Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Char В1 Bis part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2017
- In the new episode of Inside the Chieftain's Hatch about the French Char B1 bis heavy tank, Nicholas Moran will talk about why it required a certain kind of castor oil, why the French government lied about it, and why this tank is like Frankenstein's monster. Enjoy!
It's time to hear that damn song 50 times!
Song is annoying. The program will be received without the bumper music.
da na-nana nananana nana
I really don't see the problem. I think it would be worse without a background theme. They could perhaps make it longer and make another one to alternate them.
@@MrMarinus18 it would be worse without?! What are you 10 years old? Nothing can keep your attention if it doesn't have music, especially a documentary?
@@lsq7833 Something being worse does not mean I'm suddenly unable to watch it. If it didn't have a background theme I could still watch it but I think it's better to have a background theme. Many people work better with music playing in the background. I do agree they should make the segment longer or perhaps make 2 more so that they have 3 to cycle between.
Grabs popcorn, this is gonna be a good one
can you land a cat , onto falling butter sandwich?
“le popcorn” in the current context
France better not only have solid shot. Or else Gopher be sad. I want aphe for french.
How did I end up on this bad games channel?....
😏
This tank always amuses me, it's so strangely proportioned that I just can't help but think of it as a land-based submarine.
you proudly wear your "croix de Lorraine" pin's .Nice gesture for the french audience.Thanks.
This vehicle appears to be the product of somebody in the French high command saying "Let's take the Renault FT and combine it with the Saint-Charmond creating in the process the perfect tank".
Frankly I only started understanding the majesty of the B1 after I realized that someone somewhere once thought that running a tank of this size with a crew of four was a great idea. Can't wait for part 2 to see just how in god's green earth the hull gun is supposed to work.
The driver shoots it.
You have the Driver/Main hull gunner. The Commander/Top gunner/Radio Operator. The loader. And the guy in the back smoking a long cigarette while twirling his moustache wearing a beret.
Kevin Smith Yeah that last one is just along for the ride, getting his adrenaline kicks.
The 4th guy is basically the onboard engineer. If the tank breaks, he can fix it. No other tank has a crewmember 100% dedicated to that job. Tells you what the french thought about their drivetrain...
Of those four only one was in the turret so he was simply overloaded with work, having to command the tank, load the gun, aim the gun and operate the radio. That is if you had one...
Was the German A7V tank a better idea with its minimum crew of 18?
"[the hatch] can only be opened from within the tank"
(proceeds to open it from the outside)
(Saw Gerrera voice) Lies! Deception!
I went inside first to unlock it.
Builds tank with hatch that can only be opened from the inside
Scraps it immediately
Hall monitoring will never be the same.
Great tank though! Love how iconic all of the French tanks look, from the Renault clones to stuff like the SOMUA and this one.
re: Yamsmos iconic of what conflict provocation and defeat
"Let's undermine our own troops' confidence in their machines with a propaganda campaign just to keep enemies from copying us!" "MON DIEU YOU ARE A GENIUS PIERRE!"
When you think that this thing was conceived in 1926, it's actually really impressive!
Aitnaw how so?
john martin look at how thick the armor is!
For 1 , without a full ammo load, a crewman or 2 if small can sleep
The steering system is similar to ones use on tanks today
THANK YOU for taking time to do these tours. Many of us look forward to these because you show us the conditions INSIDE these vehicles. Many of us have only seen the outside of these
at museums or in books. We may one with cut-aways to see in (rare) but little on the actual
conditions INSIDE these. Had no idea where the hull loader sat in this vehicle for example...
Anyone else been waiting for this episode for a long while?
me for some reason I love this tank I know its not great but something about it
Yeah, me. My first ever tank model was a Jagdpanther, followed by a Firefly and then a larger Diorama with an FT17 and the B1. With this episode, the three tanks that founded my interest in tanks in general, are finally "videotized" (though the JP was explored by the Challenger).
@TheChieftainWoT Thank you and your crew for all your hard work.
I've also been fascinated by French WW2 tanks, without fully understanding why. This is the one I wanted to see then most.
Great episode! I drove that tank in WWII online and it was very good machine as long as I could keep Germans in front of me and not to the side.
