SR-71 Intercept Vid 1 Of 3: th-cam.com/video/87Xu9zen_P0/w-d-xo.html SR-71 Intercept Vid 2 Of 3: th-cam.com/video/BNJaMngvmcE/w-d-xo.html SR-71 Intercept Vid 3 Of 3: th-cam.com/video/tz_YnP7xFtQ/w-d-xo.html
....Also please somebody make a "Zero-length launch" rocket booster for the F-104 Starfighter mod, so that the Starfighter can take off instantly vertically and get to altitude faster! (Some West German Starfighters had those:)
IIRC, this scenario, or at least fairly close did play out in the Middle East in the 70's, in which stripped down MiG-25 reconnaissance versions were doing overflights of American allies in the region. F-4's were scrambled to try and intercept these spyplanes, but to no avail, the MiG's were too fast and the F-4 could not reach a viable intercept. This helped lead to the active deployment of the F-15 (which was developed to counter the MiG-25's fictitious capabilities, such as it supposedly being a very agile fighter plane) in the area. These F-15 reinforcements could make that climb and get missiles on target. This is what earned the F-15 the reputation as a "Foxbat killer." This is me remembering old aviation articles I read somewhere near 10 years ago. If I mixed up a detail or forgot something, I'm sorry.
Irony is the Foxbat with Acrid missiles very nearly downed an F15 in Iraq, the medium range IR R-40TD missile homed and hit but the damage wasnt enough to bring down the f15, it limped back to a friendly airfield on 1 engine. but took extensive damage. That is also why the F35's limited missile payload is a big problem when large, split engine//2 engine designs are inherently difficult to bring down, even when hit by a missile with a fairly large warhead because the R40 has "up to" 100kg payload, the AMRAAM only has ~18.2kg , which gives some idea of just what that F15 survived.
I can't help but notice that as you reach your closest intercept point with the aircraft, your bank to resume track is always pointing your radar away from the target. This is also exactly when you're trying to get a lock. There's no point in turning right - after that's he's already past you, and the radar needs to look at a target that would actually be DOWNWARD in your right-banked turn, while you actually have the radar set to scan high. I'd just do a straight intercept and lock him up as he passes over the nose (maybe a SLIGHT turn to prolong the lock-up time available) but I would think that might help in a case where you have no visual reference.
F104 Climb and cruise performance were outstanding; occasionally a "slow" light would illuminate on the instrument panel at around Mach 2 to indicate that the engine compressor was nearing its limiting temperature and the pilot needed to throttle back
And this is why Genie/Super Falcon were developed and AIM-47 nearly had a W42 in it. The F-108 was cancelled, F-12 never got out of the Ys, and the closest thing to giving enough performance for the task, possibly, would be a modified B-58 Hustler on high altitude patrol... AN/ASG-18 from the 108 program ended up in them anyways. Sticking hard enough to the 80's to not allow AIM-120?
So are you guys just doing one trial and deducing from that one trial that it isnt possible? If so I would genuinely want you to practice and try to optimize your closure and see how well you can realistically intercept as if you were trained for it.
Well these are made for entertainment first, this video is already just under 40 minutes in length after editing. I'm sure they don't want to invest their lives into this lol
If a 71 was coming down the coast ground radar would have tracked the entire time. I would like to see you take off with full fuel well ahead of the 71 and see how that works.
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Those intercepts were at or below 65,000 feet, and concorde was mach 2 capable, u2 is waay subsonic. Totally different kettle of fish to a mach 3.3 85k feet intercept
@@thephantom2man You may want to watch this video by Mark Felton a good source of information. Apparently a lightning achieved an altitude of 88000 feet when intercepting a U2 which it passed and continued climbing. It as also apparently the only aircraft that managed to catch a BA concorde during an excercise including many of the types mentioned. Yes it is slower than th SR but potentially more capable than the other aircraft given a go. Surely worth a try ??
