I have the 9PV and one of my friend has it as well. I have never had my camera stutter or crash. Also, Adobe Lightroom presets. (paid ones). Although the lack of OIS is disappointing. I understand why it has no OIS.
The interesting thing is, it doesn't do it all the time. Sometimes it works albeit slowly. The other half the time is just keeps getting stuck. And this happens also mainly when the battery is below 50%, and affects videos. I tried resetting the phone. Updating the firmware, clearing the cache, and it still happens. Out of curiosity, how often do you reboot your phone ?
once or twice a month since sometimes it seems that I can't make or receive calls unless I reboot the phone. Airplane mode doesn't help. Perhaps my phone's antenna is broken or something.
Very nice and thought-out review! I actually relate to a lot of the points you made in this video. I bought my Nokia 9 when it *just* launched in Scandinavia, and I was very satisfied with it to begin with. The image quality at the time was on a whole new level, and it's still in the top tier to be honest! I only had some hiccups and freezing when using the cameras below 20% charge, and the battery life wasn't great, but it was nothing a tiny powerbank couldn't fix. At this point, a few years later, I still use it as a daily driver, but my opinions has changed a lot... As the battery has been worn, the camera freezes frequently at any charge below 60%, and because of the worn battery, it can drop from 100% to 70% within minutes after processing images and backing them up to Google Drive. This basically forces me to carry a powerbank at all times when trying to reliably take pictures. Not long ago, Nokia also announced they'd delay the Android 11 update to Q2 of 2021, and is potentially the last in line to receive this update within all of their recent Android flagships. I'd hoped Nokia would be able to redeem themselves by pushing out fixes and optimizations within 2020, but it's like they've entirely given up on the Nokia 9. A solution to the camera's reliability problem *could* be a battery change, but many devices has a flaw where an attempt to change the battery could lead to the display cable snapping. I'm not willing to spend a large sum of money to revive a phone with this little potential. It's unfortunate I feel this way, because I'm a person who tries to keep my expensive gear to live as long as possible, but the Nokia 9 simply dosen't seem worth the effort at this point.
Thank you! The software really lets the Nokia 9 down massively. I would love to see a remake with much better software and hardware but sadly that won't happen.
Loved your review !!! The freeze is like a feature that bundle with this 9PV, frustrated but already get used to it. Lol. It's like hmd is splitting 1 large sensor into 5 small pieces, gives it underpowered processor & poor software. Hope they develop their proprietary processor like Sony's BIONZ or something to master the technology. Really love the photo that look so natural & did not rely on AI to process. By the way I think maybe 9PV is one flagship in recent few years did not promote their camera technology with AI process.
Haha yeah. I believe the Nokia 9 does have a custom chip codeveloped by light but it's clearly not good enough. But yes, I do appreciate the natural colors. It's pictures are very close to professional cameras as opposed to the oversaturated mess by competitors.
I have a theory and Im not saying I'm right either you might be able to use a game booster to maximize the performance of the camera app to prevent freezing.
I just got my nokia 9 pureview, its a nice phone , nice design but just like the other who got it. They have this complaint about finger print unlocking and picture processing that is taking too long. Still , as a nokia fan , I'm really happy to have one. One thing, can you tell me what app should I use to edit the pictures ? Is there a specific app for it?
Very fair criticisms Abdullah, but I've been using my Nokia 9 PV for over a year now and the speed (or lack of) when the phone takes a picture doesn't bother me. Maybe it's because I KNOW I'll be getting a great shot. What I have less patience with is how long it takes to stitch those 5 images together. I was hoping Nokia/HMD was going to improve on this technology as the pictures I capture are truly amazing, but it seems they are going to abandon this route. I would certainly have bought an updated version. No hesitation. The Nokia 9 Pureview makes me wait, but it's worth it.
I agree with you. The pictures always end up being amazing, and sadly we won't get to see a device like the Nokia 9 in the future. But its also clear to me that the concept has a lot of problems that need a lot of work to be fixed. On my Nokia 9, whenever the battery becomes lower than 50% the camera app gets stuck and makes using it very frustrating :(
I got it for a low price, and after watching this video I'm happy with my purchase. Contrary to the title, it was one of the most positive reviews of the phone I've seen.
