Magamda din Yung sa navantia kasi may offer sila na transfer technology di tulad ng Korea kahit sila nanalo sa mga project ng Philippines navy kaso Wala man lang transfer technology 😢
Transfer ng pohang class lods .kaso prang di nman priority ang pinas....if why i...may under the table na nangyayari ..panay made in korea kahit maganda ang offer ng turkey dati.....
Depende din yun sa package na kinukuha, may package kc na kasama yung transfer of tech pero syempre mas mahal yun. Yun ngang BRP Jose Rizal at Antonio Luna binarat daw yun kaya may mga kulang na tech. Nagsabi naman yung HD HHI na open sila for technology transfer kung gusto ng navy natin. Since bubuhayin ulit nila yung agila shipyard sa subic, siguro dun na tayo papunta kc parang dun na din nila gagawin mga next batches ng navy ships natin.
di magandang magpatrabaho, kahit tanong mo sa mga workers ng HANJIN bukod sa mga kuripot nanakit mga yan sa mga kababayan natin kaya tama lang na wala ng korean made.s@@GameMode7878
PN Requirements: - at least 4000 tons - at least 130 m long - 32 or more VLS - AESA - TASS and Hull Sonar - 2x4 Anti-Ship Missile| - 1 or 2 CIWS Deciding factors would be is convenience, availability of spare parts and commonality. Based on these it's in favor of HHI's 4200. But we can opt for other builders that also offer submarines so they can have common systems. PN should require an integrated mast, stealthy design and not the basic options for each sensors. Apart from the ships in the video we should also consider Japan's New FFM, UK's Arrowhead 140, and MEKO 200.
I was amazed with South Korea technological advancement , they could invent everything like motorcycle , car , Jeeps , trucks , warships , missile boats , coast guard ships , commercial plane , Jet Fighters , rockets , MBT , small tanks , etc. SK helps AFP M. all specified above regarding military assets , all supplied by SK .
I prefer the Alpha 5000 ngl. The PN has only been acquiring light frigates and i think it needs a little adjustment. The Alpha 5000 is perfect with its mini destroyer like capabilities and as a Heavy Frigate it wint be as maneuverable as the Jose-Rizal class frigates but it sure will pack a punch
South Korea and Japan's escort ships have adopted 16 VLS (Vertical Launching Systems), but I think they don't need excessive armament because they have air defense destroyers. In the case of the Philippines, due to budget constraints, it seems that it will take a long time to maintain many vessels, so having more armament on a single ship appears to be beneficial. I also believe that more investment should be made in the ship's radar systems. South Korea's escort ships use the Quad Pack VLS, which allows for a maximum of 64 missiles with 16 VLS. However, I don't have information on what missiles are used on the Miguel Malvar-class frigate, so I'm curious about how the Philippines will operate them.
I can see the Navy acquiring the Hanwha design than the Navanta as Hanwha has become a largely influencial shipbuilder for the Philippine Navy. Not to mention, the Hanwha design would be efficient due to the same design overall for all Navy frigates. But Navanta's design is a battle-proven design, as seen by the Spanish Álvaro de Bazán-class frigates, the Australian Hobart-class destroyers, and the Norweigan Fridtjof Nansen-class frigates. So Navantia has a chance.
Whatever our navy chooses, either the Navantia or the Korean design, I think it would be better if our new frigates would be armed with 2 CIWS and not just a single CIWS, ( this doesn't count the 76mm Naval gun, others) one for the Bow & Stern section, coz we all know that our "potential adversary" has lots of naval ships and AShM's (Surface, Air, Land based & Submarine launched AShM's) and if we were to face-off, we could really expect a "salvo attack" of epic proportions, kinda like a threat involving multiple AShM's, say about 8, to more than 10 missiles fired in salvos and coming from different directions in order to overwhelm our ship's defence systems. We MAY run out of anti-air missiles in this process, so having 2 CIWS may increase our chances of surviving these attacks in this situation.
the philippines needed more on frigates than corvettes and coastal defenses.the government should prioritize navy and airforce assets rather than the army
Spanish frigate is the best, we already ordered many ship from korea yet technology transfer was NOT offered, they are not reaally sincere in helping us.
There's information about establishing a local construction system and a technology transfer package, but I've heard that there is no technology transfer at all in the Philippines. Is that true?
The main drawback both of them have just 16VLS,the Philippine Navy should go for at least 24VLS since the incoming corvettes have 16 anyways,gotta upgrade for more firepower,the DAMEN frigates that are bigger than either one of them can carry 24VLS,that's the Sigma 12516 Class frigate.
Hoping our AFP/PN will have many new military equipment such as destroyers (12) frigates (36), corvettes (36), offshore/onshore patrol vessels (36), Coastal patrol boats (60), fast attack crafts or MPAC (260), fast missiles craft (36), multi-role fighter aircrafts (180), Boeing P-8 Poseidon (2), A10 attack planes (6), attack helicopters (60), anti-submarine helicopters (36) and submarines (4), missile air defense systems, Unmanned aerial/sea vehicles, and high advance military communication systems for first line of defense and protection of our country's EEZ/territory. God bless Philippines.