@@woolyimage ive watched it and am well aware of xr749, but xr749 was an f.3 with the smaller ventral tank, the avon 301R's, and the adens deleted, and was literally the fastest of all lightnings. Thing is, when it got up there and lost speed, it compresser stalled and flamed out (lightnings were known to above 50,000 feet) which wouldnt of helped, anf the red tops and firestreaks would no chance of been able to shoot down a blackbird, both being rear aspect only missiles, and both had quite short ranges, and a max speed of around mach 2.5.. so could a lightning of got up there? Yes, broadly speaking in a very specific set of circumstances, for a very short window.. but could a lightning of actually intercepted, got a lock and successfully fired and hit the blackbird? No chance
Try one with air patrol intercepting it. Say you already had f15s up on patrol and radar picked up the blackbird. Can you find it in time and shoot it down with the slower missiles?
f-16 is the only one that... could possible have a chance of doing better at this than the mig-31 - which in turn just barely almsot made it f-15 too I kindof overlooked that was even in here at first but none of the older ones
the rocket motor attempt you were referring to got to 120+. the one I made reference to was not rocket assisted thats why I referenced it and not the 120+ record. Cheers
At those altitudes, how can the missiles track and turn, they most likely would not have the ability to steer do to the thin air and small flight surfaces.
you can get him with the F-15 and Aim120c just shot a little in front of him so wehn he crosses and aim120 gose pitbul it will make the kill . aim9 stuf was nonsens
The F104 at around I think it’s 60 thousand feet it’s engine would cut out because the air is to thin for the F104 engine that’s why when Chuck Yeager F104 flight and took it to 100 thousand feet it had a solid rocket booster in the tail to train astronauts in what would be zero gravity for a couple of seconds before coming back down but the engine would cut out at around 60 thousand then you would shut the power off and start the rocket booster there’s a documentary on Chuck Yeager about it I remember watching it and it also briefly shown in the movie the right stuff I hope this helps cap also when is the new F104 mod available for download
In the F104 I noticed the ‘Slow’ warning light was illuminated during your climb. …..”Climb and cruise performance were outstanding; occasionally a "slow" light would illuminate on the instrument panel at around Mach 2 to indicate that the engine compressor was nearing its limiting temperature and the pilot needed to throttle back”
With no external loads or just Aim-9s the F-104's top speed was limited by those factors. Also, the fixed shock cones were optimized for speeds around M1.6+. For one high altitude / high speed attempt the pilot got some waivers (compressor inlet temperature, aluminum hull temperature) plus some airframe modifications. E.g. modified shock cones for higher speeds. Unofficial speed record: around Mach 2.5.
@@slowhornet4802 technically the F104 limits were induced by compressor temperature as the air induced so much drag that the temperature was going above the safe limits: alloy technology was not upt to the task yet, but you really can appreciate how amazing the plane was an an interceptor. Larger and heavier planes struggle to get to speed due to aerodynamic drag, but not the 104
@Zumzifero Yes, exactly. And it had a fixed cone to generate the oblique shock waves. No complicated ramp systems or movable cone. I read initial F-104s (A-C models) required 10-15 hours maintenance per flight hour, and this did not change much when the aircraft got older. G model was more complex and required more hours.
It didn't matter the engine was modeled to cut out at altitude. I talked to the mod maker and sent them some references of altitude and performance from the past. they will look into it and possibly tweak the model in the future.
From a weaponeering standpoint you have a bit of an issue. Even being at +Mach you’re still ~30k feet below the target, and that does not account for lateral travel. The burn rate in something you can launch from anything available in DCS will not support a 5 mile climb and chase of something that’s moving that fast. This moves beyond the realm of Super Sonic.
Any heat seeking missile that can do Mach 4+ would be able to catch the Blackbird. The hard part would be getting a lock when it's already doing Mach 3.2.
Why are you doing a T intercept. By the time you get a lock with these plane’s radars the sr 71 is in front of you and going away at twice the speed of the missiles and you can’t chase an sr 71. If you launch the missiles before the merge they don’t have to chase the plane.
I recall an F 106 burning up an engine, but did reach a U-2 as directed in a War Game. I would think a Mig 25 could do it if everything went perfect. Of course, some Egytain pilot burnt up a Mig 25 engine running at Mach 3 + getting away from Israil jets coming up for him. He might not have the fuel to travel very far from base and do the climb.