I have had this phone since it's release and have been able to work around it's limitations to get the most from it's camera. There is a third option that can be utilized in addition to the HDR jpgs and RAW files that perfectly suits my needs. I tend to take photos of food and post them on my FB page and Google and found that the inherent HDR jpg process tends to make close ups of food look less than appetizing. Too much clarity and overall detail is not needed and can be a distraction. I experimented with third party apps and have had great success! I have found a sweet spot that has given me more flexibility to choose settings and to basically dummy up the over processing of the HDR jpgs in certain situations. The Open Camera App on Google Play was my answer. The info on shots taken with Open Camera say they are 8MP photos where as those taken with the Nokia program say 12MP. I don't exactly know which camera or how many cameras it utilizes to capture photos, it may only use one instead of all 5, but now I have a new choice in addition to HDR and RAW, it's my softened image sweet spot jpg. I hope this helps some of my Nokia Fan Boy brothers out there. The Nokia 9 Pureview camera system is now a flexible powerhouse of possibilities with no end in sight! Cheers!
@@AbdullaZaki This App is fast and dirty with no processing time due to the smaller file size. It gives you many tools you can't get in the OEM program.
@@daviddutchschultz2190 I've used it and it has very good manual controls. Just never tested the image quality against the standard camera app since I know for sure it's not using the 5 cameras together, just 1
Hello, first of all a wonderful review on the photographic part, really one of the best and certainly the most recent. I would like to ask you if it is worth moving from a Pixel 3a to this Nokia 9 Pureview, also if the automatic jpeg shots are still excellent and if they are at the level of the 3a (maybe you don't always need to take important shots). Thank you ;)
Thank you :) I would say it's not worth moving from the pixel 3a to the Nokia 9 unless you absolutely value the RAW editing and have a lot of patience. Otherwise for most people the pixel is a better phone. The Nokia 9 is notably faster in day to day tasks outside the camera though. In jpgs, the pixel takes better pictures 70% of the time. In anything except perfect conditions the pixel jpgs are better.
I love my Nokia 9, but to me I did not buy it to be a camera in any aspect, and honestly barely use the camera. In terms of software and performance it still holds up to this day as I am currently watching this video on it, and out of all of my phones since I bought this in 2019 I thought the Nokia was going to die first and this is the one that has survived the longest. The camera is basically unusable but in terms of just using it for any and all other Android tasks, it has been amazing as someone who often does fairly complex tasks uncommon to the normal Android user. I have left this phone on top of my car and then had it snow 3 1/2ft and found in the morning, it still holds up.
@@AbdullaZaki yeah but the recent status of hmd is really not good. Postponing the launches, 5.3 is still not available worldwide, 8.3 is still not released yet (except for juho sarvikas). We all know that the global pandemic situation is the main reason but how come other brands be little or not at all affected..... Hmd should step up their game and if they can't come to create a space in the market try alternative solutions like ad based revenue through mobile services for feature phones or non android one phones....
True review... using the phone for more than one year.. camera was really amazing as nowadays camera sw is really unresponsive so I don't able to click much photos I used to.... after android 10 update phone is restarting all the time if I open the camera app or try to multi task.. really disappointed with hmd global..
Mine use to freeze on the camera. The recent May update that came with a maintenance update seems to have fixed this. Have had no freezes since. Agree with your thoughts on the colour and exposure of it's photos. I always adjust the RAW images with lightroom for best results.
Unfortunately after about a week or so after the may update the camera went back to the same issues it had before.... The more you take pictures the worst it gets quickly. Yesterday even recording 4K HDR video would freeze the camera app.
Just those the main problem is software and lag doesnt mean cant capture Great photo or video and to make sure still wort it for 2022 daily use ???? brother
A faster processor would help, but not because it is faster actually. The new Snapdragons had some feature specifically for multiple camera smartphones, which upon hearing about just felt like it was made for this phone. I hope they come back to this, even the same sensors would be fine if they pair it with that processor for a reasonable enough price.
Should I go for pixel 3a or Nokia 9 (if we ignore the slow camera)? Can Pixel 3a produce better bokeh and on-par normal images when compared to Nokia 9?
I think hmd is still trying different fields in where the cameras might win...but we all know that for better quality pictures, we need bigger sensors...
@@djunkv7 exactly. I'm hoping the 9.3 will have some interesting camera innovations, but don't have high hopes because HMD just doesn't have a big research and development budget...
