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I've studied this for a long time, and yet I am torn as to whether or not the Nachash in Genesis 3 is the same as Lucifer (Satan, The Adversary, who rebelled, etc.) who tempted Eve. Is it that Lucifer, HIMSELF, is a Nachash class of being or was it he, HIMSELF, who did the tempting/smooth-talking of Eve in the Garden, or is it that the Adversary/Lucifer/whatever "possessed" or somehow "coaxed" this "Serpent" (nachash) into tempting Eve. So, in essence, is it literally Satan who's doing the tempting, or is it a conspirator of Satan's who did the tempting FOR Satan? And if it's the latter, why would Lucifer do it that way, and not just do it himself? Your thoughts?
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I love Dr. Heiser's teachings. He really opened my eyes to a lot of things the modern church does not talk about. May he rest in peace.
Basically Eve knew it was a divine being and assumed that he meant no harm.
@@MysteriousApocalypseMan like moses who burned acacai til the tent was full of smoke? oh yeah you guys follow jesus who says ignore the propehts and God
@@michael.1517 its in the torah, that thing christains like to twist
@@michael.1517 it was satire but matthew 11 14 contradicts malachai 4 5, and dumdums like you will google an answere different from the 20 questions not knowing i read the prophecies you ignore
@@michael.1517 Leviticus chapter 6. exodus 30:1 the verse to shorten it for the lazy minded now go cry about moses being a shaman and jesus a false messiah
@@michael.1517 i dont sppeak autisktktkttkktkt
There is a reference to the snake crawling on the earth and eating the dust of the earth.
Over the years this has made me ponder what this meant;well a few years ago I found out that snakes tastes small particles of dust in the air every time they flick their tongues;they take these dust particles into your body to help them identify threats food surroundings and more they store the dust like a map for future reference. So they literally eat dust.
This is a fine complementary presentation to Heiser's lectures on this subject. Wonderful graphics, excellent narration. Thank you!
Imagine snakes with wings thats why it is called a dragon a seraphin...
Angels are part of the Unseen World which only God knows the secrets of...
The Serpent was not a snake. It was the Nachash, a Seraphim angel which was possessed by Lucifer who was a Cherubim. The Seraphs are upright walking and talking beings, not literal "snakes."
@@Rotisiv you can see angels...people in the bible did
I'm glad to c more and more people stepping outside of the evangelical box. Dr. Heiser is with the bizness!
Bizness? Anthony, can you expand please? Thank you sir, Christopher
@@christophersleight19 Business
@@christophecrist2171 hey Christophe forgive me, I wasn't doing a grammar police thing.
In comments I sometimes miss meanings, Anthony may have just been given the Dr. H some props.
My request for expanded thought was just me trying to find out if there was some slang I was unfamiliar with or some other meaning. I hope you understand it was not an attempt to start a throw down or just be a jerk. Thanks, greetings from the Midwest Christopher
I have wondered if the eating of dust refers to the destruction of mankind because Adam was made from the dust, snakes don't eat dust but the serpent destroys humans made of dust. Just a thought.
The only thing holding the dust together is God, The Truth, in the soul. Add a bit of deception(ego) to the mix and the dust comes apart.
Insightful
Adam and Eve
caroline graystone You're reading between the lines! Back off with the wacky tobaccy and read Genesis 1 - 3 again.
Yes, the dust refers to man. Satan is a man, not the cherubim.
Amazing video!
InspiringPhilosophy Oh, Michael, such a coincidence that we follow the same channel. How are you going?
@@awhimoke3262 rabbi tovia singer is shit.
Beautiful. Heiser's book is going on my reading list.
Well put! The best breakdown I've come across yet.
Thank you, I loved this!
Please make more videos like this.
loving the videos ben.
looking forward to the the upcoming video about creation days.
I'm impressed. You've done a great job. You took what Heiser presented to us in 30 minutes, and explained it in half the time just as well.
Tell me, was this a project for an advanced degree?
Amazing, the best video I have seen explaining the snake. Congratulations from argentina.
Really nice summary of the topic 👌
That is easily one of the most interesting things I have ever listened to.
That was wonderful Ben thank you
excellent video, great presentation of the material
That was so good im going to listen again
Cool channel, Ben. I've enjoyed a number of your videos.
Very well made video. Thank you
Such an underrated channel
A fresh new take on Biblical research! (at least for me).
Thanks so much Brother, loved it.