CAP Starfighter NOOB extraordinaire; Begin your high Mach run at 36,000ft. At Mach 2 your inlet temperature will be 100C. The red SLOW light will be flashing. Inlet temps limit is 121C. You have 5 minutes when the SLOW light is on. Climb at Mach 2, always mindful of the inlet temps limits. Fuel consumption at 36,000ft and Mach 2 is a mere 350 lbs per minute. Why do you want to climb at Mach 2? Let the following comparison have Pickles want to "cat" the HOTAS: F-16 climb rate at Mach 2; 1,500 feet per minute F-104 climb rate at Mach 2; 25,000 feet per minute! Pickles is holding up the calculator showing the the F-104's climb rate is 17 TIMES BETTER than the Viper at that speed and altitude. Need help picking your jaw up off the floor? The J79 -19 is a turbojet and is just beginning to show us its efficiency envelope. At speed and altitude it is making 25,000 lbs thrust, up from the static number of 18,900-ish. The turbofan is wheezing right where the turbojet is clearing its vocals. So know you now how and why the F-104 cruised at 73,000 feet at Mach 2 with only 3/4 AB sipping 100 lbs of fuel a minute. Knighton leaves the room, Pickles applauses, and CAP Starfighter NOOB re-runs the mission every day until 2026 to "work the numbers" and say, "English Electric Lightning who?"
When using the star fighter, maintain you max altitude with engines, intercept and align with the track ahead of the sr71 and let it overtake you. As it approaches, you at max speed, nose up, close the altitude gap on kinetic energy , forget about the engines, lock, fire, fall back to earth, restart the engine around 40k, go home and have a cuddle.
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again We're making human sacrifices to take down this SR - the dictator isn't ready to show the world his immaculate new in ground pool just yet
What about the NF-104A; an F-104 with both an air breathing J79 and a Rocketdyne AR2-3 High test peroxide rocket engine putting out 6,000lbf of thrust. Also, this is the US, DAMNIT. If we strapped .50s to Piper Cubs during WWII, you can bet your rear end we'd strap missiles onto the Space Shuttle if needed.
what the simulation shows is exactly what happened in reality: missiles fired in anger but the SR-71 just laughs at it while at 25km+ altitude and going faster than a speeding bullet...
Angles are off.... The F-14 should have been able to do this... Between the power of the radar and the speed of the missiles it should have been a relative piece of cake.
F106 was one of the jets that would chase and cruise to 70k ft according to a lot of reports. I know it was a photo plane for the sr at altitude because the six had a light enough wing loading to do so
весело, но неправильная постановка задачи и исполнение :) перехватывать надо в лоб на крайний случай близко к 90 градусам, но никак не вдогон :) В таком случае можно и на миг21 перехватить его :)
With the 104 you need to have more speed before climbing. It's easy to maintain speed in a climb in that plane but only if you have speed. The slower you go the more it lacks in performance overall. Think of it as a mini sr 71. If you did that climb from 45k after getting to over 700+ knots, ideally closer to 1000, you'd be up at 60-65k and well over mach
Simba has a much better tactic when it comes to climbing. F 16 is perfect example. You are slightly ahead but he has more height and speed and is on par with intercept angle.
Is there any way to turn down the sonic boom in exterior? As fun as it is, we do so many exterior flybys in these videos that is quite annoying to hear a billion booms. Otherwise, I'll just go STFU in the corner lol
Nothing wrong with them, but everything is wrong with the intercept. SR-71 were intercepted head on, "detected" before the take off because tankers started to take off before them. What's more, L-band ground radars could detect them at a distance about 600km, so interceptors would take off way earlier than it this video
So the Fighter Viggen was the only plane to get an aknowledged Blackbird intercept. I wonder in the US, how many training attempts were made to intercept the Blackbirds. Because if you look at the figures, in theory it could be done, but the SR-71 had ECM and at that speed any turn would massively change the intercept angle. Not to mention it was relatively stealthy. Maybe that was modeled in the Mod
Totally unrealistic as the intruder would break off if it detected them..., but.... how about the intercepting SR71s already taken off and on same heading as the intruder, mooching around down low in the radar clutter @ max speed for that alt, then as soon as the intruding 71 is detected, max thrust and climb and weapons launch as soon as suitable height and speed for a stern chase to work before the missiles run out of puff?