I've been using the Nokia 9 as my daily driver since it was released I might be experiencing the same issues. I also would have liked the phone to be fully water and dust proof! I also would have liked a memory card slot! One thing though OIS would be a nightmare on such a setup because all the cameras would have to be identically and the slightest alteration would render the setup useless! Thanks for the video 🙂
You're welcome! Yes, in order to add OIS the whole setup will need to be stabilized on the same rig. The phone is already water and dust proof by the way. Good proof of concept, but we won't see the same setup again. Let's see how they manage to create something interesting with the upcoming 9.3
@@AbdullaZaki every sensor stabilized is a nightmare because they're all taking the exact identical picture and all of them have to be stiched together.. one of the mini motors breaks, eyeyayei! 😬 What happened to a true sequel to the 808 with one big bad sensor!? Imagine that, with two sensors RGB and B/W with a large depth sensor 🤤🤤🤤 I think your mixed up with the water resistant! If water hats involved the speaker gets blocked for a while and the mic as well.
At $354 as secondary phone ??? How's the deal ...is it worth I already have rog phone 2 I just want a budget android phone...is it better than budget phone as secondary use
Hey buddy, thanks a lot for this video. So you say not to get this phone for camera ? Is it ?? I checked with multiple owners of this phone who told that the camera app works very smooth now after May 2020 update, though the processing time is still slow. A bit confused now
I have the may update and it's still the same. If you buy this phone, you have to be super patient with it. But it's frustrating and unacceptable to buy a flagship then have to fight with the camera software :( the footage of the camera getting stuck is after the may update....
@@AbdullaZaki Sure thing, noted and thanks again for your advices. I am somehow attracted towards this phone like I did for my Lumia 1020 , as for the amazing efforts put in for camera department
At the announcement they said, this phone is perfect for photographers who can take stunning photos AND EDIT THEM. It means you have to edit the photos after taking the shots. But sadly, normal people just want a device does everything for you. So sad... Hope the 9.3 PureView can be even better.
and it delivers on that promise, but they also need to make it accessible for regular consumers. I hope the 9.3 wont have the same camera software issues. It shouldn't.
@@AbdullaZaki Thanks. I mean they've dropped the proper shooting mode for bokeh from camera UI. Not that is really needed anyway. Just curious. www.dpreview.com/news/6628310816/nokia-9-pureview-update-brings-live-bokeh-and-image-processing-boost
Sony,Nokia,HTC....Iam sorry I don't trust any other company other than these...but it's sad that they don't release cheap phones at alll!! ...I prefer Sony's 1gb phone over Chinese 3gb phones .....I say this causr I have seen the quality and ram management which is amazing..... Wish they release cheap phones too.... people still love these brands...
I have to disagree. Do buy it because it's a unique piece of tech that'll never be reproduced again. Light are going out of the SmartPhone market so the 9.2 or 3 will not be the same. Just bought one and this will proudly sit in my unique smartphone collection next to the 808, 1020, 950, yotaphone 2 and Xperia play.
For those of us who love collecting phones, it makes sense. For most people, they will be more frustrated than delighted. I bought it personally for its unique character.
@@AbdullaZaki Definitely. I missed out on the chance to buy a Panasonic Lumix cm1 - another unique phone with a full sized sensor. Probably will never find one in the wild
I think this camera system needed much more time for development and optimization. Feels HMD rushed with the Nokia 9, and they even cannot deliver proper software optimization with the Android One.
I agree completely. But they were running out of time especially since it was using an older processor. I'm glad they released it but they should have done better behind the scenes.
Nice review brother.... One question I read somewhere in raw image nokia 9 capture almost zero noise even in light is it true bro...can u send me auto low light raw image of Nokia 9?
The auto jpegs at night on the Nokia 9 are really terrible. You have to use manual mode. Full of noise, so much lost details, weird green tint. That is of course in very dark conditions. If there is a bit of light, the pictures turn out nicely.
@@AbdullaZaki bro..i am asking in raw image..i read in raw of night there is zero noise..hmd use some kind of different proccesing in raw night images..
Perhaps part of the problem is that Samsung and Apple can pour money into R&D and HMD cannot afford to spend enough money to optimise their phones. I was nearly going to buy a Nokia 7.2 until I went to the Nokia forums & read all the comments on that phone. Overall things are not looking good for HMD...
I agree. Although people on forums are only there to complain haha. People who are happy would usually use their phones in peace. Thats why I don't usually take everything said online as 100%. Sell enough phones and there are bound to be issues here and there.
