Undervolt your Ryzen 7 7800X3D for more FPS and Lower Temperature!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2024
- Those Ryzen 7000 CPUs can be quite a bit power hungry if you let them behave like they want to, which is why today we're setting this R7 7800X3D to be more performing in multithread AND more power efficient, with lower temps and stopping it from overheating. I'm presenting a couple different methods, both using PBO and the Curve Optimizer, but also with a fixed core clock and a static voltage offset.
This will work for every X3D chip from AMD, with the 3D V-Cache like the Ryzen 9 7900X3D and 7950X3D
If you like the video, be sure to drop a comment to let me know! Same goes if you encounter any kind of problem and would like some help! :)
Here is the video about the PC in the tutorial, with benchmarks:
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Thanks I copied you’re settings a few months ago and did a bios update so now I’m back. Thanks again I appreciate your videos
This is insanely useful for Mini itx users who have low profile coolers which can’t keep it cool consistently
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Thanks a lot for this, I used the dynamic undervolt on my ASUS X670E-E (BIOS 1905) and my 7800X3D, whilst gaming (Cyberpunk / The Last of Us Part 1) it runs average 64c (cpu package) whereas before it was running around 77-80 average.
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whats the dynamic undersvolt ????
Is package more important than individual cores?
@@zGiGi "Dynamic undervolt" is the first thing introduced in this video. It combines temperature limits and Curve Optimizer settings. (Google Translation)
Subbed! Thanks dude I now get around 65C on full load. Cheers!
I’m glad I could help, thanks a LOT for the sub :)
Did you do static or dynamic optimization?
@@jakemarshall7686 dynamic
static or dynamic?
Which settings?
I did -30 unvervolt and f10. Cinebench was 16028 stock. After undervolt it's now 17800. (Multi cpu) 7800x3d. Thanks dude. Temperature was 80s. Now 70s under load
-27 gives 18576
Amazing Video!!! I did the first one -20 and my Rust FPS boosted from 120 to 140-180 while having 5-10celsius less temps!!! Tyvm ❤️😁 (specs - ryzen 7 7800x3d, XTX 7900, 32gb 6000mhz, Asus X670E-F gaming, 1440p 165hz.)
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Lol got the same specs on my pc, about to undervolt my cpu also
now its a party same rigs as above taichi xtx card tho hyte y60 rocking 9 fansa gonna try this soon peace i sub'd @@jaxxone4907
Gonna try
subscribed! do you recommend changing the max processor state to 99% instead of 100% in the processor power management ?
Thanks a lot for the sub :) 100% is fine!
Hey, thanks for this!!! I notice you left CPU boost clock override disabled. On my MB it was set to auto. Should i leave it auto or disabled?
love your content friend :)
Thanks a lot!! :))
recently computer has a single click/tick sound in the system once in awhile (i can confirm its not any of the case fan and cpu fan) so im playing around with the undervolting to see whether it works... any idea what can the click sound come from?
another question is can i use both dynamic and static at the same time? for eg, PBO all core set to -25 and thermal limit to 80 + SOC voltage override and i set it to 1.20v does both of these work together or its either or? i also set my maximum proccessing power to 99% to disable the turbo boost of my 7800x3d which can get quite hot. thank you in advance!
so I just found out about ccdg global voltage setting in bios.
when you are using a ram oc profile, it will set to 1000mv automatically.
I changed both global ccd settings to 950 & mouse movement / gameplay is way smoother.
I’m going to play around with other voltages for the 3dv cache so I’ll update this thread.
my theory here is… better temperature for the 3dvcache will make things much smoother.
and so far that’s what I’m experiencing
That’s not a theory, that’s a fact! Running with the minimum possible voltage is always the best :)
Found any good results? Just bought this cpu and looking to optimize
@@TheAquaBuilder so for any motherboard the rule of thumb is - when you turn on xmp and then save + reboot, voltages will automatically be set because of the xmp profile that was set.
if you are not using 7000mhz & above you don’t need vddg iod / vddg ccd at 1000mv. So setting it to 950mv will be perfectly safe. depending on the quality of your chip, you can probably set it lower in increments of 5.