Exospray i
I'd say, by the design, it looks like it was developed with WW1 style warfare still in mind. With its ability to clear pretty wide gaps (trenches) and a gun positioned low to address fortifications (bunkers, pill boxes and other trench related defenses, which will naturally be pretty low to the ground and perhaps below the lowest deflection for a gun mounted high on a turret - except for at significant range).
Thank you Mr.Moran, and his team, the museum etc etc..
One of my favorite historical tanks! Been waiting for this one
excellent as always looking forward to part 2
I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Keep them coming.
Can't wait for the next part!
Capitaine Billote's ride never ends!
And so begins the German Army's Heavy Tank envy.
Great show! I love the information on the B1 Bis. Thank you.......
A very well designed and effective tank...for 1924.
Still good even in 1930`s or even 40`s. And if we remove silly one-men turret and hull gun and replace it with something like 75mm cannon we get...a KV. A lighter and more reliable KV.
Nice one I always look forward to your videos have been a tank fan since I was a kid keep them coming, please
I believe the word "Iconic" applies here.
THANK YOU!!
Always appreciate these videos mate :)
Really enjoy these videos, please keep them coming.
Thank you for the bloopers!
been waiting so long for this tank
Looks like a fine 1920s tank to me. Viva la France.
6cm of armour is alot for the time I think the Matilda had 8cm.
Nexfero Matilda had about 6-7
@@deeznoots6241 matilda have no firepower
druisteen it had the very good for its time 2 pounder gun that was the standard British anti-tank gun at the start of the war, it’s very easy to forget that at the start of the war 37mm guns were extremely common for anti-tank work, the German 88 for example was an Anti-Air gun that had been quickly adapted into anti-tank use specifically to deal with such vehicles as the Matilda and the Char B1 that easily resisted the entirety of the dedicated anti-Tank guns used at the time, meanwhile the 2 pounder easily destroyed all German tanks until the later variants of the PZIV and the PZV(Panther) and PZVI(Tiger/Tiger II) came out
It would be fine provided it was used in the 20s.
As always brilliant video.
A reference to the Rotatrailer never fails to bring a smile to my face.
Chieftain! Hi! I swear you could talk about paint drying and it would still be massively entertaining.
Isaac McDaniel Especially if he is too tall to fit in the jar of paint.
Will he fit into the Char B???
That's what we're all waiting for.
+David Copplestone ...so long as it doesn't involve getting in and out of the 1-man turret and risk his family jewels (& other limbs) doing so.
He LITERALLY made a video on paint drying
Yes yes yes. Just what I needed. I wanted to hear your beautiful voice. Xoxoxoxoxoxo
When I got the notification for this, I screamed with joy louder than I should have.....
Yes! :D cant wait to see the inside!
Always love this show
This is an interesting tank that I have never heard of my self. It really does seem to be in interim tank with some older ideas and some rather later innovations mixed in.
Why doesnt wot have an option for tanks with a fixed gun and turreted gun like the b1 bis or the m3 lee to be able to switch between guns. The hull mounted gun for long range and the turreted gun for snap shooting and preventing being caught in the circle of death. To balance it you could have to reload each time you switch guns
andrew decker same for warthunder
@@sparetime2475 it's possible in war Thunder. Set in controls that trigger only fires main selected gun and then select keys to select main/secondary gun. I did that for the smk
I did that after but thx anyway
@@sparetime2475 it took me a long time since I started the game so I considered maybe some don't know this. it never really gets mentioned by the game itself.
The muzzle speed of the hull mounted 75mm gun is 200 meters a second.making it worse than useless at long range.Plus since you cant turn it left of right makes it even more useless at long range.
Finally the Char B1, one of my favourite 'ugly duckling' tanks.
Thanks Nicolas.
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Cool tank, cool presentation.
Well ... we need MORE outtakes!
3:10 - bless you
Awesome a new inside the Chieftains hatch!
YES! Believe it or not I have been looking for more info on this particular tank and wondering why you never did an episode. The first that I had heard of this tank was when I was watching a Lego WWII channel that featured the Char B1 Bis...I know...color me embarrassed but the Lego animation was really cool. Ask and ye shall receive I suppose. THANK YOU!!