@@AbdullaZaki I sent mine for warranty because it has this camera locking bug below 50% it's been almost 3 weeks. I wait for the result. I just don't expect them to open the phone and make it unusable, and then give me a new lol
The only solution for this problem is to get a new one... Its an issue with the construction of the camera setup and how much power it uses. I don't know if the newer version of the 9 fixed this
Will I really like it the pictures can go head to head with the note 20 the Issues I have with it is the battery life and it takes time to process the pictures
Poor optimization in the stock android UI like most Nokia phones the stock UI is lagging due to Nokia not optimizing the UI you would think they would fix this problem by now but unfortunately not this brand like their phones is a epic fail it's a shame poor Nokia RIP
@@AbdullaZaki it's unfortunate I had a few Nokia phone's recently but their performance is not up to speed compared to other brands with the same processor it should be fast UI because it's stock android but lagging issues persist even with 6gig ram disappointed with this slow performance
@@AbdullaZaki I do not know relatively recently came an update that improved everything and storage configuration when activating the storage manager becomes more fluid
@@alberthmoreira91 Abdulla, have you updated yours? Still got those bugs?) Damn im thinking whether i should buy it or not. I used to have nokia 1020 but it was really slow and buggy, slow autofocus, and software overall. Then i switched to nokia 808 and loved it so much! Still use it as daylight camera and voice recorder. Also taking great bw “street” pictures using flash when im in club or some other dark place lol)) But i really wanna make fast spontaneous photos of random people on streets also some pics in low light (without the flash). So im looking for some good camera with fast autofocus and strong sensor for low light photo or fast moving objects...
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You got it perfectly right. Despite of so many wrongs, still it surprises. It has many things wrong but many things right.
There's probably some good reasons why Samsung and Apple have not done the same..
I have the 9PV and one of my friend has it as well. I have never had my camera stutter or crash. Also, Adobe Lightroom presets. (paid ones). Although the lack of OIS is disappointing. I understand why it has no OIS.
The interesting thing is, it doesn't do it all the time. Sometimes it works albeit slowly. The other half the time is just keeps getting stuck. And this happens also mainly when the battery is below 50%, and affects videos. I tried resetting the phone. Updating the firmware, clearing the cache, and it still happens.
Out of curiosity, how often do you reboot your phone ?
once or twice a month since sometimes it seems that I can't make or receive calls unless I reboot the phone. Airplane mode doesn't help. Perhaps my phone's antenna is broken or something.
Very strange bug. Would you call yourself a shutterbug when it comes using the camera frequency?
@@AbdullaZaki Sometimes yes, depends on the landscape but I think I can say that about myself
Very nice and thought-out review! I actually relate to a lot of the points you made in this video.
I bought my Nokia 9 when it *just* launched in Scandinavia, and I was very satisfied with it to begin with. The image quality at the time was on a whole new level, and it's still in the top tier to be honest! I only had some hiccups and freezing when using the cameras below 20% charge, and the battery life wasn't great, but it was nothing a tiny powerbank couldn't fix.
At this point, a few years later, I still use it as a daily driver, but my opinions has changed a lot... As the battery has been worn, the camera freezes frequently at any charge below 60%, and because of the worn battery, it can drop from 100% to 70% within minutes after processing images and backing them up to Google Drive. This basically forces me to carry a powerbank at all times when trying to reliably take pictures.
Not long ago, Nokia also announced they'd delay the Android 11 update to Q2 of 2021, and is potentially the last in line to receive this update within all of their recent Android flagships. I'd hoped Nokia would be able to redeem themselves by pushing out fixes and optimizations within 2020, but it's like they've entirely given up on the Nokia 9.
A solution to the camera's reliability problem *could* be a battery change, but many devices has a flaw where an attempt to change the battery could lead to the display cable snapping. I'm not willing to spend a large sum of money to revive a phone with this little potential. It's unfortunate I feel this way, because I'm a person who tries to keep my expensive gear to live as long as possible, but the Nokia 9 simply dosen't seem worth the effort at this point.
Thank you! The software really lets the Nokia 9 down massively. I would love to see a remake with much better software and hardware but sadly that won't happen.
This is exactly my experience, word by word
Loved your review !!!
The freeze is like a feature that bundle with this 9PV, frustrated but already get used to it. Lol.
