college course on how to master it as a craft. YMMV.
@@foxorian That's why I watched a different video, thank you for introducing me into Three Point perspective though, I'll take it from here and use what I know to learn myself. If I ever need a reference on what things should look like, I'll definitely come back either here or there to the other video. Thanks for trying! :D