This is a very interesting tank. I like weird, odd and quirky ones ;)
yea!!! what an interesting tank to explore!!
I remember fighting these in my mark V landshup
I always found that passage way hilarious it it's a submarine on tracks!
Absolutely love the B1
I had a gig in saumure last summer during a tour with my band, and I was like " ho lets go to that museum"! and the others were like "ok... he seems prety excitetd about a tank museum", and then it got really weird when they saw the stupid amount quantity of random information I know and seeing that I knew every single tank lol. And then they catch me huging the king tiger.... he he! Anyway this museum is amazing, so many hidden gemes there, and its so quiet, I went 2 times, and it was almost empty, so I allowed myself to climb on quite a few! Great time!
King tiger hug is best hug!
matydrum
Last time i went there was with a mate in about 2005. The whole place was dead as it was a Wednesday and in winter so i climbed inside as many tanks as I could manage to open. The PzIII, the WW1 rhomboidal was wide open - but i thought it was that way deliberately and plopped on the MGer's helmet with the anti-splinter [spalling?] chain mail hanging over your face. Er, I think the T-34 or was it KV? I really can't remember but nobody seemed to care, after all, they're bloody big steel monsters, wth was one little man gonna do to such a thing?
Just climbing onto that PzIII was such a buzz. I felt like I was actually at Kursk, almost getting me arse shot off by a PakFront as the Tigers rolled on by.
Pretty sure the King Tiger was a Porsche turret but after all the effort getting onto the engine deck i was too knackered to try getting inside it.
I'm guessing you don't have that kinda freedom anymore? Isn't the PzIV there the one the Brits finally discovered why German tank stahl was so tough? Face hardened made a huge difference, especially in gun tests, but it was also quite brittle so not so useful for a Tiger I with all its right angles and box design but excellent when sloped. Either way, I couldn't get inside that bugger. The commander's hatch seemed locked in place and the escape hatches on the turret too. Just standing on those monsters was an amazing feeling.
Couldn't be arsed with the French stuff.
Please do a series with graphics & animations on tank suspensions and all the different types. Perhaps framed as the evolution of tank suspension showing their divergences and cgi of how they (bogeys, springs, torsion bars [lateral & longitudinal] & hydropneumatic) work.
FINALLY!!!! Do the Ram II next!
I have read 2 books from steven j.zagola about french tanks of world war 2 (part 1 +part2) and i thought i knew all about the char b never heard of read about caster oil or a passage way to the engine . well i learnt something new thank you !!!
those books are only 48 pages each ...but they say the naerder steering system was unreliable the book never mentions why . they only needed one sentence to explain it.
I know with the later B1Bis an the B1ter prototype they got rid of the Naeder system and gave the howitzer 10 degrees of traverse instead as it was allot cheaper and easier to mass produce part of me has always wondered what would have happened if Renault had just ditched the howitzer put a bigger turret on it and replaced the crappy oversized and underpowered engine they built with one of the 3 most likely off the shelf alternative engine i.e. Engines like with Gnome Rhone Mistral Major or the Hispano Suiza 12X which in which the French had since 1929-1930 as it was almost 2 times as powerful more reliable and smaller than the Renault engine as well as being mass produced the were both capable of doing 500 hp with no supercharger a move that was done to the Rolls Royce Merlin to create the Meteor hell they could have done what the British did with early tanks and the Liberty Engine which would have got you at least 350 hp and nd if tuned properly 410 for some reason the French never went down the route of putting a modified Aircraft engine into a Tank and thus had major problems developing tank engines and they were always a bit shit despite having a great Aircraft Engine industry. With removing the howitzer and just keeping a simple steering system you could easily offset the weight of a larger turret with say the French 75mm a gun with comparable performance to 75mm on the M3 Grant/Lee the and with a Liberty running at say 350hp you could have increased power to weight to 12.5hp per tonne far superior to the 9.7 it had in reality and with the Mistral Major or the Hispano Suiza a Power to weight ratio of over 17.8hp per tonne would have been possible although I doubt much would have about the top speed due to the suspension probably maxing out at about 35kph it would have been allot more responsive they could have made a very effective interim tank until some of the great potential projects like the G1R are ready that would have outclassed not only the German tanks but also the KV1 well If anyone ever gives I time Machine I'm totally gonna go back to the early 1930s and bitchslap Louis Renault until he makes me one. And before everyone calls me a mad fool allot of these modifications are actually less extreme than those done to the same chassis to create the ARL44 (hell the ARL-44 used pre war technology)
every one of the proposals made was considered and design started by the Vichy Government as part of their clandestine plans however they cancelled the project after liberation as the proposed tank was not quite as good as the Sherman which they were getting for free they did, however, use it as the basis for the ARL44
Sweet finally up
I would not be suprised to see a nation state return to the elongated tank design in the future with perhaps a better suspension. There are some good large caliber options to a long frame also longer vs wider fits railcars. It also would be interesting to use a longer tank if they were going to shoot off missile packs instead of actual shell based ammunition.