Aminadong mas mahal ang presyo ng navantia pero mas malakas ang fire power at mas advance ang system pati narin ung inooffer nilang submarines na mas fire power at mas malaki kesa sa scorpene submarines. Kung may badget sana magandang bumili sa navantia kahit 2 alpha 5000 at 2 submarines kaya naman sana kung babawasan ung ibang pinag lalaanan ng pondo ng bansa at walang congresman o senador ang mga makiki alam ng pondo.
If we have our government budget i wish they will buy both ship..2 for ocean and 2 for navantia..those both ship is more capable if they will combine in combat😅😅 plss respect my comment.
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Dapat hati para para mabilis ma gawa
Navantia for me 👍👍👍
Agree coz alpha 5000 is literally a great frigate but we can consider it a lite destroyer if Philippines choose navantia
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Whatever ship allows tech transfer and allowed to be built in the Philippines in the future is the way to go.
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Navantia offer for technology transfer.,if i have to choose between this 2..i choose navantia..
Magamda din Yung sa navantia kasi may offer sila na transfer technology di tulad ng Korea kahit sila nanalo sa mga project ng Philippines navy kaso Wala man lang transfer technology 😢
Transfer ng pohang class lods .kaso prang di nman priority ang pinas....if why i...may under the table na nangyayari ..panay made in korea kahit maganda ang offer ng turkey dati.....
Depende din yun sa package na kinukuha, may package kc na kasama yung transfer of tech pero syempre mas mahal yun. Yun ngang BRP Jose Rizal at Antonio Luna binarat daw yun kaya may mga kulang na tech. Nagsabi naman yung HD HHI na open sila for technology transfer kung gusto ng navy natin. Since bubuhayin ulit nila yung agila shipyard sa subic, siguro dun na tayo papunta kc parang dun na din nila gagawin mga next batches ng navy ships natin.
di magandang magpatrabaho, kahit tanong mo sa mga workers ng HANJIN bukod sa mga kuripot nanakit mga yan sa mga kababayan natin kaya tama lang na wala ng korean made.s@@GameMode7878
Navantia ok yan..mass malaki..mas maraming armas mailalagay.. transfer of technology dapat..
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dapat yung kunin may transfer tecnology para makagawa barko pandigma pilipinas
PN Requirements:
- at least 4000 tons
- at least 130 m long
- 32 or more VLS
- AESA
- TASS and Hull Sonar
- 2x4 Anti-Ship Missile|
- 1 or 2 CIWS
Deciding factors would be is convenience, availability of spare parts and commonality. Based on these it's in favor of HHI's 4200. But we can opt for other builders that also offer submarines so they can have common systems. PN should require an integrated mast, stealthy design and not the basic options for each sensors. Apart from the ships in the video we should also consider Japan's New FFM, UK's Arrowhead 140, and MEKO 200.
I was amazed with South Korea technological advancement , they could invent everything like motorcycle , car , Jeeps , trucks , warships , missile boats , coast guard ships , commercial plane , Jet Fighters , rockets , MBT , small tanks , etc. SK helps AFP M. all specified above regarding military assets , all supplied by SK .
I'll be amazed when they can defend themselves
I prefer the Alpha 5000 ngl. The PN has only been acquiring light frigates and i think it needs a little adjustment. The Alpha 5000 is perfect with its mini destroyer like capabilities and as a Heavy Frigate it wint be as maneuverable as the Jose-Rizal class frigates but it sure will pack a punch
That's a good, hopefully for the PN, please like and subscribe thanks
South Korea and Japan's escort ships have adopted 16 VLS (Vertical Launching Systems), but I think they don't need excessive armament because they have air defense destroyers. In the case of the Philippines, due to budget constraints, it seems that it will take a long time to maintain many vessels, so having more armament on a single ship appears to be beneficial. I also believe that more investment should be made in the ship's radar systems.
South Korea's escort ships use the Quad Pack VLS, which allows for a maximum of 64 missiles with 16 VLS. However, I don't have information on what missiles are used on the Miguel Malvar-class frigate, so I'm curious about how the Philippines will operate them.
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@@gtdkim6941 뭔 개소리를 하는지 ....
Matindi ang banggaan ng dawang eto hehehe❤🎉❤ check the the Philippine FLAG plsss...
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I can see the Navy acquiring the Hanwha design than the Navanta as Hanwha has become a largely influencial shipbuilder for the Philippine Navy. Not to mention, the Hanwha design would be efficient due to the same design overall for all Navy frigates.
But Navanta's design is a battle-proven design, as seen by the Spanish Álvaro de Bazán-class frigates, the Australian Hobart-class destroyers, and the Norweigan Fridtjof Nansen-class frigates. So Navantia has a chance.