Have any other questions ?
This was perfect, can’t wait to play w this CPU after work
very interesting gonna try this with my nr200p max:) ! which benchmark would you recommend to test?
Let us know how it goes and consider subscribing if it ends up being helpful! I recommend Prime95
@@ImWateringPSUswould you recommend the first or the second way of using pbo (I haven’t tried the part where you say static).
For the first part with the thermal limit and curve optimizer i level 1;2;3 all are unusable i have a sff pc and games like warzone start running super inconsistent and because i seem to get thermal throttle with level 2-3. with level 1 it’s a bit better but it feels like i have way more input delay l, as something is if something is slowing down the pc. Alao with pbo my cpu time in wz went from 2-3ms (i tweaked windows and bios) to 10-15 ms which feel super unresponsive. I just bought new fans for my aio which have higher static pressure and some for the bottom of the case and put all to exhaust (nr200p max) and now reverted all bios settings and left pbo untouched.
Gonna try the static version you mentioned to day maybe jt works better! :)
idk for the 7000, but on my 5700X, the best Curve Optimizer I've found was -10... 0 it gets too hot, lower than -15 it loses performance on Cinebench... at -10 it keeps well below 75ºC on my cheap cooler and has the best performance
Mines been great. Stable@ 6000 with tight secondary timings and it runs in the 60s during gaming. Got 14600 on timespy with -25 allcore UV
Those are some great numbers! Thanks a lot for sharing :)
I noticed you have CPU boost clock override disabled. Do i leave leave it as auto or change to disabled?
I am scared but I will try it, thanks 😬
TY! Idle temps noticeably lower now
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What are your temps at?
Very informarive. Thank you alot ❤❤🎉
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I confirmed it is working on A620 boards. You canno't overclock to higher frequencies than stock, with 3D chips, unless you set different "fsb" than 100 mhz.
but you can set pbo options to max, which equals to undervolting, if you have a good binning.
should do it for pbo
but for memory controller........"inside" the cpu....😵💫
you don't have access to curve optimizer in A620 boards though.
Glad to hear some extra feedback, thank you for commenting!
I have rog b650-a motherboard and i didn't have the option for a thermal limit. I assumed maybe some motherboard just don't have that as a option and proceed to follow the rest of the video for the dynamic undervolt. As of right now everything is running fine but I'm just wondering if this is something to be concerned about and if maybe i should just go back to stock settings for the chance that not having a limit could be harmful
Nope youre fine there should be settings in the ryzen apps that force shutdown if temps of 89c are hit. If you wanted to, you could adjust it lower but its fine like he says in the video 85c and 90c are viable options
same motherboard,did u find where thermal limit is?
I m using a msi 650 for this and i m not getting the thermal limit option ,there are only 4 option for me those are auto,enabled,disable and advanced,what should i do?
Thanks man ❤, I’m going to save this video until I receive my motherboard.
Thanks a lot for watching :)
what would be the recomended coolers really for the 7800x3D? im torn to choose between the NZXT H6 Flow or the Lian Li O11D EVO case wheres in the NZXT is between the Arctic LF3 360 or an Thermalrigt Peerless Assassin 120 or in the Lian Li the Arctic LF3 420 or a Peerless Assassin, (i do get that AIOs might be complete overkill so its more for the esthetics) but a "bigger" AIO comes with the benefit to run the fans alot slower to lower the fan noise and with the VRM fan on the LF3 to also cool the VRM sounds like an benefit aswell?