SR-71 Intercept Vid 1 Of 3: th-cam.com/video/87Xu9zen_P0/w-d-xo.html
SR-71 Intercept Vid 2 Of 3: th-cam.com/video/BNJaMngvmcE/w-d-xo.html
SR-71 Intercept Vid 3 Of 3: th-cam.com/video/tz_YnP7xFtQ/w-d-xo.html
....Also please somebody make a "Zero-length launch" rocket booster for the F-104 Starfighter mod, so that the Starfighter can take off instantly vertically and get to altitude faster! (Some West German Starfighters had those:)
WHAT?? SOURCE NOW THATS AMAZING
@@finkyfamboni4333 th-cam.com/video/75qnxMd1YSY/w-d-xo.html
F-104 Komet II :)
@@svenboelling5251 holy fucking shit thats amazing
that shit is amazing
IIRC, this scenario, or at least fairly close did play out in the Middle East in the 70's, in which stripped down MiG-25 reconnaissance versions were doing overflights of American allies in the region. F-4's were scrambled to try and intercept these spyplanes, but to no avail, the MiG's were too fast and the F-4 could not reach a viable intercept.
This helped lead to the active deployment of the F-15 (which was developed to counter the MiG-25's fictitious capabilities, such as it supposedly being a very agile fighter plane) in the area.
These F-15 reinforcements could make that climb and get missiles on target. This is what earned the F-15 the reputation as a "Foxbat killer."
This is me remembering old aviation articles I read somewhere near 10 years ago. If I mixed up a detail or forgot something, I'm sorry.
And there was a scale model set by Revell in 1/48 scale where both planes are included in the kit. I have the F-15 half of that kit.
Irony is the Foxbat with Acrid missiles very nearly downed an F15 in Iraq, the medium range IR R-40TD missile homed and hit but the damage wasnt enough to bring down the f15, it limped back to a friendly airfield on 1 engine. but took extensive damage. That is also why the F35's limited missile payload is a big problem when large, split engine//2 engine designs are inherently difficult to bring down, even when hit by a missile with a fairly large warhead because the R40 has "up to" 100kg payload, the AMRAAM only has ~18.2kg , which gives some idea of just what that F15 survived.
I can't help but notice that as you reach your closest intercept point with the aircraft, your bank to resume track is always pointing your radar away from the target. This is also exactly when you're trying to get a lock. There's no point in turning right - after that's he's already past you, and the radar needs to look at a target that would actually be DOWNWARD in your right-banked turn, while you actually have the radar set to scan high. I'd just do a straight intercept and lock him up as he passes over the nose (maybe a SLIGHT turn to prolong the lock-up time available) but I would think that might help in a case where you have no visual reference.
F104
Climb and cruise performance were outstanding; occasionally a "slow" light would illuminate on the instrument panel at around Mach 2 to indicate that the engine compressor was nearing its limiting temperature and the pilot needed to throttle back
we need more fuel updates as fuel consumption is critical during a simulated, one-way mission!
F-4 and F-104 look great. Looking forward to the updated F-104 mod. Such an amazing aircraft. High fidelity module would be so great.
AIM-54 Phoenix is the only missle that can do this, Mig 25 overflights of Iran stopped when the US sold them the F-14
And this is why Genie/Super Falcon were developed and AIM-47 nearly had a W42 in it. The F-108 was cancelled, F-12 never got out of the Ys, and the closest thing to giving enough performance for the task, possibly, would be a modified B-58 Hustler on high altitude patrol... AN/ASG-18 from the 108 program ended up in them anyways.
Sticking hard enough to the 80's to not allow AIM-120?
So are you guys just doing one trial and deducing from that one trial that it isnt possible? If so I would genuinely want you to practice and try to optimize your closure and see how well you can realistically intercept as if you were trained for it.