It's like hmd is splitting 1 large sensor into 5 small pieces, gives it underpowered processor & poor software. Hope they develop their proprietary processor like Sony's BIONZ or something to master the technology. Really love the photo that look so natural & did not rely on AI to process.
By the way I think maybe 9PV is one flagship in recent few years did not promote their camera technology with AI process.
Haha yeah.
I believe the Nokia 9 does have a custom chip codeveloped by light but it's clearly not good enough.
But yes, I do appreciate the natural colors. It's pictures are very close to professional cameras as opposed to the oversaturated mess by competitors.
I have a theory and Im not saying I'm right either you might be able to use a game booster to maximize the performance of the camera app to prevent freezing.
Such a shame that HMD Global couldn't handle such great technology.. This model would be truly great flagship.
Great camera review, I hope you can test the new Nokia 8.3. best regards.
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Thanks for subscribing. The moment the Nokia 8.3 comes out I'm definitely doing plenty of videos for it :)
I just got my nokia 9 pureview, its a nice phone , nice design but just like the other who got it. They have this complaint about finger print unlocking and picture processing that is taking too long. Still , as a nokia fan , I'm really happy to have one. One thing, can you tell me what app should I use to edit the pictures ? Is there a specific app for it?
Very fair criticisms Abdullah, but I've been using my Nokia 9 PV for over a year now and the speed (or lack of) when the phone takes a picture doesn't bother me. Maybe it's because I KNOW I'll be getting a great shot. What I have less patience with is how long it takes to stitch those 5 images together. I was hoping Nokia/HMD was going to improve on this technology as the pictures I capture are truly amazing, but it seems they are going to abandon this route. I would certainly have bought an updated version. No hesitation. The Nokia 9 Pureview makes me wait, but it's worth it.
I agree with you. The pictures always end up being amazing, and sadly we won't get to see a device like the Nokia 9 in the future. But its also clear to me that the concept has a lot of problems that need a lot of work to be fixed. On my Nokia 9, whenever the battery becomes lower than 50% the camera app gets stuck and makes using it very frustrating :(
I got it for a low price, and after watching this video I'm happy with my purchase. Contrary to the title, it was one of the most positive reviews of the phone I've seen.
I hope it serves you well :)
@@AbdullaZaki I think I'd have been pretty disappointed if I had paid the flagship price for it! The battery is the big let-down.
I have had this phone since it's release and have been able to work around it's limitations to get the most from it's camera. There is a third option that can be utilized in addition to the HDR jpgs and RAW files that perfectly suits my needs. I tend to take photos of food and post them on my FB page and Google and found that the inherent HDR jpg process tends to make close ups of food look less than appetizing. Too much clarity and overall detail is not needed and can be a distraction. I experimented with third party apps and have had great success! I have found a sweet spot that has given me more flexibility to choose settings and to basically dummy up the over processing of the HDR jpgs in certain situations.
The Open Camera App on Google Play was my answer. The info on shots taken with Open Camera say they are 8MP photos where as those taken with the Nokia program say 12MP.
I don't exactly know which camera or how many cameras it utilizes to capture photos, it may only use one instead of all 5, but now I have a new choice in addition to HDR and RAW, it's my softened image sweet spot jpg. I hope this helps some of my Nokia Fan Boy brothers out there.
The Nokia 9 Pureview camera system is now a flexible powerhouse of possibilities with no end in sight!
Cheers!
Very cool tip :) you can do the same if you use Snapseed on your raw images but that takes more time
@@AbdullaZaki This App is fast and dirty with no processing time due to the smaller file size. It gives you many tools you can't get in the OEM program.
@@daviddutchschultz2190 I've used it and it has very good manual controls. Just never tested the image quality against the standard camera app since I know for sure it's not using the 5 cameras together, just 1
@@AbdullaZaki that's the beauty of it
More options is always better, how cool would it be to choose which cameras you wanted to fire off?
Thank you Abdulla Zaki for this unique phone..it's camera is underated..👍👍👍
You're welcome
Thank you for such detailed information on that phone ! Would follow up on more videos👀
Hello, first of all a wonderful review on the photographic part, really one of the best and certainly the most recent. I would like to ask you if it is worth moving from a Pixel 3a to this Nokia 9 Pureview, also if the automatic jpeg shots are still excellent and if they are at the level of the 3a (maybe you don't always need to take important shots). Thank you ;)
Thank you :) I would say it's not worth moving from the pixel 3a to the Nokia 9 unless you absolutely value the RAW editing and have a lot of patience. Otherwise for most people the pixel is a better phone. The Nokia 9 is notably faster in day to day tasks outside the camera though.