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE more than enough
Do you suggest running these setting WITH PBO?? In the last video I watched of yours I set mine to the 80 level 2 (80/20). Thank you again man🙏🙏
The Dynamic option sure, it's basically what we're doing in the tutorial! The static option no, PBO will automatically be disabled. 80/20 is very good, I'd keep it that way personally. Glad to have you watching multiple of my vids!
@@ImWateringPSUsgot it, basically just another way to skin a cat? Or is there additional benefits to using this tutorial?
And for sure brother love when I need to learn something and your channel pops up!!😂
Hi.Insane vid. I did first one (dynamic). I got more fps and no microlags while playing high fps games with 240hz monitor. But in games like PUBG i have high temp like 75-80. I wanna lower it a bit. Should i do lower negative (like 25-30) or lover limit (like 75 may be). I have MSI b650 mboard and i can set Power limit throttling on 75 or 70.
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I need help please, my MOBO is an ASROCK B650e but I can’t find those options (multiplier and core voltage) please help me
SOC Voltage is as the name says for the SOC and not for the cpu/cores.
And the stable voltage depends on the ram. I have hynix a-die. And can run 6000 MT/s with 1,075v.
Me too so gonna try this
I think AMD disable the CPU clock ratio/multiplier for 7800X3D, only let PBO decide which clock the CPU would run to match the set up of SOC voltage/CPU curve. I can not find that setting in BIOS of MSI X670E Carbon either. (Correct me if Im wrong, many thanks 😅😅😅)
Theoretically on the latest bios you should be able to do as I’ve done
@@ImWateringPSUs ofc I have undervolted like your video did, I also cannot find the CPU clock/multiplier.
Me too. (B650 TOMAHAWK)
Thanks! I can now run my case fans close to 0 in normal use, and CPUs aio cooler lower and processor temp still hovers around 40c in light use like youtube etc. I used -30 in curve optimizer and -1.2v.
I’m really happy I could help :))
What setting did you set the -1.2v?
I have the AsRock Phantomgaming Bios and i cant find many of the options as described in the video. Like Thermallimit(its a manual number so its present but cpu voltage under the Tweaker Tab is nowhere to be seen? Could it be called something completly different in this case?
I have a rog mobo and it was found under ai tweaker instead of advanced
I have OC tweaker but the names for the options are either completly different or not there. also what is supposed to be a multiplier wont let you input 48 like mentioned in the video.
Grazie del video, dopo ci provooooo
:)
This dude is great.
Thanks a looooooot :)
Thanks im doing -30 CO all core on my 7800x3d and getting max clock and 60 or less degreas average while gaming but i use termal trotle limit at 70 to stop the spikes of temperature im very happy playing cs2 at 52-54 degreas on mirage 600-700 fps
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Ever since I bought my 7800x3D, I couldn't enable PBO. It was causing system instability, very slow and choppy. It looked like a Pentium 1 and my temps were at 80+ idle. But for some reason, by enabled PBO with 80 level 3, curve all core negative 20 and it worked
Hey, can you please make a tutorial for undervolting the 14700k?
I'll try to make it asap! My recommendation would be, in the meantime, to watch both my i5 14600K undervolting tutorial and the i9 14900K one. The i7 is right in the middle so you could still get it done :)
Ei bellissimo video! Avrei una domanda, ma c’è ancora il problema che i core 3d non vengono priorizzati sui giochi e come faccio a fixarlo?
Grazie! Col 7800X3D il problema non c’è mai stato perché ha solo core X3D. Se hai il 7950X3D, allora si. Tutt’ora. Ci sono dei tool per sistemarlo ma bisogna farlo per ogni gioco
I'm still saving to buy a 7800x3d so I'm gonna save this one.
The same! Im too saving money for 7800x3d ❤
I just built with it over the weekend paired with 32 gigs of ram and an rx7800xt the cpu has been running around 45c cooled by a deepcool ak620 zero dark air cooler
I hope you’ll be able to buy it soon and I hope the video will come in handy :)
i just got one but fyi it only works with ddr5
I'm gonna make my next build with this CPU when I move to Spain (it's gonna take a while but I'll worth it) maybe with a 4070 Ti Super or 7900GRE if the RTX doesn't reduces its price.