Well these are made for entertainment first, this video is already just under 40 minutes in length after editing. I'm sure they don't want to invest their lives into this lol
If any, the F15 E with one of those new Aim260 loaded
It's unfortunate that you can't put the 1984 AIM-135 ASAT on the F-15, that would have likely been the best choice for an intercept on the SR-71.
I cringed, thank you
cool
If a 71 was coming down the coast ground radar would have tracked the entire time. I would like to see you take off with full fuel well ahead of the 71 and see how that works.
The Blackbird was not that easy to track. By the time it took to scramble jets it was already out of range
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What about that lightning that intercepted Concorde ? Also got the U2
Those intercepts were at or below 65,000 feet, and concorde was mach 2 capable, u2 is waay subsonic. Totally different kettle of fish to a mach 3.3 85k feet intercept
@@thephantom2man You may want to watch this video by Mark Felton a good source of information. Apparently a lightning achieved an altitude of 88000 feet when intercepting a U2 which it passed and continued climbing. It as also apparently the only aircraft that managed to catch a BA concorde during an excercise including many of the types mentioned. Yes it is slower than th SR but potentially more capable than the other aircraft given a go. Surely worth a try ??
+1 on the lightning. Amazing speed to climb, high ceiling, respectable top speed….. just a few issues with fuel consumption
@@woolyimage ive watched it and am well aware of xr749, but xr749 was an f.3 with the smaller ventral tank, the avon 301R's, and the adens deleted, and was literally the fastest of all lightnings. Thing is, when it got up there and lost speed, it compresser stalled and flamed out (lightnings were known to above 50,000 feet) which wouldnt of helped, anf the red tops and firestreaks would no chance of been able to shoot down a blackbird, both being rear aspect only missiles, and both had quite short ranges, and a max speed of around mach 2.5.. so could a lightning of got up there? Yes, broadly speaking in a very specific set of circumstances, for a very short window.. but could a lightning of actually intercepted, got a lock and successfully fired and hit the blackbird? No chance
do a zoom climb and you will get the black bird with a 54 fired mad dog from a tomcat
agree
Why no wing tip sidewinders on the 104 ?
The 104 held all the records before the sr71 she should be able to do it
That was so dang exciting!
Try one with air patrol intercepting it. Say you already had f15s up on patrol and radar picked up the blackbird. Can you find it in time and shoot it down with the slower missiles?
You know, an external view ONLY dogfight would be fun to watch. Say start at 10k feet, and watch external from the merge.
Was actually just thinking about that.
f-16 is the only one that... could possible have a chance of doing better at this than the mig-31 - which in turn just barely almsot made it
f-15 too I kindof overlooked that was even in here at first
but none of the older ones
Can a A-12 intercept a SR-71 o0...have you done the Greenly F-22 mod with AIMM 120 D's in this intercept yet ?
didnt see the end 8)
7:15 that wasnt a stock starfighter. that had a rocket motor and rcs system strapped to it lol, it was a mini space shuttle
the rocket motor attempt you were referring to got to 120+. the one I made reference to was not rocket assisted thats why I referenced it and not the 120+ record. Cheers
I wonder how the Mirage would do in this? the super 530s seem really good in my experience with it.
Can the Blackbird see you coming? If so, is it not just a matter of veering away from the interceptors to escape?
At those altitudes, how can the missiles track and turn, they most likely would not have the ability to steer do to the thin air and small flight surfaces.
How about the Sr-71 being that it is a US plane.
I feel that the Tomcat still could if reconfigured
yes BUT need a good RIO to do that.
So is that "valid viewers", "valued viewers", or "valley viewers"?
We call our viewers Valued Viewers.
@@grimreapers Thanks for clarifying. I was scratching my head.
Need the NF-104 for the nigga 71 intercept
PICKLES!
Mig-31
you oversped the engines on the 104, sheesh
can the F14's nose tv camera spot the Blackbird??
All I’m saying is, is someone should mod a P&W F135 into a star fighter
agree
QUESTION: Did u ever figure out what the "RT" meant on the TID for the newest beta update?
Yes guy in comments researched it, tho currently not working as it turns out.