Wonderful study, well done 👍
Well done, extremely well researched and clearly presented. Showing the parallel scriptures helped show the complete message. Thanks for you effort.
Very creative presentation... 3 Cheers!
These are amazing
Really well done
Great video and to the point
Amazing ! thanks
This is why it drives me NUTS when natural materialistic modern people say nonsense about the snake being an evolutionary symbol of predation. Like that doesn’t even make sense that Israelites would fear garden snakes above everything else never mind the fact that the snake symbolizes an angel.
Great video
Makes sense to me, great presentation...
Thank you Ben.
Well done! Subscribed! And liked!
Phenomenal video. I have really been enjoying your intense treatment of the Hebrew and the Ancient Culture. I'm currently a Biblical Studies student in Seminary and you're driving me in the direction of an Old Testament Studies Ph.D. I do have a question for you though, how do you treat the beginning of Job then if the rebellion of Lucifer was in the Garden (if that is indeed what you are arguing)? In Job, the Accuser is still allowed access to the throne room with the Sons of God, yet Job, though written earlier than Genesis, came Chronologically later than Adam (barring a pre-adamic creation and humanity).
😌..Great Vid! I'm officially a new subscriber👍
the dust thing is really interesting. I had been kicking around this idea, i had been listening to the bible project and some stuff like this came up, and i had in my head the thought that maybe he wasn't cast to his belly because he lost his feet, but if he was angelic than maybe he lost his wings. but this idea that the dust is attatched to the idea of the underworld is actually way more illuminating. this makes alot of sense, really fascinating.
I'm glad you understand about the Devine Council
Good video! 👍
Wow and wow! Lots to take on board.
Have to get this book also.
AWESONE piece!!!
Interesting view of the topic, know of Dr Michael Heiser and his view on Psalm 82, very presented video as this first I seen of this channel and I even seen a comment from IP a year old below. Allways test everything.
Micheal Heisner explains it good!👍
Excellent
Great video ................
Enlightening!
Great insights....
"If you read Gilgamesh in high school..." but wait a second... they actually teach that in school?
They do
Dr Heiser is the best
Thank you🙏
Thank you 🙏🏼
Accounts of these entities are found throughout all ancient texts both prior to & after the biblical accounts.
Saraphim remind me somewhat of dragons.
Exactly, they look reptiloid
Answers in Genesis thinks that they are pterosaurs.
Very good video. Its a bit problematic that you refer to this being as "Lucifer" however, considering this association with the Roman deity was made very late, and only based on a single line from Isaiah in which he is applying a metaphor about the movement of the planet Venus aka the morning star ⭐(known to the Romans as Lucifer) to the king of Babylon's fall from grace.
This was really interesting. Well done.
Newly subscribed. I like your presentations but have two visual quibbles….it is really hard to see yellow font on a white background and the font size is really smalL in some places. The slides are well laid out and visually interesting otherwise. Maybe it’s just me….
Well done!
I also made some studies on the subject, except that I don't have any book written.
First: lucifer it is not the name of anything like what we know as being Lucifer (the archangel, or cereb/Cherubim). Heilel ben Shahar (in short - the morning star), in the literal context of Isaiah, it refers to the king of Babylon. But lucifer is just a word, a calling (I think you should have make it clear), a Latin translation of the word heilel. Heilel ben Shahar can be translated in a few ways (we exclude the meaning of the word lucifer - light bringer). "Heilel" can be "helel" and "shahar" cand be "saharon". Heilel - refers to a bright/shining star. Helel - to shine, also to boast. Shahar - dawn, morning, east (can refer to the crescent moon). Saharon - moon or crescent moon. So, "Heilel ben Shahar" - Shining star son of Dawn or simply a shining star and the crescent moon (removing the word "son"/ben).
Now. If you read "The Epics of Baal", you will find that it can very well be what it's written in Isaiah (Heilel ben Shahar is Baal)(star and crescent being the symbol of Ba'al).
The other thing that I have find about "Cherubim"(kerubhim) or singular Cherub(kerubh): Caleb/Kaleb (used as a name) or keleb The Bible's common word for dog. Also, insn't it "keleb" the same with Cerberus/Kerberos? (this may very well be far-fetched)
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I think you mean the devil ?. There is a Lucifer, his name is Ea . Yet there is a Satan too. His name is Marduk. All of the Elohim are the devils !