Hi, I recently bought a 7900xtx and 7800x3d with a msi x670e, do you think this setting will work on my set up?
Yessir! But only if you drop a like and a sub
Ciao mitico e complimenti per il canale, sei top! Comunque senza pbo enhancement ma advanced con curve all core/negative e -30 più altri vari set che non sto qui a scriverti perchè sono diversi ( tipo IOMMU disable ) il consumo in idle sta sui 37/38 W, con chrome aperto anche picchi di 42 . Invece con il bios a stock stavo sui 22 W ma temp più alte. A te risultano questi consumi? penso sia normale per il 7800x3d vero? 🤔 Grazie
Intanto grazie mille! Andando solo di negative PBO offset non ci dovrebbero essere risultati negativi sul voltaggio in idle. Attento a non aver cambiato lo scalare della curva del PBO oppure qualche setting del risparmio energetico, comunque un consumo idle medio si attesta intorno ai 25/30W, dunque i tuoi valori non sono troppo distanti da quelli che ci si aspetterebbe, considera anche che ci può essere qualche processo extra che gira in background!
@@ImWateringPSUs grazie a te, farò altri test, considera che a stock se non ricordo male stava sui 22. In ogni caso la config di adesso è stabile a -30, sono vari set se riesco te li elenco qui sotto appena posso… lato temp va da paura, meno lato consumi in idle
Which setting do you think makes more sense to use?
Quick question, im using 7800x3d and i tried doing msconfig-boot- used 16 cores. is it okay to do that? if not how will i put it on default? thank you!
Hello u have a video with 7800x3d and Msi B650?
I hear you say on a few occasions that with certain settings applied, the PC can crash. What’s the best way to check for stability at certain frequencies? Is there a good benchmark to run?
Cinebench will stress the cpu heavier than any game could
@@Kocainn so it’s good to run this to test the undervolt? How long should you run this for to test the stability? Will one run do or should you do several?
@@Jacketz123 I ran mine with these + undervolt settings for 20 minutes on both single and multi core. Then I hopped on some CPU heavy games for further tests. I had no issues
@@Jacketz123 The worst thing that could happen is a blue screen, if you encounter any problems, go back to the bios and re-adjust your values
@@Kocainn nice. What level of Undervolt did you manage to reach on your chip out of curiosity?
I’ve built this new pc 3 days ago and I’ve now experienced 2 BSODs. First time happened when I loaded into a discord vc with games installing and second time when leaving a Fortnite match. Would this fix it possibly. I have 7800x3d on Msi Tomahawk B650
Man these are my rig
msi Pro b650-S M/B
G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo 32gb 6400mhz 32CL
Ryzen 7800x3d
Sapphire nitro+ rx 7900 xtx
My question is what settings should i put in the msi bios i really need your help.
Thank you in advance
Should I do both dynamic and static changes or just one or the other?
You have to choose one unfortunately!
@@ImWateringPSUs okay I chose dynamic 😁
I had mine hitting low 90s which isn't safe at all, it's max is 89c. For productivity it was unusable, since anything over 80% usage caused it to get to hot. I've got a thermal limiter and the PBO settings on now, so it won't go over 80c and still performs just as good. It's concerning to me, I got a massive case, with a 360 X73 AIO and both my 5900X and 7800X3D would get real hot and we able to be undervolted quite a bit without a noticeable performance loss.
I don’t have the option for Thermal Limit in my Asus bios. I only see PBO Limits, PBO Scalar Ctrl, CPU Boost Clock Override, and Platform Thermal Throttle Ctrl. I’m guessing it’s not the last one since you have that as well.
Never mind there seems to be two PBO locations. One in the Advanced section and the other in the Ai Tweaker section. The one in the Ai Tweaker section shows Thermal Limit as well as the Enhancement PBO setting.