@@grimreapers thx for replying man. Not all youtube Creators do... 😎🙏💪💯
maybe try with jf 17 blck 3 mod
rgr
you can get him with the F-15 and Aim120c just shot a little in front of him so wehn he crosses and aim120 gose pitbul it will make the kill . aim9 stuf was nonsens
The F104 at around I think it’s 60 thousand feet it’s engine would cut out because the air is to thin for the F104 engine that’s why when Chuck Yeager F104 flight and took it to 100 thousand feet it had a solid rocket booster in the tail to train astronauts in what would be zero gravity for a couple of seconds before coming back down but the engine would cut out at around 60 thousand then you would shut the power off and start the rocket booster there’s a documentary on Chuck Yeager about it I remember watching it and it also briefly shown in the movie the right stuff I hope this helps cap also when is the new F104 mod available for download
I’m hearing a lot of _excuses_ gentleman... I regret putting you both on this admittedly pointless mission. Oh-and I was just court martialed.
27:23 YOU WATCH YOUR MOUTH TALKING ABOUT THOSE F-100-PW220 ENGINES, CAP 😤😤😤 Also try to hit the V-MAX switch for extra boost 🤣
I can only apologise...
@@grimreapers haha thanks for the reply! Love your content ❤
Avro Aero????
Irl the F104 would easily have completed this and it could take off almost vertical literally needed like no runway
In the F104 I noticed the ‘Slow’ warning light was illuminated during your climb. …..”Climb and cruise performance were outstanding; occasionally a "slow" light would illuminate on the instrument panel at around Mach 2 to indicate that the engine compressor was nearing its limiting temperature and the pilot needed to throttle back”
Wow thanks! Had no idea
With no external loads or just Aim-9s the F-104's top speed was limited by those factors. Also, the fixed shock cones were optimized for speeds around M1.6+.
For one high altitude / high speed attempt the pilot got some waivers (compressor inlet temperature, aluminum hull temperature) plus some airframe modifications. E.g. modified shock cones for higher speeds.
Unofficial speed record: around Mach 2.5.
@@slowhornet4802 technically the F104 limits were induced by compressor temperature as the air induced so much drag that the temperature was going above the safe limits: alloy technology was not upt to the task yet, but you really can appreciate how amazing the plane was an an interceptor.
Larger and heavier planes struggle to get to speed due to aerodynamic drag, but not the 104
@Zumzifero Yes, exactly. And it had a fixed cone to generate the oblique shock waves. No complicated ramp systems or movable cone. I read initial F-104s (A-C models) required 10-15 hours maintenance per flight hour, and this did not change much when the aircraft got older. G model was more complex and required more hours.
@@Leptospirosi It was an engine with minimal wings. If you ever saw one fly at an airshow you know how impressive this little fighter was.
7:06 SuperCap ignores the SLOW! down warning lights...
And 30 seconds later wonders why the engine cutout...😏😁🤣
I bet they modelled it to melt the front compressor disk like the real thing when you go past mach 2
@@unclejoeoakland Yup, that's what I was thinking also...
Damn! I thought for once I was getting in first with an intelligent comment but you must have posted while I was still writing. 😢
It didn't matter the engine was modeled to cut out at altitude. I talked to the mod maker and sent them some references of altitude and performance from the past. they will look into it and possibly tweak the model in the future.
Ah, yes I seemed to have missed that sign...
From a weaponeering standpoint you have a bit of an issue. Even being at +Mach you’re still ~30k feet below the target, and that does not account for lateral travel. The burn rate in something you can launch from anything available in DCS will not support a 5 mile climb and chase of something that’s moving that fast.
This moves beyond the realm of Super Sonic.
I get the rules, but for realism, wouldn’t the F-14s start in CAP at FL35 or so?
Yup the f14s speed plus those phoenix missles.
Don't climb as high as possible. Get as fast as possible then zoom at the end
your videos are the only thing that keep me going thru these hard times for me, keep up the good work grim reapers.
Thx Bobby
Any heat seeking missile that can do Mach 4+ would be able to catch the Blackbird. The hard part would be getting a lock when it's already doing Mach 3.2.