Yes studying that one book really shows how much you don`t know about the subject ! Ken Harris !
Interesting, the symbol of Islam is also star and crescent moon. Any commonalities between Babylonian baal and Arab Islam?
@@emil_king8237 More commonalities are the Kaaba ! The Kaaba had 365 idols in it before Islam was founded by Muhammed. The last Idol in the Kaaba was Hubal. HU is a god from Egypt that personifies the spoken word. Then there is the Bal which is really Baal. Baal is Marduk Ra. Marduk may very well be Allah ! Although I have been told that title went to Nannar Suen !
@ericlogos man, you really made me laugh... thats a phrase I'll not soon forget, LOL! Thanks, sincerely. 😂👍
excellent!!!
It makes sense, given how the Devil was spoken to be the highest of all the angels and capable of deception in the most brilliant disguises.
Given that the Genesis narrative is closely tied to Mesopotamian mythology, it's not a stretch to connect the serpent of Eden (Nāḥāš - נחש) with the Sumerian deity Ningishzida whose symbol was that of a snake. A ruler of the underworld (the dust), he was also known as the "Lord of the Good Tree".
I've studied this for a long time, and yet I am torn as to whether or not the Nachash in Genesis 3 is the same as Lucifer (Satan, The Adversary, who rebelled, etc.) who tempted Eve. Is it that Lucifer, HIMSELF, is a Nachash class of being or was it he, HIMSELF, who did the tempting/smooth-talking of Eve in the Garden, or is it that the Adversary/Lucifer/whatever "possessed" or somehow "coaxed" this "Serpent" (nachash) into tempting Eve. So, in essence, is it literally Satan who's doing the tempting, or is it a conspirator of Satan's who did the tempting FOR Satan? And if it's the latter, why would Lucifer do it that way, and not just do it himself? Your thoughts?
I really dont think so.There is little similiarity between Ningishzida and Nachas aside from the fact that they are both serpentine and associated with earthen elements;their roles could not be more different.(Lord of the good tree in Ningishzida's case is more of the fact that he was associated with vegetation)
It is more reasonable to infer that both near east cultures venerated serpents as divine or semi-divine beings
feathers and scales are just different modifications of the same anatomical feature ..hood of a cobra was also referred to as wings. serpent vs seraphim is comparable to naga vs Garuda
a great video
I also dug around and found that serpent had the different meanings in Hebrew, one being divination. Definition of divination can mean "teacher of forbidden knowledge". And thats why I concluded it was used as serpent.
I also did some studying and it seems to me that all men and women from beginning to end of time was as one in Adam. before God placed Adam in the Garden he told him to be fruitful and multiply, and it was so. This was before the seperation of eve as well.
Meaning we all made the decision together as mankind to learn the knowledge of good and evil, Adam being all men and Eve all women together as one. Giving us all full accountability for our knowledge and punishment in this life. (Dying). Ive never heard this preached by anyone either. I read Genesis so many times b4 without understanding it the way I began to during that study in a camper that day alone. Tell me what u think about that.
From what Ive studied... Adam prounouced Adom means mankind....
@luis garcia Elohim with a Capital E in Hebrew translates into "He that is the Power over powers". The Angels are alot Like us in we are both a creation from The Most High or Elohim.
elohim small e, just means gods or powers. So angels played no part in creation. Also the word rib is actually more commonly translated as womb, and can even be translated in that verse as rib and womb, which is pretty amazing.
My Mom got a cat and just called it Kitten for a few years until one day she named it Fluff. Adam just called her Woman until Genesis 3:20 . . ." After this" Adam called his wife’s name Eve, "because" she had to become the mother of everyone living. . .
seems to me, to be
Jesse Clinton God told the sixth day creation to be fruitful and multiply. That’s all the races. Seventh day God rests. Eighth day He makes Adam. Then , later Eve. He does not tell them to be fruitful. He tests them. If they would of passed the test, God would have overshadowed Eve with His Spirit and Christ would of come through her and then eventually go be the savior to the sixth day creation. But Eve had sex with Satan, for he wanted to taint the seed, knowing Christ was to come through the genealogy of Adam. So, Gods backup plan was to follow the seed of Adam ( the tribe of Judah) and when an obedient couple came, overshadow her.( Mary and Joseph) they both are from the tribe of Judah. Hope this helped. Reread Genesis one and two. Peace be with you
Jesse Clinton don’t take my word, reread it. He never tells Adam and Eve to procreate
One of the subjects I love to study is ancient religion/mythology....I appreciate your research... this was very informative....I would like to add that we must understand that way before the scroll of Genesis was written,God in feminine form and the serpent were very popular symbols of religious belief....in some cultures,these ideas were also connected....I believe that the author of Genesis was directly trying to discredit these older beliefs...some of which originated in Egypt and other African cultures..