The thing is that we can only set the thermal limits only 75/85 not 80
@@MrGordi320 I was able to set it to 80 but for me it was Level 2 instead of the Level 3 shown in the video. I have a Asus B650E-F motherboard so it might be different for you. Set it to 75 or 85, there shouldn't be an issue since I don't think you'll be reaching those temperatures anyways if you have the Curve Optomizer set Negative.
@@MrGordi320 To enter Tweaker section you have to be in the Advanced Mode view. When you enter the BIOS you'll probably be in the EZ Mode view, at the bottom right you'll see Advanced Mode. Either click it or press F7 on your keyboard. From there you'll see the Tweaker section at the top.
Wierd thing.
I do have 2 curve optimizers.
1 is in Advanced
And 2 ist in Aitweaker.
Which do i use?
good question need the answer for that too
@@jacktheripper6481 i just did his method on both. So far. All stable
I tried to replicate your settings, but the MSI bios are quite different, and I can not find the enhancement setting. Please check how I can do this. I need undervolting my CPU as I will change the cooler system in 3/4 months, so it's better to do it now. I have a B650 Tomahawk MoBo and, of course, a Ryzen 7800X3D.
If you check in my CPU undervolting playlist, I do have a few tutorials on MSI BIOSes as well. Also be sure to subscribe to the channel!
@@ImWateringPSUs thank you, already did💪🏻
Ciao! sapresti dirmi quanto potrei perdere in performance?
For the 7800x3d, you do not have the option to manually set the CPU ratios or Vcore. You can only set an offset but you cannot for example set all cores to 48, the motherboards lock this setting for the 7800x3d
Awesome thx got mine stable at neg 30 😊
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Please post a video for undervolt 5700x3d
The settings are the exact same ones shown in my R7 5800X3D UV video :)
Sorry for bad english i dont understate good. Do i have to do and static and dinamic overclocking or i can to do only dinamic?
Only one
@@jakemarshall7686 ty bro
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where did you get your biostar motherboard? i really want to buy it, but i can't find it anywhere
Here in Italy they’re readily available!
Thanks for this settled at -20 and seeing 5.0ghz stable
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I won the silicone lottery. I managed to get -35 on all core, and it’s stable
@@kaoe145 mine is stable at -40 lol
@@TheCreaperHead I thought -35 was impressive. What did you score in cinebench and do you have pbo enabled?
@kaoe145 on r23, I got 18818
If I do PBO can I still lower the SOC voltage down?
Is it possible to install CPU soc -1.12? Is this normal?
can undervolting a 7800x3d possibly hurt anything? Like the internal memory controller? The reason I ask is that I recently had to replace my 7800x3d because of a bad memory controller.
I had a -30 on all cores PBO on mine. I would run some stress test and I never had any problems. To be honest I never really had any issues running -35 on all cores either. ITs just the gains were marginal so I just set it at -35. But one day my computer woudn't post to bios. I thought it might be a bad RAM, or MOBO, so I replaced those, and I still couldn't post. It wasn't until I tried replacing the CPU did it just boot up just fine.
I probably replaced the mobo and ram for no reason. I actually didn't replace the ram, I bought new ram to see if it was the issue and it wasn't.
I was trying to run AMD EXPO of 6400 cl32, but I capped the speed at 6000 just because peopel said the 1:1 ratio for the infinity cache was optimal at this speed.
I'm trying to find out what could have caused my CPU Internal memory controller to go bad only 3 months old.
Could it have been running AMD EXPO?
Could it have been running undervolt on cpu?
Could it have been the damn cable mod extensions?