Whatever our navy chooses, either the Navantia or the Korean design, I think it would be better if our new frigates would be armed with 2 CIWS and not just a single CIWS, ( this doesn't count the 76mm Naval gun, others) one for the Bow & Stern section, coz we all know that our "potential adversary" has lots of naval ships and AShM's (Surface, Air, Land based & Submarine launched AShM's) and if we were to face-off, we could really expect a "salvo attack" of epic proportions, kinda like a threat involving multiple AShM's, say about 8, to more than 10 missiles fired in salvos and coming from different directions in order to overwhelm our ship's defence systems. We MAY run out of anti-air missiles in this process, so having 2 CIWS may increase our chances of surviving these attacks in this situation.
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@@TheMowst Already did that.
Discussion about Philippines military equipment mostly done in future tense
sana navantia nman piliin ng philippine navy maganda yong alpha 5000 mas malaki at hitik sa armas
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the philippines needed more on frigates than corvettes and coastal defenses.the government should prioritize navy and airforce assets rather than the army
Mas maganda Navantia , para ma iba naman tas baka hindi kulang kulang sa armaments
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Navantai na piliin dahil my transfer off ticnology para maging naman ang mga mang gagawang pilipino
When will it be delivered to PH Navy?
1:17 hey buddy umm not to hate but why is the philippine flag upside down?
I would like to suggest both brand
Spanish frigate is the best, we already ordered many ship from korea yet technology transfer was NOT offered, they are not reaally sincere in helping us.
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There's information about establishing a local construction system and a technology transfer package, but I've heard that there is no technology transfer at all in the Philippines. Is that true?
Transfer of technology dapat para magkaroon ng trabaho ang mga pinoy sa bansa
sana yong alpha 5000 ang mapili ng philippine navy
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The cheapest deal what the Philippines Government wants.
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@@TheMowstpoor Philippine, How could they modernize their Naval for just buying cheapest Naval weapons forever
Buy them both
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The main drawback both of them have just 16VLS,the Philippine Navy should go for at least 24VLS since the incoming corvettes have 16 anyways,gotta upgrade for more firepower,the DAMEN frigates that are bigger than either one of them can carry 24VLS,that's the Sigma 12516 Class frigate.
If SK ship will have 32 cell I'd go for it
We need more than that..
32 vls cells and space for another 32 for future upgrades
@@muttsurini9833 sure of course. But i'd take 32 instead of 16
Both
Order to both of them ph has 40 B dollar budget plus, soft loan term.
Go for with transfer tech
That woul be better for the PH. can i get a like and subscribe, thanks
Dude please don't flip the Philippine flag
Hoping our AFP/PN will have many new military equipment such as destroyers (12) frigates (36), corvettes (36), offshore/onshore patrol vessels (36), Coastal patrol boats (60), fast attack crafts or MPAC (260), fast missiles craft (36), multi-role fighter aircrafts (180), Boeing P-8 Poseidon (2), A10 attack planes (6), attack helicopters (60), anti-submarine helicopters (36) and submarines (4), missile air defense systems, Unmanned aerial/sea vehicles, and high advance military communication systems for first line of defense and protection of our country's EEZ/territory. God bless Philippines.
Iyan ang bilohin ng Philippine navy
Kung sa technology at radars electronic warfare alfa series is better compare hhi 4300 nang sk bonus pa ang heavily arm na ships
Navantia is more capable for the PN requirements, what a good choice. Can i get a like and subscribe, thanks
the Philippine flag is blue is up and red is down, don't flipp the Philippine flag
Assuming PN will purchase this 2 kind of warship 6 units Frigates and 6 units Corvettes para maiba naman puro kasi HHI made ang mga warships ng pinas.
navantia for me is more better then the hdf 4300 because of transfer of technology
Navatia naman sana may texh transfer sokor wala.
Aminadong mas mahal ang presyo ng navantia pero mas malakas ang fire power at mas advance ang system pati narin ung inooffer nilang submarines na mas fire power at mas malaki kesa sa scorpene submarines. Kung may badget sana magandang bumili sa navantia kahit 2 alpha 5000 at 2 submarines kaya naman sana kung babawasan ung ibang pinag lalaanan ng pondo ng bansa at walang congresman o senador ang mga makiki alam ng pondo.
Kahit ano dyn panalo Basta Hinde down grade Ng pinas dahil sa kapos na budget
If we have our government budget i wish they will buy both ship..2 for ocean and 2 for navantia..those both ship is more capable if they will combine in combat😅😅 plss respect my comment.
12 frigates from korea corvette12 destroyer12 spain 12 frigates corvette12destroyer12 submarine 12
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Thank you PBBEEM GREAT PRESIDENT EVER
32 cell ang labas Nyan 22 pareho s Corvette sabi 16cell nagging 12cell
Just offer and nothing else.
Mas magandang blita qy yung nag ka pirmahan qt d paasa.c Digong d nga nag babalita hangang s may dumating n lng bigla.d paasa.
Mas maganda yung barko ng navantia Kesa sa barko ng korea
Sir don't flipping the Philippine flap
You've got good eyes bro.
Philippine flag when red color was at upper side means the country was at war ....😮
Agree coz we're not even at war yet so respect ❤
Yeah thank's for reminding,already update
navantia
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Baliktad ung flag ntn😂😂😂
Kanino gagamitin yan, wala naman navy ang NPA? 😁😆😅😂🤣😅
Ph is dreaming