The Serpent was a Pharaoh...
his mythological form was a
wink at the Uraeus (rearing serpent) on the Pharaonic crown.
Seraphim is an anagramn for
Ph-r-s of Am(un).
I believe that approximately
translates to
"The highest house of Amun".
"House" = royal heiress
@@Highspergamy thanks
Quite interesting Ben, excellent exegesis. Now, my questions are, when God said that the serpent was more crafty than any beast. If the serpent was Lucifer and not a disguise, if he showed himself as what he is, why is he compared to beasts? which beasts is God referring to?
And Gen 3:1 says "the serpent became cunning from all living (chay חית translated 'beasts') of the field made Yahweh God . . .." This excludes Satan from being the serpent because he was not a living being of the field made by Yahweh.
@@solitairecat1 Actually such a translation isn't inherent within the verse. InspiringPhilosphy actually has a video where he addresses this very objection:
1. Genesis 3A: The Serpent (Timestamp - 5 minutes 30 seconds)
th-cam.com/video/72T2bW8bkfA/w-d-xo.html
Needs more views
Very interesting
Thank you
the egyptian word srf you have in 2:36 is actually warmth, inflamation, fever (Faulkner: Middle Egyptian Concise Dictionary). Serpent can be written in different other ways: hfAw, naw, Ddft, fnT, rkrk, sA-tA (son of the soil).
I need more. Give me more info please.
Very well put if i must say
I think the theory of the triple entendre is fascinating
Great job! I have an idea I’d love to talk to you about... is that possible?
We can shine in any verbs nouns or adjectives we want
One more piece to my puzzle
May you please send me sources to the pictures of the seals? Your blog with citations is no longer up and I want to find those seals names so I can find their pictures online.
Perfect.
Where can I find this picture of snake seraphim featured in your video?
All the Egyptian line images and line Judean seals are from Othmar Keel's book Jahwe-Visionen und Siegelkunst, which he collected from Egyptological 20th century public domain works. The ink art is original to me.
Beautiful brother, truly stunning art!
I wish I had four hands so I could give this video four thumbs up!
Fun fact: there is a 900 km Seraphim mudfossil in Morocco desert.
Thanks
Why did you change the adjective "deceiver" to "diviner" in the Genesis 3 column @ 6:25 ? Was that just a slip? Or????
The word you explain in egyptian at 2:33 is srf, it means, according to Faulkner dictionary: Warmth, temperature, fever, imflamation or mood. I can't find it meaning serpent, for which are other words like Djedefet, Hefaw, Aker, Sa-Ta...
Great video although I believe Gen 3:15 says "He will 'crush' your head", not "bruise" it.
I missed the connection with the day star from 1 Enoch to the serpent in Genesis 3:1… Most scholars do not connect these two entities.
Isaiah talk about the seraph 3 times, they are winged flying snakes who burn without a doubt also call the dragon in the book of revelation
Is this semetic concept of shining forth similar to the greecian concept from which we get phenomenon? There also seems to be a play that human vision is particularly adept at perceiving snakes, almost as if they shine out to us.
so... after the serpent got eve to eat the fruit of the tree, how long before adam started barbequing ribs ?
I’ve studied stuff like this for a while... but this video and your Genesis 1:1 video are among the most perplexing to me.
How do you do it??
Great.
I've heard it was Osiris and Isis that we call Adam and Eve. Can anyone answer if you know or think you know??
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why you don't have a million sub and a billion view :(
sharing this with friends n fam
What do know about the four headed beast in Ezekiel?
Thanks. What do you think of Stavrakopoulou’s bbc show on Eden? Have you seen it?
Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14 are talking about Adam and the Seraph who tempted him simultaneously. They’re both guilty of the same sin, it just manifested differently. They both have to participate in the rehabilitation process.
It’s like a parent catching two sons in the act while they’re doing something they shouldn’t, and you as the parent have to devise a method for them both to atone.
What about Hebrew "nacah" = to test / try / tempt (Genesis 22:1) ?
We can only speculate till the end.