Nope, minor voltage can’t hurt the CPU. BUT, while enabling EXPO many voltages are raised. Those can 100% hurt the CPU
@@ImWateringPSUs I understand. I think I might just keep the ram at stock settings which I think is 4800 m/t. I honestly don't want to go through the hassle of replacing the CPU again because of a blown memory controller. I'm just trying to find out what could have caused it and rule out the other things I've done. On my new cpu, so far I'm testing it at -50 PBO and it seems stable but I want to try other test to see how stable it is.
Many people including youtubers say that is harder to post at more then 6000mhz so i just bought gskill 6000mhz cl32
maybe its not a good idea to go past 6000mhz
I was able to do the dynamic settings. I havent really noticed a difference in tempatures. Its alot different from a gigabyte bios. Also, what software would i use to test my cpu to make sure it doesn't give me the bsod?
Hardware info
I recommend Prime95 for testing. Check the difference in performance my man, the dynamic option changes a lot :)
I tried negative 18 and it crashed when loading games so I’ve set it to negative 10 and it’s all good to go. Is negative 20 stable for you playing a game?
you gotta really test it , 15 usually works but remember about your 2 best cores. Use amd ryzen to check what these are. You wanna undervolt it a little less. 10 for example compared to 15 since they're really sensitive
Definitely agreed! I usually recommend against per-core optimization because it’s a little harder to test stability, but sometimes dialing back just the bad cores help. I’d say try -15 and you should be good :)
cpu 7800x3d 40-50s idle around 50s average when browsing and around high 40s- tohigh60s only spikes to low 70s when booting a game up depending on the game all on air cooling noctua after I Try a AIO ill probably do this tutorial next if i don't see progress from Air to AIO thanks
So why not cpu offset voltage and curve optimizer ? Stay with soc voltage under 1.3v and you should be save, this is what amd said.
You can do both methods, as you please :) I show them in the video all and you guys decide which one you prefer
B650 aorus elite ax dont have cpu core ratio config or i dont see it 😢
Last 2 days im using the 7800x3d with -30 curve optimizer and clock override negative 500mhz, so it stays at 4500mhz it stays at 52 degreas and 360-550 fps in cs2 with 4070 super on comp settings, at 5.0GHZ it gets to 61-66 degreas and 500-700 fps
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Hello dude, can you help me with this CPU? I`m literally "don`t open bios and use your CPU", but i bought 7800x3d and found your video, so: am i just need use curve optimizer or after curve i need downgrade Soc Voltage too? Sorry for my bad English, i hope Google translate will help you understand me bro
Just curve optimizer is gonna be fine! But consider subscribing to the channel :)
Hello, I have an asrock B650I MB. I dont have the option for a thermal limit under the precision boost overdrive. Any ideas?
Are you running the latest bios?
Me too...latest bios
I believe so unless a new one has come out recently. I'll look tonight.@@ImWateringPSUs
When you do the first part for gaming do you still have to do the second part? 😮
Nope!
OMG..... What kind of airflow do you have in your PC if you have installed Cpu cooler in that way ?? Any benefit of if ??
Ahahaha the full video about the build is on the channel, it has a very weird airflow setup but very effective!
@@ImWateringPSUs Fully understand now. First time I see case like this, where motherboard is in a different position then usual. Very interesting.Thumbs up.
Ill have to double check but im pretty sure im undervolted down to 1.1, my cpu with pbo runs steady, stays at about 1 to 1.15 while under load, temps i have set to 85 and it it maxes usually around 82, 83.
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Hi, I have 7800x3d and I go for static - 1.2V and curve optimizer -30. Bro, u are best! Temps shifted from 55-60°C to 40°C at idle. Thanks a lot!✌🏻
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anychance for a video like that for 14700k?
Yessir, it’s coming soon on the channel!
when i run a game like helldivers 2 on max settings i get 75, am i crazy for wanting to do this guide? on idel i get between 53 to 56 is that normal?
Nope, this guide is gonna help my man :)
My 7800x3d stable at -25 PBO all cores at 1.25 soc voltage. If I lower soc under 1.25v the OCCT test gives errors. 1.25 soc is considered a safe voltage, and lowering it leads to deterioration in PBO performance. By the way, the default soc value in the latest versions of BIOS = 1.28v and it's safe for 7800d3d.