In jpgs, the pixel takes better pictures 70% of the time. In anything except perfect conditions the pixel jpgs are better.
@@AbdullaZaki Thank you so much ;)
I love my Nokia 9, but to me I did not buy it to be a camera in any aspect, and honestly barely use the camera. In terms of software and performance it still holds up to this day as I am currently watching this video on it, and out of all of my phones since I bought this in 2019 I thought the Nokia was going to die first and this is the one that has survived the longest. The camera is basically unusable but in terms of just using it for any and all other Android tasks, it has been amazing as someone who often does fairly complex tasks uncommon to the normal Android user. I have left this phone on top of my car and then had it snow 3 1/2ft and found in the morning, it still holds up.
I'm pleased with the camera concept but the software really lacks... And lack of OIS is really a drop.... Hoping hmd will do better with the 9.3
Me too. Hopefully the 9.3 will also be innovative in some way.
@@AbdullaZaki yeah but the recent status of hmd is really not good. Postponing the launches, 5.3 is still not available worldwide, 8.3 is still not released yet (except for juho sarvikas).
We all know that the global pandemic situation is the main reason but how come other brands be little or not at all affected.....
Hmd should step up their game and if they can't come to create a space in the market try alternative solutions like ad based revenue through mobile services for feature phones or non android one phones....
True review... using the phone for more than one year.. camera was really amazing as nowadays camera sw is really unresponsive so I don't able to click much photos I used to.... after android 10 update phone is restarting all the time if I open the camera app or try to multi task.. really disappointed with hmd global..
Mine use to freeze on the camera. The recent May update that came with a maintenance update seems to have fixed this. Have had no freezes since. Agree with your thoughts on the colour and exposure of it's photos. I always adjust the RAW images with lightroom for best results.
Unfortunately after about a week or so after the may update the camera went back to the same issues it had before.... The more you take pictures the worst it gets quickly. Yesterday even recording 4K HDR video would freeze the camera app.
@@AbdullaZaki I'll let you know if mine does start freezing again.
Please do, thank you :)
Just those the main problem is software and lag doesnt mean cant capture Great photo or video and to make sure still wort it for 2022 daily use ???? brother
A faster processor would help, but not because it is faster actually. The new Snapdragons had some feature specifically for multiple camera smartphones, which upon hearing about just felt like it was made for this phone. I hope they come back to this, even the same sensors would be fine if they pair it with that processor for a reasonable enough price.
Should I go for pixel 3a or Nokia 9 (if we ignore the slow camera)? Can Pixel 3a produce better bokeh and on-par normal images when compared to Nokia 9?
The pixel 3a is much easier to get a good picture out of, so for most people it would be better. Bokeh on the Nokia 9 is better.
I think hmd is still trying different fields in where the cameras might win...but we all know that for better quality pictures, we need bigger sensors...
the Nokia 9 is an interesting concept that could have worked if it was implemented better. But yes, they needed more horsepower!
Same that happened with the 1020, not enough processing power for those concept. Its sad to see the Nokia 9 end up with no proper followup.
@@djunkv7 exactly. I'm hoping the 9.3 will have some interesting camera innovations, but don't have high hopes because HMD just doesn't have a big research and development budget...
I've been using the Nokia 9 as my daily driver since it was released I might be experiencing the same issues. I also would have liked the phone to be fully water and dust proof! I also would have liked a memory card slot!
One thing though OIS would be a nightmare on such a setup because all the cameras would have to be identically and the slightest alteration would render the setup useless!
Thanks for the video 🙂
You're welcome! Yes, in order to add OIS the whole setup will need to be stabilized on the same rig. The phone is already water and dust proof by the way.
Good proof of concept, but we won't see the same setup again. Let's see how they manage to create something interesting with the upcoming 9.3
@@AbdullaZaki every sensor stabilized is a nightmare because they're all taking the exact identical picture and all of them have to be stiched together.. one of the mini motors breaks, eyeyayei! 😬
What happened to a true sequel to the 808 with one big bad sensor!? Imagine that, with two sensors RGB and B/W with a large depth sensor 🤤🤤🤤
I think your mixed up with the water resistant! If water hats involved the speaker gets blocked for a while and the mic as well.