Please oh please somebody make a CF-105 Avro Arrow mod for DCS (and shoot down that damn SR-71;)
lol id love to see an ee lightning have a pop at this
Why are you doing a T intercept. By the time you get a lock with these plane’s radars the sr 71 is in front of you and going away at twice the speed of the missiles and you can’t chase an sr 71. If you launch the missiles before the merge they don’t have to chase the plane.
How do you spect to shoot a mach 3 Sr71 with aim9??? The sidewinder max speed is mach 2,5
I recall an F 106 burning up an engine, but did reach a U-2 as directed in a War Game. I would think a Mig 25 could do it if everything went perfect. Of course, some Egytain pilot burnt up a Mig 25 engine running at Mach 3 + getting away from Israil jets coming up for him. He might not have the fuel to travel very far from base and do the climb.
There a reason they called it a starfighter 105,000 feet that impressive.
CAP Starfighter NOOB extraordinaire; Begin your high Mach run at 36,000ft. At Mach 2 your inlet temperature will be 100C. The red SLOW light will be flashing. Inlet temps limit is 121C. You have 5 minutes when the SLOW light is on. Climb at Mach 2, always mindful of the inlet temps limits. Fuel consumption at 36,000ft and Mach 2 is a mere 350 lbs per minute. Why do you want to climb at Mach 2? Let the following comparison have Pickles want to "cat" the HOTAS:
F-16 climb rate at Mach 2; 1,500 feet per minute
F-104 climb rate at Mach 2; 25,000 feet per minute!
Pickles is holding up the calculator showing the the F-104's climb rate is 17 TIMES BETTER than the Viper at that speed and altitude. Need help picking your jaw up off the floor?
The J79 -19 is a turbojet and is just beginning to show us its efficiency envelope. At speed and altitude it is making 25,000 lbs thrust, up from the static number of 18,900-ish. The turbofan is wheezing right where the turbojet is clearing its vocals. So know you now how and why the F-104 cruised at 73,000 feet at Mach 2 with only 3/4 AB sipping 100 lbs of fuel a minute.
Knighton leaves the room, Pickles applauses, and CAP Starfighter NOOB re-runs the mission every day until 2026 to "work the numbers" and say, "English Electric Lightning who?"
Whoopsie! This is all new to me...
SuperCap forgetting to turn on the Master Arm is such a SuperCap thing to do.
yup!
When using the star fighter, maintain you max altitude with engines, intercept and align with the track ahead of the sr71 and let it overtake you. As it approaches, you at max speed, nose up, close the altitude gap on kinetic energy , forget about the engines, lock, fire, fall back to earth, restart the engine around 40k, go home and have a cuddle.
Engine would be toast and you now have a lawn dart 🎯.
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again We're making human sacrifices to take down this SR - the dictator isn't ready to show the world his immaculate new in ground pool just yet
U should try vertical scan mode on the f15c with the sparrow
rgr
What about the NF-104A; an F-104 with both an air breathing J79 and a Rocketdyne AR2-3 High test peroxide rocket engine putting out 6,000lbf of thrust.
Also, this is the US, DAMNIT. If we strapped .50s to Piper Cubs during WWII, you can bet your rear end we'd strap missiles onto the Space Shuttle if needed.
@@stinkyfungus Fair enough. Then again, this is GR we're talking about here...
The moral is………..make sure you’re in the SR-71 😂
F-16 ftw! Pretty much my favorite plane ever. And the WinWing F-16 throttle is FINALLY almost mine!! Hahaha
Should make a video with Canadian planes like the Avril arrow or the voodoo if there is even mods for them
what the simulation shows is exactly what happened in reality: missiles fired in anger but the SR-71 just laughs at it while at 25km+ altitude and going faster than a speeding bullet...
Vid Title: "REALISTIC SR-71 Blackbird Intercept"
2nd intercept Aircraft: An F4 with an F15 cockpit
Me: ...
Don't what I am missing here. But the F-4 and F-14 are faster than the F-16.
climb rate is more important here i think
F-106 enters the chat
F-106 Delta Dart firing a AIR-2 Genie missile?
... (air to air 1.5 kt nuclear tipped missile;)
Crappy Pratt & Whitney engines on the F-15’s ? Do you know what engines powered the Blackbirds ? P&W’s !