You mean max v? All new bios will not push past 1.25v, asus board doesn't push past 1.2v because of the melting situation (I mean they can but turbo clock will not see past 1.25v)
@@SabentHD I mean SoC voltage. On lastest Asus Bios default soc value is 1.28v.
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Actually all asus boards will push the soc going to 6400 ram outside of the limits regardless@@SabentHD
Which setting to use for gaming Dynamic or Static?
Dynamic!
In x670e gaming plus i have only PBO Auto, disabled, enabled or advanced. When i click advanced i see PBO Limits which can be set auto, disabled, mobo or manual, if i click manual it tells me to enter ppt limit, tdc limit and edc limit, what do i have to do?
I got same as you. You have to put platform thermal throttle Ctrl to manual and manually put 80 or whatever value you want to platform thermal throttle limit.
You can also overclock it for more more fps and more temperature right??
😂😂😂yes you can. Very similar procedure just push the temp target higher
Whats the difference between the 2 options?
The dynamic one allows for a higher turbo boost hence better single thread performance/better “high fps” in games. The second one has an even lower power consumption and allows for higher sustained multi core, more stable 1% low fps and overall a better productivity score. I really recommend to test both options out
I have no CPU clock or ratio multiplier on my board :(
I'm confused. Do I do both the boost and static? It's a bit confusing what you said in the middle.
Sorry for the confusion, you need to pick one!
@@ImWateringPSUs thank you. Appreciate it.
If I don't have a curve option on the mother board. I have MSI 650 gaming wifi and I want to undervolt only. I made -0.120 for every core. It's okay? Or I can try to minus more? I I'm confused😅
If it’s stable it’s fine! But I do have a dedicated Ryzen 5 tutorial
Hi, my msi b650 tomahawk doesn’t have the thermal limit option. What should i do? Should i set 80 in the platform thermal throttle limit instead?
That's the same thing, type 80 in that section as there is no drop down.
@@bigguschungus968 i thought that but u can see platform thermal throttle limit in the bios in the vid as a separate option so i was confused. he had both thermal limit and platform thermal throttle limit in settings
I cannot find the same options inside my B650E Aorus 😞😞
Great video the im at -30 still getting 5ghz. My temps dropped on every game except for Apex lol. Idk why but they stay between 70-78 in apex every other game in the 60’s. I have a 4080 with Asus Tuf B650 Plus with 32gb Corsair 6000mts cl30
Limit FPS in Apex manually. GAme engine tends to push CPU to max
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Hi do I still need to do this I have 4090 for fps and hottest the temps ever got on my 7800x3d max load was 70?
Yes, you’ll get more performance
I can do this in a 620 motherboard. Or I need a 650 or higher?
I won the silicone lottery. I managed to get -35 on all cores, and it’s stable.
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i dont have thermal limit on b650 aorus elite ax
it’s called platform thermal throttle ctrl
Thanks for that. When I try putting the curve at 20 my pc gets a failed to boot blue screen. 10 seems to work fine and I’ve left the thermal limit at 85. Is this good
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I’m doing a build with a 7800x3d and wanting to go with air cooling instead of aio liquid. Do I need to undervolt it for fan cooling?
I’d really recommend undervolting, yes
Try limiting the PPT to 60W. I dropped another 20 degrees by doing this with only 1-2% performance loss.
I have deepcool ag620 argb and i do 65-72 degreas on stock.
I use TDP 45w mode(real 62watts maximum). Only this settings reduces alot the temperature cause it never goes above 62 watts. For better improvemente Curve optimizer negative -20 all core on PBO settings. With this settings you lose almost zero fps. Now last setting but this one makes you lose a bit of FPS but largely decreases temperature, on PBO settings choose clock overide negative 500mhz, it makes your max clock be 4500mhz. With this settings with my beefy air cooler i have 52degreas on CS2 with 400-600 fps, The Finals 180-240 fps 52 degreas, pubg 300-500fps 52-60 degreas.