Nice review bro. Have you tried GCam for this phone I wonder what will be the results with Nokia hardware and Googles camera software.
Thanks! I have, and it doesn't improve things because it only uses one sensors which doesn't have OIS and is quite small compared to most flagships.
@@AbdullaZaki Hope this year's flagship will help make a comeback for Nokia.
Me too :)
At $354 as secondary phone ??? How's the deal ...is it worth I already have rog phone 2 I just want a budget android phone...is it better than budget phone as secondary use
In that case its decent. Its fast, has a nice display, and the battery is acceptable.
Hey buddy, thanks a lot for this video. So you say not to get this phone for camera ? Is it ??
I checked with multiple owners of this phone who told that the camera app works very smooth now after May 2020 update, though the processing time is still slow. A bit confused now
I have the may update and it's still the same. If you buy this phone, you have to be super patient with it. But it's frustrating and unacceptable to buy a flagship then have to fight with the camera software :( the footage of the camera getting stuck is after the may update....
@@AbdullaZaki Sure thing, noted and thanks again for your advices. I am somehow attracted towards this phone like I did for my Lumia 1020 , as for the amazing efforts put in for camera department
You are weldome. I don't blame you. If you know what to expect you might like it. The images are amazing as you can see from the samples in the video
Salute on this great video. Loved it
Glad you enjoyed it :)
At the announcement they said, this phone is perfect for photographers who can take stunning photos AND EDIT THEM. It means you have to edit the photos after taking the shots. But sadly, normal people just want a device does everything for you. So sad... Hope the 9.3 PureView can be even better.
and it delivers on that promise, but they also need to make it accessible for regular consumers. I hope the 9.3 wont have the same camera software issues. It shouldn't.
I am waiting for nokia 9.3 pureview (successor of nokia 9 pureview)
#Beastiscoming
Me too, lets see!
Thank you! Very interesting. I see there's no longer live bokeh mode right?
No problem :) What do you mean by live bokeh? You can still change how much bokeh effect is applied to images after the image is taken
@@AbdullaZaki Thanks. I mean they've dropped the proper shooting mode for bokeh from camera UI. Not that is really needed anyway. Just curious. www.dpreview.com/news/6628310816/nokia-9-pureview-update-brings-live-bokeh-and-image-processing-boost
IlovedNokia ever since 😘♥️❤️
I bought it new, for 230€/260$. Does it worth that money or try to sell it to buy a middlerange Xiaomi phone?
for the money its an excellent phone.
Just ordered this (sep, 2020). I don't mind the fingerprint sensor, has any camera app issue been fixed with updates?
The issues still exist on my unit, but some people are saying late models have less camera issues. Good luck!
Arun stephen r u indian???
@@shlokapoojary5069 yes, I am.
Sony,Nokia,HTC....Iam sorry I don't trust any other company other than these...but it's sad that they don't release cheap phones at alll!! ...I prefer Sony's 1gb phone over Chinese 3gb phones .....I say this causr I have seen the quality and ram management which is amazing.....
Wish they release cheap phones too.... people still love these brands...
Thanks very much for this. I'm still using my PV 808. I decided to pass on the 9 and am waiting to see the 9.3.
You are welcome. Im also looking forward to the 9.3. Hopefully it lives up to the expectations
I have to disagree. Do buy it because it's a unique piece of tech that'll never be reproduced again. Light are going out of the SmartPhone market so the 9.2 or 3 will not be the same. Just bought one and this will proudly sit in my unique smartphone collection next to the 808, 1020, 950, yotaphone 2 and Xperia play.
For those of us who love collecting phones, it makes sense. For most people, they will be more frustrated than delighted. I bought it personally for its unique character.
@@AbdullaZaki Definitely. I missed out on the chance to buy a Panasonic Lumix cm1 - another unique phone with a full sized sensor. Probably will never find one in the wild
Waste of money.
@@vicentegeonix well I just received mine yesterday. Appears brand new. For 240 pounds. In my eyes definitely not a complete waste!
There is a 9.3 coming maybe! I really look forward to that
So do I. Lets see what they come up with
I think this camera system needed much more time for development and optimization. Feels HMD rushed with the Nokia 9, and they even cannot deliver proper software optimization with the Android One.
I agree completely. But they were running out of time especially since it was using an older processor. I'm glad they released it but they should have done better behind the scenes.
Nice review brother....