Enjoy your videos. One thing you didn't do that you did for the SOMUA was illustrate the actual suspension. I've looked at many references and sites but haven't found any good pics or drawings.
Thank you very much.
Any chance you could get inside an ARL-44?
I noticed on the screws around the idler access port.... they were spot welded, the era before loctite :)
TheBrewjo I think that was more a modern way to dissuade potential acts of theft and vandalism
Yay! It's my favorite tank!
Hello, for the next episode, can u do an easy8 Sherman?
HVSS suspensions, 76 mm gun, ...
It’s my favorite tank😃
Go check, there is an M4A1E8 in running condition at Bastogne barracks in Bastogne, Belgium..
Thanks!
Martin 610050 ugh just a crappy tank
amazing vid jeanne d'arc a B1 bis took 90 flat shoot from 88mm FLAK before to collapse. only FLAK in flat shoot in german weapon could perforated his armored at this time.
TOTO CACA what??...the PaK 38 was able to defeat the char but they weren't available in quantity...
Pak 38 in service 1941 french campaign 1939 to may 1940. The Pak 38 was first used by the German forces in April 1941. When the Germans faced Soviet tanks in 1941 during Operation Barbarossa. during french campaign they used Pak 36.
Love this tank!
For reasons that escape me TH-cam has me running in a loop on this tank.
Call me crazy but I think the B1 is actually a rather beautiful tank... well for how beautiful a tank can be at least :D
DesRoin Panther, JagdPanther , Tiger and King Tiger are all much more beautiful and sexy
Tiger is basically just your prototypical "box with turret onnit" though. Big roadwheels on the sides too - as one book on the Cromwell put it, "not unlike a child's sketch of a generic tank". The sloped jobs at least have a certain sleekness to them.
DesRoin No accounting for taste I guess. I find the turret to look ridiculous.
Prewar turret designs were often pretty ridiculous from a functional standpoint, but visually interesting. The APX series is actually decent enough - just *small*.
@DesRoin - I am with you; I also like the looks of the B1
when are you going to do part 2?
BTW guys since you're in Saumur , could you do the Tiger II ?
nice
Which is next H35, Somua S35, or the ACG 1/ AMC 35?
Great video as always, but your audio balancing needs work. Nick’s dialogue is quiet, and the intro and transitions are deafening.
Irskin - They seem to have fixed it, sounds good now.
is there any particular benifit or deficit in having your track roll all the way around the tank vs the half body that everyone went too?
besides the obvious need to have far more links that is
Tracks running front and back = Trench and obstacle crossing. Most tracks were as long as possible t help provide surface and reduce ground pressure. The Churchill was able to climb places considered "tank proof" (rugged, steep sides).
Any chance the chieftain can do a video on the Russian PT76 light tank ?
Any idea on how good the howitzer was for use as self propelled artillery?
No proper elavation
Take the hull gun out of 3/4ths of them. Take the turret off of the remaining 1/4th. Give that 1/4th of turrets back to some other vehicle--perhaps the Italianized FTs--and the remaining hull guns to whoever else needs them.
With some added seating, what you are left with is a division of IFVs with enough mobile direct fire support guns for every squad, enough turrets left over to arm a scout squadron and a bunch of leftover hull guns to do hull gun things with.
Hey, since you are there, why not an “inside” episode on AMC35? I’d love to see that machine inside out! 😇
Was it castor oil or was it glycerin that was used in the hydraulic system I know there were two versions and if you put the drugstore version in the tank the steering would screw up.