Well considering the F-4 couldnt intercept the lower and slower MIG-25 in real life, Im guessing no before I watch.
You should do a video on the USAF X-15
rgr
Angles are off.... The F-14 should have been able to do this... Between the power of the radar and the speed of the missiles it should have been a relative piece of cake.
None of them. Any other plane in the sky would burn itself down trying to catch or keep up with a Blackbird.
What about a 106? It was made for high intercept. Load it with AIR-2A Genie
F106 was one of the jets that would chase and cruise to 70k ft according to a lot of reports. I know it was a photo plane for the sr at altitude because the six had a light enough wing loading to do so
I think without a doubt before even watching this that the f15 could do it since i know it shot a satellite down before
весело, но неправильная постановка задачи и исполнение :) перехватывать надо в лоб на крайний случай близко к 90 градусам, но никак не вдогон :)
В таком случае можно и на миг21 перехватить его :)
is this mission available for us to dl and have a pop at?
msg me privately and ill send over but dont want to post public
Easy answer. None. Only the Mig31 can and still would be a long shot
The f14 did actually do this in real life
37min video,
you : 5342 words
Simba: 7
Maybe an F-101 or F-106 with Genie rockets.
With the 104 you need to have more speed before climbing. It's easy to maintain speed in a climb in that plane but only if you have speed. The slower you go the more it lacks in performance overall. Think of it as a mini sr 71. If you did that climb from 45k after getting to over 700+ knots, ideally closer to 1000, you'd be up at 60-65k and well over mach
P.s. you guys do this a lot. You really need to be gaining more energy before these climbs in these types of intercepts
Simba has a much better tactic when it comes to climbing. F 16 is perfect example. You are slightly ahead but he has more height and speed and is on par with intercept angle.
***sorry more speed but so much more he'll still be faster with a 20-30 degree climb to get to your point from where he is.
A human Rio might have made the difference in the f14a
If only u had a effect English electric lightning
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Cap: 'ooo they are smoky engines'
F-4 Phantom's engines:[becomes perfectly stoichiometric]
Possible, but you'd have to eyeball it like a pro billiards player. ;D
agree
When he learns to slew his radar up he might be able to see it. More user error than equipment fail.
could you do this again with the newly updated F-16 mod cap?
rgr
Grim:"uses the other version of the blackbird"
Me:"YF,YF VS YF"
My brain:"*melts to mush*
also me:"why?"
Duh, the YF-12 interceptor.
Perhaps you can try it with actual fighter pilots and see what they do.
agree
Is there any way to turn down the sonic boom in exterior? As fun as it is, we do so many exterior flybys in these videos that is quite annoying to hear a billion booms. Otherwise, I'll just go STFU in the corner lol
BAC Lightning?
A bit disapointed F14 and F15 where not able to get him. Something wrong with the 14? That was very poor performance.
Nothing wrong with them, but everything is wrong with the intercept. SR-71 were intercepted head on, "detected" before the take off because tankers started to take off before them.
What's more, L-band ground radars could detect them at a distance about 600km, so interceptors would take off way earlier than it this video
14 was the A model and the TF30 engines just weren't up to the job. F-15 we just couldn't find him on radar :(
So the Fighter Viggen was the only plane to get an aknowledged Blackbird intercept.
I wonder in the US, how many training attempts were made to intercept the Blackbirds. Because if you look at the figures, in theory it could be done, but the SR-71 had ECM and at that speed any turn would massively change the intercept angle. Not to mention it was relatively stealthy. Maybe that was modeled in the Mod
this begs the question, can ANYTHING intercept the blackbird?
Next vids uses modern weapons.
Totally unrealistic as the intruder would break off if it detected them..., but....
how about the intercepting SR71s already taken off and on same heading as the intruder, mooching around down low in the radar clutter @ max speed for that alt, then as soon as the intruding 71 is detected, max thrust and climb and weapons launch as soon as suitable height and speed for a stern chase to work before the missiles run out of puff?
Can You add few SA-5 SAM sites and run the mission?
yup
Why don't you use SA 5 against a blackbird
yup will do