One question I read somewhere in raw image nokia 9 capture almost zero noise even in light is it true bro...can u send me auto low light raw image of Nokia 9?
The auto jpegs at night on the Nokia 9 are really terrible. You have to use manual mode. Full of noise, so much lost details, weird green tint. That is of course in very dark conditions. If there is a bit of light, the pictures turn out nicely.
@@AbdullaZaki bro..i am asking in raw image..i read in raw of night there is zero noise..hmd use some kind of different proccesing in raw night images..
Not true, even the RAW images in auto mode aren't good.
Could you suggest me a stable gcam for Nokia 6.1 Plus
If you are running on Android 10, I would suggest googling " best gcam for nokia android 10". I would go for version 7.2 or 7.3 on cyanogenmod
Just remember, the 9PV was a limited run by Nokia. It's like the E60 M5 of camera phones.
Perhaps part of the problem is that Samsung and Apple can pour money into R&D and HMD cannot afford to spend enough money to optimise their phones. I was nearly going to buy a Nokia 7.2 until I went to the Nokia forums & read all the comments on that phone. Overall things are not looking good for HMD...
I agree. Although people on forums are only there to complain haha. People who are happy would usually use their phones in peace. Thats why I don't usually take everything said online as 100%. Sell enough phones and there are bound to be issues here and there.
I honestly want to buy one 😅
I don't blame you. It will become a collectors item, probably :)
yeah, and I want to test it's camera's capabilities
Or maybe buy a new or used DSLR camera that will work every time, as would an iPhone SE..
So is not worth it then?
It's a collectors phone with many limitations and frustrations. If you understand those then you'll be okay
How about a review of Nokia 7+ sir?..
Thanks..✌️
I plan on reviewing all new Nokia devices moving forward :) Most of my current reviews are of phones I own.
I hope you'll make a latest video of this phone 🙃
I hope the bug is fixed right now
The bugs will never be fixed on this phone :(
@@AbdullaZaki why not?
The camera system is flawed. The rest of the phone is fine.
@@AbdullaZaki I sent mine for warranty because it has this camera locking bug below 50%
it's been almost 3 weeks. I wait for the result.
I just don't expect them to open the phone and make it unusable, and then give me a new lol
The only solution for this problem is to get a new one... Its an issue with the construction of the camera setup and how much power it uses. I don't know if the newer version of the 9 fixed this
Will I really like it the pictures can go head to head with the note 20 the Issues I have with it is the battery life and it takes time to process the pictures
Best phone for pictures even it's not the best overall phone.
arghh.. what should I say, everything was superb until I need to replace the battery....so sad that I may have to leave Nokia product line
Nokia = Freeze
Since Symbian. They never change. LMAO
Haha, that's harsh. I've had plenty of symbian phones that didn't freeze at all
@@AbdullaZaki Lucky you. My only good Symbian is QD 🤣
Nokia very good product
Poor optimization in the stock android UI like most Nokia phones the stock UI is lagging due to Nokia not optimizing the UI you would think they would fix this problem by now but unfortunately not this brand like their phones is a epic fail it's a shame poor Nokia RIP
To be fair, they tend to fix optimization issues after launch. As a phone, its quite solid, but the camera is unreliable.
@@AbdullaZaki it's unfortunate I had a few Nokia phone's recently but their performance is not up to speed compared to other brands with the same processor it should be fast UI because it's stock android but lagging issues persist even with 6gig ram disappointed with this slow performance
Love ❤️ Nokia
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i have this 🌚
and do you agree with my assessment?
@@AbdullaZaki I do not know relatively recently came an update that improved everything and storage configuration when activating the storage manager becomes more fluid
@@alberthmoreira91 Abdulla, have you updated yours? Still got those bugs?) Damn im thinking whether i should buy it or not.
I used to have nokia 1020 but it was really slow and buggy, slow autofocus, and software overall. Then i switched to nokia 808 and loved it so much! Still use it as daylight camera and voice recorder. Also taking great bw “street” pictures using flash when im in club or some other dark place lol)) But i really wanna make fast spontaneous photos of random people on streets also some pics in low light (without the flash). So im looking for some good camera with fast autofocus and strong sensor for low light photo or fast moving objects...
@@yurypisar347 then better buy the Nokia 8.3 has a better camera than the Nokia 9 or the Huawei p30 pro or a Xiaomi mi 10 those are good
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