Worth it for a 5600x3d? Can't seem to get it quiet under load at 1440p.
For the 5600X3D take a look at my R7 5800X3D video (in my CPU undervolting playlist) and copy the settings exactly :)
My bios doesn't have curve optimiser.. is there a workaround for this?
They all do! It’s in “AMD Overclocking Option”
Will we have a low temperature with both settings?
Yes
is this good or better if you do 4k gaming though, my shit been running hot and even shuts down at 4k gaming if it tries to push to 144fps cause the chip shuts pc down when temps get too high for too long.
Get a better cooler bro.
What cpu do you have if it's r7800x3d is very easy cool if not buy a better cooler
So for dynamic option and gigabyte mobo i just need to put pbo enhancement to 80 level 2. Am I right?
Yes
@@littlebear4543 ty
You also need to use a negative offset, -15 or -20
@@ImWateringPSUs isn’t that what the level 2 is. -20?
No updated bios, issue gone@@littlebear4543
Where do I find "CPU Clock" in the Asus BIOS?
Google it 😂
Have you guide for Msi AM5 motherboard?
Yes I do, it’s in my CPU undervolting playlist
@@ImWateringPSUs Pretty hard to find. Could you link that video please?
I cant find cpu clock in b650 msi
48?
48 yes! Be sure you have the latest bios
Out of curiosity, granted I’ve not yet watched the video, I’m at 0:58 but how can something work the same between the 3 ryzen 7000 x3d CPUs? They are made significantly different. Like core foundations of the chips are different. The 7900x3d and the 7950x3d both have two separate CCDs while the 7800x3d only has one. There is a lot of fiddling with the 7900 and 7950 x3d chips (like disabling one of the CCDs)to get them to game at the highest level while the 7800x3d is good to go out of the box. I’m going to watch the video but so far it’s not making a lot of sense how you’d do the same with all 3 chips
Also I truly appreciate you saying if it works for you to hit the like button. Rather than telling people to hit like before watching even 10 seconds of the video
“Good to go out of the box”
Seriously? With 55-60°C at idle and great 360 aio cooler and no changes, no curve optimizer and no SoC change.
Even if you use the 7800x3d, you still have to use the undervolt. I use it and package temps drop by 25 degrees. From 65°C to 40°C and CPU temps (not the package) drop from 55 to 35° on each core.
Cinebench score has an increase, out of the box the CPU scores 14400 pts and with the curve optimizer and SoC change scores 16200 pts. 😊✌🏻
Very good point of criticism, however it is quickly explained: the overall tweaking can and will be different (disabling CCDs, different RAM tolerance) however as far as undervolting goes, they all share the same architecture and X3D chips have all the same kind of binning. So the voltage curve and the way it behaves is shared
@@jakubpokorny5436 you may get better numbers running an undervolt but you absolutely do not have to undervolt it. I’ve got a 240mm aio and never reach even 80c under heavy load.
Not everyone has to screw with power settings
@@jakubpokorny5436 so yeah the 7800x3d is good to go out of the box. I put the cpu in and it games perfectly. Sure maybe I could get 10% more by undervolting the CPU but there is other crap you have to do with the 7900x3d and the 7950x3d that you simply do not have to do with the 7800x3d, so yea my point remains, it’s good to go out of the box without screwing with power settings. But what do I know? I only upgraded from the ryzen 5 7600x and got an incredible bump in my gaming experience while having access to all 8 cores. Guess what? The 7900x3d has access to 6 cores with vcache for gaming. The 7950x3d has 8 with access to the vcache.
The 7800x3d beats them both in gaming and doesn’t have to cut out half of its damn cores to access the 3D cache