8:45 the only tank & trailer combination to work as advertised was the Churchill Crocodile.
Was that a penetration hole in the frontal hull armour - to the bottom right of the 75mm - that I spied briefly?
When patrt 2 is comming out?
how about doing a sherman easy 8 inside the hatch
Countries like to design their tanks in a similar way.
The French like theirs slow, heavily armored and rather dated looking, often seemingly unreliable when in fact they do work just fine, and deserve a better reputation than they get.
The British like theirs a bit on the smaller side, and rather dated, often unreliable, underarmored and undergunned, but overall decent.
The Germans like big, fast tanks, with big guns, and high quality.
The Americans like big tanks as well, with good armor, reliability and crew comfort, and tend to be pretty well-rounded, even if not exemplary in terms of speed and armament, but that's not to say they're insufficient.
The Russians like simple, robust designs they can build a lot of, that can pack a big punch, with crew comfort and outward appearance being secondary concerns.
The Swedish like high quality, well-designed vehicles, even if they lack the economic resources to develop ones that are fully on par with the world's best tanks of the day.
The russian tank are more like cheap unreliable and shitty tank that can be easily replaced after 1 or 2 day of just driving,
And the french changed tactic after ww2 to fast tank packing a punch and with advanced tech
British alway used a mix of the two and the german changed tactic for similar tank to the french after ww2 america switched to heavy all rounder tank after ww2
Yeah I'm sorry russian tanks mostly didn't make it to battle Field they where so unreliable.
@@puebespuebes8589 yes french very much learnt lessons from ww2 and became a very agile reactive force.
watching this whilst playing war thunder
YES! YES! YES!
Why is the barrel of the 75ml so thick? Looks like 2" per side...
Nice to hear something good about French tanks, especially after (unfortunately) taking most of my knowledge from armchair historians like, ekhm ekhm, author of the Failed Tanks series
That engine must have been pretty compact to fit a passageway alongside it!
lets wait and see inside, it might be the passageway that's tiny!
Will you be doing a inside the hatch episode on the conqueror
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Looks like it took a shot through the lower front plate where the fix gun is.
please can you do some episode on japanese tanks? anything is fine.
Do the 50b after the char! French heavy tanks from beginning to end
The whole way of thinking about placing the main gun so low on the tank sounds as something very primitive. I need to add that the use of tanks was quite new at that time and many generals were still dismissing the use or seeing the purpose of tanks....on the battle field(s)
Estienne was the guy who basically created the French tank arm though, and (highly) approved of the Reno FT which set the gold standard for tank layout.
Given that this was originally an early Twenties assault gun project though... well. Let's just say that period automotive engineering placed very serious limits on what you could reasonably expect AFVs to be capable of.
Could you do a tour of the t95 super heavy tank
IIRC its a gutted shell but planned to be restored.
The Maus was gutted but not the T95, but it did go into a ditch and doing repairable damage to it.
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so was the maus. another episode of outside the chieftans hatch?
Ethan Thomson グミ wait didn't he did it already?
*another* episode
Hell, it's about Time...
4:48 - I'm pretty sure that number is a 82, not 81. XD Great video as always though
The 81 is etched into the hull below the builders plate.
@@TheChieftainsHatch don't assume his gender
Will we ever see the Hotchkiss h35?
Good ole Mallard Team.
Oh yes!!
I wish he mention the strange french tracks even they were armored
imagine a char B1 Campaign in BF1. damn!
Ooooh
3:55 best voicecrack
B1 Bis was a beast...for 1930's tank fighting. It lost that beast mode once 1940 hit and got left behind. If the French had built a bunch in the 30's and the Nazis only came into France with Panzer 1 and 2's, it would have dominated them.
Same for Germans,if they introduced their Panzer 3s and 4s with long barrel 50-75mms in 1930s and mass produced that tanks German victory would be in 2-3 weeks.
Conceptually, the Char B1 Bis was very similar to the Assault Guns used so successfully by the Germans much much later. So in contrary to what many people saying, the Char B1 Bis was not obsolete but actually well ahead of its time at the beginning of WW2.